| Poll :: How to play the endgame? |
| Dangle a western union transfer receipt and try to phish out his password. |
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43% |
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| Try to get him to send "clearance fees" just like his uncle did to the church clearance department person named A. R. Cross (American Red Cross) ... this might be an effort |
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30% |
[ 7 ] |
| Kill it with the "Insulting the lads format" |
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26% |
[ 6 ] |
| Any other ideas??? ... please describe in your response ... |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
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badbaiter
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Sat May 21, 2005 8:13 pm |
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This is another classic 'unclaimed millions of a dead relative' scam and I wont bore you with the details of the bait. This lad has bitten hard on the bait. I figured, for a change, I do a poll on the forums here and see if you experts are interested in deciding how this ends or maybe in finding new ways to put my pet out of his misery.
The story starts with Barrister Wilson (scammer) contacting the Reverend (me). I'm baiting him on the original "Church of Red Breast" story-line. I'm gonna cut through the fluff and just put down a chronologically organised sequence of 'important' events that have unfolded so far:
03/05/2005:
Barrister Wilson needs help with unclaimed dead man's millions and is fortunate to have the good Reverend respond to his opening scam letter. Unfortunately Reverend can't help unless he joins the church.
03/08/2005:
Barrister Wilson ignores Reverend's mail and explains the claim procedures. The good Reverend returns favor by ignoring the pet.
03/12/2005:
Barrister Wilson is getting antsy in his pants and does not like the lack of response from the good Reverend. He sends the claim procedures again. Attaches fake documents. The good Reverend tells him to go read the previous mail.
03/13/2005:
Barrister Wilson assures me of a risk free transaction, demands phone number, asks me to call him... bla bla bla...
Reverend ignores pet.
03/16/2005:
Pet (Barrister Wilson) is not happy and starts demanding if the reverend is serious.
Reverend response: SLAP
03/17/2005:
Pet feelings are hurt and pet protests. Reverend response: SLAP SLAP
03/20/2005:
Barrister Wilson wants to join the church. Reverend happy to help, explains church induction procedure. sends example induction photograph.
03/22/2005:
Barrister Wilson is an eager beaver and jumps the gun. Sends fake "ID" and fake "passport" instead of the induction photogaph. Now the lad is stuck cuz he cant send a real induction photograph that might blow the cover. I decide to press on anyways and tell him there is no way I can help without his induction.
03/24/2005:
Barrister Wilson urges Reverend to use "ID" for the induction photograph and send the induction agreement for him to sign. Reverend response: SLAP.
03/28/2005:
Barrister Wilson says he will send induction photograph as soon as possible.
03/30/2005:
Barrister Jude (son of Barrister Wilson) contacts me and informs me of his dad's death. Says that his father told him about the church and the transaction and he wants to complete the induction procedure and complete the transaction. Reverend is shocked to and prays for the 'departed soul', agrees to let Barrister Jude fill in for his 'dad'. Offers a carrot (a few hundred thousand dollars to open a new church branch in Nigeria in his father's name).
04/02/2005:
Barrister Jude re-affirms his intent to join the church and promises to send induction photograph immediately. Reverend is busy with the funeral of the pope.
04/04/2005:
Barrister Jude assures that the induction photograph is almost ready and says he is also making arrangements for a new church branch in Nigeria.
04/09/2005:
At this point some baiter hacked (way to go!) into the email account of my lad. He sends me an email from another account and asks me to 'renounce' any communication from the old email.
I decide to play Jude a little differently on this event by making him believe that his email was hacked into by another scammer and he's trying to 'steal the mugu'.
I wait a few days to prime the fella. Besides, I was really busy with some stuff.
04/12/2005:
Jude is concerned that I did not respond, says that induction photograph is ready and wants my phone number.
04/14/2005:
I explain to him that I received email from his "uncle" on the old email address and that Barrister Wilson is very much alive and is responding on that email. Barrister Wilson told me that Jude is really his 12 year old nephew who is hacking into his "uncle's" office computers and playing pranks on people. Ofcourse, I'm 'believing' all that.
04/15/2005:
My pet Jude is now desperate tells me that he is indeed the son of his late father Barrister Wilson and asks me to tell the other guy to get his induction photograph and verify other stuff bla bla bla.... I dont respond.
04/17/2005:
The pet pings me again. I tell him to go home and play monopoly or some other board games instead of meddling in his uncle's affairs. I tell him I am dealing with his uncle Barrister Wilson and he has agreed to complete the induction procedures and told me not to listen to his nephew Jude.
04/19/2005:
Hopeless pleas .. Jude says he is not a child... he is 30 year old law student .... induction photograph is ready ... he wants to join church....
Reverend wants to hear none of it. So I tell him to go date a chimp and I'm dealing with his uncle.
04/21/2005:
More desperate pleas...
I was really busy so I just dont respond.. I had also lost the interest at that point.
04/25/2005:
He really wants to hear back from me... sounds really crestfallen that someone else stole his 'hard work' ...
I just let him simmer ...
05/10/2005:
I send him a "desperate sounding" mail telling him that I sent his uncle $12,000 for the fees and expenses of the transaction and never heard back from his uncle. See how he responds....
05/12/2005:
Jude is simply glad to be back in the game. He thinks I have really lost money to the 'other scammer' and decides to get some more out of me. Here follows some email transcript:
scammer is in red
me (Reverend Donald Trump) is in blue
comments are in bold black
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Thu, 12 May 2005
Subject: NEW DEVELOPMENT
DEAR DONALD,
SORRY FOR NOT REACHING YOU FOR SOME TIME NOW THIS IS BECAUSE I TRAVELED TO ABUJA TO COMPLETE THIS TRANSACTION WITH THE RELEVANT BODY THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE SUCCESS OF THIS TRANSACTION AS DEMANED BY MY UNCLE BARRISTER WILSON.
THE $11,970 HAS BEEN USED AS MY UNCLE EXPLAINED TO YOU EALIER PRESENTLY THE BANK DIRECTOR IS DEMANDING FOR A TABLE TIP OF $2500 DOLLARS WHICH HE SAID WILL BE SHARED AMONG THE TOP BANK OFFICIALS.
THIS HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE 10TH OF MAY 2005 SO PLEASE MY VERY GOOD FRIEND SEND THIS MONEY TOMORROW THROUGH MY UNCLES SECRETARY.
MR MADUAKA UGOCHUKWU ALEX.
DO NOT ALSO FORGET TO SEND ME THE PAYMENT INFORMATION SO THAT I CAN GET BACK TO THE BANK TO CONCLUDE THIS TRANSACTION.
EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM YOU.
REMAIN BLESS.
BAR JUDE JACK
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I'm busy.. I ignore him.
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Fri, 13 May 2005
Subject: PLEASE I NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU
DEAR DONALD,
HOW ARE YOU TODAY? PLEASE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT I HEAR FROM YOU CONCERNING MY LAST MAIL. REMENBER HOW FAR WE HAVE GONE IN THIS TRANSACTION. MY UNCLE IS VERY WORRIED BECAUSE OF THE BANK'S TABLE TIP WE ARE YET TO SETTLE.
YOU KNOW THE OFFICIALS HAS A LOT TO DO TO SEE THAT WE CONCLUDE THIS TRANSACTION IN FEW DAYS FROM NOW.
PLEASE I AND MY UNCLE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT TOWARDS THIS TRANSACTION AND URGE YOU TO DO YOUR BEST AS WE ARE EXPECTED TO REACH THE BANK ON OR BEFORE MONDAY THE 16TH OF MAY 2005 WITH THE $2,500.
