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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:13 pm

Hi girls and guys,

since I had to stop my first bait for known reasons, I figured I publish another lad that I am bating right now.

My character is the same, Volker L. from Berlin, Germany, retired business owner and a quite busy man. Looking forward to your input:

Baiter = blue
Lad = red

His initial standard email:

Quote:

My name is Mr Lad. I have a business proposal for you. Please

reply to this message if you are interested in knowing more.

Best Regards

Mr. Lad

Of course Volker is very interested and replies:

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Lad-San,

this is Volker from Germany. I am interested in what you have to offer, please tell me more.

Looking forward to your reply.

Best regards

Volker L

As a thanks he gets his first proposal-copy-paster-letter from the lad:

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From: Mr Lad
Deputy President
Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd, Osaka,Japan

My Dear Friend,

Thanks for your email response, I am Mr. Lad, The Deputy President of The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd, Osaka,Japan. I handle all our Investor's Direct Capital Funds and make over 1.2% Excess Maximum Return Capital Profit (EMRCP) per annum on each of the Investor's Capital Funds. As an expert, I have made over $16.2M from Investor's EMRCP and hereby looking for someone to trust who will stand as an Investor to receive the funds as Investment Proceeds.

Brief history of the money : I have more than 158 Corporate Investors attached to my portfolio whose Capital Investment money are being managed and administered by me. This Capital Investment money has a value of over US$922M. The US$922M is been used for trading in Stock Market, Crude Oil and Lending with Profit Returns. Every quarter of the year, each corporate investor is expected to receive interest from his total Investment Capital money. However, I make an excess of 1.2% from the Investor's Investment Capital Funds annually which have exceeded our targeted 20% of Total Investment Capital Funds.

This extra of 1.2% from the 21.2% is been retained by me as my personal profits for managing the Capital Investment. However, I cannot claim these money without presenting someone to stand as an Investor otherwise our establishment will convert the funds into the company's treasury. This is why I have come to you for the deal to take place.

Procedure: I will open a file in your Name as an investor/Contractor with some documents to be backdated to qualify you as our Investor/Contractor so as to claim the US$16.2 Million USD. The file will be presented to our governing board for verification and approval and once your file is approved, you will be contacted to come down for signing of the Investors Funds Release Order that will facilitate and expedite the transfer of the funds to your account through our Investment Bank. This is a fair deal without any risk attached either on your part or on my part as long as we comply with the laws governing the claiming of funds in our establishment.

However, I do not want you to come down to sign the Investor's Funds Release Order because you cannot defend the source of the funds during the signing as our remittance department may decide to ask you some salient questions which you may not answer correctly thereby jeopardizing the transaction. Therefore you will inform our establishment that you will not be able to come down for the signing due to some reasons and hereby you appoint an attorney that will represent you for the signing. I shall use my position in my bank to ensure that the approval is issued in your favour without any delay and upon securing the approval the money will be transferred to any of your nominated bank account. If you are serious as I am, we will have this transaction concluded within 10 business days from the date of start.

If you have any question, feel free to contact me and also indicate your interest and capability of handling this arrangement.

Send to me your full names and address below, so that the attorney can start putting together the necessary paperwork that would facilitate the release of the money to you.

Name:
Address:

Kind regards,

Mr. Lad
Deputy President
Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd, Osaka,Japan.

That sounds to good to be true. Is this by any chance illegal?

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Lad-San, (I hope I used this one right)

thanks a lot for your very interesting proposal. Are you sure this is legal? Sorry that I have to ask, but one can´t be careful when dealing with large amounts of money. Please do not hold my question against me. If it is legal, I will be more than happy to participate. Just tell me what to do and we can start right away.

I´m looking forward to our business relationship.

Warmest regards

Lehmann-San

Of course it is legal, at least Volker gets told so and gets to see some ID card to prove how trustworthy lad is:

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From: Mr Lad
Deputy President
The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd,
Osaka, Japan.

Dear Friend ,

Thank you very much for your response.

I assure you that this transaction is 100% legitimate and that you will not be exposed to any form of risk for partnering with me in securing this noble effort. As a professional banker it is my duty to ensure that the transfer is done in a quiet manner, hence you will have to follow my instructions and act accordingly to enable everything work out smoothly. I will do everything legally required to ensure that the project goes smoothly, it shall pass through all Laws of International Banking.

