Tenacious & stupid lad: good things come to an end

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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:17 pm

Way back in <strike>November</strike> June 2011 a suicide lad posted a recovery scam format on Scamwarners. Rolling Eyes

I decided to bait him. I gave him the back story I've used successfully in other baits: rich widow, trying to close out husband's estate, surprise contract fund, sent over $200K in the past year, still nothing happening, yada yada. I told him I thought maybe I was being scammed and asked him to check out my fake lad. Meanwhile, as a well-hooked victim, I was still sending money to the fake lad.

Dumbo was hooked from the outset, but he proved to be boring beyond belief. Finally as February approached I decided screw it, this isn't going anywhere anyway, so I'll just aim straight for a trophy pic, which I would use in the 2012 Valentine's thread to woo Ima. Wink

He fought tooth and nail but finally sent a pic. But it was a pitiful Photoshop job. Mad

I posted it anyway but I slapped the lad silly.

So that was over a year ago. Since then he writes me every few weeks, I just send the same reply I had been sending ever since his terrible fake: I won't do anything until he complies. A month or two go by, he writes again. Same answer.

Yawn.

So finally he starts acting serious and promises to send the picture. I decide to pick up the bait and act serious too. I tell him I'm considering traveling to Cameroon to finalize this personally. He's excited. I'm smelling possible safari. He's smelling guaranteed money from a proven maga. But-- nothing until the picture. The instructions were plain:

my character wrote:

Remember what I told you in the first place: I told you "I want a clear, large, high-resolution photograph of you standing before the police department building, with the police name visible, holding a sign saying "Ima is a Goddess."

Finally, this morning he sends me a picture:

Sorry, Ima, I tried. Laughing

Here's his mail:

Quote:

Good Morning Madam,

I have come to a conclusion of sending my photograph to you because i want us to be confidential and be faithful to each other.I have all the respect and pride to work with you and to serve you and to protect you with all required security.After a long period of time i have decide to have confidence in you and to work with you hand hand in other to keep the fund document for any fraud or corruption about this document which will be handed to your husband but since the will is showing that if he is not or dead,the document must be handed to his wife. Madam for security you must not share our conversation with [my fake lad] for your security and if you want us to put hand on him don't tell him on what we are discussing because your issued is on my table and i must put everything in place.Now that you have my photo hope we can now continue with our business and make program that everything should be fine and in position.Madam I will like to know when you will be making the payment for the two other signature? you promise and it your duty because i want to get everything ready before you come here for vacation okay.

Please can you give me a number to call for urgent or can you call me

at +237 xxxxxx

thanks very mush and waiting

Now I can't decide whether to slap him some more or just drop it and push for a safari. I'm leaning toward the second option....

Edit to note that the bait started several months earlier than I remembered.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:29 pm

Picture looks legit to me.

I second the second option!

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:32 pm

I honestly don't understand how even lads can think people can fall for these. Same goes for their fake ids. How hard can it be to spend a couple of hours doing a decent job instead of making something that will scare off any non blind victims.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:34 pm

Photo looks convincing enough to me - hope you get a good safari out of him (especially walking in those shoes) Smile

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:17 pm

Game on. We'll see.

Quote:

Dear Commandant:

Thank you. I daresay it's about time you followed through.

So, what is next? I think I will talk with my travel agent about arranging a trip to Africa. I can make some side trips along the way to turn it into a nice vacation. What airport should I land at in your country? Can you meet me at the airport? I'm nervous about traveling in Africa alone.

Why shouldn't I keep [my fake lad] apprised of all this? After all, he has the main documents. I just sent him $20,000 last week for an updated anti-money laundering certificate. (So much time has passed that my previous one expired.)

I really want to get this concluded as quickly as possible. It is now approaching 5 years (!) since this all began and I am very frustrated. As I have said so many times, I am not interested in the $18.6M owed to my late husband, Ronald, I just need to close out his estate. Whatever money was owed to him I will give to charity. I don't need any more to live on, Ronald left me more than enough.