ONCE AGAIN THANKS FOR YOUR EFFORT AND UNDERSTANDING SINCE WE STARTED THIS TRANSACTION.
REMAIN BLESS
BAR.JUDE JACK
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I'm down $12 grand and I'm not happy... need explanations.
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Fri, 13 May 2005
Subject: Re: PLEASE I NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU
Dear Brother Jude,
If your uncle is so worried, they why does he not
respond to my mails to him.
I paid him the money he had requested for the
transaction and since then I have not heard back from
him. And now you are asking for more money. You are
not even a member of the church Holy Order yet.
What guarantees do I have that you too will take the
money and I will not hear back from you either.
Remember that God is watching upon us all and those
who stray and err will be punished by His Almight
himself. Ask your uncle to get in touch with me if you
want any more of my involvement. I have a lot of
questions for him.
Reverend Donald Trump
Financial Development
Holy Church of the Order of the Red Breast
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Sat, 14 May 2005
Subject: KINDLY REASON ABOUT THIS
DEAR DONALD,
SEQUEL TO YOUR EMAIL RESPONSE, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCISE MAIL CONTENTS OF WHICH ARE UNDERSTOOD AND APPRECIATED. I WILL CONCENTRATE ON THE ISSUE OF TRUST WHICH MIGHT TO BE THE MAJOR IMPEDIMENT TO OUR CONSUMMATING OUR BUISNESS RELATIONSHIP AND REEPING THE FRUIT OF OUR LABOUR.
AS YOU RIGHTLY SAID IT IS TRUE THAT I AM NOT YET A MEMBER BUT YOU KNOW I AM VERY MUCH INTERESTED AND THAT EVEN MY UNCLE DESIRE THAT I JOIN ALSO SO THERE IS NO WAY I CAN NOT JOIN AND ALSO BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HAVE AHEAD IN THIS TRANSACTION.
YOU CAN RECALL THAT I WAS ABOUT SENDING MY PICTURE BEFORE YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT MY BEING A CHILD WHICH DELAYED MY MEMBERSHIP AND EVEN THIS TRANSACTION.
MY UNCLE HAS BEEN UNABLE TO REACH YOU BECAUSE HE IS ON TREATMENT AS HE NORMALLY DOES DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE IS DIABETIC. THIS TIME AROUND HE HAS BEEN SEROUSLY DOWN THAT IS WHY I HANDLE EVERYTHING NOW. BUT HE HAS PROMISE TO TRY AND REACH YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
MY LAYING MYSELF BARE BEFORE YOU IS ONLY DUE TO MY ABIDING LOVE FOR TRANSPARENCY,KINDLY REASON ABOUT THIS,FOR THIS IS AN IDEA THAT IS ALIVE LETS NOT KILL IT.
MY DEAR, OUR TIME HAS COME,WE HAVE REACHED THE RUBICON,THERE IS NO GOING BACK.LADY LUCK IS AFTERALL-OPPORTUNITY MET WITH PREPAREDNESS
WE CANNOT AFFORD NOT TO MET WITH THE BANK'S DEMAND KNOWING HOW FAR WE HAVE GONE IN THIS TRANSACTION AND WHAT THAT WILL MEAN. OR AFFORD TO GEOPADISE OUR GAINS IN THIS TRANSATION BECAUSE OF MY UNCLES ILLNESS WHICH WILL BE OVER SOON.
PLEASE I URGE YOU TO SEND THE MONEY ON MONDAY UNFAILINGLY AS MONDAY IS THE FINAL DAY GIVEN BY THE BANK SO THAT I CAN PROCEED TO THE BANK FOR THE FINALE FEES.
REMAIN BLESS
BAR. JUDE JACK
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Diabetic hospitalized uncle huh! Yeah! I'm buyin that... let's go for the trophy picture and get some explanations... afterall I'm supposed to have lost $12k
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Sat, 14 May
Subject: Re: KINDLY REASON ABOUT THIS
Dear Brother Jude,
I will not send you any more money unless I have your
induction into the church completed.
In addition to that, I need a detailed explanation as
to what happened to the money that has already been
sent.
Regards,
Reverend Donald Trump
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Mon, 16 May 2005
Subject: THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL
DEAR DONALD,
THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL, I HAVE TAKEN THE PHOTOGRAPH ACCORDING TO THE INSTRUCTION, I WILL SCAN AND SEND IT TO YOU AS SOON AS THE PHOTOGRAPH IS READY NOMALLY IT TAKES TWO TO THREE DAYS TO PRINT A PHOTOGRAPH ACCORDING TO THE PHOTOGRAPHER.
AS FOR THE MONEY YOU SENT BEFORE IT WAS USED TO PROCURE THE DOCUMENT I HAVE FORWARDED TO THE BANK TO SUBSTANTIATE OUR CLAIM.
THE DOCUMENT INCLUDE AFFIDEVIT OF CLAIM, THE DEATH CERTIFICATE, CERTIFICATE OF DEPOSIT AND NIGERIA POLICE REPORT.
EVERY ARRANGEMENT HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE TO CONCLUDE THIS TRANSACTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BUT FOR THIS LITTLE TABLE TIP I TOLD YOU ABOUT.
THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF IT IS THAT FAILING TO COME UP WITH THIS $2,500 BY TOMORROW THE BANK WE DECLEAR US UNSERIOUS AND THIS MAY MAKE THEM TO DECLEAR THE FUND UNSERVICEABLE.
PLEASE TRY YOUR BEST TO SEE THAT YOU SEND THIS MONEY ON OR BEFORE TOMORROW THE 17TH OF MAY 2005 SO THAT I CAN GET BACK TO THE BANK.
I SHALL CONCLUDE THIS CHURCH INDUCTION AS SOON AS THE PHOTOGRAPH IS OUT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
REMAIN BLESS,
BAR JUDE JACK
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Yeah yeah... just send the damn trophy pic!
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Mon, 16 May 2005
Subject: Re: THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL
Dear Brother Jude,
I am not sending any more of the church money to you
unless I receive your induction photograph and I see a
scan of the document you procured for the claim.
If you want me to send the remaining $2500 by tomorrow
send the induction photograph and the claim document
that your uncle has procured using the money we sent
earlier.
I will duscuss the additional $2500 grant with the
church finances disbursement committee today.
Blessings,
Reverend Donald Trump
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Tue, 17 May 2005
Subject: THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL AND UNDERSTANDING
DEAR DONALD,
THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL AND UNDERSTANDING, I SHALL SEND TO YOU ALL THE DOCUMENTS WE HAVE PROCURED TO SUBSTANTIATE OUR CLAIM BY TOMMOROW AND I WILL ALSO VISIT THE PHOTOGRAPHER TO FIND OUT IF THE INDUCTION PHOTOGRAPH IS READY SO THAT I CAN SCAN AND SEND IT AS WELL.
BUT AS IT STANDS NOW I AM AFRIED THE BANK MAY NOT GRANT THIS DELAY AS WE HAVE ALREADY EXCEEDED THE DEAD LINE GIVEN BY THE BANK. REMEBER WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY TO SEE THAT THIS TRANSCATION IS SUCESFUL.AND WE CAN NOT AFFORD TO LOOSE WHAT WE HWVE LABOURED FOR.
PLEASE I STILL URGE YOU TO SEND THE MONEY SO THAT I CAN SETTLE WITH THE BANK WHILE I GET MY PICTURE FOR THE INDUCTION.
ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.
