Trying to bait a phone lad

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Elite Baiter Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 1455

This is one of my first attempts at baiting, currently in progress. It�s a very boring bait, but I thought it�s worth showing how easy it is to get into baiting via the phone lads, they can�t ask you for any documents or anything like that as there�s no need to, and you don�t really even need to have anything to send to them at all.

The purpose behind it was to report accounts as soon as possible, but I took a few, including this one, further to see if there was any fun to be had. My aim is to try and waste some of their time, and to keep building them up, having them smelling money, and then letting them down as many times as possible.

The first few e-mails were all mass BCCs to all the known phone lads. Every now and again I sent the same short query to everyone that had replied, and deleted all the messages from my Inbox.

Queries were boring things designed to try and waste time, like if they had a website, whether they had specific models, how much the cheapest phone with (x feature) was, if they delivered to the UK, if they could give me their price list in UK � sterling, and about discounts for bulk orders. I didn�t keep all these e-mails.

Not very many people made it to the end if the BCC to all replies, and some more got left behind because they couldn�t understand what I was asking and I couldn�t be bothered explaining, or because they didn�t answer the question properly or at all. Everyone who gave a first reply was reported, so a lot of messages also started bouncing

I carried on with the five I thought were most helpful, on the host slowest to kill accounts, and the first message where the replies got individual attention was the tax scam one. I moved very quickly with this bait at the beginning as I wanted to see how it would pan out, and sometimes pushed the scammer for quicker responses, so they didn't receive all the old favourites like DLL files. It's going a bit more leisurely now; I won't be able to do anything with it for a week because of my work, but once I get back.... there's a lot of fun to be had, I still haven't even had to send the fake MoneyGram Smile

And with MA going to be on holiday in Africa round about the time there is trouble making the payment for the order that is going to be truly massive and 110% urgent...

The cast:
MA, Managing Director of a chain of phone shops in the UK
BG, The finance guy
BH, A highly sophisticated automated computerised account management program that sends computer generated e-mails
JS, Admin assistant in the data department
HS, Admin assistant in the finance department

FM, Manager of a phone wholesaler in Nigeria
AA, the scammer's accountant. Prefers FM to reply to his e-mails it seems.

This has been running for a short while already, so I'll add the messages a bit at a time.

MA to FM
Phones � Looking for new supplier

Hiya

I am looking for new supplier of phones for my shops, as my old main supplier of many years went bankrupt owing me money.

Do you supply PDAs and smartphones? If so, please could you let me know stocklist, prices, and discounts for purchases in quantities of say 10 & 25

Many thanks

MA

Managing Director

FM to MA
Re: Phones � Looking for new supplier

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TELEPHONE:-
Email : -
web: Underconstruction

DEAR SIR/MA''

We are mobile phones wholesalers,we have all brands and models of gsm,tdma and cdma phones for sale at very cheap prices.We also have all models of Nextel phones for sale also at very cheap prices.We sell our phones at very cheap and reasonable prices.We do ship all over the world.Do kindly contact us if you are interested in buying some phones from us,thank's and God bless.
HERE IS THE PRICE LIST.
Brand Model Unit Prices

[The usual really long list of phones with really cheap prices and crap spelling]

Do kindly reply back now,thank's and God bless.

FM (Mrs.)
Manager.

The boring standard Q's and A's were here, about 10 or 12 messages removed. The next message (to which 5 people replied) was the first where the I started giving a personalised response to what they said

From MA to FM

Hello

I have a favour to ask, I hope you will not think this is insulting of you, but the situation here is very bad, and the governments taxes are too high.

I have a slightly dishonest motive for wanting to buy from abroad, I would like the transaction to be a little bit discrete with respect to tax, and for this I am wanting to buy from someone who can offer a little extra co-operation.

My friend, if I were to buy from you, would you be able to do me a favour?

As you know I am running a shop, and with the phone market being very competitive it is difficult to make money and pay the taxes that the government demand, I need to reduce my tax. They very reason I am looking for a new supplier is that my old one went bankrupt, that is how difficult it is to make money from phones here.

Now you are never going to be visited by the tax authorities here, so they cannot check our records against each other and you are completely safe.

If we do business, can you supply me with two invoices for each transaction? One is an honest invoice, you invoice me for the true cost of the phones and the true cost of the shipping. The second is a false invoice, you send me an invoice that is more expensive, perhaps 50% or 75% more expensive.

I pay you the lower invoice, but keep the higher one for my tax records. This reduces my tax bill because I am showing my profit is lower.

I know you are a very busy person with a business to run, so I make an offer to you to make this worthwhile. For ever $100 the fake invoice is higher than the real invoice, that reduces my taxable profit by $100. VAT and income tax are about $40, so I pay $40 less tax.