Anyway, enough of that. Please let me know the best time to schedule a trip and where we can meet.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:28 pm

May as well stir the pot and reinforce the reality of my character as a paying victim.

my fake lad wrote:

KEEEEEP OOOOOOOOOOOOOF MY MAGA SUAN OKAY .I HAVE WORK THIS WOMAN 4 OVER 4 YEARS AN I GET BIG BIG MONEY .BUT NOW I PREPAIR 2 GIV HER BILL FOR BIGEST JOB EVER .U R ONLY A NUISENCE 2 THIS END SO I ADVICE U TO GO SUCK UR OGAS COCK AN LIVE THIS JOB 2 ME .IS NOT EASY TO FIND MAGA WHO HAS MONEY AN IS READY 2 PAY SO U JUSS KEEP OFF AND LET REAL GUYMAN DO HIS JOB OK .I DON NEED NO SMALLBOI SON OF ASHAWO 2 FUCK UP GOOD JOB .

REMAIN BLESS

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 11 Jan 2014 Posts: 688

Be careful, he is obviously a Police Officer and will have special powers, not just Photoshop ones!

Baiting Guru Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 18312

Hilarious. Thank you, Juan!

I think I remember his previous photo attempt. Didn't it say "Ima is godes"? Laughing

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:32 pm

Looks real to me, I only see 5 fingers on each hand!

Looking forward to reading about he results of option #2....

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:36 pm

This was his first attempt at complying with my instructions:

I just realized this bait started much earlier than I thought. I looked into my emails and discovered that I first wrote to him on June 2, 2011. So it's been slogging along for over 2-1/2 years!

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:10 pm

Sure he might be Tenacious and Stupid but all in all he is one Snappy Dresser and that's gotta count for something.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:49 pm

Photoshop-boi totally bought my fake lad email. He wants to "copperate."

Quote:

BROS FROM 9JA WI ARE 1 I KNOW SEY U DON DI WORK DIS WOMAN FOR 4 YEARS NOW
BUT I DEY DI FIND NA MA OWN PEPE SO.WI ARE ALL BIG BOIS BUT DIS WORK NA CHOP I CHOP SO IF U BE WISE MAN ND LOVE DIS WORK THEN LETS COPPERATE AND WORK HER CAUSE SHE HAS TELL ME ALL ABOUT U AND I KNOW ALL ABOUT UU SO WHY DI MUMU? IT UR WORK AND I SWEAR I GO FIX DIS JOB 4 U BETTER OR I GO SPOIL THIS JOB......ME TOO NA BIG G I DI DEALL WITH GOLD AND DAIMOND SO I KNOW BIG JOB U HEAR MI WELL WELL CAUSE AM ALREADY IN THE JOB SO EITHER I FIX OR I SPOIL AM CAUSE SHE KNOWS AM [my character's late husband] FRIEND HERE IN CAMEROON SO U GET CHOISE IF I GET MA OWN I WIILL MAKE GOOD WAY FOR U CAUSE IS UR JOB CAUSE I BI BREAKER IN DAIMONDS.

STAY BLESS

Needless to say, given that my fake lad has been milking my character for hundreds of thousands of dollars over a 4-plus year period, he's not interested in sharing.

Quote:

IDIOT OF U ,WHY WULD I WANT 2 CORPORATE WIT SMALLBOI ? U R EVEN MORE STUUUUUUUUUUUPID DEN I THOUGHT .WHY U TINK I EVER WANT 2 SHARE WORK WIT A FOOL LIKE U ??? U R A MUMU U HAVE NO BRAIN .NA DIS WOMAN BI MINE SO KEEEEEEPPP OOOOOOFFFFFF COS I NO NEED 2 SHARE WIT NOBODY OKAY .