MY VERY BEST REGARD
BAR JUDE WILSON
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Imposing deadlines on me enh! I'm pretty sure the bank will conveniently extend the deadlines
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Tue, 17 May 2005
Subject: Re: THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL AND UNDERSTANDING
Dear Brother Jude,
If the bank will deny the claim, then so be it. It is
just a risk we have to take. We at the church walked
into this knowing very well that we may lose the grant
money we send you incase you or your uncle turned out
to be cheats. That is the risk we had to take
considering the amount of funds you were going to
transfer into our accounts.
So far we have not heard anything about the transfer
and all we have on our hands is you asking for even
more money. And we have not heard from your uncle,
which we now understand that he is very ill. But you
should have informed us about his illness much
earlier.
So the decision of the church committee is to not send
you any more funds until we are completely satisfied
that you have put the funds already sent to you to
good use. This is in addition to your completion of
the church induction procedure.
If the bank refuses to honour the claim after this
date because of whatever delays, then we expect that
you will let us know that the claim cannot be
processed anymore. We shall accept that loss, end any
further communication with you and move on. Such
losses happen in the church business all the time.
Blessings,
Reverend Donald Trump
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And voila...
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Wed, 18 May 2005
Subject: THE BANK HAS GIVEN US AN EXTENTION OF ONE WEEK
DEAR DONALD,
THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL, I WILL SCAN AND SEND YOU THE LEGAL DOCUMENT AND THE CHURCH INDUCTION AS YOU DEMANDED WITHIN THREE (3) WORKING DAYS.
THE BANK HAS ALSO GIVEN ME AN EXTENTION OF ONE WEEK TO MAKE THE PAYMENT AFTER I PLEADED WITH THEM THAT MY UNCLE HAS BEEN HOSPITALISED WHICH I FEEL IS ENOUGH FOR YOU TO SEE THE DOCUMENT, I SHALL SEND TO YOU.
THANKS FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING,
REMAIN BLESS,
BAR JUDE JACK
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Still need trophy pic...
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Wed, 18 May 2005
Subject: Re: THE BANK HAS GIVEN US AN EXTENTION OF ONE WEEK
Dear Brother Jude,
We will await the documents proving that the money we
have sent you have been put to good use. I am also
anticipating your induction photograph and as soon as
I have received that, I will forward you your
induction agreement that you will sign and fax back to
us.
Additional $2500 should not be a problem as long as we
are convinced that you are indeed working to complete
the transaction.
Blessings,
Reverend Donald Trump
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Thu, 19 May 2005
Subject: ATTACHED HERE ARE THE DOCUMENTS YOU ASK FOR.
DEAR DONALD,
THANKS FOR YOUR TIMELY RESPONSE TO MY EMAIL, I HAVE ATTACHED TO THIS MAIL THE DOCUMENTS WE PROCURED WITH THE MONEY YOU SENT TO MY UNCLE WHICH THE BANK REQUESTED IN ORDER TO PROVE TO THEM THAT YOU ARE TRUE BENEFICIARY TO LATE MR LARRY TRUMP.
THE BANK HAVE SENT A LETTER OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO INFORM ME THAT THEY HAVE ACCEPTED THE DOCUMENT AFTER VERIFICATION.
THE PREVIOUS MONEY YOU SENT WAS USED AS FOLLOWS.
1 AFFIDEVIT OF CLAIM $3,500.
2 DEATH CERTIFICATE $3,200.
3 DEPOSIT CERTIFICATE $5,250 BEING THE DUMURAGE THAT IT ACCOMULATED WITH CITY TRUST COMPANY WHERE IT WAS KEPT BY LATE MR LARRY TRUMP FOR SAFE KEEPING.
AS IT IS NOW WHAT IS HOLDING THIS TRANSACTION IS THE $2500 I TOLD YOU ABOUT WHICH I NEED TO PAY BY TOMORROW BEEN FRIDAY 20TH MAY 2005.
I STILL PRAY AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO TO GET THE MONEY ACROSS TO ME BY TOMORROW.
AS FOR THE CHURCH INDUCTION MY PHOTOGRAPH WILL BE READY BY SATUDAY SO I SHALL SCAN AND SEND IT TO YOU IMMEDIATELY I GET IT FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHER.
EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM YOU WITH THE PAYMENT INFORMATION.
REMAIN BLESS,
BAR JUDE JACK
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Some more fake documents attached... no trophy yet?!!
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Thu, 19 May 2005
Subject: Re: ATTACHED HERE ARE THE DOCUMENTS YOU ASK FOR.
Dear Brother Jude,
Thankyou for sending the documents. I looked at them
and I believe you indeed have put the money sent to
you to good use. However, as I mentioned before,
convincing the church committee to release more funds
would not be possible unless we have your complete
induction into the church. Therefore, unless you send
us the induction protograph by tomorrow, we wont be
able to send you any more funds.
I'm looking forward to your response.
Reverend Donald Trump
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Fri, 20 May 2005
Subject: REMAIN BLESS
DEAR DONALD,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIMELY RESPONSE TO MY MAIL, I WILL SCAN AND SEND TO YOU MY PHOTOGRAPH AS SOON AS I COLLECT IT FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHER FOR ME TO COMPLETE THE CHURCH INDUCTION.
NEVERTHELESS, THE MONEY IS STILL VERY IMPORTANT AS IT IS THE ONLY THING HOLDING THIS TRANSACTION IN ORDER FOR THE BANK TO SEND YOU THE TRANSFER SLIP.
PLEASE MY VERY GOOD FRIEND AND BROTHER TRY AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO SO THAT ALL MY EFFORT OVER HERE AND EVEN YOURS WILL NOT BE IN VAIN.
AS FOR JOINING THE CHURCH I GUARANTEE YOU MY MEMBERSHIP AS IF I AM NOT INTERESTED I WILL NOT HAVE CONTINUED THIS TRANSACTION WITH YOU TILL THIS LEVEL.
YOU CAN SEND THIS MONEY FROM YOUR OWN FUND TO COLLECT IT BACK AFTER MY INDUCTION WHEN THE CHURCH WILL RELEASE FUND FOR THE TRANSACTION.
EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM YOU WITH THE PAYMENT INFORMATION TODAY AS TODAY IS THE LAST WORKING DAY IN THE WEEK.
REMAIN BLESS,
BAR JUDE JACK
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He wants me to send money from my own funds. To quote from the capital one ad .. "The answer is always NOOOO..."
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Fri, 20 May 2005
Subject: Re: REMAIN BLESS
Dear Brother Jude,
Your uncle has already collected almost $12000 from
us. We wont send you any more money unless the church
requirements are fully met.
Best Regards,
Reverend Donald Trump
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And so the trophy picture arrives....
nice monkey! ... slam dunk # 1 accomplished
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Fri, 20 May 2005
Subject: MY INDUCTION PHOTOGRAPH
DEAR DONALD,
IT IS IMPORTANT TO INFORM YOU THAT I HAVE COLLECT MY PHOTOGRAPH AND HENCE I AM FORWARD IT TO YOU FOR YOUR PERUSAL.
PLEASE AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE THE INDUCTION PICTURE GET BACK TO ME IMMEDIATELY. VIEW THE ATTACHED FILE
.JUDE JACK,
REMAIN BLESS
ATTACHED:
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Oh... i'm just too busy to respond.
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Sat, 21 May 2005
Subject: DID YOU RECEIVE MY INDUCTION PHOTOGRAPH
DEAR DONALD,
DID YOU RECEIVE MY INDUCTION PHOTOGRAPH I SENT YOU YESTERDAY, PLEASE I NEED TO COMPLETE THE INDUCTION SO THAT I CAN FULLY BE A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH.
