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Show Me The Goodies Joined: 18 Oct 2014 Posts: 301

I got this idea off my mentor Just cold Cool

It has never failed yet ....i string a lad along for as long as i can , cant do WU or MG .....cave in eventually then the SPTS mod or various MG / WU forms for them to fill .

Usually waste about 2 months of a lads time then they give me a piggy Laughing

Then the Dollar Chop arrives .

So simple and has worked every time up to now (thanks JC ) A simple email to the lad saying his assistant has been in contact and you understand it must be now only paid through WU .....you are pissed off but understand he is now out on urgent buissness and you are now dealing with his assistant ( He is a very lad after all being a barrister ! )

ME

Dear B@rrister Michael

Yes i have the money today withdrawn from Weston Union .

Why is your assistant, Mr. XXX, telling me that I need to use Money gram and only and send him the MTCN number?

He said you are leaving town and he is taking over for you.

Are you ok?

This is the payment information that he sent:

Receivers name:=== XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Destination:====== XXXXXXXXXXXX
Text question:== XXXXXXXXXX
Text answer:== XXXXXXXXXXXX
MTCN#: ...........................
SENDERS NAME: ...................

If this is correct please let me know so I can make the payment.

Sincerely,

D@nielle

lad

Dear D@nielle L@wlor,

how are you today,i hope all is well,kindly do note that i got your mail and the content in it as well,please i will advice you not to make any payment to him,kindly do note that e his no more working with us in the Bank any more as has been sacked from the Bank a very long time ago,please do note that he is trying to get your payment and also to get the Funds out to him self and other that has been sacked too from the Bank..kindly do note that i am still in my office and i did not tell or info any one to help me or support me in these transaction ok.

Beware of him,kindly do not make any payment by western union or International Money gramm transfer to him or any one apart from the Account information i sent to you ,kindly do note the account information again below ok.that is why i told you to send to me your mobile number so i could reach you on phone very fast as easy..my Direct Mobile line is xxxxxxxxxx you can text me on call me on pone.

BEWARE MY GOOD FRIEND.

ACCOUNT INFORMATION BELOW AGAIN.

BANK NAME= ACCESS BANK GHANA

NAME= xxxxxx

ACCOUNT NUMBER=xxxxxxx

KINDLY DO NOTE MAKE ANY PAYMENT TO HIM OK THEY ARE SCAM,TRYING TO GET YOUR FUNDS TO THEM SELF.

MY LOVE TO YOU AND THE FAMILY

BARRISTER MICHE@L AK@S

MORE EMAILS THROUGHOUT THE DAY OFF MY PET LAD

DEAR D@NIELLE L@WLOR,

KINDLY DO NOTE THAT I WRITE AGAIN TO INFO THAT YOU ARE NOT TO MAKE ANY PAYMENT TO ANY ONE BY WESTERN UNION OR MONEY GRAMM OK.REMEMBER YOU TOLD ME THAT THE ONLY WAY IS FOR YOU TO SEND THE PAYMENT BY ACCOUNT IN WHICH I SENT TO YOU BY SECRETARY ACCOUNT INFORMATION,THAT IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET THE PAYMENT AND MAKE THE DOCUMENT NEEDED FOR THE RELEASE OF YOUR FUNDS OK.

KINDLY DO NOTE THESE.I HOPE YOU GOT THE ACCOUNT INFORMATION I SENT TO YOU OK.

REGARDS

BARRISTER MICHE@:L AK@S

ME

Hello Michael

How are you today ?

I honestly do not know who to believe anymore >

I keep getting emails off XXXX ?????.....saying you are a scammer and not a barrister and my money is not safe and i need to send it by WESTON UNION OR MONEY GRAM to him only and no one else .

He is very insistant about this .

He says he does not mind going through the S P T S website to access the MTCN which you could not do .

He has sent me a picture of himself as security with my name on it and it looks genuine he is definately a barrister by the way he is dressed .

I dont understand this anymore and i have a large sum of money in my house now not knowing what to do with it and who to send it too .

Shall i forward you the picture so you can see who he is and confirm he used to work for the bank and was sacked ?

This is a lot of money for me Michael and i must admit to being VERY concerned that this is genuine .

Every thing was fine untill XXXXX emailed me now i'm really confused and upset i live on my own and i am in a wheel chair and have no one to talk to about this .