U ARE NOTING BUT EMPTY BALLON,IDIOT OF U BECAUSE I AM ALREADY A REAL GUYMAN OK .GO AND HUZZLE LIKE STREET BOYS OF UR TYPE ,I AM DI ONE GOD HAS BLESS IN THIS WORK OK . U R A MUGU OF THE HIGHEST ORDER . U NO GO EVER GROW, REACH UR MATES WHO RE BUSY MAKING MONEY N U BASTERD U NO GET WORK AT ALL. IDIOT LIKE U WHO NO GET SENSE . BIGGEST FOOL NA U BE. U DONE DIE ALEADY NOW

MY REGARD TO UR OSU FAMILY . NA DRUKARD IDIOT U CALL UR FARTHER NO BE U FATHER. OOOOO . CLIFFORD ORJI DON FORK UR URGLY MAMA N SHE GIVE AM BELLE SHE BORN U . HER TOTO DROWS LIKE OKRO SOUP SMELLING DAMN THING I WOUNDER HOW U COPE WIT ALL DE ODOUR FROM HER PUSSY .

I DEY FIND U I COME CUT U NECK CARRY DO RITUALS MAKE MUGUS PAY, OOOOOOO . U R CAUSED . U NO SEE CONTROL NUMER TIL YEAR 2050 . U PENIS NO B AM, E DON DECAY N NA WORK DEY WAKA INSIDE AM. NA BI SO?

BYE.

Meanwhile the lad wrote to my character, or more accurately, he sent an email with nothing in it. Question

I'll wait to write back, I want some time difference between fake lad and her.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:54 pm

^^^I like the way your fake lad says "No thank you". Laughing

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:47 pm

Juan Freizwidatt wrote:

he sent an email with nothing in it. Question

My normal response to that is either a blank email in return or ask him if he is really so stupid that he forgot to type anything.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:50 pm

Book yourselves each a room in one of my Hotels Cool

Link at top of my signature. Booking procedure is in the first Post of the Thread.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:55 pm

The Commandant finally got back to me:

Quote:

Dear madam,

Am sorry is the matter of time that is why i would prefer you give me your number cause not all the time i have acces to my mails okay,madam i told you is remaining just the 10,000$ for the supreme court and the minister of foreign affair to sign before i will sign to show that you will come when i have everything in hand okay.

you don't need to ask Mr. [fake lad] for this cause you are owner of the fund document not him

let me just ask why is he refusing your invitation here and still ask for money?

when are you paying the money so i get everything arrange before you come?

cause i know my country they are not ontime i want to get the money in hand so i make arrangement to see
these people their offices and conclude for the signature madam.

you can use this names to make the payment so i proceed with everything tomorrow

{LAD NAME}

once the payment is done i will confirm a day we can meet in Cameroon.

you have noting to worry about your security cause you are not the first,i have help
so many people of your country here so for you security count on me if you are single i will take good care of you

please you can still call me +237 xxxxx for more question

thanks very much and waiting to hear from you

Commandant.

Quote:

Dear Commandant:

It will be much simpler for me to make any needed payments when I am in Africa. I'm tired of sending a little money here, a little more, there, then another payment the next week, and so on. Let's just do it all at once and be finished once and for all.

You can call me at [my K7 number] but it would be easier if you just tell me when I should come so I can make arrangements with my travel agent. The sooner, the better.

Sincerely,
Susan

Ima was kind enough to record the greeting on my K7 line so at least when the lad calls, he'll get a woman's voice on the answering machine. I hope he spends a lot of money calling....

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:16 pm

Tenacious lad is really being tenacious. Laughing

Quote:

madam,
you
will not stay here forever for all time to wait for this ministers to be in their offices ok, 18.6m is not small money to be easy getting all when signature when you are here ok.
i dont want to waste your time coming here without me geting this important signatures ok. getting these signature showing your fund document is ready and legal for you ok, let me remind you this is personal,you dont need to ask [fake lad] cause that is why you have my picture madam.

just make the payment and everything will fine i assure

thanks and waiting
commandant.

Given that he is fully on board with my back story, I hold all the power in this bait. Not to mention the threat of my fake lad messing things up. He's going to have to give in and safari.

Quote:

Dear Commandant:

I will make the payment when I get there. It is much easier.

Let me know when is the best time to arrive in Cameroon. I will need to make plans and that takes some time.

