The western union money gram post office

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:58 pm

I have been baiting this lad for a couple of weeks now, and I thought I would share this as a fun delaying and frustration-inducing modality. Lad's messages are in quotes, my character's responses are in blue. Since the lad says in every email to "rush", I am following my policy of 1 email per day, no more.

The lad's (thankfully) simple opening script:

Quote:

I'm on a business trip to Madrid-Spain now and i really need your urgent help immediately.

I wait to hear back from you.

I don't understand. How can I help you if you are in Spain? I am not in Spain.

And, the immediate request for money. This lad is ambitious, asking for so much money from a stranger in the 2nd email.

Quote:

Thanks for your mail back , I'm in Madrid-Spain right now for a short business trip and am short of cash right here, i tried to access my account from the ATM-cash machines here and its not working, i went to the bank to withdraw and was informed that i cant withdraw from my account in this country due to some network problem so i want you to loan or help me with $1,150 or less than the amount you having on you right now so i can quickly pay for the things i ordered from a company here and also have an access to a telephone center to be able to reach at you on my schedules so i can be enabled to get a cab to the airport immediately before it get late and i promise to refund back the money to you as soon as i get back home OK?

This are my information's you need, copy it and rush down to the nearest western union or money gram

Name: LAD
Location: Calle d serrano, 106, 28006 Madrid Spain
Text question: Buy
Answer: Goods

Immediately you send the money please kindly get back to me with the Western Union transfer details such as

Sender's Name:
Sender's Location:
MTCN #:
Amount:?

Send money so that he can pay for things he BOUGHT from a company there? REALLY? That's hardly an emergency. Not even my mother sends me money to pay for stuff I've bought!

Typical American college student that my character (Jen) is:
Why can't you just put it on a credit card?

Still on script, still asking for a fairly large sum of money...

Quote:

I just got your message right now because i dont have a private internet access here in this country, there is nothing you need to be scared of , it is me Sylvia requesting for some help from you due to the fact that i cant access our Bank Account because of the hectic network problem Laughing

so please rush down to send me {$1,150} so that i can get a cab to the airport and also pay for the things i ordered and when i return home i will refund back all you spent OK?

This are my information's you need, copy it and rush down to the nearest western union or money gram post office:

<same info>

Immediately you send the money please kindly get back to me with the Western Union transfer details

Those darned "hectic networks" will get you every time!

Jen still doesn't understand:
If you are on a business trip, why can your company not help you? If they sent you to Spain, then they should help you with your money situation. What company do you work for?

FINALLY, off-script:

Quote:

Company did not send me to Spain, i travel to Spain to buy goods, am into buying and selling of female wears. Shocked

Please help me with this favor, I shall reward you when i return back home i promise...I we send back your money and all that you spend..

God bless you.

After several exchanges about trust and when would I get paid back, where do you live (gave me a bogus US address), etc, we got back around to the payment...

Quote:

I have been waiting to hear back from you with the details of the Western Union Money Transfer so i can be able to pay for the things i ordered and get a cab to the airport to get my trip home to refund the money back to you and please be very fast so i can get away from this predicament OK?

his are my information's you need, copy it and rush down to the nearest western union or money gram post office.

<same info>

As an entitled millennial who believes everything can be done with an "app", Jen has never heard of WU.
What is western union? Is that a bank?

Thank you so much, stupid lad, for the free piggy and for providing the next direction of this bait.

Quote:

No, it is called post office, You can use a Western Union Or Money Gram to send me the $1,100. Please kindly send the money so i can leave this place and return back to my country:

This are my information's you need, copy it and rush down to the nearest western union or money gram to send me the money.

<same info, yet again>

Immediately you send the money please kindly get back to me with the Western Union or money gram transfer details such as:

Sender's Name:
Sender's Location:
MTCN or Reference No:
Amount;?

Or kindly make a wire transfer to this below bank details and send me the payment receipt of the wire transfer.

Bank Name: La Caixa
<snip>

Oh! Jen knows what a post office is!
I went to the post office today and sent you the money you need. When are you going to pay me back and how?

Note that I didn't say HOW I sent the money. How else do you send money from the post office? Lad doesn't seem to realize what happened here... Twisted Evil

Quote:

Thank you so much for sending the money to me, I promise to refund all that you spend immediately i got back home this week.

Please send me the scan copy of the payment receipt now.

Waiting for you now.

And, thus begins a week of confusion...
What payment receipt?

Quote:

The receipt you use in sending the money to me, or kindly enclose to me the sender's name, sender's address, the money control number (MTCN) of the wire transfer.

I don't know what a money control number is. Do you mean the receipt for the stamps? I went to the post office and sent the money to you at the address you provided, like you asked me to. I don't know how long it will take it to get to Spain.

Lad still doesn't take the hint that Jen mailed the money instead of a wire transfer. But, again, he unwittingly provides more ammunition for the bait.

Quote:

I mean the payment receipt which is the receipt of the stamps, please kindly scan it and send it to me immediately.

Waiting to hear from you.

Oh, yes! Jen bought stamps! How else would she be able to mail the money?
Here is the receipt from the post office for the stamps. I don't understand why you need this. (I attached a scanned receipt showing the purchase of a book of stamps for $9 from the US Post Office. That was AFTER I first sent a 20 MB renamed dll file. Twisted Evil

)

The lad is patronizing and STILL doesn't understand what's going on.