Having resolved to entrust this transaction into your hands, I want to remind you that, it needs your commitment and diligent follow up. If you work seriously, the entire transaction should be over in a couple of days. My estimation of time for the completion of this operation is 10 business days hence I need your total devotion and trust to see this through. I know we have not met before, but I am very confident that we will be able to establish the necessary trust that we need to execute this project.

The world of banking especially is fraught with huge rewards for those who occupy certain offices and oversee certain portfolios. I have the deposit details and my bank will release the Investment deposit to no one unless evidence of ownership is brought forward which I shall provide you with. I alone know of the existence of this deposit for as far as The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd, Osaka, Japan is concerned, the bank's management has no single idea of the history or nature of the deposit. They are simply awaiting instructions to release the deposit to the party that comes forward. This is the situation. And consequently, what I propose is that I will like you as a foreigner to stand in as benefactor so that the fruits of my hard work will not get into the hands of some corrupt bank officials. Acting in this capacity really is simple as I will explain in detail to you when I get your response. Your being aware of this request I am making, I ask that if you find no interest in this project that you should discard this email. I ask that you do not get vindictive and destructive. If my offer is of no appeal to you, delete this message and forget I ever contacted you. You may not know this but people like me who have made tidy sums out of comparable situations run the whole private banking sector. I am not a criminal by what I do, I do not find it against good conscience, this may be hard for you to understand, but the dynamics of my industry dictates that I make this move.

Such opportunities like this only come ones' way once in a lifetime. If you will not work with me let me know and I will move on with my life but do not destroy me. I wish to inform you that you should not contact me via my official channels; I will deny knowing you and about this project. Contact me only through this email address. I do not want any direct phone conversation link between you and me for now. My official lines are not secure lines as they are periodically monitored to assess our level of customer care in line with our Total Quality Management Policy, I am a family man and this is an opportunity to provide my family with new opportunities. The reward for this project makes it a task worth undertaking. I have evaluated the risks and the only risk I have here is from you refusing to work with me and alerting my bank.

For now, I advise that you do not inform nor supply your bank or anybody with any information about this project until I advise otherwise. Our code of operation is "Partnership protection first", Live a low key lifestyle, and remember, "Loose Lips Sink Ships". You and I have the capability to accomplish this project and you must rely on this, this is a sensitive project for which I will be spending so much money and making so much commitments. I therefore insist on strict confidentiality and believe that you can be trusted with same. The need for confidentiality in all matters relating to this transaction is of great importance, as a loose lip is the element of foreseeable failure.

My position as The Deputy President, The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd, Osaka, Japan guarantees the successful execution of this transaction. If you find yourself able to work with me, I urge you to indicate to that effect. I am certain that we can conclude this transaction within ten (10) banking days.

To begin, I will proceed to appointing an attorney who will prepare the necessary documents and affidavits which will put you in place as the benefactor to the investment funds. The attorney will file in the High court the appropriate affidavit in order to empower you as the Beneficiary. The very good thing about this transaction is that it will be done in a very proper and legal manner. After all the necessary documentation for the funds release are met and satisfied, an approval will be given by the board of my bank for the release of the funds to your nominated account.

I will have to search for a Bank overseas which has the same or similar BANK CODE IDENTIFIER with my bank The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd, Osaka, Japan where the money is coming from. You will need to open a temporary account with this Bank so that when the Applications for claims and transfer of our funds are approved by my Bank here, we will transfer our funds (US$16.2m) to your account with the bank and the transfer transaction will be seen as an in-house transfer thereby by-passing all eyebrows and questions from the monetary authorities in Asia and Europe. As soon as our funds are credited in your OFFSHORE ONLINE BANK account, you will now proceed immediately and transfer everything to your home accounts in bits or whichever way you find suitable. This is the best way I have found, and it will protect us from my bank. I want us to enjoy this money in peace when we conclude. Also you have to know that I cannot transfer this money in my name as my bank will be aware that it is from me. This is where I need you.

I will take charge of all expenses at my end till completion, but you will open an account in your name at the intermediary bank we are to use. The opening of the account and its cost is your own responsibility. It is your duty to provide this transaction with an account in your name at the intermediary bank we are to use.

