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MANKIND
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:29 pm |
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Since I was lucky enough to have this bait progress the way it did, I wanted to give it a proper update for any new readers, since the first few pages may be confusing. The first 2 pages are of the lads mini safari from Lagos to Lokoja. Some interesting email exchanges, in which the lad was actually at a hotel in Lokoja. From the emails from page 2 on, TM and Dr Mike introduce our guest to SH Abuja (the first lad ever to safari there!)! His safari from Lagos to Abuja has been confirmed, and he was lost and stranded in a small city outside of Abuja for about 10 days, after his misadventures trying to find SH. He has just returned to Lagos and is gearing up for his trip to Ghana.
Here is a list of a few of the characters involved in the bait:
1.) Moses - Our protagonist who has journeyed from Lagos to Lokoja, Lajos to Abuja, and now setting up his travels to Ghana.
2.) Gus Fring - The crooked Money Gram district manager. He is Moses' main ally in all of his safaris. He is the one who controls all of the 0rphan Reference Numbers/0rphan Transfers.
3.) Eton Twats - A former pastor, who was originally contacted my Moses with the offer of a loan, so he could repair a burnt down homeless shelter. Mr. Twats originally went to Money Gram to send Moses the transfer fee, but Mr. Fring, knowing this was a 419 scam, denied the transfer, and instead contacted Moses with the idea of the 0rphan RNs. Since Moses and Mr. Fring were now allies, Moses sent Mr. Twats back to see Mr. Fring to complete the transfer (after Moses had already been to Lokoja and Abuja). Tragically, Mr. Twats perished in a car accident on his way to send Moses the transfer fees.
4.) Saul Goodman - A minor character, but he has kept Moses busy with well over 6 hours of answering questions with MTCN S-e-c-u-r-e. Mr. Goodman basically just wastes as much of Moses' time as possible, and has received a piggy out of him. His main purpose is going to be to keep trying to shut down his bank accounts.
There are also of course TM's and Dr Mike's amazing characters, whom provided incredible entertainment...
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Hello all,
I am very excited this morning. I believe I have my first safari, but I am wondering if some of the experts can help me confirm.
My lad was originally stationed in Lagos. Started with some loan scam, I turned into a crocked MG agent who refused my original charatcers payment to him, then introduced Brun's awesome WIMP modality/Orphan MTCNs.
So the lad claimed he was in Lagos on vacation and had to travel home to Benin City before he could start his journey. I told him I had Orphan MTCNs only payable in Lokoja, roughly 230km to the north from Benin, not counting his original travel from Lokoja to Benin. We went back and forth as he said he needed a few days to get money together to travel. His original IP did resolve to Lagos, then when he claimed he was in Benin, it was somewhere close to Benin, but not actually Benin.
Anyway, the time frames he claimed as far as traveling do match up, according to my estimation. He said he would be arriving last night, and wanted to pick up the funds this morning. I told him I needed confirmation that he is in fact there, whether a picture at a monument, transport receipt, hotel bill, etc.
He sent me this, this morning:
[img] http://scamwarners.com/main/v.php?id=93469Hotel%20Receipt.jpg [/img]
I did some research and the hotel does exist, but I can not match up the phone number. I located on facebook a page for the hotel, which has a picture of a distinct front desk area, possibly for the pool. It has a few clocks behind the desk, and a glass pane in front, and a distinct black counter top. I told him the funds will be activated immediately upon when he sends me a picture of that area of the hotel. I informed him that as manager of our Security Hub, I have stayed there before, so I am familiar with the hotel.
I am wondering if anyone can take a good look at the hotel receipt and tell me if anything fishy is going on. In my amateur opinion, I believe it is genuine.
My intent is to keep pushing him further north, saying that once I activated the funds, I received an error message on our servers that the funds can only be picked up in XXXX city, 200km north.
Any advice and criticism is very much welcome. Thanks to everyone who helped me, and my mentor Tururut! |
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Moses: Lagos - Lokoja
Lagos - SH Abuja
Lagos - Accra, Ghana:
"I hope you did not reveal our deal to the Hotel manager???
driver who supposed to pick ask feeshey question"
"when i tell my tale of traveling on pointless journeys and waste so much
so much money and time i think to myself i am explorer of Africa! but these are difficult
and painful journeys you must understand."