Also, let me know if I should bring anything by way of gifts or money to facilitate things. I have read somewhere that some officials in Africa and Asia are slow to act unless they are bribed. I have spent too much time on this already, I want to settle this once and for all, as quickly as possible. If that means paying a bribe or two, so be it. I just want to be done with this. It has become an endless nightmare for me.

Mr. [fake lad] asked me to send him $10,000 as well, I have told him the same thing. I am tired of sending money and getting nowhere. I want to finish this face to face. I told him I am making arrangements with you to complete things. He was not happy about that and I'm afraid I have not heard the last of his complaints. Such is life. Let's just finish this.

Sincerely,
Susan

I love waving the prospect of gifts and cash in front of greedy lads. I wonder how many laptops and watches he'll ask for?

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:35 pm

Here you go Juan..you can use it next year. (Or I will.. Wink

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:03 am

Oh sure, outdo me and win the lovely Ima's affections!

Laughing

Good job, your lad is more compliant than mine.

I'm thinking that my fake lad will end up doing business with the real lad. It's one way to help get the lad on safari. He believes in both my character and my fake lad. For now my fake lad is upset, but sooner or later the reality that they need to "copporate" will come to the fore.

Quote:

U R FUCKING UP DIS JOB ASHOLE !! NAU MY MAGA SAY SHE WANT 2 COME HERE AND WONT PAY MY FEE UNTIL SHE COME CARRY .BASSTERD SMALLBOI U RUIN EVERTING .NA DIS WOMAN BI MINE SO DON SPOIL GOOD JOB OKAY .

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:09 am

^My baiting skills will have to grow quite a bit to match your's Juan...I'm still working on it.

Don't ban me..please!! But if you have to..it's worth it for Ima!

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:07 pm

Love he picture, as he is floating at least 2 feet off the ground and is wearing someone elses face as a mask.

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:32 pm

^ Shows what a kick-ass sorcerer the Lad is! Better not cross him lest he put a curse on you!

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:18 pm

Tenacious Lad finally got back to me. He is thick. I think this will be fun once he finally understands that he has to meet me in person.

Quote:

Dear Madam Susan,

Okay, if you will be making the payment of 10,000$ once you arrive here that will be fine,let me start by saying that you are not just like a bird that you will just come here like that madam,you will be here for a business of 18.6m$,you are coming here for your first time and is not just like you think over there in America madam.First i will need to reserve you a good hotel,get you a good and classic car and i will also need your accommodation fee,Cameroon has some good and nice places i will like you to visit,explore and have so many fun during this period of your vacation it will be your happiest vacation in your life.

[Your late husband] was not just a simple person in my country he was
one of the business men that had estates in Cameroon that worth 18.6M$ in Cameroon,when you are here i will present you to business men,ministers and colleagues that they knew your husband was a great man and had plans for Cameroon.

Madam the 10,000$ [fake lad] want you to send to him is what you promise to send to me immediately you receive my photograph but i did what you wanted and you never keep to your promise because [fake lad] is telling you not to pay the money and all for him self and you keep sending money to him without hesitating while i have been asking you
this 10,000$ now for about a year till now you haven't yet pay the money. [Almost 3 years, actually.] Laughing

That let me to be discourage,and thinking i should quite this issued and wait when [fake lad] have rip off your money then you will realize and come back to me

i want you to suprise [fake lad] to see if he has been doing a good job

DON'T TELL HIM ANYTHING ABOUT ME AND YOU.

you have not yet send me money to bribe this ministers or the supreme court for your document to be easy to sign and approve,don't think lawyers,or official that are going to handle your fund document will accept or receive bribe from you a white American woman,is not easy that is why all bribing or gift will be shared by me no one else.

i want to ask how long will you be here?

i want to know because all in total will cost you 12,000$

for everything you will need here madam

i will call you later to explain better

latest should be 11/03/2014

Commandant

He did call my K7 number but he apparently doesn't understand what an answering machine is. There was 40 seconds of background noise and some garbled conversation in French. At least he knows my phone is real, and a woman's voice is on the greeting.