The attorney we are to use will need any valid copy of your Identification papers, that is either your drivers license of international passport, kindly scan and send to me via email as an attached file. When I receive, I shall then send the name and contact details of the foreign intermediary bank we are to use to you so that you can open communication with them and open your account immediately. As a show of good-faith, I have attached copy of my international passport I.D. I ask that you keep me international passport discreet. Thank you.

Send the below information:

Your Full legal Names:
Age:
Profession/Occupation:
Your Present address:
Your confidential Telephone number (not voice-mail or answering machine):
Your most secured E mail address:
Your Country:

The investment fund envisage for transfer to you is worth $16.2 interest inclusive. 40% of the total sums will be retained by you upon the confirmation of the funds in your nominated account. My entitlement is also 40% while the balance 20% of the total sum will go to charity.

Warmest Regards,
Mr Lad
Deputy President
Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd, Osaka,Japan.

Time to send my ID and personal data. I just send him some of my most favorite wallpapers, compressed as ZIP and renamed to JPG. If he ever figures this out he would have some pretty descent wallpapers of World of Warcraft and Crysis 3 (anyone else here into gaming?):

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Greetings Lad-San,

nice to read from you again. It is also good to hear that this transaction is 100% legal. I have your honored word on this, right? Since you are from Japan and you Japanese put honor and keeping your face above all, I can rest assured that this transaction will cause me no legal problems.

Please be assured that I will handle this transaction with all seriousness and keep it confidential at all times. I could not have achieved my current position if I wouldn´t be able to handle such kind of business. It will actually be great to play in the smaller leagues for a while. There is not so much hassle when it comes to amounts below 100 million dollars. It is much more relaxing to handle the small stuff, wouldn´t you agree?

As for the requested informations, please find them below and attached:

Your Full legal Names: Volker Lehmann
Age: 56
Profession/Occupation: retired Business owner
Your Present address: baiting-volker-imaginary-address
Your most secured E mail address: [email protected]
Your Country: Germany

I think it is very noble of you to donate a percentage of the sum to charity. Since I am retired I do a lot of fundraising to help several charities. If you need some inspiration on where to donate the money too, just let me know. I could put you in contact with some influential people over here.

Stay safe
Volker

This earned me some trust and I get more bullshit as a result and he wants to light a lamp with me:

Quote:

From: Mr Lad
Deputy President,
The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd,
Osaka, Japan.

Dear Friend: Volker,

I thank you for your email. I now wish to confirm the receipt of your details; indeed things are getting more real now. Initially I was having double thoughts about your authenticity, I needed to be careful due to the money involved, but now you have proven to me that you are a remarkable partner. I am very happy about this, you have earned my full respect and trust, and I hope you will live up to the respect I have for you. Let us light the lamp of friendship with the oil of sincerity, truthfulness and above all the fear of God.

I truly appreciate the fact that you are ready to assist me in executing this project. I want you to trust me and deal with me with a clean and good heart so that we make success in this business soon. Please understand that the success of this transaction is a means for us to build a solid foundation for our Children and Grand Children; a foundation they will build upon when we are no more. You have no cause to doubt my integrity, and I am very confident doing this transaction with you. I must also let you know that I feel comfortable transacting with you especially with the way you have been handling this transaction even though we have not had a verbal conversation, please do not let me down.

I assure you that this transaction is 100% legitimate transaction and that you will not be exposed to any form of risk for partnering with me in securing this noble effort. As a professional banker it is my duty to ensure that the transfer is done in a quiet manner, hence you will have to follow my instruction and act according to enable everything work out smoothly. I will do everything legally required to ensure that the project goes smoothly, it shall pass through all Laws of International Banking.

I have searched for an OFFSHORE ONLINE BANK which has the same or similar BANK CODE IDENTIFIER with my bank. You will need to open a temporary account with this BANK so that when the Applications for claims and transfer of our funds are approved by my Bank here in Japan, we will transfer our funds (US$16.2Million) to your new account with the bank and the transfer transaction will be seen as an in-house transfer thereby by passing all eyebrows and questions from the monetary authorities in Asia and Europe. As soon as our funds are credited in your new account, you will now proceed immediately and transfer everything to your home accounts in bits which ever you find suitable.

Like I earlier stated, you will be duly represented here by the attorney, although his legal charges are very expensive but I will pay him adequately for this job so that he work for us smoothly, he is an accredited Lawyer with vast experience. He will have all the documents perfected, and with these documents he shall come forward to my bank to apply for the immediate release and transfer of the funds to the account you shall open with the foreign intermediary bank overseas as the final beneficiary.