Please, I am asking all the people that have replies to me enquiries to think about this offer carefully. Please, give me your co-operation, and also the percentage share of the saving that you would require to consider this, and get in touch with me. Then I can give you the business. For you there is no risk, only gain. For co-operation I promise to make an initial order for minimum $1000 to show my sincere intention.

Perhaps I can also send you two payment advice slips, one showing that I paid less for the phones. Then you can pay less income tax too.

Please my friend, consider this offer and let me know if we can come to a little arrangement. If we can agree some co-operation I will return to you often with many orders for my shop.

With best wishes my friend

Please get back to me Sir, I need your help to keep my business profitable and stop the tax people taking too much money from me.

From FM to MA

Thanks for contacting us Mr M,

Well we can see that you are trying to make Good Prifit for yourself and this is the type of Businessman man we like.

So we will be willing to Issue out to you two Invoice but you will have to pay for the second invoice cos you know it's a company invoice but since you said you are buying above $1000, we will do it for free for you.

So let have your order and the price as we have told you is just $190 and Shipping is just $30, so the total Will be $220.

So just let us know the number of the phones you want, and you calculate the total amount by Multiplying it by $190 then adding $30.

After you have calculate the total amount go and make the payment to the following details :

And here is the payment information of our accountant :

Name : AA

City: Lagos

Country: Nigeria

Zip code :

Text Question : How are you

Answer: Ok

So go and make the payment vis western union Money Transfer now and get back to us with the full Payment information, so that once we verify your payment, the phone will be shipped out and you will get it within 48hrs of payment confirmation.

Thanks And God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

From MA to FM

I cannot thank you enough my friend. I was nervous about people accepting the offer, I thought it would be dificult; I sent it to many people. I am most grateful to you for coming back to me so quickly, even at this late hour for you!

I am doing a stock take at the weekend, and will have my order ready when I am finished, this has been a good week so I think it will be about 30 or 40 phones in total - I will get an official order completed and to you on Sunday, or Saturday if the shop is quiet. I will email you the official order, and if you can send me the invoices I will get the payment made on Monday as soon as the bank opens.

Can you tell me how your Western Union Bank works? I will ask my book-keeper, but I have never seen this before, I usually get my book-keeper to pay by BACS or IBANC, or cheque from my account at HSBC. I realise cheque may be too slow for foreign transactions, and BACS / IBANC may not be available to you, so if these are not good please tell me how my book-keeper should get my bank to make this transfer to yours in case he does not know.

Also, would you like a second order showing lower costs, so you can 'reduce' your profit and save tax too? Nothing is too much trouble when I am so grateful.

Thanks once more FM, I am forever in your debt. I know this will work for both of us for a long time.

FM to MA

Thanks for the reply, well we will be willing to sell our phones out to you.

So for 30 Phones the Total Amount Will be $5700 and plus shipping it will be $5730, while for 40, it will be just $7600 and plus shipping it will $7630.

But since we see that you are willing to buy in bulk we will also do you a favour by not collecting the shipping Fee from you, so since you are buying in bulk you just will be paying the total price without the shipping, that is for 30 phones you will pay $5700 and 40 phones you will pay $7600.

And get back to us with your Full address so that we can check the western union Location close to you and you go there to make the payment immediately.

So get back to us now with your address.

Thanks and God bless.

FM (Mrs)

MA to FM

Attached is the quotation request, please give me good price and business I will make yours.

Please also return second copy showing higher cost, as agreed.

Western Union is not a problem, my book-keeper knows about it and will deal with it.

Best wishes to you!

(attached form listing PDA and Smartphone models filled in by hand with number of each type)

FM to MA

The Invoice has been produce but we need your full address to be on the invoice.

So give us your address now, so that the invoice will be send immediately and you should go and send the money now.

Thanks

FM (Mrs)

It was on the form, but hey, MA is polite.

(The three places named are three very remote places at different locations right across Scotland. If you ever feel like going to O itself, please pop into my phone shop, the kettle has always just boiled. It�s four hours from the nearest city to the ferry port, and the ferry takes 2 � hours and runs three times a week to Colonsay (pop just over 100 I think). In these parts of the world you can get a lift in the post van, which meets the ferry, and that will take you to the south of Colonsay. The tidal causeway from there takes you across to a very small island with a lovely ruined priory on it, and you�ll not miss my shop, it�s in the industrial units at the business park.

O doesn�t have any claims to fame, but in the days before satellite TV, licensing inspectors outraged at there being no licensed TVs on the island at all once made the onerous trip to Colonsay to teach the islanders a lesson. It seems nobody told them you couldn�t get a signal, and because of the infrequent ferry service they had to stay on the island another two days after finding this out.