I ALSO WANT YOU TO SEND ME THE FORM I NEED TO SIGN AND RETURN TO YOU. PLEASE FOR THE INTEREST OF THIS TRANSACTION IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU CONCLUDE THIS INDUCTION EXECISE SO THAT BY MONDAY THE CHURCH CAN RELEASE THE $2,500 NEEDED BY THE BANK.
REMEMBER WE HAVE WASTED SO MUCH TIME ALREADY AND WE HAVE LIMITED TIME TO GET THIS TRANSACTION CONCLUDED SO THAT THE BANK CAN TRANSFER YOUR INHERITANCE FUND INTO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT.
PLEASE BROTHER DONALD YOU KNOW YOU ARE MY SPOKES MAN OVER THERE AND THAT THIS $2,500 DEMANED BY THE BANK IS RELEASE DEPENDS ON YOU.
SO I WANT TO TRUST IN YOU THAT THIS MONEY WILL BE RELEASE ON MONDAY SO THAT I CAN SETTLE THE BANK FOR THEM TO SEND TO YOU THE TRANSFER SLIP.
EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM YOU,
REMAIN BLESS,
BAR JUDE JACK
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Now he needs to sign the induction agreement
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Sat, 21 May 2005
Subject: Re: DID YOU RECEIVE MY INDUCTION PHOTOGRAPH
Dear Brother Jude,
I am glad that we are able to complete your induction
procedure very soon so that I can take all the
documents and your induction before the church
finances committee meeting after the Sunday service
tomorrow and will be able to make the case to
authorize the release of additional $2500 for this
cause.
My brother, your induction prodecure is now partially
complete as the photograph has been accepted by the
induction images silo of the church. You have been
added to the church membership database and a
membership number has been generated for you. Your
membership number is mentioned on the member induction
agreement attached in this mail. Your membership will
be activated and you will be able to avail full church
member benefits once you have signed the induction
agreement and completed the induction procedure.
I need you to sign the induction agreement and return
the document to me immediately so that I can present
it to the church finance committee tomorrow.
If I get your signed induction agreement in time, then
I am not expecting any more trouble with the approval
of the additional $2500. So just like the previous
time, we will be sending the payment in the name of
your secretary, Mr. Ogoke Micheal Uche.
I'm looking forward to completing your induction into
the church my brother.
Blessings,
Reverend Donald Trump
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to be continued .....
Now to torment this lad further, there are a few ways I can think of to end this:
1. Dangle western union transfer receipt (he will fill out the security validation form along the way) and try to steal his password again (phishing)
2. Try to get him to send "clearance fees" just like his uncle did to the church clearance department person named A. R. Cross (American Red Cross) ... this might be effort.
3. Kill it with the "Insult the mugu format"
4. Any other ideas??? ... please describe in your response ...
I'm taking your votes on the choices.
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Ultar
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I doubt that's a mag scan... I mean, who would want to print something like that in a magazine? |
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Sun May 22, 2005 12:30 am |
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This lad responds so fast, he's already responded to my mail I sent on a lazy saturday morning (sometime midday pacific time). must be saturday night nigerian time.. he's really working the weekends to make this deal ... I'll try not be be too much of a bad-ass on the 'day of revelations'
Continuation...
... and he did not catch the 419 reference in the church induction agreement number. For some reason most folks here just love dropping a 419 reference at some point or the other in their baits...
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Sat, 21 May 2005
Subject: THE FORM HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND SIGNED
DEAR DONALD,
THANKS FOR YOUR EFFORT, IN MAKING SURE THAT I COMPLETE THE INDUCTION EXECISE.
I HAVE ATTACHED MY COMPLETED FORM WHICH I HAVE SIGN WHERE NECESSARY I DO HOPE EVERYTHING IS CONCLUDED AS YOU SAID TOMORROW BEFORE THE MEETING.
AS FOR THE MONEY YOU ARE TO SEND IT THROUGH MY ASSISTANT SECRETARY MR. (MADUAKA UGOCHUKWU ALEX) AS MY SENIOR SECRETARY IS OUT OF OFFICE ON ONE MONTH LEAVE OVER HIS WIFE THAT GAVE BIRTH TO A BABY BOY LAST WEEK AND HAS SINCE TRAVELLED TO HIS HOME TOWN TO SEE HIS FAMILY.
AS SOON AS YOU SEND THIS MONEY BY MONDAY PLEASE SEND ME THE PAYMENT INFORMATION SO THAT I CAN TAKE THE MONEY AT ONCE TO THE BANK TO SETTLE THE FEE.
EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM YOU,
REMAIN BLESS,
JUDE JACK
Attachment:
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Oh oh..!! The secretary 'I sent the money to the last time' is on vacation?? Too bad it just means your new secretary who will be receiveing $2500 has to fill the western union security validation forms all over again...
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Sat, 21 May 2005
Subject: Re: THE FORM HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND SIGNED
Dear Brother Jude,
Thank you for your very fast response. I have all the
necessary documents to complete your induction by
tommorow. You will receive an official welcome mail
from the church soon. Please send me your complete
mailing address and I shall have some church brochures
and booklets about our faith dispatched to you at the
earliest.
I would now be able to present a very strong case to
approve another $2500 from the church coffers for you
in our meeting tomorrow.
My brother, while Im very happy to hear Mr. Ogoke
Micheal Uche is becoming a parent, I'm concerned that
his being on vacation may cause some security delays
for money transfer at the western union. Now Mr.
Maduaka Alex will have to fill the western union
security forms that Mr. Uche had filled out the last
time when we sent your uncle the money so he was
already authorised to receive money transfer from us.
I'm sure Mr. Uche told you about these security
restrictions by the US Department of Homeland Security
which screens international money transfers.
I have attached the western union security validation
documents again for your secretary Mr Alex to fill and
sign. Please make sure that all the questions are
answered completely and honestly by him as any errors
can cause delays if the transfer is sent for FBI
screening.
I will look forward to hearing from you and I will
keep you informed of the hopeful news from the church
finance committee.
Blessings,
Reverend Donald Trump
Financial Development
Holy Church of the Order of the Red Breast
Attachment:
4 pages of WU security forms with those meaningless questions...
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badbaiter
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My asswipe pet goes along to fill out the security form but is too cheap to send me a courier. he needs some arm twisting...
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Sun, 22 May 2005
Subject: THANKS FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE IN MAKING SURE THAT MY INDUCTION IS COMPLETED
DEAR DONALD,
THANKS FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE IN MAKING SURE THAT MY INDUCTION IS COMPLETED. INDEED YOU ARE A GOOD BROTHER TO ME.
AS FOR THE FILLING OF THE WESTERN UNION FORM BY MY ASSISTANT SECRETARY AM ALREADY AWARE OF THAT I SHALL GET HIM TO FILL IT IN THE OFFICE TOMMOROW SO THAT I CAN SCAN AND SEND IT FOR YOU FOR YOU TO SEND THE MONEY BY TUESDAY.
I WILL ALSO LIKE TO RECIEVE THE BROCHURE YOU TALKED ABOUT.THAT WILL MAKE ME KNOW MORE ABOUT THE CHURH.
HOW DID THE MEETING GO TODAY ?" I HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU CONCERNING THE MEETING.
REMAIN BLESS,
BAR JUDE JACK
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Good brother to you, I have been! For your kind words, I thank you. Big plans for you, I have made. - Yoda.