I am sending to you the contact information of the offshore Bank so you can make inquiries on offshore/online account opening. I advise you to open an account with the bank so that once the funds are released, it will be moved straight into your account you have opened in the offshore bank and this transfer will not attract the monetary bodies that have strict monetary policies, as the transfer will be seen as in-house (same telex type with Bank here) after which you can then transfer the funds in safe and small bits to your main account in your country for both of us. The authorities would simply believe this transfer to be a bank to bank affair, that is between the offshore bank and my bank here (inter-bank affair since both banks bear same telex code) and it would not raise any eyebrows or trigger any red flags, it is necessary to take precautions on issues like this, and I have to ensure that our interest are protected in this transaction. This is completely legal and it will help in the transference of the funds done quietly.

Find below the bank's information:

Bank Name: Alliance Emirate Bank plc.
E-mail: [email protected]
Contact: Mr. Banker Lad.

I sincerely want to thank you for your commitment and diligence, but I also advice you to try and call the official who will be assisting you to set up your on-line offshore bank account so that you can speed up the process of account opening, you may also tell them in advance that you would be expecting a transfer from Japan. You are to forward the details of your new account to me immediately it is active to receive transfers. Being that Alliance Emirate Group is of the same telex type as my bank here it shall be an in-house transfer which would take about 8 hours for the money to hit your account after we transfer from here. As a banker it is necessary for me to inform you that your account status must be active to receive payments. The reason I am telling you this is because if we transfer the money from here to your account when it is not active the transfer will bounce back, which means the money will return to my bank, I do not want this transfer to be faced with any complications arising as a result of any error from your side, because if I transfer and it returns back here it would raise an alarm at my bank, and my colleagues would get interested to make further inquiry into this transaction and that will not be good for me.

As stipulated in my previous email to you, 40% of the overall sum shall be retained by you as your own share for being a my foreign partner in this transaction, 40% of the overall sum is calculated at USD6,480,000. Finally, after the initial transfer has been accomplished from my end and the money in your new account at the intermediary bank, I will provide you with details of my own account where I want my share transferred to, but I will advise you to transfer the funds in safe and small bits (small amounts of about $500,000 or less at a time to any of your nominated bank accounts of your choice). My own share of the money as well is USD6,480,000. The sum of USD3,240,000 is for charity. Upon our successful completion of this effort, I shall finalize my traveling arrangements so that I meet with you in your country for us to sit down on a round table and discuss about setting up a small charitable organization that would cater for the needy and less privilege because this is a dream I have and I wish to help those in need to the best of my capabilities with a proportion of the funds set out for the actualization of this task. Please note that this responsibility is challenging since money as we know could be very tempting. I being the key player in this business effort have decided to give 20% out to charity and you must put that at the back of your mind. The 40% I proposed you part with I believe is enough and if for any reason you feel you would need more, kindly indicate to me immediately for they belong to the Lord after now.

Send me an email in acknowledgement of the receipt of this email as I wait in earnest anticipation of your response.

Best Regard,

Mr Lad
Deputy President,
The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd,
Osaka, Japan.

Volker has security concerns and does not like info@ email addresses, would like to get to know his Lad a bit better and he also wants to hook up:

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My Dear Lad-San,

I received your email and its content was well understood and is hereby acknowledged.

You might not be aware of the fact that I am writing to you from my most secured email account. This account is only known to very very few people. It takes quite some work to keep it this way. I am a very privacy concerned man. Therefore I will under no circumstance send and email out to any account that starts with info@.... . Those accounts are usually forwarded to a whole bunch of people and I do not want to spread my address around like that.

With the above said, I am sure you can either ask Mr. Banker Lad to contact me directly via email or you could send me his direct email address for me to inquiry to him directly. Please understand that I have to insist on this for my privacy as well as the security of this transaction. What would happen if my inquiry falls into the wrong hands at the bank. Somebody else could read the email and try to interfere with our transaction, or even worse, try to scam us out of the money. So for security reasons please proceed as I asked. Thanks a lot for your understanding.