)

FROM FM to MA
Fwd: Here is the real Invoice

Hello Sir, Here is the Original Invoice with the total amount on it, so go and make the payment and get back us with full information and immediately we confirm your payment the phones will be shipped out and we get back to you with the tracking number immediately the phones is shipped out.

Thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

(�real� invoice attached)

From FM to MA
Fwd: Here is the second Invoice

Here is the second invoive you asked for.

(�fake� invoice attached])
From MA to BG and FM
Fwd: Here is the second Invoice

Bob - invoice agreed for payment Wink

International order - please arrange customs documentation
[�fake� invoice attached]

From MA to BG and GM
Fwd: Here is the real Invoice

Bob - invoice agreed for payment

Note: International order - please arrange customs formalities

[�real� invoice attached]

From FM to MA

Thanks for the mail.

Well after you have send the Money Via Western Union Money Transfer. Kindly Send to us the Full payment information.

Scan and send to us the Western Union Receipt for comfirmation.

And your phones will be shipped out immediately.

Thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

From BG to FM (Oh no! It looks like they�re going to pay the fake one by mistake!)

Dear supplier,

Your invoice (our ref 06P0027)has been passed to me for payment of $13,270.00. International payments are made in UK � Sterling, and for these purposes we have calculated the exchange rate as 1 USD = 0.565086 GBP and the payment due as �7,752.97. Please confirm your agreement.

I note that we do not currently have a supplier account registered for you. Please complete and return the attached registration form. For legal purposes we do require the original signature, but to expediate the first payment please send a scanned copy before posting. We will register and act on that.

As AC are based in a remote part of the UK, delivery delays often occur. We are keen to minimise these by ensuring smooth Customs clearance on international orders. Please confirm the number of boxes that will be included in this consignment, and we will arrange to send you the Customs forms that will be required in advance.

Thank you for trading with ACCF. I look forward to hearing from you shortly.

If you do contact us, please quote Supplier reference SUP00107 and Purchase Order reference 06P0027.

BG
Data Processing and Finance

[�fake� invoice and a brief form attached � asks for basic information about the company and three members of staff]

From BG to FM (Later on. Are they going to pay both???)

Dear supplier,

Your invoice (our ref 06P0041)has been passed to me for payment of $8019.00. There is an arithmetical error on the Invoice, and the total should be $8010.00. Please supply a replacement corrected invoice. International payments are made in UK � Sterling, and for these purposes we have calculated the exchange rate as 1 USD = 0.565319 GBP and the payment due as �4,528.21 . Please confirm your agreement.

I note that we do not currently have a supplier account registered for you. Please complete and return the attached registration form. For legal purposes we do require the original signature, but to expediate the first payment please send a scanned copy before posting. We will register and act on that.

As AC are based in a remote part of the UK, delivery delays often occur. We are keen to minimise these by ensuring smooth Customs clearance on international orders. Please confirm the number of boxes that will be included in this consignment, and we will arrange to send you the Customs forms that will be required in advance.

Thank you for trading with ACCF. I look forward to hearing from you shortly.

If you do contact us, please quote Supplier reference SUP00113 and Purchase Order reference 06P0041.

BG
Data Processing and Finance

From FM to MA & BG

Sorry for the mistake in the invoice here is the correct one.

The total now is $8010.

The registration form you send to us will be treated tommorow and scan and send back you.

So when you get it, please go and make the payment and let us have the payment information so that we can confirm your payment and after we confirm it your phones will be shipped out immediately.

Thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

[revised real invoice attached]

FM to BG

thanks.

Can you please let us know who's information is going to be here in the form(yours or ours).

cos we dont want to do any mistake, and let us know how to fill the form better.

Thanks and God bless.

FM (Mrs)

BG to FM

FM

Thanks - we need your details to register you as a supplier. Please send these back ASAP.

This is in case of any tax of query with regards to who payments are being made to and why; we need to have your signature on file before we can send payments (though a copy will do as long as the original is in the post. Otherwise the tax office could inspect us say that we were sending money to ourselves to pocket and not making purchases for the business. I don't know what you tax offices are like, but ours are bastards!

Our accounting system will also send you automatic online account updates when orders are placed / payments approved.

Thank you for doing business with ACCF, we look forward to hearing from you shortly.

BG

FM to BG

Thanks BG for the mail. can we scan the registration form in Black and white and fill it and then scan it and send it back to you now, cos our colour printer is faulty and we will be calling on our engineer to rectify it tommorow.

So if it can be printed out in black and white and then fill and scan. so let know so that we can do that now cos we will not have our engineer here till tommorow so if we can do that in Black and white let us know now so we do it immediately.