Last edited by MANKIND on Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:20 pm; edited 16 times in total |
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MANKIND
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:34 pm |
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Edit - I believe I fixed the picture issue. Can someone confirm is the link works? And also if you believe the receipt is genuine?
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Moses: Lagos - Lokoja
Lagos - SH Abuja
Lagos - Accra, Ghana:
"I hope you did not reveal our deal to the Hotel manager???
driver who supposed to pick ask feeshey question"
"when i tell my tale of traveling on pointless journeys and waste so much
so much money and time i think to myself i am explorer of Africa! but these are difficult
and painful journeys you must understand."
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B8er
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:35 pm |
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I can't check it from here, but I don't think anyone will be able to open that image as the link goes to your Yahoo mail, so only you will be able to see it. You need to upload it to Uploadeter or Photobucket.
He could have a friend in the area, who could take random pictures of landmarks - so the only real way to prove definitively if someone travels are a photo before they go, so you know what they look like and then a photo of them infront of a landmark at the destination. |
_________________ "I DENOUNCE THE MUFFIN MEN" - Ma Kim
"YOU ARE WALKING DEAD MAN. YOUR WOODEN COFFIN IS READY TO SWALLOW YOU AND YOUR DIRTY GENERATION"
"all chaps are ass-less by design otherwise they just be leather pants" - jose_cuervo
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x 4 x 1746 x 1904 - Fake cheques: $4,392,620.83
Team Woody - Ghana to Singapore - 11535km |
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Ginger Lee
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:46 pm |
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Mankind,
Sorry, I do believe that is a forged receipt.
Check out time in hotels in Benin is noon.
That phone number on the receipt is your lads.
The header on a good receipt would include the actual phone number of the hotel and the street address. |
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MANKIND
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:51 pm |
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Thank you Ginger, after more careful examination, I believe you are correct.
I just realized he listed the phone number that he already gave me
I guess I was so excited thinking I got this lad to safari that I abandoned some common sense. This really pisses me off....
Any advice on how to play this from here? I already told him I need him to snap a picture of the help desk area, so that may keep him, or whoever is there busy for a moment or two. Should I demand a better receipt?
Any comments on how to proceed are very much appreciated!
*edit* Yes that's definitely fake
I just read it more careful and the address is "IBB WAY BEHIND GLO OFFICE"
Is that "IBB WAY - BEHIND GLO OFFIC"
or even more absurd, "IBB - WAY BEHIND GLO OFFICE"
Either way, it is ridiculous. Also, I see the manager's signature with the date is his same exact handwriting...as the handwriting on the receipt is consistent throughout the receipt.
I honestly feel like a fool right now for not examining the receipt more carefully before posting. Sorry for wasting your guys time. I guess this is how actual victims can be fooled.  |
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Moses: Lagos - Lokoja
Lagos - SH Abuja
Lagos - Accra, Ghana:
"I hope you did not reveal our deal to the Hotel manager???
driver who supposed to pick ask feeshey question"
"when i tell my tale of traveling on pointless journeys and waste so much
so much money and time i think to myself i am explorer of Africa! but these are difficult
and painful journeys you must understand."
Last edited by MANKIND on Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:55 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Ginger Lee
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:53 pm |
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Since there is a change in IP address, I would ask for his number in Benin.
I like to do a voice recognition on my lads.
Have you spoken to him?
Do you think you could recognize his voice?
ETA: I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he travelled just yet.
Lads lie, even when on safari. |
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MANKIND
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:58 pm |
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Unfortunately I did not speak to him before he left. However, even if I did, wouldn't it just be his cell phone anyway? I suppose that's why it makes sense why you guys like to have the lads call you from landlines.
Any thoughts on what his angle is here? Is he outsourcing the job to someone? If he didn't really travel, or doesn't have someone there, how could he expect to pick up the funds? this is for Money Gram so the Reference numbers can't be checked online, and I made it clear to him that they will not be able to be picked up until I activate them.
Should I press him on the receipt, telling him I know it is a forgery? |
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Moses: Lagos - Lokoja
Lagos - SH Abuja
Lagos - Accra, Ghana:
"I hope you did not reveal our deal to the Hotel manager???
driver who supposed to pick ask feeshey question"
"when i tell my tale of traveling on pointless journeys and waste so much
so much money and time i think to myself i am explorer of Africa! but these are difficult
and painful journeys you must understand."