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Date: Sun, 22 May 2005
Subject: Re: THANKS FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE IN MAKING SURE THAT MY INDUCTION IS COMPLETED
Dear Brother Jude,
I am happy to inform you that the church has
authorised the transfer on additional $2500 for this
cause. The church committee however cautioned that we
cannot send any more funds after this unless we see
atleast some portion of the estate in question being
transferred into our accounts that we have provided
you.
Just like the last time, I'm would be able to collect
a payment voucher at the church finance office
tomorrow morning and complete the bank withdrawal and
prepare the funds for western union transaction in
about 3 business days. Do send me the security
validation forms completed and signed by the funds
recipient so we can have the FBI problem out of the
way when I go to make the transfer.
I'm looking forward to your response my brother.
Blessings,
Reverend Donald Trump
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Date: Mon, 23 May 2005
Subject: EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM YOU
DEAR DONALD,
BLESS YOU, I HAVE ATTACHED THE COPY OF THE WESTERN UNION FORM THAT WAS COMPLETED TODAY BY MY ASSISTANT SECRETARY IN THE OFFICE.
THE FORM WHERE SCAN AND FORWARDED IN TWO TWO FIRST IS PAGES I AND 2 SECOND IS PAGES 3 AND 4. I HOPE THAT I HAVE MET ALL THE REQIREMENT AS YOU DEMANDED.
I WILL BE WAITING TO HEAR FROM YOU WITH THE PAYMENT INFORMATION SO THAT I CAN GO TO THE BANK TO SETTLE THE FEE IN ORDER TO ENABLE THEM SEND YOU THE TRANSFER SLIP.
REMAIN BLESS,
BAR JUDE JACK
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As expected, he takes the pains to print the WU security forms, fill them out and scan them and send them to me by email.... .. half ass scanning job there thoh i let that pass cuz i dont bother opening the files until this posting... and besides i wana get him to spend money on Fedexing the documents.
WU FormPage 1
WU FormPage 2
WU FormPage 3
WU FormPage 4
But noooooo.... i want them by courier.
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Date: Mon, 23 May 2005
Subject: Re: EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM YOU
Dear Brother Jude,
Thanks for the documents but I was expecting you to
send them by courier like the last time. I'm not sure
if you are aware but we tried printed copies of
scanned documents in the last transfer when your uncle
Barrister Wilson did the same. That was not acceptable
for Western Union because the FBI needs original
documents. Governments do not work with documents that
are not originals.
Please print the documents in color and have them
filled out by by Mr. Alex (the person who will be
collecting the payment) and ship it to us by DHL or
Fedex high priority.
I will be heading to the grants department of our
church later today to process the issuance of your
$2500. The recording of paperwork and tax information
computation should get taken care of by tomorrow.
Blessings,
Reverend Donald Trump
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Date: Tue, 24 May 2005
Subject: I WILL SEND THE WESTERN UNION FORM TODAY
DEAR DONALD,
THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL AND EFFORT, I WILL SEND YOU THE WESTERN UNION FORM TODAY THROUGH DHL OR ANY OTHER COURIER SERVICE.
BUT FOR CONFIDENTIAL PURPOSE I PREFER TO SEND IT THROUGH FAX I THEREFORE WISH THAT YOU SEND ME YOUR FAX NUMBER AGAIN SO THAT I CAN FAX IT TODAY.
PLEASE TRY AND SEND THE $2500 TODAY OR TOMORROW MORNING SO THAT I CAN MET UP WITH THE BANK STIPULATED TIME.
EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM YOU,
REMAIN BLESS,
JUDE JACK
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Date: Tue, 24 May 2005
Subject: Re: I WILL SEND THE WESTERN UNION FORM TODAY
Dear Brother Jude,
I have submitted the grant approval documents for tax
recording yesterday. I suppose that will get done
today as the certified accountant who does the
recording and filing for US income tax purposes had
already left for the day when I went to meet him
yesterday. Someone told me his little daughter got
sick and he had to take off early.
Brother, a fax copy of the security validation forms
is not accepted by these government guys. They want
originals and will take copies, if needed, only after
they have the originals. Like all governments, these
people just love to put in red tape and will delay our
transfer if we dont follow their instructions.
I know your uncle is in the hospital and I hope he is
doing better now. I think your other secretary Mr.
Uche knows shipping address. Just in case you can't
find it in your office records, I'm writing it down
again for you. Please ask your secretary Mr. Alex to
send the DHL to Mr. A. R Cross who handles our
mailroom and shipment services. Our shipping address
is:
A. R. Cross
xxxx xxth Avenue
Seattle, WA
USA
Once you have sent the DHL, please send the tracking
number to Mr. Cross so he can schedule to do a
drop-off or arrange a pickup. His email address is:
a_r_c.... at yahoo dot com
Dont worry too much about your bank stipulating the
time either. We have done many grants to
underdeveloped nations in the past and we know from
experience that it is merely the corruption of these
officers that is holding up our transaction. We have
already fulfilled all the documents they needed which
cost us almost $12,000. The bank officials there know
that and that is why they are trying to hold up the
funds transfer by asking for a table tip. What they
are asking for is really corruption money and they
will never refuse it whenever it comes to them.
Just for your information our fax number is
xxx-xxx-xxxx.
Blessings,
Reverend Donald Trump
Financial Development
Holy Church of the Order of the Red Breast
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He does go to courier the documents but when he sees the cost of international shipping he flips out and sends the following mail in bold capitalized letters 5 times. Cheap SOB... i dont think this kid made any money on 419 as yet. Ofcourse, I can always tell him his uncle sent me the courier, why cant he!!
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Date: Tue, 24 May 2005
Subject: PLEASE SEE TO THIS URGENTLY
DEAR DONALD,
THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL. I WAS AT THE DHL OFFICE TODAY AS I TOLD YOU EALIER BUT COULD NOT SEND IT BECAUSE OF THE UNEMAGINABLE CHARGES THEY GAVE ME. FOR GOD SAKE HOW CAN I SEND JUST THAT LITTLE INFORMATION WITH SUCH AN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR JUST $ 2,500. IT IS REPUGNANT TO NATURAL JUSTICE EQUITY AND GOOD CONSCIENCE.
I CANT JUST SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY AT THIS VERY MOMENT CONSIDERING WHAT I HAVE EXPENDED DUE TO MY UNCLES ILLNESS. THE FACT STILL REMAINS THAT I DO NOT HAVE SUCH MONEY NOW . COME TO THINK OF IT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT JUST $2,500 WHICH IS NOT EVEN UP TO WHAT I SPEND ON MY NUMEROIUS TRIPS TO FEDERAL CAPITAL TERRITORY ABUJA JUST TO ENSURE THAT THIS TRANSACTION IT CONCLUDED IN DUE TIME.
I KNOW YOU WANT TO ENSURE THAT YOU DO NOT MAKE MISTAKES BUT I WONDER WHY YOU SHOULD BE DOING THIS AT THIS STAGE OF OUR TRANSACTION, WE HAVE DONE SIMILAR THING BEFORE AND WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY. THEY SHOULD BE TRUST ON EACH OTHER.
IN THE CHURCH I THINK WE SHOULD HELP ONE ANOTHER AND NOT TO MAKE THINGS DIFFICULT FOR BROTHERS.
PLEASE I SUGGEST I SCAN IT IN COLOURS AND SEND TO YOU IN COLOURS OR I SEND IT THROUGH FAX OR POST OFFICE AS I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO RUN ALL THE COST ALONE DUE TO MY UNCLES ILLNESS. I HAVE MY FLIGHT TICKET TO PAY TOMOROW TO ABUJA TO SEE THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AS REGARDS THIS TRASFER.