Thanks and gGd Bless

BG to FM

FM

Not a problem either way - please get it to us the fastest way you can.

The only important thing is that all the details need to be clear and readable and it needs to be signed.

Thanks

BG.

BG to FM

PS - Please don't forget to let me know roughly how many boxes will be in the consignment so I can get the Customs Import slips to you in advance.

Thanks

BG

FM to BG

Thanks for the mail.

Well the phones are in 3 boxes and please remember that the total payment is $8010 and not $8019.

So when you get the registration form, kindly go and make the payment and let us have the information so that we can confirm your payment and get the phones shipped out immediately.

Our payment Detail as been send to MA and here is it again

And here is the payment information of our accountant :

Name : AA

City: Lagos

Country: Nigeria

Zip code :

Text Question : How are you

Answer: Ok

So go and make the payment via western union Money Transfer now and get back to us with scan Western Union Receipt and the full Payment information, so that once we verify your payment, the phone will be shipped out and you will get it within 48hrs of payment confirmation.

Thanks And God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

Thanks nad God Bless.

FM (Mrs)
FM to BG a few moments later (very compliant! � could have sent a daft form?)

Sir, you will get the Filled Registration Form soon, so that the payment can be ready and the shippment will be faster, cos we still have so many business to do again together.

Thanks

FM (Mrs)

FM to BG (40 mins later)

Sorry for the disturbance, we just want to know who's information will be here on the form:

Purchasing Contact Name
Telephone number
Fax number
E-mail address

Is it yours or ours.

Thanks

BG to FM
FM, Leave that bit blank as you don't buy from us.

From you we need sales and finance.

Any problems, please get back to me very urgently

BG

MA to FM (Surely they�ll kill the account soon I thought? Time to up the potential losses)
FM,

Please find attached this weeks order. Please can you give me your prices (x2 Wink

) as soon as possible and get back to me urgently!

Guess what - I owe you a big favour and you don't even know it - dealing with a business in West Africa made me think of the great holiday I had in Gambia a few years back - and while I was on the internet I had a look around and booked up another one! I'm going to be staying in Banjul for two weeks over the end of January / beginning of February; hope the Hotel Corinthian Atlantic is as nice as the one in Bakau was!

Michael

PS - Can you also give me your price for each item on the list (plus a fake high one), so that I can give you the order straight next time and don't need to ask for a quote? It'll save time - I'll give you two orders, one for the high price, one for the low one, and you can send me two invoices and process the low one?

FM to MA (two hours since the first how do I? E-mail and still struggling?)

Sorry for the disturbance, we just want to know who's information will be here on the form:

Purchasing Contact Name
Telephone number
Fax number
E-mail address

Is it yours or ours.
and the Prices for the order will be send to you soon.

thanks

MA to FM

Just leave that bit blank as you won't be buying from us. You need to fill in Sales and Finance.

The most important thing is that it's signed and dated so we can keep that on file.

If you've got any more questions get in touch with BG; he deals with all the finance and money stuff, but please get the form back to him as soon as possible.

FM to MA (four to five hours to fill in a simple form???)

Thanks for the response, well the form will be signed and send to BG in the next $ to 5 hrs. and please let him go and send the Money Via Western Union and once we have confirm the payment we ship out the phones immediately.

Thanks

FM to MA (woo hoo! 3 hours since the first question, now asking about the last bit of the form!)

Sir what will be here, is it the order of the phones.

Supplier of
Mobile Phones?
Smartphones?
PDAs?
Accessories?
SIM Cards?
Mobile Software?
GPS / Satnav?

Get back to us now.

Thanks

MA didn�t get back to us now fast enough, so half an hour later the same question went to BG. They worked on the new invoice instead, and an hour later:

FM to MA (though I don�t like that tone, I can see that leading to problems when we try to amalgamate the orders to make the payment faster  )
Hello Sir, here is the new order Invoice but we will not process this until we are throught with the sales and payment of the first order,

Thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

The supplier registration forms arrive 5 and half and 5 and three quarter hours after the first query on how to fill them in. During that time FM stopped replying to other people making enquiries. In normal circumstances the forms would have needed to be redone, but I wanted this one moving quickly, as I thought the box would surely be killed soon.
FM to BG

Hello BG, Sorry for the delay, we have to make sure we got everything right.

So here is the filled form.

Go and make the payment and let us have the payment information and send to us the scanned western Union Receipt for payment verificantion.

Thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

FM to BG (An hour and a half later�)

So get back to us, so that we know that the form is accepted.

Thanks and God bless.

FM (Mrs)

FM to BG (Another hour later� do you think they are getting impatient?)

Hello Sir, we have fill and scan the form and it is now send to BG for confirmation.