Quote:

My dear.......i need the 10 digit number of the Western Union Or the 8 Digit of the Money Gram which you use to wire the fund to me.....this is not what i want...please kindly go back to the post office where you send the money and ask them for the Money control number or the reference number of the wire transfer.

I want you to do that now so i can pick up the money from the bank immediately.

Best Regards.

Jen is still confused (and ignoring his references to a wire transfer)...
I don't understand. You sent me your address in Spain, so I sent you the money. You told me to go to the post office and send it. That's what I did. The money will come to your address, not to any bank.

Wow. This one is REALLY thick! Could I have made it any more clear that the money was sent in the mail? Rolling Eyes

Quote:

Them send me the tracking number which you use in send the money to
me...what i was ecpecting you to do is for you to go to the western
union or money gram post office to send me the money.,i need you to
send me all the information you use in posting the money to me and all
the details they give to you.

Please send them to me now okay.

Jen did what she was told, so any problems the come up in the future will, of course, be entirely the lad's fault.
I don't understand. I DID go to the post office, and I DID post the money to you. That's why I had to buy the stamps. There is no reference number when you buy stamps. Do you mean the check number?

And, the self-baiting continues...

Quote:

Yes, send me the check number. but i told you to go to western union or money gram post office and send the money to me, anyway if i have receive the money i we inform you okay.

Once again thank for helping me. God bless you.

Oh! The check number! Sure, I have that. That's the little 4-digit number on top of each check in my checkbook, right?
It was check number 1094. It should arrive soon, I would think. I've never sent money to Spain before. I hope your trip is going well! I am going to the Hamptons with some friends from school this weekend. I don't know if I will have internet access, and cell service is sketchy out there. I hope you have a good weekend!

We'll see if this idiot ever figures out that Jen mailed a check to the physical address in Spain. What a stupid git! Rolling Eyes

Perhaps Jen should ask more questions about these "female wears" the lad buys and sells. Hmmm....

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:16 pm

Some Lads have a problem with the whole post office concept.

I told a Lad that I'd posted him a bank payment record. He asked for the tracking number. I told him that I'd posted it and there was no such number. DHL or Fedex, the Lad asks. Australia Post, I tell him. Confusion reigns.

Even worse was the "Engineer" who was told about the cheque posted to him. He demanded the MTCN; when told that it was posted, not sent by WU, he demanded the number for picking up from the post office. I told him that the cheque was in an envelope that would be delivered to his office, he lost his temper and stated that he couldn't receive a cheque without the tracking number. Nothing could convince him otherwise.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:31 am

One of my mentees has been playing with the same Sylvia, who appears to be dumb enough for him to use as a great training tool.

Good fun.

Master Baiter Joined: 14 Feb 2015 Posts: 125

Good idea! Plus this might be a good one to use for me!

My characters lives in an area where MG actually is in a post-office. So far I always tell the lads I do not know what Western Union and Money Gram are, must of the time they just give me the adress, which of course is the same than the post office one. I guess it would be easy to make the bait goes in this direction instead of falling into the payment too soon.

Thanks for sharing, I sure will give it a try on my next baits!

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:14 am

Am I right in thinking this is a Nigerian lad based in Spain? He says 'Am' at the start of his sentences and says 'okay' a lot, but gave a spanish address. If I was still a relative newcomer that would warp my mind Smile

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:31 am

I've been baiting Sylvia as well - told her I was going to get a friend in Madrid to hand deliver the 500 to her address and then when the friend couldn't find her, she randomly came back with a bank account.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:32 am

A quick run-through, and I see none of the lad's sentences beginning with "Am." Even if they did, that is no direct indication they are Nigerian. Perhaps one of our members more familiar with linguistics can chime in, but, IMO, that's some pretty shallow thinking.

Also, a Spanish address does not mean a lad is there. I often see lad's give addresses for areas all over the world. Sometimes the name fits with the country, sometimes it doesn't.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:34 am

This one also bounces around between addresses in Spain and Colorado, so who can say?

Little bugger must feel like he won the lottery having so many suckers trying to pay him at the same time.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:39 am

There's a few missing "I"'s before the "am" and a few other things that would indicate that they're probably West African - but there is no way to know if they're Nigerian, Ghanaian, etc.

They're probably not from one of the French speaking countries as they tend to write in French and Google translate to English and their French dialect doesn't always translate well.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:20 am

I will likely be able to find his true IP once I introduce him to the joys of the 5PT5. Twisted Evil

I'm glad to hear that other baiters are giving "Sylvia" some love. Very Happy

Show Me The Goodies Joined: 18 Oct 2014 Posts: 301

One thing we can all agree on is the Lad is a complete tw@t and needs a good slap Cool

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:40 am

This lad may actually speak French. He uses the form of address "my dear" which sounds odd or patronizing in English, but is quite common in French ("mon cher"). There are a few phrases that sound more natural in French than in English ("Immediately you send the money"). He also asked for money right away. If I had to guess, I'd say this is a Beninois lad.

But regardless of where he's from, it seems like you have a fun lad here. Bait the hell out of him. Very Happy

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:15 am

@bware-it wasn't shallow thinking, my mistake it is mid way through a sentence

Quote:

am into buying and selling of female wears

and the lad says

Quote:

please kindly

a few times. These are just observations I have picked up from my own baits when I know the lads were from Nigeria by tracking their IP, or from their Western Union details.

When I read a scam letter I analyse them for grammatical indications as to the source of the letter. I noticed these as most likely being a nigerian lad because the dialect is similar to ones I've baited personally.

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