I can't see how ringing you will assure me this is genuine anymore as how do i know who i am talking to and how did XXXX get my email address if he was sacked a very long time ago ?

Please help me .

Best wishes

D@nny

Show Me The Goodies Joined: 18 Oct 2014 Posts: 301

I want a trophy picture Cool

I have hopefully put the idea in the lads head ?

......any suggestions appreciated to move this one forward i have become rather fond of this POS .......

Max pain would be good he is obviously hooked and believes this is for real i want to keep him hooked as long as possible other characters etc Twisted Evil

Again .....thanks JC , so simple but deadly !

Show Me The Goodies Joined: 18 Oct 2014 Posts: 301

I am expecting my trophy picture in the next few days .

I know its no biggie for some of you guys but it will put a smile on my face if i get one .

If i get i will post up the desparate emails if not its another epic fail Laughing

Baiting Guru Joined: 19 Sep 2013 Posts: 2205

These can be great fun! Very Happy

I chopped a lad a while back here:

https://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=260790&highlight=

I have a special barrister email account that I use just for chops and taunts. After your character makes the payment, you can send a message from your fake lad to the real lad.... "Tanks for the money broda, dis client pay well well", etc.

Then your character can write him pissed off because the barrister is now asking for more money... this confusion can go on and on, and if you get the right lad they can get seriously wound up!

I still occasionally taunt the lad in the thread above. The fake barrister is now helping my character and his church wash black money, and has paid out over $700,000. Fake lad writes him thank you letters for "giving" him such a good mugu. In fact, real lad wrote to me just this morning with a nice email:

Quote:

Dan i dont know you are a fool, i have told you from the very first
time that i do not know who is Barrister kofi and now you have spent a
lot on him you will pay or people will kill you because you are very
wicked...God will punish you dan for letting me go to jail and you never wantedto help me out in any way. I am in jail just because of your
foolishness and wickedness Dan.

Wicked Man!

Have fun winding up your lad! Very Happy

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:04 am

what exactly is a "dollar chop"?

i cant really find a good explaination

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:47 am

A dollar chop is when a third party intercepts your payment to a lad.
It does happen in real life, when Lad B sees Lad A's email, possibly he forgot to log out of his email at the cyber cafe, or the account has been hacked.
When it happens here it is usually pinned down to either Mr Gomer, the well known Lad Hacker/MTCN stealer, or 'him' who we don't name.

As a result Lad A gets very upset, whether it's a real chop or a baiter fake.

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:48 am

Where an evil banker, lawyer or other fake lad intervenes and steals the money. Baiters frequently run into fake WU or MG clerks who divert the funds, to the lads frustration. Rants frequently follow the dollar chop!

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:48 am

^^^

Dollarchopping is a fun free-time activitity for all the baiters round the globe. Very Happy

In short it is a moment where the victim cluelessly sends the money to the scammer but the victim was 'hacked' and different (madeup) scammer replaced the lads payment information with his. Then this madeup scammer can brag to the original scammer how he stole his money - how he just got his dollar chopped.

So it can go like this.
"I sent you the money to the bank account you sent me."
"But I told you to go to western union, no bank account ooooo"
"No, your assistant (this would be the madeup hacker you're referencing to a lad) told me he's writing on your behalf since you are sick and gave me the bank account to send the money. When do I get my funds, now?"

This, of course, leaves the lad happy and satisfied that it all went smooth, as you can probably imagine.

Edit: Ninja

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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:14 am

When you get different Lads using the same characters (such as Godwin Emefiele), tell each of them that you sent the money to the other Lad's agent.

You could also use the name given in any scam email. Sunday Onyibor turns up in a lot of Benin scams.

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:27 pm

Thanks for the clarification guys, your information has been understood and we'll noted.ok

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:16 pm

Thing is with the dollar chop it is rarely not believed. Only once have I had a reply to my chopper email account and that was a bit of bravado on one more adventurous lad's part. Other than that I have never had it questioned. Well, he believed it just wanted to say he wasn't bothered!! But he believed I had sent the money.

Did it today on my ATM lad.... Just got an email asking for a phone number for the ATM card courier. Telling me the payment was made.

If you ever want the services of my chopping a/c just let me know. I have to admit though, Pidgon English Services by Nailgunner and I added some new bits in myself just in case anyone knew each other!!

So good because you know they trailed down to WU. You know the money wasn't there...but they don't blame you!!