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Ginger Lee
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:00 pm |
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Travelling lads purchase new sim cards for their phone so they can call with a shiny new country code.
He may have outsourced the job. |
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B8er
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:04 pm |
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| MANKIND wrote: |
I just read it more careful and the address is "IBB WAY BEHIND GLO OFFICE"
Is that "IBB WAY - BEHIND GLO OFFIC"
or even more absurd, "IBB - WAY BEHIND GLO OFFICE"
Either way, it is ridiculous. |
That could be a real address. Many African countries (and other countries) don't have the formal addresses you see in more developed countries and reference landmarks. |
_________________ "I DENOUNCE THE MUFFIN MEN" - Ma Kim
"YOU ARE WALKING DEAD MAN. YOUR WOODEN COFFIN IS READY TO SWALLOW YOU AND YOUR DIRTY GENERATION"
"all chaps are ass-less by design otherwise they just be leather pants" - jose_cuervo
x 5
                                  x 335 🚽
x 4 x 1746 x 1904 - Fake cheques: $4,392,620.83
Team Woody - Ghana to Singapore - 11535km |
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MANKIND
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:09 pm |
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Thanks guys and girls.
It appears IBB Way is an actual street. His latest two emails when he sent the receipt are the following:
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Hello Mr. fring
i do understand you but as i am now i don't have any money to go and take a snap i am in Lokoja city now close to International Market of the city,
Please i am the one you are dealing with God is my witness even when we proceed for Ghana deal i will be using the Same receiver name please Mark this,? i want you to know that i will be faithful in this deal.
Once you activate them please notify me via text message my number at the moment i lost out of Network i promise you after this first transaction will go straight take a photo and send you my identity okay.
Once again i am so grateful for this business opportunity, Hopefully by 2pm i will be going to pink up the funds
Regards
Smith |
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Activate it once you get to the office i am i front of Eco bank now in the city close to Post office around about.
please remember to notify me via Text Message +23480740**** "ACTIVATED"
Regards
smith
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Moses: Lagos - Lokoja
Lagos - SH Abuja
Lagos - Accra, Ghana:
"I hope you did not reveal our deal to the Hotel manager???
driver who supposed to pick ask feeshey question"
"when i tell my tale of traveling on pointless journeys and waste so much
so much money and time i think to myself i am explorer of Africa! but these are difficult
and painful journeys you must understand."
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Ginger Lee
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:27 pm |
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Mankind, I do believe I misread your opening post.
I confused Benin and Benin City.
Sending you a pm, since there is a change in IP I believe there may have been a safari but I have an idea.
ETA: It could very well be a real receipt. |
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Some Buddy At Home
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:45 pm |
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| Ginger Lee wrote: |
... I believe there may have been a safari but I have an idea.
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"I have an idea" + twisted emoticon = Lad pain, Ginger style! |
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:48 pm |
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^ and may God have mercy on his soul*
*If he's not too busy with other matters, or is on lunch |
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Ginger Lee
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:06 pm |
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In case I don't get to touch base with mankind:
That hotel may have very well issued that receipt.
I assumed this was a hotel in Benin (it is Nigeria) since I completely misunderstood the first post.
I offered to call the hotel to verify his stay.
I also wonder if the lad could be talked into returning to the hotel at a specified time to receive a call (from the hotel phone) just for verbal confirmation.
A later call to his mobile phone would produce a voice recognition. |
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Ginger Lee
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:49 pm |
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Damn lads.
While the receipt may be genuine, the hotel did not have a guest by that name last night or any night.
The lad now has to return to the hotel to receive a call with a security code since an imposterator is on the loose. |
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MANKIND
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:19 pm |
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Ginger, you are awesome!
Thank you for your help and for calling! Very much appreciated!
I should inform him that he needs to call me from the hotel line, correct? |
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Moses: Lagos - Lokoja
Lagos - SH Abuja
Lagos - Accra, Ghana:
"I hope you did not reveal our deal to the Hotel manager???
driver who supposed to pick ask feeshey question"
"when i tell my tale of traveling on pointless journeys and waste so much
so much money and time i think to myself i am explorer of Africa! but these are difficult
and painful journeys you must understand."