Since we are getting engaged in such a big endeavor, please tell me a bit more about yourself. Are you blessed with childen Lad-San? Do you have family? A wife? What is it like to live in Japan? I have to admit I never had the chance to visit your country as a tourist. I went to Tokio several times, but always on business trips and always in some hurry to get things done and leave as soon as possible. Maybe when the transaction is done we can meet in Tokio and you show me around your beautiful country? I would rent us a helicopter or bring my private jet (a wonderful Gulfstream V) to fly us around the country. And while we are underway we can discuss your charity organization. What are your thoughts on this?

Have a good evening and warm regards

Volker

First he can´t shut up, now he is talking as little as he possibly can, lazy bastard:

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From: Mr Lad
Deputy President,
The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd,
Osaka, Japan.

Dear Friend: Volker Lehmann,

Email Received. I hereby provide you the private contact email of Richard Doane with Alliance Emirate Bank plc.

Find below private email address of Mr. Richard Doane:
Contact: Mr. Banker Lad.
E-mail: [email protected]
Alliance Emirate Bank plc.

My wife and family is perfectly OK and I will be very glad to take you round my beautiful country upon the completion of this transaction. Please keep me posted once you have contacted Richard Doane.

Best Regard,
Mr Lad
Deputy President,
The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd,
Osaka, Japan.

So now that he provided what I asked for (I count that as a small win), Volker will try to get a new account. He has done this a billion times, shouldnt be problem now. However, Rome wasn´t build in a day, so Volker took his sweet time before contacting the Banker. Which leads Lad to wonder:

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From: Mr Lad Ogawa
Deputy President,
The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd,
Osaka, Japan.

Dear Friend: Volker ,

How are you doing today? Hope you have contacted Mr. Richard Doane?

Mr Lad
Deputy President,
The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd,
Osaka, Japan.

Volker was on a short vacation trip:

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Good morning Lad-san,

I am doing good, thank you. I took some days and went on a short trip to the Cayman Islands. Have you ever been there? Beautiful weather, fantastic beaches, good food and a great golf club. Do you golf Lad-san?

I just wrote to your mentioned banker. I put in in blind cc, so you should have the email too. Now we wait for Mr. Doane to get back to me.

Have a good day my friend
Regards

Volker

The mail I send to the banker:

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Good day Mr. Doane,

I am in need of a new bank account in overseas. Please send me your new customer application form as well as your price lists, SWIFT code, interest rates and bank profile for me to evaluate. I plan to put several million EUR and USD into this account, therefore, please go to the big leagues directly and spare me the small stuff. Please note that I would also need a debit card/credit card to this account. The credit amount should be at least EUR or USD 250.000,00.

Rest assured that I have opened tons of accounts in overseas during my active business years, so I am quite familiar with the drill. Lets get this thing on the road, shall we? Send me your files and I will return then.

Thanks and have a good day.
Respectfully

Volker L.

The banker gets in contact with Volker, but his manors are in need of improvement. He has the balls to instruct Volker:

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International Transfer Unit
Alliance Emirate Bank plc
http://www.allianceemirate.com/s*ecure*

WELCOME TO ALLIANCE EMIRATE BANK PLC
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF OFFSHORE/ONLINE ACCOUNT OPENING

To our esteemed customer,

Welcome to Alliance Emirate Bank plc. Structured and Regulated by the Financial Service Authority World Bank. Presently one of the most efficient commercial bank in the World that has meet up with the requirements of a World Class Standard Online Banking, in our truest sense to serve as a momentous symbol heralding an age of positive economic and financial growth, our international transfer Unit which links you to us, is strictly under the international law governing international transfer propounded by World Bank (WB).

http://www.allianceemirate.com/s*ecure*/aboutus.htm

Your application for the creation "offshore/online account" was received and approved by the customer care of this bank. You are required to send the Below information's for the creation of your offshore/online account.

YOUR PERSONAL DETAILS:

(1) FULL NAME:_____
(2) NEXT OF KIN:______
(3) CONTACT ADDRESS/ ZIP/POSTAL CODE::______
(4) STATE:_______
(5) COUNTRY:__________
(6) TELEPHONE NUMBER:__________
(7) MOBILE TELEPHONE NUMBER IF ANY__________
( Cool

OCCUPATION__________

You are instructed to fill the above form and send back to us via e-mail. Any of the below acceptable forms of identification should be sent to us via email to enable the creation of your account:

* International Passports
* Driver's License
* State Identity Cards

ISSUED BY:
Mr. Banker Lad.
Alliance Emirate Bank plc.

