An interesting conversation/justification

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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 8:08 pm

I'm hammering away at lad and had this interesting little back-and-forth with him:

Me: Fine, you can deal with getting them over the border into Benin. I suppose it won't be a big deal. Countries that support your kind of 419 work probably don't care much about anything.

It always amazes me how many of you there are. I get thousands of emails, there must a million 419 scammers.

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Lad: That true and i pray you don`t be a victim of there story, so please
try and proceed with what ever you are doing so by Monday i will have
those Bonds with me and go for pickup.

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Me: I found it amazing that anybody becomes a victim, the messages you guys send out are so ridiculous. Or maybe that's your plan, you figure if someone is stupid enough the reply, they're stupid enough to scam? It seems like a tough way to make a living, how do you make enough to live

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Lad: That you will not even like to know my friend that how it is over here
we call it (AFRICAN MAGIC) but i know that after this business my life will change for good and i still want you to be fast cause we don`t have any more time if you will understand what i mean Partner

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Me: Your african magic will reward you for stealing from innocent people?
Hilarious.
I'm leaving for the attorney's office now and will update you later.
That magic stuff is some seriously funny shit.

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So being a lad will bring on the magic that will change his life for good?

Wow.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 8:51 pm

Ghana Sakawa Boys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o26Eks801oc

Sakawa = Black Magic/Juju and they fervently believe in it.

NB: I wonder, if I went to a Juju man would I get more Safaris? Cool

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:54 pm

loualsindor wrote:

Lad: That you will not even like to know my friend that how it is over here
we call it (AFRICAN MAGIC) but i know that after this business my life will change for good

This thread reminded me of a topic that's been rattling around my brain for quite some time now: why do lads get so angry when they're baited?

Other than the obvious (we've made them waste their time and gotten their hopes up for nothing), I've been thinking that there may be more to it than just that. So how does this sound?

When a lad runs a scam, emails a maga, and goes through his song-n-dance, he sees this as doing work. And, of course, when we do work we expect to be paid. (Or, in the lad's case, to see his life change for good.) Hence, when a baiter does his thing and doesn't end up paying the lad, he's hasn't just wasted the lad's time, he's actually taken money out of the lad's pocket that (in the lad's eyes) he earned.

Sound reasonable, or am I just stating the obvious here?

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 10:37 pm

^^^ I think that's a good point but I think baiters also make them doubt their fervent belief in the power of their black magic. And that's what really cheeses them off.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 12:59 am

I had a lad bring up magic with me just the other day. He is in Nigeria and calls it "babalawo" and believes that if you use black magic you'll get more money from your scams. Also he believes that using magic will make people pay even against their will....

Quote:

Lad: make them to love them and ask them to send money they want to come and they wont come most of them use fake pictures of a popular nigeria man who is old and cute to attract other white woman...some also use charms...charms means magic to talk with the white.

Lad: ...magic to use to talk with the woman on phone call ...anything they ask the woman she will give without doubt

Lad: most times those white arent willing pay willingly so using magic helps dem to make the white pays faster

Re why they pissed off, I think for several reasons including,

1. being bested in general (they see it all as a game, and you just won a round)
2. time used that they could have spent on "real" victims
3. occasionally lads do have upfront expenses (if they've given you multiple bank account numbers, safari-related expenses, etc.)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 2:12 am

I've seen "Consultas de Babalawo" signs in San Francisco. As to pissing the lads off, probably all of the above. I have a product lad frustrated because he's paid for his order, but I won't send the money to the sheeper until he specifies something clearly and completely (see the Black Pork Monthly thread).

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 12:14 pm

An article on Nigerian scammer culture included these comments on occult aids used by Yahoo bois.

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It involves performing various rituals, including sleeping in a cemetery and bathing in a river to brighten the swindler’s chances of getting his victims hypnotised. Once this is successfully done, the victim is guaranteed to keep remitting money from wherever he or she is in the world... “He has a small tortoise he keeps under his feet whenever he is chatting on his laptop with a maga. His fingertips also bear incisions and he has a charm-filled animal horn prepared for him by one of the numerous fetish priests he visits.

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Akpeki’s success is based on the plausibility of his pitches–and, according to him, the use of fetish aids. He claims that a ring he wears on his right index finger and a black powdery substance, which he mixes with honey and licks before speaking with his victim on phone, have worked like magic. “When you lick this substance, whatever you tell the maga is what they do. He or she will be passionate about you and will start having good feelings towards you right from that moment. If you are smart, you can immediately commit him or her to send some money,” he said.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 3:21 pm

Yastreb wrote:

He has a small tortoise he keeps under his feet whenever he is chatting on his laptop with a maga. His fingertips also bear incisions and he has a charm-filled animal horn prepared for him by one of the numerous fetish priests he visits.

And here I thought a baiter asking a lad to put a fish on his head and a carrot up his nose would be the silliest thing imaginable!!!

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 3:27 pm

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NB: I wonder, if I went to a Juju man would I get more Safaris?

why not BE the juju man? i bet you could get lads to do some silly things that way. Twisted Evil

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 4:19 pm

^^^ Sadly (or not), we don't get involved with the occult in our baits. Too much possibility of people and other animals getting hurt.

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 13 Jan 2014 Posts: 698

^^^^ Yes, it is firmly out-of-bounds - and rightly so.

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