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 Marking emails as "not spam" on Gmail

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi guys!

I have recently started using Gmail for my baiting account. A lot of the scam email I receive obiously ends in the spam folder. Now when I want to move it to my inbox, I need to mark it as "not spam".

This leaves me wondering: by doing this, am I telling Google that they incorrectly identified it as a scam? Will this decrease the chance that the next emails from the same scammer to other people will be classified as spam?

I don't want to mess with the Gmail's algorithm which is otherwise really good and this way I could make it less efficient, putting real victims in danger.

This is quite an important thing as I can see that a lot of fellow baiters use Gmail and we might be doing more harm than good!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I do not know the answer to this for certain, but I think when you mark a message as "not spam" google changes your preferences, not theirs. It simply puts the sender's email among your "trusted senders". Marking a message as spam may tag it for consideration in a black list, but I do not believe it works in reverse.

Also, the reason a message is marked as spam to begin with has less to do with content than one might think. Top reasons for getting marked in the system as spam are things like spoofed-addresses, email from addresses you youself marked as spam, mass emails with tons of people on bbc, email from known spamming domains. Among the content related reasons are phishing email with obvious password-getting features where your marking them one way or another wouldn't change their rank.

Bottom line, I think it's perfectly fine to change your catcher-email preferences to let scam notes in, or just check your spam folder often.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks, I remember seeing something along the lines of: This email was marked by many other people as spam, therefore it is in your spam folder.

...on Gmail, so unless they changed the policy since then, it still works that way.

Anyway, even if we were wrong and Gmail actually uses the "not spam" reports too, the number of baiters is too low compared to the number of people who get the scam email and move it to spam immediately that it probably doesn't make much difference.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Why is this message in Spam? It's similar to messages that were detected by our spam filters.


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Be careful with this message. This message may not have been sent by: <snip>. Similar messages were used to steal people's personal information.


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Be careful with this message. Similar messages were used to steal people's personal information. Unless you trust the sender, don't click links or reply with personal information.


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Be careful with this message. Many people marked similar messages as phishing scams, so this might contain unsafe content.


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Be careful with this message. Many people marked similar messages as spam


Those are from my Spam folder, maybe clicking Not Spam does do something, but I'm guessing it would have to be a lot more than one person.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Those are all examples where marking a message as spam blacklists it.

My reply was about whitelisting, which I don't believe works the same way.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Easy solution. Leave it in the spam folder of your catcher account. Send a message to the email addy from your baiting account.

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It's why I use an email client. I can open an email from a catcher and switch between one of my many characters for replies. All without needing to copy or paste.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

For my baiting stories, I use Yahoo mail (web application):

You can move any messages from the Spam folder to the Inbox folder ...
- this means only that you want to handle that message.
- you do not change the way that the message was originally perceived (as "spam").
- any other message from the same sender will remain marked as spam.

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If you want to permanent change the status of a one message (as "this is not a spam message"), you have a dedicated marker.
- all messages from that sender will go directly to your Inbox folder.

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