So get back to us as soon as possible, so that we he had made the payment, we should be given the information for confirmation so the the phones will be shipped out immediately we confirm the payment.

Thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

BG to FM (BG ain�t sending scanned Western Union slips yet, the long forms still need done. Three times for three boxes . But they aren�t ready yet. )

Thanks

I will have you added to our computer system and get the customs forms to you ASAP; they're nearly ready.

BG

FM to BG (Bingo!)

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

[email protected]

FM to BG (received twice)

We Sir, We have been waiting to here from you, since we have scanned the registration form and filled.

hope you have received it and let us know what to do next.

And henceforth Mail us to this E-mail Address cos we are having Problem with the Gmail.

We will be waiting for your responce.

Thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

BG to FM (BG changes is mind � in fact he�d have been more than ready to make the payment  If only�)

I am *really* sorry about this - when I replied to your e-mail so many times and they all bounced I thought you must have closed and cancelled the order on the system. I'll let Mike know you're still around straightaway.

BG to FM and MA

Mike

FM has got back in touch - new address below.

BG

FM to BG and MA (Ah dear my friend, of one thing I can assure you, it won�t be that easy)

Thanks for the mail.
We just Had a problem with our gmail Id.
so let know when you will be sending the money via Western Union Money Transfer, cos your phones as been packed and ready for shippment.

Thanks and God Bless.
FM (Mrs)
(account was reported at this point � that statement looked like enough to be going on!)

FM to BG and MA (It�s an hour since her last e-mail and she hasn�t heard anything. Poor thing)

So send back to us the mailes that you have been sending to us for us to know what next to do.

Thanks and God Bless.
FM (Mrs)
FM to BG and MA (Another hour later, another frantic reminder)
Sir, Please get back to us soon so that we can know what to do next cos your phones as been packed and ready for shippment.
Thanks

MA to FM (Time for the bad news)

FM

I am truly sorry about this.

Our order was most urgent, and as my accountant told me that he could not get in touch with you, I cancelled the order and placed it with the person who gave me the second cheapest quote.

I would prefer to place future orders with yourself, because of the other co-operation you offered which is very valuable, and your keen prices. When my next order is ready; I will send it to you (but this will be about two weeks time).

Please please keep in touch - please tell me immediately if there is any change in your contact details so that I can update our records. I will tell BG to register your account anyway, so that it is ready to be used when our order is ready.

In the mean time, please also send me your price list, and tell me immediately if there are any updates to it. We will load your prices onto our computer system, and then there will be no delay when we place our next order.

Thank you for your assistance - I am very sorry about the other two orders, but there will be plenty more over the coming months.

Please please keep in touch.

Mike

FM to MA & BG (Seven minutes for a reply. Sent to each person twice, just in case)
Hello Sir, We are Very Surprice that you could do this to us, the is the first order we are getting from you and we have done so much to make sure we had a Good Business with you but the way you are repaying us is not the best.
But remember we has sent to you the scanned and filled Registration form which you know we go throught alot of stress just to satisfy your company, now you are telling us you have place the order with someone else, remember the phones are packed and already for shippment which will be a great loose to us cos it is been registered with the Courier service that will be shipping it out to you.
But you have the E-mail Id of our finance Accountant in the filled registration form whish is [email protected], why cant you get to us thru that since the gmail is not working.
We are still beleiving that you will stilll love this phones to you shipped out to you cos it is already registered and it is going to be a great loose to us if you canceal the order.
So please sir, kindly back to us cos we beleive that as a good business man that you are you will not be willing for us to loose just because dealing with you, well the other company you gave the deal to will not be as fast as we have been cos we are already have the phones packed and ready for shippment, and our information is there with you to show you how serious we are, and once we get the payment confirmation the phones will be shipped out to you and within 24 to 49 hrs you get the phones at your door step.

So please sir, kindly let have this business done cos we will be loosing alot because we have gotten ready for shippment.
Thanks and God Bless.
FM (Mrs)
FM to BG (A further plea for assistance)
Hello BG,
Please help us talk to Mike cos we have done so much about the phones and dey are packed ready for shippment, and it's already registered with the courier service that will be shipping it out to you.
Please help us talk to him and we promise to never fail you.
Thanks and God Bless.
FM (Mrs)
FM to MA (Twelve minutes later � another plea for mercy)

Our shippment will be faster than that of the other company cos all we need for shippment now is just the payment information, and once we get that the phones will be with you within 24 hrs.
So kindly do this with us cos we dont want to loose this for we have done so much on this.
We will be looking forward to hear from you, please do this with you and more will come next after this.
Thanks and God Bless.
FM (Mrs)
FM to MA (confusing - I know she�s seen the message � did this go out because her box was deleted?)