So Brucie, nice going so far. Kindly do note that he seems invested in you. You'll go far!

Show Me The Goodies Joined: 18 Oct 2014 Posts: 301

Thanks all...

I opened my latest email off the POS and was looking forward to seeing my trophy picture with my fake name on it , the lazy git pinched a picture off google images which was the size of a postage stamp , no security code as i demanded and just keeps pushing for the money and re sending the bank details which was reported weeks ago Cool

Looks like he is well hooked , time for the fake lad dollar chopper to contact him shortly Laughing

Show Me The Goodies Joined: 18 Oct 2014 Posts: 301

My lad has made 2 attempts of a security picture .

The first was pathetic a robbed stock photo he typed in the code on a file the guy was holding.......to small and not acceptable !

The second looks good to me but i shrunk it down and said the code was not readable and emailed it back for a bigger picture but he,s gone off on one and fell out with me ....( again ) Laughing

Shrunk version ....

Proper size ..........

Has anyone got any ideas on if this picture could be of him , the paper he is holding kooks like its been typed over and the paper does not look real ????

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:07 am

I would say it probably is your lad, and he has a cookie cutter picture this one,that he uses to send to all his baiters, and just types in the requested text to save taking a new pic each time

Show Me The Goodies Joined: 18 Oct 2014 Posts: 301

Thanks ....

It just seems strange he was VERY reluctant to send a picture , he only caved in when i threatened to cancel again .

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:00 pm

The text clearly was added later.

When I get one like this, I usually accept it initially, and then just when I am ready to send the money I send a concerned email to the lad because my 9 year-old grandson showed me that the text is fake. He even made a picture to prove it. (See below). He even attached it to this email so grandad (who could not figure out how) could show the scammer.

Then I demand that he send a REAL picture--and I will be sure to have my grandson check it out, so no funny stuff.

Your business partner must prove he is real by showing himself holding a real sign and the sign must be hand written, or the money will not be sent.

Your lad wil be upset because:
1 - No payday--again

2 - You were told to not tell anyone about this (You can tell him you do not know how to do things without the help of whomever you have helping you, so no help-no pay). Your confusion will frustrate him.

3 - You are doubting his honesty--and every lad hates that. This is an odd truth of scammers. They are genuinely offended when accused of being liars and thieves in spite of that being their vocation. They universally imagine themselves virtuous, kind, generous and honest. it is one of those mental disconnects similar to those sufferd by Mafiosa who go to Mass every day.

4 - Making a sign, taking a picture and then uploading it takes time and a very small amount of work. Lads hate work. We love to make them work. This is a good thing.

5 - There is a chance that this is not your lad, but merely something his group uses in these situtions--a sort of local lad stock photo. If so he will be very upset because he knows he can't send you genuine picture

Finally, all of this is HIS FAULT. You do not know why he was so lazy that he did not prepare a genuine picture, but now it is costing time and money! He should be ashamed for doing this in a sloppy way. Why in your day people took pride in their work... and so on.

He might never send you a genuine pic, but push his buttons and he will likely send you some great rants.--and those are music.

Show Me The Goodies Joined: 18 Oct 2014 Posts: 301

^^^^^

Great advice ......thanks Thumbs up

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 13 Jan 2014 Posts: 698

I've had several different reactions to a dolla-chop. They have ranged from a (seemingly) cool reaction from the lad, who might even respond by thanking me for a 'prompt' payment and carrying on with the scam as if nothing untoward had happened, to a total hysterical breakdown on his part, resulting in the most hilarious emails:

https://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=263546.

Most times, the chopped lad simply ignores the taunts from the fake dolla-chopping lad, but will occasionally respond in Pidgin English, thereby supplying a good, authentic reference source for future use.

I believe dolla-chopping is one of our most potent tools and use it a lot. Not only does it create immediate severe lad pain, and place the baiter firmly in charge, but must cause a degree of unrest in Ladland, which I think could be further exploited by us and I'm working on this. SPTS is a useful auxiliary tool in my scheme, because it reveals the true IP of all lads we entice into its clutches. I look for local groupings of lads, research their environment and aim to play one against the other - a kind of 'Divide-and-Rule'. There's a hint of this in the bait behind the above link.

Show Me The Goodies Joined: 18 Oct 2014 Posts: 301

the lad is demanding the choppers number and details .....so i gave him another lads number Laughing

wish i could here there conversation pmsl

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