PLEASE SEE TO THIS URGENTLY
BAR JUDE JACK
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Date: Tue, 24 May 2005
Subject: Re: PLEASE SEE TO THIS URGENTLY
Dear Brother Jude,
I'm not sure of what fuss is all about and I frankly I
dont quite understand why you are complaining about
cost. How much are they charging you for the courier?
Your uncle sent us the documents by DHL just a little
while ago after which we were able to send him the
$12000! I'm not sure if he thought of it as expensive.
Frankly, I'm very surprised you are saying this when
you run a big office with employing two secretaries.
Maybe, we should wait until your uncle Barrister
Wilson gets well and then we deal with him.
We use Fedex send international priority documents
quite often. And the shipping cost to countries like
Indonesia was about $60 + tax.
We have the copy of Mr. Uche's Western Union security
validation forms. So if you dont want to send us the
documents as required by the FBI, then we can wait
until Mr. Uche returns from vacation and send the
$2500 in his name when he is back and is able to go
and collect it. Do let me know if that would be
alright.
Or you can send us the documents by DHL and tell us
what it cost you, we will reimburse you the cost of
the courier and send that money to you in addition to
the $2500.
Blessings,
Reverend Donald Trump
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005
Subject: , I CLEALY UNDERSTOOD YOU
DEAR DONALD,
THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL, I CLEALY UNDERSTOOD YOU AND I WILL DO EXACTLY AS YOU TOLD ME. I WILL SEND THE WESTERN UNION FORM THROUGH DHL OR ANY OTHER COURIER SERVICES TOMORROW AND I WILL ALSO FIND OUT FROM THEM HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO GET TO YOU.
WE CAN NOT WAIT UNTIL MY SENIOR SECRETARY GET BACK FROM VACATION BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET THIS TRANSACTION CONCLUDED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND FOR MY SECRETARY I LEANT HIS WIFE IS NOT FEELING FINE AND I DO NOT KNOW WHEN HE WILL COME FROM HIS TRIP.
SORRY THE WAY I SOUNDED IS JUST THAT I HAVE PUT IN A LOT IN THIS TRANSACTION ALREADY BOTH FINANCIALLY AND MATERIALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONCLUDE THIS TRANSACTION AND GET THE FUND TRANSFERED INTO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT.
THANKS FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING,
REMAIN BLESS,
JUDE JACK
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He agrees to send the courier but then finds out that he could use any fake name at the western union. So he asks me to use the forms sent earlier and send the money to that name. Darn... I shouldnt have given him options... but guess what! the forms have been shredded - data protection policy mandated by the Feds.
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005
Subject: THIS IS VERY URGENT AND IMPORTANT
DEAR DONALD,
I HAVE A GOOD NEWS FOR YOU, MY SENIOR SECRETARY JUST CALLED ME NOW TO INFORM ME THAT EVERYTHING IS NOW OKAY WITH THE WIFE AND THE NEW BORN BABY.
AS A RESULT OF THIS HE WILL BE RESUMING HIS DUTY TOMORROW AS HE WILL BE COMING BACK TODAY.
I AM VERY HAPPY ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE THE WHOLE THING EASY AND I WILL NOT NEED TO SEND THE WESTERN UNION FORM AGAIN.
YOU CAN NOW MAKE THE PAYMENT IN THE FAVOUR OF MR. (OGOKE MICHEAL UCHE) AS HE WILL BE AVAILABLE FROM TOMORROW TO COLLECT IT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS TRANSACTION.
THE TRANSFER SLIP WILL BE SENT TO YOU BEFORE THE END OF THIS WEEK IF WE CAN GET THIS MONEY BY TOMORROW
AS SOON AS YOU MAKE THE PAYMENT WRITE ME A MAIL TO INFORM ME IMMEDIATELY WITH THE PAYMENT INFORMATION SO THAT I CAN GO TO THE BANK AT ONCE TO SETTLE THE FEE.
EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM YOU,
REMAIN BLESS
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I think it's time for me to go to the hospital for some time and let A R Cross take over the transaction details... He sends a couple of more mails .. worried that I've not responded. So enter A.R Cross
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From: A. R. Cross (me again)
To: Wilson Jack (my pet - Jude/Wilson Jack)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005
Subject: Ref: Mr. Jude Jack / Member# 17341934
Dear Mr. Jude Jack,
Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is A. R.
Cross and I am an operations manager at the Holy
Church of the Order of the Red Breast.
I am corresponding with you at the request of Reverend
Donald Trump. He has forwaded me your mail enclosed
herein. It is to my understanding that you are in
engagement with Reverend Donald Trump because you wish
to donate a portion of certain estates held with a
bank in Nigeria to this Holy Church. I admire and
thank you for your generosity. It is because of great
people like yourself that we are able to help our
communities better.
Our records show that you have been credited with a
grant of $14,470 towards sundry expenses necessary in
order to complete the transaction. Our records
indicate that $11,970 of this grant has been paid out
to you and there is a $2500 pending payment.
I have been requested by Reverend Trump to facilitate
the transfer of the remaining balance to you. I am
looking forward to your affirmative response on this
subject matter.
Sincerely,
A R Cross
Operations Manager
Holy Church of the Order of the Red Breast
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Date: Sat, 28 May 2005
Subject: THANKS FOR YOUR INFORMATION
DEAR BROTHER,
THANKS FOR YOUR INFORMATION AND CANDID ASSISTANCE. I AM SURE REV. DONALD HAS GIVEN YOU THE DETAILS OF THIS TRANSACTION.
HOWEVER, I AM WAITING TO RECEIVE THE $2,500 WHICH OUGHT HAVE BEEN SENT BEFORE NOW FOR THE BANK TO CONCLUDE ARRANGEMENT TO SEND THE TRANSFER SLIP TO REV. DONALD.
PLEASE AS SOON AS YOU MAKE THE PAYMENT GET ME INFORM SO THAT THIS TRANSACTION WILL BE CONCLUDED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND THE FUND TRANSFERED INTO THE CHURCH.
EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM YOU.
REMAIN BLESS,
JUDE JACK
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OK now try to get him to send a fedex to American Red Cross address.. and see if he'd be open to the idea of putting in a small donation of $20 for the childrens fund.
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Date: Sat, 28 May 2005
Subject: Re: THANKS FOR YOUR INFORMATION
Dear Mr Jude Jack,
Reverend Donald Trump forwarded me your mail so that I
can get in touch with you. He mentioned that you were
planning to courier me the western union security
validation forms filled out and signed by the
recepient.
I would also require a copy of the passport of the
recipient of the payment in addition to the completed
forms.
I would be able to make a western union transfer of
the said amount in the name of the recipient within
two business days of receiving the requested
documents. Please provide me with the tracking number
of the shipment so I can have the courier company
schedule a drop off convenient to my office timnigs.
Incase you do not have our shipping address, it is:
A. R. Cross
xxxx xxth Avenue
Seattle, WA USA
I have one more request for you and you do not have to
oblige. We are collecting (non-church related) small
donations of $5, $10 and $20 from members towards a
non-profit organisition called United Way King County
that helps shelter the homeless children. If you are
feeling generous about it, please feel free to put in
a donation of any amount your are comfortable with in
your courier along with the documents. The dontaion
will also help me ensure that we perform a speedy
transfer of your money for you.
The Reverend has also asked me to inform you that he
will be in touch with you once he is released from the
hospital.
I'm looking forward to your response.