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

[email protected]

MA to BG (I e-mail myself. First sign of madness?)

BG - do you have any idea what is going on with these people? The new address doesn't work either.

Mike

BG to FM (including last two messages. It apparently bounces)

FM - please confirm if this is your address

FM to MA (still on the hotmail account � confusing)

Sir, Please get back to us soon so that we can know what to do next cos your phones as been packed and ready for shippment.

Thanks

BG to MA

In a word - no. I've just tried the other address too; I'll let you know.

I am paying the other company; this one is definitely cancelled until they've got whatever sorted out.

FM to MA & BG (still on hotmail � even more confused. She sends it to both twice a few minutes apart )
Thanks BG, Well this is our email address [email protected] or [email protected].
The formal gmail ([email protected]), is no more working fine and we have to tell you this cos all your phones is packed and ready for shippment.
BG, this is the real email address, just get back to us immediately, cos we are about shipping out your phones, we just needed to confirm your payment before we ship out.
you can get back to us with any of the yahoo oy hotmail address.
Thanks and God Bless.
FM (Mrs)

Oh, shit. I�ve just remembered. I made up the failed delivery receipts I sent to her on the account that �wasn�t working�. Damm. Never mind, two hours later she e-mails from another account (immediately reported):

FM to MA & BG

Hello sir,

This is FM , I had to make use of the company accountant email for you to know this is our address.

For you to know that this is our address, we are sending to you the filled form again, so that you know this is our address.

So get back to us quickly, so that the phones can be shipped out to you immediately we confirm your payment.

Thanks and God Bless

FM (Mrs)

Both MA and BG got the same e-mail again and more repeated reminders regularly through the night for 10 hours. Unfortunately Arctic do not offer a 24 hour service.

So get back to us from here if you are having problem with the hotmail, get back to us on this yahoo.

so let's know if we should get the phones for shipping cos it's ready now for shipping.

Thanks

FM (Mrs)

This is our email address and we have all what it takes to ship the phones out to you, but what we are after now is just that we get the payment information via western union money transfer and immediately your phones will be shipped out and you get it very soon.

So get back to us soon.

Thanks

FM (Mrs)

So get back to us from here if you are having problem with the hotmail, get back to us on this yahoo.

so let's know if we should get the phones for shipping cos it's ready now for shipping.

Thanks

FM (Mrs)

This is our email address and we have all what it takes to ship the phones out to you, but what we are after now is just that we get the payment information via western union money transfer and immediately your phones will be shipped out and you get it very soon.

So get back to us soon.

Thanks

FM (Mrs)

Hello Sir,

It's been 7hrs we hear from you, well we just wantto know if the money will be send today cos the phones are already packed and ready for shippment.

We really want to do business with you cos we know you will be willing to do more after this with us.

So please get back to us as soon as possible for us to know what next to do.

Thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

MA to FM (the bad news arrives again)

FM

I am mixed up now - I don't know which of my messages you are getting.

Did you get my message last night apologising as I had placed the order with someone else when I couldn't contact you? We cancelled the order, brought it back again when we heard from your new address, but cancelled it again completely when it didn't work either. My accountant went out to pay the other company today.

I am really sorry about this. Please don't worry too much, I want to place my next order and many more to follow with you, because of your keen prices and your help with the invoices.

Please keep in touch with me to let me know how to contact you, and you will receive our next order when we make it, in about two weeks time. BG will add your supplier details to our computer system when he is back in the office, so that there can be no delay with the next order.

I also asked you to send me your full price list. We want to add this to our computer system too, so that when we make our next order we do not need to wait for a quotation, but only for your invoices and confirmation that you have the phones in stock. This will also speed things up next time

I look forward to hearing from you.

MA to FM

FM, this is the message I don�t think you got.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: MA
To: FM <[email protected]>

FM

I am truly sorry about this.

Our order was most urgent, and as my accountant told me that he could not get in touch with you, I cancelled the order and placed it with the person who gave me the second cheapest quote.

I would prefer to place future orders with yourself, because of the other co-operation you offered which is very valuable, and your keen prices. When my next order is ready; I will send it to you (but this will be about two weeks time).

Please please keep in touch - please tell me immediately if there is any change in your contact details so that I can update our records. I will tell BG to register your account anyway, so that it is ready to be used when our order is ready.

In the mean time, please also send me your price list, and tell me immediately if there are any updates to it. We will load your prices onto our computer system, and then there will be no delay when we place our next order.

Thank you for your assistance - I am very sorry about the other two orders, but there will be plenty more over the coming months.

Please please keep in touch.

