Is it possible to make the lads gamble away all their money

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Master Baiter Joined: 11 Jul 2011 Posts: 229

I got an idea that could make the lads lose all their money in minutes

Like for example if you convince a lad that he could earn this or this amount of money (He will earn more than what he invests) if he invests all his money in a casino and he has to lose all even if he wins. He can then also borrow money from other lads and experience how it is to lose money that you can never get back. Almost the same way as they do to victims.

This of course will need a hooked lad and possibly a little help with gambling addiction

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:21 pm

Does Nigeria have casinos?

The idea seems tough to execute. Even with the most absurd idea as, there has to be a (seemingly) realistic end in sight. Otherwise, the lads wouldn't risk their money. That carrot has to be realistic and make sense to them.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:25 pm

I would suggest indicating that you have some sort of sway in an event and giving the impression that it is fixed and then telling the lad to bet all his money.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:41 pm

I think the only thing that would happen is that the lad would find more victims to recoup his losses or to support his gambling addiction. And the original money he's gambling with is a victim's.

The casino's would be the ones benefitting.

Besides, I can't imagine a lad gambling that kind of money unless he was really had a lot of money. I can't see internet cafe lads doing it.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:43 pm

This is my opinion on anything you do in baiting. It has to be real enough to make the lad want to do whatever you're asking. What is the reasonable possibility that you have sway at a casino from 10,000 miles away? I realize that seems like a bit of a double standard when it comes to things like the TWAT church and some of the other ridiculous modalities. But the reality is, some lads truly believe that these churches in America have loads of money. And they are just willing to give it away to whomever. So lad is likely to accept whatever you feed him with that mentality. Put yourself in the lads stinky shoes. Would you be inclined to believe that someone is able to have control over a casino?

When getting these guys to complete any task you have to be realistic about what they are willing to except as truth. Some glad you're dumber than others. I have had some lads do some ridiculous things. But the underlying premise of why they were getting money was always sound. I don't feel like this is a sound premise.

I don't say that discourage you from trying. Or to say that it's just impossible idea. I have just been a lot of lads and I know their boundaries. I can't imagine even my dumbest lad going for this. It doesn't meet the risk versus reward test. They are unlikely to accept your ability to pull this off unless you have one heck of a back story.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:45 pm

dwatina wrote:

I think the only thing that would happen is that the lad would find more victims to recoup his losses or to support his gambling addiction. And the original money he's gambling with is a victim's.

The casino's would be the ones benefitting.

Besides, I can't imagine a lad gambling that kind of money unless he was really had a lot of money. I can't see internet cafe lads doing it.

I am all about lad spending their money. If they have the money it doesn't really matter if it's a victims or not. At that point it's in their pocket so I would rather than wasted on stupid Internet goose chases rather than clothes and useful stuff.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:16 pm

^^I agree. And I would hope they were borrowing money from their scamming associates. I just wouldn't want them getting more money from additional victims.

Trophy Videos · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:42 pm

jojo is right. First, the story has to make sense.
WIMP is probably as far as you can go in that direction you want to go, using an inside guy to mess up the lad. But even WIMP can be a hard sell, and many lads need to be offered the chance to WIMP-out before you find the right guy.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:43 pm

What's WIMP?

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:58 pm

^ Modality by BRUIN.

TL;DR version is
"Every year thousands of small to medium payments to West Africa (or wherever your lad is) are not picked up. Those MTCNs stay in the database. I need a scammer in West Africa to pick those up for me. You will collect it, take your 50% share and send the rest back to me. Nobody will miss this money, it's been there for years - it doesnt even show in the online tracker anymore!"

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:01 pm

I always did like that Bruin guy. Top notch baiter.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:14 pm

I've been pulling the wool over the fake check guys by having the checks sent to drop boxes. While the checks are enroute I dangle cash by telling the lad about all the money I have been making from insider information about the stock market. Its great having a shady boyfriend.

I send photos of the boats we have purchased along with the luxury cars and homes. Once I feel he is paying attention and reading my script I teach the lad about margins.

http://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/nn/articles/Margin-How-Does-It-Work

At that point I send him daily accounts of the tens of thousands of dollars I have been making. I then tell the scammer that I have invested the proceeds of the check and instead of sending him his 10% have invested it in a sure thing like Amazon stock on a margin.

http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=AMZN

By picking out the winners for the day I can report to the lad that I have doubled the amount in the check. After a few days his $3,200 USD is worth $17,800. After a few more days his funds become commingled with mine and its hard to tell how much of the $580,000 USD is actually his. Doe he still want the 10 percent, which is $320 or does he want me to invest some of his money into stocks.

I guess the next logical step would be to have him invest his own $320 at his own brokerage or on-line. That would be a gamble. My only concern would be if he actually made any money. I would really hate that.

I would rather see the lad gamble with his time and resources by sending a trophy to a baiter or gamble on a safari in an attempt at a huge payday.

I love it when I tell them that all of their money has been used for bribes, new and faster cars, boats, airplanes, drugs, alcohol, Viagra and boy toys but if he will send another of those great checks I know I can triple his investment in only three days.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 26 Jul 2015 Posts: 10

For real.I am a poker player.I can act like a child but come up as a monster.
If i have to play against an average player i can assure you my changes are 80%

There´s not much i can do on this forum.But poker is my game.With support on the edge the percentage will be even 90%

Let me know.I´m more than happy to meet some gamble lads.