Regards,
A R Cross
Operations Manager
Holy Church of the Order of the Red Breast
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Date: Sun, 29 May 2005
Subject: HAPPY SUNDAY
DEAR BROTHER CROSS,
THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL. YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT WHAT REV. DONALD TOLD YOU. BUT I ALREADY ASK HIM TO PAY THE MONEY IN FAVOUR OF MY SENOIR SECRETARY WHO RETURNED TO OFFICE LAST WEEK AFTER A ONE MONTH LEAVE.
HIS WESTERN UNION INFORMATION IS ALREADY WITH YOU OR WHOEVER MADE THE PRVOIUS PAYMENT.SO AM NO LONGER SENDING THE WERSTERN UNION INFORMATION OF MY ASSISTANT SECRETARY SINCE MY SENIOR SECRETARY WHO RECIEVED THE FIRST MONEY IS ON SIT NOW. AND I HAVE WRITTEN REV. DONALD TO INFORM HIM ABOUT THIS.
SO I EXPECT TO RECIEVE THE MONEY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. HIS NAME ONCE AGAIN IN CASE YOU FORGOT IS ( MR.OGOKE MICHEAL UCHE) .
PLEASE SEND MY SINCERE GREETING TO REV. DONALD. AND I WILL ARRANGE ANOTHER MEANS OF MAKING MY DONATION BECAUSE I LIKE SUCH CHARITY WORK.
ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU .
BAR. JUDE JACK
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Date: Sun, 29 May 2005
Subject: Re: HAPPY SUNDAY
Dear Mr. Jude Jack,
Thankyou for your mail. I do recall arranging a
western union payment for Mr. Michael Uche.
Unfortunately we do not have his security validation
documents anymore.
We did not know that we would need to execute another
money transfer and so according to the church data
confidentiality and identity protection policy
mandated by the Federal laws, we had the relevant
documents that Mr. Uche had sent us shredded and
destroyed after 15 days.
Please ask Mr. Uche to send the security validation
forms once again. I'm looking forward to hearing from
you. I am sure I dont have to remind you that the
small donation will help accelerate the process on my
side since I am currently swamped with atleast upto
four weeks of work that needs my immediate attention.
Sincerely,
A R Cross
Operations Manager
Holy Church of the Order of the Red Breast
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Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005
Subject: HANKS FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND EFFORT
DEAR BROTHER,
PLEASE GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE PAYMENT WITH THE NAME YOU MADE THE FIRST PAYMENT (MY SECRETARY). SENDING YOU A COURIER IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY REMEMBER WE HAVE LIMITED TIME TO CONCLUDE THIS TRANSACTION.
I HAVE ALREADY SENT TO YOU THIS FORM YOU ARE REQUESTING FOR BEFORE THE FIRST PAYMENT WAS MADE AND WITH THE WESTERN UNION REQUIREMENT WHICH I AM AWARE OF SENDING IT THE SECOND TIME IS UNCALLED FOR SINCE THE RECEIVER HAS RECEIVED MONEY FROM YOU BEFORE.
THANKS FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND EFFORT,
REMAIN BLESS,
BAR JUDE JACK
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Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005
Subject: Re: HANKS FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND EFFORT
Dear Mr. Jude Jack,
I know you had sent us the form the first time we sent
you the payment. But we did not know that further
payments would be required at that time so we
destroyed the forms in accordance to the federal
regulations for identity theft protection.
If you had told us earlier that future payments would
be needed, we would have kept those forms. So you will
need to send us the forms again. Otherwise the
department of homeland security will not approve the
transfer. I dont make these rules, the government does
in order to prevent people from funding international
terrorists.
I cannot send you anything unless I have the security
validation forms.
Sincerely,
A R Cross
Operations Manager
Holy Church of the Order of the Red Breast
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005
Subject: CONSIDER THIS MAIL
DEAR BROTHER,
THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL, I WILL LIKE TO HAVE YOUR FAX NUMBER SO THAT I CAN SEND YOU THE WESTERN UNION FORM THROUGH FAX.
I SUGGEST THAT THROUGH FAX WILL BE THE FASTER WAY TO SEND YOU THE FORM YOU KNOW WE HAVE A LIMITED TIME TO COMMENCE AND CONCLUDE THIS TRANSACTION AND WE MUST DO ALL WE CAN TO MEET UP WITH THE DEAD LINE.
SENDING YOU THE WESTERN UNION FORM THROUGH DHL OR ANY OTHER COURIER SERVICE AS YOU TOLD ME, IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO GET TO YOU WHICH IS NOT FAVOURABLE ON MY SIDE HERE.
PLEASE GET BACK TO ME WITH YOUR FAX NUMBER SO THAT I CAN FAX THE FORM TODAY. EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM YOU.
REMAIN BLESS,
JUDE JACK
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Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005
Subject: Re: CONSIDER THIS MAIL
Dear Mr. Jude Jack,
We were at the hospital to pay a visit the the good
Reverend and he was inquiring about the status of our
transaction. I did mention to him you were reluctant
to send us the security forms without which we cannot
go forward.
Reverend Trump has requested me to find out how your
uncle is doing now. I understand that your uncle was
hospitalized and was receiving treatment. He mentioned
that he will try to get in touch directly with your
uncle regarding this transfer once he is out of
surgery and the doctors have discharged him.
We would like to take matters forward with your uncle
directly if and when he becomes available. As of today
the Reverend has instructed me not to work with you
anymore.
Have a good day.
Sincerely,
A R Cross
Operations Manager
Holy Church of the Order of the Red Breast
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Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005
Subject: DEAR BROTHER
DEAR BROTHER,
I RECEIVED YOUR MAIL AND I QUITE UNDERSTAND THE CONTENT. PERSONALY I WOULD HAVE LOVE MY UNCLE TO HANDLE THIS TRANSACTION AT THIS STAGE EXPECTIALLY FOR FINANCIAL ASPECT BECAUSE I AM SPENDING ALOT OF MONEY OVER HERE TO GET THINGS DONE AT THE RIGHT TIME AND IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
I PAY MY FLIGHT TICKET EACH TIME I HAVE AN APPIONTMENT WITH THE TOP BANK OFFICIALS CONCERNED WITH THIS TRANSACTION.
FROM THE DOCTOR"S REPORT OF MY UNCLE SITUATION HE WILL HAVE TO BE ON REST FOR SOME TIME SINCE HIS ILLNESS AFFECTED HIS MEMORY.
PRESENTLY HE IS HAVING A MEMORY LOSS AND HAS HANDED OVER ALL OUR OFFICE TRANSACTION TO ME PENDING WHEN HE RECORVERS.
BUT IF YOU INSIST ON WAITING FOR HIM FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS WELL IS OK BY ME.
ONCE AGAIN THANKS FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE.
REMAIN BLESS,
BAR JUDE JACK
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This SOB is not gonna spend money on a courier. Time to try some guy speak... bring in the "hacker" who was pretending to be his uncle and the guyman to whom I apparently paid $12,000. Atleast I get to insult him for starters without blowing the cover yet!!!
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Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005
Subject: Re: DEAR BROTHER
Dear Mr. Jude Jack,
To call a spade a spade, the good Reverend does not
think you are capable of handling this transaction.
As for your uncle, the Reverend has already spoken to
him and he definitely sounds like a well-read
high-calibre lawyer. In his opinion, your uncle is a
serious person who is aware of the issues and
understood the gravity of the situation with the
western union money transfer restrictions here in the
United States. That is the reason he sent him the
$11,970 to enable the transfer.