MA

MA to FM

This is one of the e-mails I don't know if you got

From: MA

FM - what is going on - Your new address isn't working either - and the old one still isn't - see the mesages below.

What messages did you get? I am going to resend my last message to all your addresses.

Please get back to me tomorrow.

From: BG

In a word - no. I've just tried the other address too; I'll let you know.

I am paying the other company; this one is definitely cancelled until they've got whatever sorted out.

On 1/11/06, MA < [email protected]> wrote:
BG - do you have any idea what is going on with these people? The new address doesn't work either.

MA

From: Mail Delivery Subsystem < [email protected]>

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

[email protected]

FM to MA & BG (Nope � not getting the message)
Hello Sir,
Why do you have to do this to us with all the effort we have made to make you our customer.
We do get all the mail and we reply you back.
Well we regrest it that you have to do the business met for us with another company.
Hope you still want to do business with us.
Hope to hear from you soon.

FM (Mrs)

BH to FM (Another ray of hope for the future? � FMs details get put on the computer system?)

I am an automated computer generated e-mail. I cannot reply from this address. If you have any queries about this message please direct to your existing contact at ACCF

IMPORTANT

Our website will shortly be launching at www.-.com.

Your supplier details have been added to our computer system as follows. Check these details carefully and notify us of any errors, as this information will be used for processing orders and payments.

Supplier reference: SUP00107
...
(the usual nonsense)
...

CURRENT ACCOUNT STATUS SUPPLIER SUP00107
ORDER 062P00207 AMOUNT �7,752.97 DATEAUTH 08012006 STATUS CANCELLED

BH to FM (A few hours later � a definite ray of hope � looks like the real order hasn�t been cancelled!)

I am an automated computer generated e-mail. I cannot reply from this address. If you have any queries about this message please direct to your existing contact at ACCF

IMPORTANT

Our website will shortly be launching at www.-.com.

Your supplier details have been added to our computer system as follows. Check these details carefully and notify us of any errors, as this information will be used for processing orders and payments.

Supplier reference: SUP00113
...
(the usual nonsense)
...

CURRENT ACCOUNT STATUS SUPPLIER SUP00113
ORDER 062P0041 AMOUNT �4528.21 DATEAUTH 08012006 STATUS PAYMENT PENDING

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FM to BG & MA (FM replies to BG and Mike. Not got the message from black.hole?)

Thanks BG, we have really made a loose dealing with you, but we hope your company order from us soon to make us fill we have no lose.

Well here is our new email([email protected]).

So get back to us as soon as possible.

Thanks

FM (Mrs)

BH to FM (We update the new address on the computer system. Will she notice this time?)

I am an automated computer generated e-mail. I cannot reply from this address. If you have any queries about this message please direct to your existing contact at ACCF

Your supplier details have been updated on our computer system where highlighted. Check these details carefully and notify us of any errors, as this information will be used for processing orders and payments.

Supplier reference: SUP00113
...
(the usual nonsense)
...
CURRENT ACCOUNT STATUS SUPPLIER SUP00113
ORDER 062P0041 AMOUNT �4528.21 DATEAUTH 08012006 STATUS PAYMENT PENDING

<I�ve taken out a rather boring episode where FM corrected the payment information on both accounts, and black.hole sent out more automatic confirmations. (A y was a t � I couldn�t read her writing.)

FM to BG A day later - the penny seems to have dropped!

So what is the next step fpr us cos we see that the payment is pending, so can we still go ahead with the packaging of the phones cos they are ready for shippment now.

Get back to us as soon as possible.

thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

But BG knows that the order has in fact been cancelled, and has told her in no uncertain terms. What to do? Time for someone else in the company to stick their oar in, methinks! Hilary of course won�t actually make the payment, that would be too easy. The message bounces (this time for real)

HS to AA

Mr AA,

There is a payment showing as due to you (or your client Mobile Phone House Inc) on the record, but I do not have the bank details to make a BACS transfer. Please advise Branch Sort Code and Account Name / Number.

Thanks

HS

CURRENT ACCOUNT STATUS SUPPLIER SUP00113
ORDER 062P0041 AMOUNT �4528.21 DATEAUTH 08012006 STATUS PAYMENT PENDING

HS to FM.

Please could you pass the message below on to your finance section, and also advise me of the correct address?

Thanks

H

FM to HS

Thanks Mr. H,

You could reach the finance section here too, well this is the Email address we will be using with your company since you complain about the yahoo.

The Name is AA.

and the payment is thru Western Union Money Transfer, we have discuss this with Mr. MA and he as said that the Money will be send.

So please go and send the Money Via Western Union Money Transfer and get back to us with the full payment information cos the phones are ready for shippment.

Thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

HS to FM Oh? You wanted payment by WU? Lets pass the buck to Mike again!