"You are instructed..." ??? No one instructs Volker on what to do and what not. There will be consequences:

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Good evening Richard,

first of all, I take offense on the term "You are instructed to fill..."! You do not instruct potential customers, you ask them nicely. As I mentioned, I plan to put quite the amount of money into an account at your bank. I am no small time customer with a few thousands bucks to put away. I was under the impression that I made that perfectly clear when I first contacted you.
Second, you choose not to send me any of the files I asked for. This is very unprofessional and I expect much more from an esteemed banking house like yours. Did you even read my email? I get the impression that you did not and just send your usual crappy copy-paste-text without evening caring what I asked you for. So tell me Richard, why would I still want to open an account with you if you are not even able to read my mails in reply to them in a respectful manner? What keeps me from just looking for another bank to open my account and stash my money? This should have been a standard procedure, you send your files and I send my files, nothing fancy about is. But since you choose the lazy, very very unprofessional and rude way, this will take a bit longer.

So now that this is out of the way, I kindly ask you again to send me the requested files asap. As a token of good faith I attached my ID and business card to this email. This will give you all the information you need. So the ball is your court now.

As for the future, I expect a much more respectful tone from you. Otherwise I will take my quite substantial business somewhere else. I hope we are now clear on this.

Best regards
Volker L

In the meantime in Japan, a Lad gets a bit pushy:

Quote:

From: Mr Lad
Deputy President,
The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd,
Osaka, Japan.

Dear Friend: Volker ,

Email Received. Regarding your previous email, it's nice to see that you have contacted Mr. Richard Doane in Alliance Emirate Bank. You should be very fast in your correspondence with Mr. Richard Doane towards the opening of your offshore online account. I never intended this transaction will exceed more than a week but due to your slow responds that is what's delaying.

I await your account details once you it's activated with Alliance Emirate Bank so I can forward to the attorney for the legal filing that would facilitate the release of the money to your newly opened offshore account with Alliance Emirate Bank.

I await your prompt responds to my email.

Mr Lad
Deputy President,
The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd,
Osaka, Japan.

This does not sit well with Volker, not at all:

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Dear Lad-San,

this is the second time today that I have to take rudeness from somebody I am trying to help. As you are well aware I am a pretty busy man. Being a retired man does not make me lazy, nor does it clear my schedule so that I could concentrate on one single matter. I have accounts to manage, fulfill the needs of my family, handle the charities I work with, not to mention my quite intensive sports program (one have to stay healthy at our age, right?). Your business is important to me, but it is still me that is helping you. You need my help, not the other way around. So before accusing me of slow responses you should get your manors right. I hope we understand each other on this.
I had a similar, rather rude email von Richard earlier. He had the nerve to instruct me to do something. Can you believe this? I worked my ass of since I was 14 years old. I build a company from scratch, turned it into a very lucrative multinational business and some lousy small time banker has the nerve to instruct me!?!? Let me tell you something, the world is full of disrespectful people! There is no honor in business anymore, no respect for once accomplishments. I am quite angry about this and I gave Richard a piece of my mind on this.

So now that this is out of the way, I did send this crappy-lazy sorry of excuse of a banker my files. The ball is now in his court. If he replies to me and if he provides the files I asked him for I will continue with the account opening. If not, this whole process will take a lot more time than we both expected and you might want to look for another bank with much more professional staff who also have some manors.

Until then, stay patience my friend.
Best regards

Volker

While I was still writing this post I received the latest message from my Lad. It seems he is not happy with me at all. Is it my imagination or is he a tiny bit pissed off?

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From: Mr Lad
Deputy President,
The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd,
Osaka, Japan.

Dear Friend: Volker,

Email Received. Prior to your previous email, it is very clear that you are not willing and ready to play by my plans. You sounded so rudely and acted like a child who just newly started seeing money. I am now scared to proceed with this transaction with you. Infact, I am terminating this transaction with you immediately via my attorney based on the fact that you are not an humble man. I will search for a more better and reliable person that is down to earth to handle this transaction for me.

Have a nice day Mr. Busy man.

Mr Lad
Deputy President,
The Senshu Ikeda Bank Ltd,
Osaka, Japan.

Why do I get the impression that he doesn´t read my mails carefully? Volker "acted like a child who just newly started seeing money" ? Didn´t he read about my Gulfstream V or my trip to the Cayman Island. Did he not read my mail to his banker stating that I would like to put a small fortune into my new account?