Unlike you, your uncle never hesitated or acted petty
about something as small as courier costs. The
Reverend seems to believe you may be a low level
employee in your uncle's office and frankly he is very
suspicious about your intentions and so he asked me
not to send the money to you. In any case, I am unable
send the money unless you courier me the forms. I will
wait another week and return the $2500 to the church
finances section.
Have a good day.
Sincerely,
A R Cross
Operations Manager
Holy Church of the Order of the Red Breast
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The senior guyman (and hacker) from London who "stole" my lad's "maga" makes an entrance.. all big and bad with the mouth of a trucker.
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From: Wilson Jack (hacker and bait hijacker - which is me)
To: Wilson Jack (original scammer - my pet)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005
Subject: I TAKE $2500 MORE YOU STUPED FOOL
HOW YOU DEY DOING BOY. YOU BE CONVINCED THE MUGU
REVEREND TRUMP TO PAY $2500 MORE NOW I TAKES $2500 AND
YOU WATCH MUMOOO. THE MAGA ALREADY PAY ME $12000 NOW I
MAKE MORE THANKS YOUR HARD WORK.
BUT YOU BE BIG FOOL. EVEN A LINE OF CORRECT ENGLISH
YOU NO FIT WRITE. WHO DEY TEACH YOU 419 SEF? YOU
BETTER GO BACK TO ARMED ROBBERY WAY YOU SABI
DO.LOSERRRRRRR HAHAHAHA
I TAKE MONIES AND I INFORM MAGA YOU A SCAMER YOU
WATCH.
NNA GI NA ARA MKPURU AMU. YOU MUMU PASS YOURSELF.ODE
BURUKU,OLOSHE,OLORIBU,IYALAYAEH,AMU NNAGI,IGBU
NNEGI,FOOL LIKE YOU.
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No response for a couple of days... was that too much?? Perhaps hurt my lad's feelings... the senior guy really wants a new contact in Lagos.
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From: Wilson Jack (hacker and bait hijacker - which is me)
To: Wilson Jack (original scammer - my pet)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005
Subject: work for me
ok guy i send you dey strong email and insult to see
your patience. lookere i not mean anything with that.
your english not that bad but you still a low level
guy.
i am guyman based in london and if you want to work
together then we share the 2500 from that maga
reverend donald. i need you to do some work for that
as i lose my nigeria contact few days ago.
you agree then let me know. if you do well i give you
better job. get back to me.
samuel
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My pet responds and he's not very happy with the bait hijack!! And doesnt like the insults either... ..
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From: Wilson Jack (original scammer - my pet)
To: Wilson Jack (hacker and bait hijacker - which is me)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005
Subject: GREADY MEN DONT LAST IN GUY
HELLO SAMUEL.
NO BE SO OOO. WHY YOU THINK SAY I BE JUNIOR GUYMAN. THE MAGA NA MY MAGA . I CATCH AM BEFORE U BUT HIM WAN BLEND ME FOR HIM SOCIETY. I COME GIVE AM BREAK BEFORE YOU THROUGH AM JOB.
YOU REMEMBER SAY HIM TELL YOU ABOUT ME WHEN YOU TELL AM SAY U BE MY UNCLE.
HIM TELL ME SAY HIM DONE PAY 11970 THE FIRST TIME BEFORE I GIVE MY OWN BILL. I NO EVEN SPOIL YOUR JOB. BUT SINCE YOU DEY YAB ME NOW I GO SPOIL LAM FROM YOU.
I GO GIVEN ALL YOU NAME TO HIM GIVE ME . YOU NO THAT MUGU NA SOCIETY MAN.
WELL I AM SENIOR GUY MAN FROM IBUSA DELTA STATE. IF I WANT TO DEAL WITH YOU I WILL FINISH YOU WITH THE NAME YOU PULLED THE MONEY WITH( UCHE) .
I WORK WITH JUDE OKOMA FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
GREADY FOOL LIKE YOU.
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Let's throw him a challenge and see if he does it for pride.
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From: Wilson Jack (hacker and bait hijacker - which is me)
To: Wilson Jack (original scammer - my pet)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005
Subject: Re: GREADY MEN DONT LAST IN GUY
LISTEN BOY DONT YOU GO BE BIG FOOL NOW. I AM SMARTEAR
AND I HACK INTO NOT ONLY BE WHAT WAS YOUR ACCOUNT I
ALSO HACK INTO REVEREND TRUMP EMAIL.
THAT MAGA IS WITH A VERY WEALTHY CHURCH I SEE THEM
WITH MAILS DONATING $2.3 MILLION TO TSUNAMI RELIEF IN
INDONESIA IN JANUARY.
THIS IS CHOSEN BE OUR BUSINESS AND YOU SEE I GOOD AT
IT BECAUSE I ASK HIM FOR $12000 AND GET IT SO EASY.
NOW THE MAGA IS SUSPICIOUS BECAUSE YOU ACT SO CHEAP
ASKING FOR JUST 2500 AND NOT SENDING HIM COURIER FOR
TRANSFER. I WOULD TAKE THAT 2500 TOO BUT MY RELIABLE
PERSON (UCHE) WHO SENT COURIER LAST TIME AND COLLECT
THE 11970 NOW COME TO LONDON HERE TO WORK WITH ME HERE
IN LONDON. TRAVEL TO NIGERIA JUST TO SEND COURIER AND
GET 2500 IS WASTE OF MONEY AND TIME FOR JUST 2500 LOOK
AT COST OF LAST MINUTE FLIGHT TICKET TO LAGOS. NOT
WORTH 2500.
I NO CARE LESS ABOUT PIDLY 2500 I REALLY LOOK FOR
ANOTHER CONTACT IN LAGOS TO RUN THIS BUSINESS. YOU NOT
TOO BAD AT THIS BUT I NEED SEE YOUR SKILLS FIRST
BEFORE I DECIDE I GIVE YOU GOOD JOBS. WHY I THINK YOU
FOOL IS YOU GO SPEND TIME AND MONEY TO GET CHURCH
INDUCTION AND YOU NO GO WALK LAST MILE FOR GETTING
THAT 2500.
YOU BE INTERESTED THEN YOU GET THAT 2500 AND PROVE TO
ME YOU GOOD ENOUGH TO WORK FOR ME ELSE YOU GO BACK TO
YOUR OLD JOB CARRY LUGGAGE FOR WESTERN TOURISTS AND
SIT IN CYBERCAFE AND WASTE TIME GET NOTHING IN HAND.
YOU GO SHOW ME WHAT YOU BE AND YOU ARE YOUR FATHER'S
SON THEN YOU WORK FOR ME.
STUPED FOOL.
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And give him another way in.... A. R. Cross is still wondering when he will get the courier so he can transfer the money.
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From: A. R. Cross (me again)
To: Wilson Jack (my pet - Jude/Wilson Jack)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005
Dear Mr. Jude Jack,
We received one email from your uncle Barrister Wilson
Jack and have not heard from him again for almost a
week now.
I hope that everything is alright with him. We are
awaiting the courier of the western union security
validation forms to complete the transfer of the
$2500.
If we do not hear from him by next week, then I will
have to return the funds back to the church exchequer
and withdrawal of these funds again after that will
not be possible until another committee review. There
is a high probability that the committee will vote to
close this matter and write off the $11970 that we
have already sent to your uncle as a busniess loss. If
that happens we will never hold any further
transactions with him or you.
It is my duty to inform you about this.
Sincerely,
A R Cross
Operations Manager
Holy Church of The Order of the Red Breast
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... will he respond?!! or has he had enough and bitten the dust??.... after all this has been going on for over three months now.
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