Pm me if interrested.Otherwise don´t
Cool

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:36 am

^^^
Iff your pokergame is as good as you say then you would be a great baiter.Baiting is poker with people so go ahead.

Gambling is not really a nigerian thing but i could make this work .I have an evil idea that could damage some off them really bad.I never tought about it before this topic came up but i do have way's to convince lads to play but that would or cashbaiting or the casino that benefit.We do have a little rule that say no to cashbaiting one of the reasons i am still around.See money flow to an ITP(casino)would be also stupid.

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:11 am

Also if the gambling is on-line, there's a high probability that the lad would use a stolen credit card. That would injure an ITP as well. Might be a good idea to pass on this one.

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:30 pm

JJB -- Thanks for the praise!! I appreciate it.

The idea of WIMP is that you are a Western Union insider who has access to all sorts of old and abandoned ("orphan") MTCN's, == thousands of them. It would look suspicious if someone in your position went to Africa and then all these MTCNS started getting picked up - that's why you need an outsider.

Unfortunately, your character is in charge of collection modalities for WU for only 8 countries in Africa -- alas, the mugu never seems to be in one of the countries where you are in charge. He will have to travel. The only person who you trust is "Simon", a WU employee in Accra, Ghana (or whereever). The mugu MUST go to Accra before you will reactivate the dormant orphan MTCN's.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 20 Nov 2013 Posts: 4

The thought of a casino-based bait got me thinking. I haven't thought this through, so just brainstorming here but what about a fake online casino? The baiter convinces the lad he has control of a seemingly random casino betting game.

Maybe the baiter even provides the lad with "house" money in an account on the casino site to bet and see for himself that the baiter has the game rigged and can make it go in the lad's favor.

Of course, this "house" money is for promotional purposes only and cannot be directly withdrawn by the scammer, only bet online at the casino to produce winnings that can be withdrawn. One can see how the lad could rack up huge winnings very quickly in his online casino account. Unfortunately, problems may occur when the lad wants to withdraw his ill-gotten gains (surprise, surprise).

Seems like it could be an interesting modality that could be used to deliver

- Lad info during required site registration.
- Piggies used in withdrawal attempts.
- Trophies galore as the lad must verify himself to casino security.
- Safaris as the lad seeks to travel to the casino's nearest affiliated casino partner.
- Tracking lad whereabouts via IP would be easy via the site itself.
- Communications could even be via private messages on the site.
- Many opportunities for chopping and alt characters, ranging from casino security, management, regulatory authorities and, of course, da mob who really runs things (straight out of GoodFellas).

ITPs would be kept out of the unindexed site because registration would only work with the credentials supplied to the lad by the baiter.

It seems like this might be quite a strong hook because the lad will see the money, (nay, HIS money) accumulate before his very eyes, building a powerful pavlovian response as only casinos can.

The only challenge of course, is that this would all require a bit of HTML coding.

Edited to add: Another thought, our thieving online casino insider (maybe a code developer) needs the lad because the insider can only personally withdraw a limited amount of money a day without raising suspicion. However, when the lazy lad won't move his arse, our insider starts withdrawing the limit from the lad's account every day. One can imagine the delicious "automated account withdrawal notifications" coming to the lad every day reminding him how much he's losing by not moving!

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:03 am

^^^
Not a bad idea but i geuss that would be a huge effort..It would be great to pay the fees the lads want direct in the gamble account...Player to player transfer to avoid problems with authorities..basicly a safe way to fly under the radar.This way no ITP get involved.I like your idea.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 20 Nov 2013 Posts: 4

> "It would be great to pay the fees the lads want direct in the gamle account...Player to player transfer to avoid problems with authorities"

That's a lovely idea! Another way to "play" at the Casino Du Lad that doesn't even involve a rigged game. Just that the lad's 'victim' doesn't have funds themselves to pay the lad's advance fee request but has access to their drunkard husbands (or father's) casino account with lots of money. The victim can't transfer it to themselves (online gambling is illegal here!) but can transfer it to a new account created in the name of the lad.

Now the lad just needs to collect it. Nice idea!

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 4:05 pm

My concern with this idea, Markran, is that you are opening up many legal cans of worms...

- Collecting a lad's ID and passwords could be seen as phishing.
- Asking users to provide their financial/bank account information for withdrawals would not be looked on kindly by LEO. (Do *you* want to explain the differences between scammers and ITPs to a court of law?)
- A lot of website hosters don't want anything to do with online gambling, and setting up online casinos is illegal in many jurisdictions.

Then, from a baiting standpoint, this seems like an awful lot of work to do just to give a lad a hard time. Do lads even gamble, or would they see that time being better spent by running more scams? If you want to safari a lad, why don't you just offer to make a donation to him while you're traveling to his region and all he needs to do is meet you in a neighboring country?

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:09 pm

Hi Markran,

Welcome to Eater. The LoneHaranger makes some good points about why this isn't a good idea. First, it's too close to cash baiting which we don't do and don't discuss. Second, international law regarding on-line casinos is complex and LE keeps a pretty good eye on those operating in their jurisdiction's domain. You don't want to have to explain this to your hoster either.

Also, there's no good way to filter out ITPs-and this is a huge concern. How do you know that everyone who signs up is a lad?

There are a lot of other fun modlities around or some that you can invent without these problems.

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