Anyhow, I do not want this bait to end, but I also do not want to roll over for this asshole. So I am inclined to try to walk away from it and hope that he bites again. What do you guys and girls think about it. Is he bluffing?

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:18 am

The lad may be feeling a bit stuck because, of course, he doesn't have all the bank details you request to be sent to your character.

'You are not a humble man' is probably his way of saying, 'You are not an easy victim'. He may think that Volker is too knowledgeable to end up sending him fake fees.

In the early stages, lads often just skim through emails, checking that the victim is being compliant and obedient, and they may just take in a few sentences you wrote, and not read the whole mail. It's fun to play an awkward argumentative character, and it can work OK too, but you may have to bait quite a lot of lads before you find the one who will go to special efforts to create explanations and imaginative excuses. I like your character! But most lads are not only lazy, but also have little or no idea about what they are talking about in their scripts, or the way that things really work. So they are looking for an easy believing and trusting victim, who (appears) to be going along with whatever they say.

Apologising and giving in to a lad isn't really 'rolling over' for him - it's just another baiting technique to prompt him to write back. So you could write something like, 'I'm sorry if I offended you. Although experienced in Europe, I guess I don't understand about banking in Japan. Please can you guide me through this transaction?'

Or you can just forget about him (file him away under Not Suitable) and start again with a new lad.

Incidentally: this Main Scambaiting Forum is public, and googleable, so you might want to edit your post and remove Volker's email address from it - you wouldn't want a future lad to google that address and find it here.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:43 pm

After the last reply from my favourite lad I took some time to thing on how to proceed. I decided to try playing the No-Card. If he wants somebody else, then Lad-san can go search for somebody else. But not without paying Volker for his rendered services:

Quote:

My dear Shoichi-san,

if you see the need to cancel this transaction on the basis of your very own impatience, you are free to do so. I have plenty of money, a few million dollars more or less will not hurt me. I ventured into this transaction to help you out, not to enlarge my fortune any further. In fact, I was going to send my share of this transaction to charity anyway.

As I tried to explain to you my universe does not evolve around you and your business. You kept pressuring for something that did not need any form of pressuring. And a lot of the delays were made by yourself. You speak of being scared yet you produced a big security problem. You provided insufficent contact details for your banker. Who in the world is so careless and would write to an info@ email address when it comes to such high value business? And speaking of the banker, where did you find this inpollite idiot anyway? He did not even read my email carefully enough to provide the requested documents. Do you really believe I would put my name on an offshore account with an idiot of a banker? (By the way, I have not heard from your banker since my last email to him. So he is delaying this transaction for a couple of days by now) All those problems were made by you, not by me.

I am on the Cayman Islands right now, if you like I can source for a suitable bank here. My aircraft is undergoing some maintenance right now, so I can not leave the island anyway. I have a lot of banker friends here with whom I had done business for decades now. I am sure one of them would be able to provide us with a suitable high security account for this transaction. The Cayman Island banks are even more secure them the Swiss banks.

If you still want to cancel the transaction I will invoice you the time I spend so far in this transaction. But as a Token of good faith I will only charge half of my usual consulting charges per hour.

Think about your next step very carefully Shoichi-san and let me know your final decision.

Best regards
Volker

I really hope he stays hooked, but I highly doubt it. Time will tell.

Not quite a Newb Joined: 21 Oct 2014 Posts: 45

So I'm not a pro or anything but I think the basic thing in a psychological manipulation is to act like you play all by his rules and try to convince him that this is his plan! If anything goes wrong deeply apologize however tell him the situation is not your fault and you couldn't do anything to prevent it from happening. Trust me, he will be hooked and will do many things you want thinking he wanted them himself.
I bait one loan lad for a month now. I have his real name, his Fb, his victims mail adresses, both of his real bank accounts and now going for the trophy which is probably not happening but gonna bait him till he stops responding Smile

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:37 am

Just a thought-but conventional wisdom is that any screw up is ALWAYS THE LAD'S FAULT. If you get mugged at WU, it's the lad's fault for sending you there. If the bank account he gave you isn't receiving transfers, it's his fault for giving you a shady person's account. If he can't get you on the phone, he's calling at the wrong time.

You don't have to slap him or express your suspicions, just politely point out the delay or failure of your efforts are always his fault.