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Ginger Lee
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:27 pm |
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Just tell him to arrive at the hotel lobby and to text you when he is there.
I will then call the hotel to verify that he is there (sometimes they'll let the guest speak on their line-I keep it short so as not to abuse the hotel line).
After that we'll do a call to his cell. It is possible he stayed there last night under a different name.
Ask him what he is wearing. |
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MANKIND
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:29 pm |
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Whoa...this just in!
He just sent me 6 pictures from (supposedly) within the hotel!
can you guys take a look please:
[img] http://scamwarners.com/main//guestupload/94301Hotel Pictures.jpg [/img]
Should I bring up that I called the hotel and that his name was not registered as a guest? |
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Moses: Lagos - Lokoja
Lagos - SH Abuja
Lagos - Accra, Ghana:
"I hope you did not reveal our deal to the Hotel manager???
driver who supposed to pick ask feeshey question"
"when i tell my tale of traveling on pointless journeys and waste so much
so much money and time i think to myself i am explorer of Africa! but these are difficult
and painful journeys you must understand."
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Ginger Lee
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:32 pm |
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Don't let him know you called.
I'm having trouble viewing the photos. |
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B8er
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:48 pm |
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The space in the file name causes problems
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_________________ "I DENOUNCE THE MUFFIN MEN" - Ma Kim
"YOU ARE WALKING DEAD MAN. YOUR WOODEN COFFIN IS READY TO SWALLOW YOU AND YOUR DIRTY GENERATION"
"all chaps are ass-less by design otherwise they just be leather pants" - jose_cuervo
x 5
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x 4 x 1746 x 1904 - Fake cheques: $4,392,620.83
Team Woody - Ghana to Singapore - 11535km |
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MANKIND
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:05 pm |
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Thank you Ginger and B8er!
As you can see, there are 3 pictures with the same people in it. Not saying they are from within the hotel, but he did give me a number to call, saying it is actually the hotel.
I am inclined to think he really is there. |
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Moses: Lagos - Lokoja
Lagos - SH Abuja
Lagos - Accra, Ghana:
"I hope you did not reveal our deal to the Hotel manager???
driver who supposed to pick ask feeshey question"
"when i tell my tale of traveling on pointless journeys and waste so much
so much money and time i think to myself i am explorer of Africa! but these are difficult
and painful journeys you must understand."
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B8er
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:10 pm |
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Download the photos and take a look at the properties - if it was sent from the phone straight to email and not edited then it should have the EXIF data which will show when it was taken.
Or use this http://regex.info/exif.cgi |
_________________ "I DENOUNCE THE MUFFIN MEN" - Ma Kim
"YOU ARE WALKING DEAD MAN. YOUR WOODEN COFFIN IS READY TO SWALLOW YOU AND YOUR DIRTY GENERATION"
"all chaps are ass-less by design otherwise they just be leather pants" - jose_cuervo
x 5
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x 4 x 1746 x 1904 - Fake cheques: $4,392,620.83
Team Woody - Ghana to Singapore - 11535km |
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MANKIND
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:16 pm |
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Thanks B8er. Unfortunately I am at work and can't download images here. I will do that first thing when I get home though. |
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Moses: Lagos - Lokoja
Lagos - SH Abuja
Lagos - Accra, Ghana:
"I hope you did not reveal our deal to the Hotel manager???
driver who supposed to pick ask feeshey question"
"when i tell my tale of traveling on pointless journeys and waste so much
so much money and time i think to myself i am explorer of Africa! but these are difficult
and painful journeys you must understand."
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The Monsignor
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:36 pm |
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Hello MK, interesting Thread. Great that you are after a Safari! There are ways and means of achieving/proving these, and this varies with the Bait.
I am currently working with a small group of Baiters who are trying to achieve Safaris. One has already succeeded. It does take time, commitment, and dedication. Sometimes, Lads move readily. Most do not.
If you do not have a Mentor and would like me to help you Safari bait, get in touch.
I wish you every success!  |
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Ginger Lee
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Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:01 pm |
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The Monsignor does provide a wonderful service and can verify a safari and give some great advice on how to get your lad to travel. |
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