Ah - sorry. I was thinking I could pay it straight into your bank account if I had the number. That must be why it's still on the system not paid. Mike must be dealing with it then, but he's not in today. I'll get the record corrected and pass on your message.

FM to HS (I don�t think that�s what Mike said. Last I heard he cancelled the order!)

Thanks for the mail.

well MA said he has told BG to go and send the money thru western union to us, and we have package the phones and ready for shippment, so get back to us now so we know when the money will be send cos we dont want to loose our money and also loose the phones.

so go and send the money and let us have the payment information.

Thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

FM to MA

Hello we just got a mail from H that you are handling the western union payment yourself, so get back to us and let know when you will be making the payment.

Thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

HS to FM Nope � Hilary isn�t going to go out and send the money 

Sorry, yeah, it would be BG. They are both away on business today, but they'll be back in the office tomorrow.

Hillary

FM to various. Obviously able to smell money again. Different people get various reminders during the night. Arctic received 19 e-mails over the next 18 hours, during the night

Please let BG, go and send the money and let us have the information so that the phones will be shipped out immediately.

Thanks and God Bless

FM (Mrs)

... and throughout the morning

Hello Sir, here it's morning here and we are ready to ship out the phones but we are waiting to have the payment information from you, for us to make confirmation b4 we ship out the phones.

So please go and send the money and let us have the payment information asap.

Thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

� and the afternoon

Go and make the payment fast!!!

Hello Sir, here it's morning here and we are ready to ship out the phones but we are waiting to have the payment information from you, for us to make confirmation b4 we ship out the phones.

So please go and send the money and let us have the payment information asap.

Thanks and God Bless.

FM (Mrs)

BG to FM Time for the bad news again.

Hello

I have just got your messages; I was out of the office. Unfortunately there seems to be some kind of misunderstanding here.

What seems to have happened is that we have two supplier accounts for you on the computer system. I'm arranging for the duplicate one to get shut down. I think you did receive my apologies for cancelling the order when you were having problems with your e-mail address?

I can assure you again that we will place our next order with you, we'll probably be ordering again in about a weeks time, depending on what sales over the weekend are like.

I know Mike asked you to send a full price list so that we can get the next order moving faster, and presuming you've done that hopefully there won't be a problem next time.

We definitely will be ordering from you again. Not only were the other company a little bit more expensive, but I don't think they followed our instructions for getting the goods through customs, as something seems to be delaying delivery and we are still waiting for the goods. (And they didn't offer that other bit of extra assistance with the tax that you could.)

Sorry again, but you will be hearing from us I promise!

BG

BH to FM. Just for confirmation of that�

I am an automated computer generated e-mail. I cannot reply from this address. If you have any queries about this message please direct to your existing contact at ACCF

IMPORTANT

Your supplier details have been updated on our computer system where highlighted. Check these details carefully and notify us of any errors, as this information will be used for processing orders and payments.

Supplier reference: SUP00107
...
(the usual nonsense)
...
CURRENT ACCOUNT STATUS SUPPLIER SUP00107
ORDER 062P0027 AMOUNT �7752.97 DATEAUTH 08012006 STATUS CANCELLED
ORDER 062P0041 AMOUNT �4528.21 DATEAUTH 08012006 STATUS CANCELLED

*******************************************************************************************************
URGENT MESSAGE: SOME OF OUR SUPPLIERS HAVE RECENTLY HAD TROUBLE
WITH THEIR EMAIL ACCOUNTS. IF THIS HAPPENS PLEASE LET US KNOW YOUR
NEW ADDRESS URGENTLY, TO AVOID CANCELLATIONS AND DELAYS. YOU CAN
NOW ALSO LET US KNOW ALTERNATIVE E-MAIL ADDRESSES BY EMAILING
data.- AND WE WILL KEEP THEM ON FILE.
*******************************************************************************************************

She just sent the original price list from the very beginning again. I don�t think it�ll help her avoid the quote stage next time, it doesn�t have any of the phones we ordered on it, I ordered from the complete range of HTC phones and PDAs. Tut tut.

Never mind � Would it be too evil for BG to give her a little flavour of what she�s missing out on? No. I didn�t think so either. (It�s going to be very very important she gets those customs forms right when it�s her turn.)

BG to FM

FM

Can you just confirm if your prices include export tax?

It's just our other order got delayed and we had to send more money to them, almost another $1400. I wondered if your prices didn't include it either.

Thanks

FM to BG
Our price include the tax export.

So get back to us with your order.

Thanks

FM

FM to BG

Get back to me thru is email ... (I get an e-mail addy that isn't seeded anywhere - looks like she doesn't want any more e-mail problems Smile

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