Quote:

Dear Commandant:

From what you have just written it would appear evident that you have not read my previous emails. Allow me to make things more clear by spelling things out in detail yet again:

1.) I will not be sending any more money prior to my arrival in Cameroon. I am tired of these relentless payments. I will take care of any remaining payments when I get there. Please do not keep insisting. You are becoming as annoying as Mr. [fake lad], who is insisting that I not go to Cameroon and simply continue to work directly with him. I have made my decision and I will stick to it: I will conclude this business in person. Period.

2.) You do not need to make any reservations for me. With all due respect to your honorable self, I only have trust in my own travel agent when it comes to arranging for proper travel and accommodations. What I need from you is the following:
a.) When should I get there? Keep in mind I need 2-3 weeks to organize my plans.
b.) Where are you located?
c.) What airport should I plan to arrive at?
d.) Will you meet me at the airport personally?

3.) I need to know if I should bring any gifts (e.g. laptops, smart phones, Rolex watches, etc.) to help with any potential bribes that may be necessary to ensure that things move quickly and smoothly for the transfer of my late husband's funds.

My intention is to book a three week trip. I am assuming one week should be adequate to complete any business transactions. I will then spend one week visiting your beautiful country, and finally one week in Paris when I stop over to change plans on my return home. It has been far too long since I have visited Paris, I won't miss this opportunity since I have to pass through anyway.

I have tried to make this clear to both yourself and Mr. [fake lad]. He keeps pestering me not to come, you hardly ever respond to me and when you do it is clear you are not reading my emails. To be honest, you are both starting to annoy me. Things must change, and quickly. Now please get things organized.

Get back to me with all due speed with answers to my questions about when I should arrive and where you are located. I must start coordinating with my local travel agent ASAP.

Sincerely yours,
Susan

Tenacious Lad needs to learn that Sue is one tough bitch. He'll find that out soon enough...

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:43 pm

What a whiner. Rolling Eyes

Quote:

Dear Madam,

I understand you clearly word to word but you treating me like small boy or i can say like kid,
i have tried to give you a call but your phone will take me to your voice mail,am sorry if the is any delay but you have to get me clearly because me my self have give you enough confidence but yet you dont still trust in me i dont know why,when i have been taking to your orders and your intrsuction but you dont even want to listen to me with every word i say. Me my self i am getting sick of all this i don't even have a franc out of all this orders i have been taking you madam.

I deserve some respect from you both [fake lad], he has been taking money from
and now he don't want you to come then you still don't want to listen to me?

Madam if you will not pay me anything before coming then i will be on my own side i must confess to you

what have you bribe me for all this work? nothing.

if you want everything to go smoothly you will take to my instrruction because you are coming to my territory
so you will have to take to my command for your own security poppose.

thanks and try to understand me madam

commandant.

He apparently has yet to learn that Susan is the bitch-from-hell when she chooses to be. Fake lad knows this all too well. Sooner or later Tenacious Lad will buy himself a clue.

Quote:

Dear Commandant:

Excuse me? How dare you insult me! I thought you were a powerful, honorable man. You sound like a petulant, whiny little boy. And you are making a lot of demands. Let me remind you that this is MY fund we are talking about, inherited from my late husband. And when did I ever say I didn't trust you? I said nothing of the kind. If I didn't trust you I wouldn't even consider traveling all the way to your country. I am going there quite simply because I do trust you, and I need you to conclude this nightmare once and for all. Need I remind you that it has been well over four years since I first learned about my late husband's contract? Need I remind you how much money I have invested into all the legal and governmental requirements to conclude this? [I'm sure a reminder won't hurt!]

If you want to receive respect, you must earn it. You can start by answering my detailed questions so I can make arrangements to travel there at the earliest possible convenience.

And how dare you whine about how you have not gotten "even a franc" out of this, or complain about my not having bribed you? How insulting! I cannot believe you are overtly begging me for a bribe! This isn't about you getting money, it's about the finalization of a contract owed to my husband's estate.

Now listen to me once and for all: I will handle all these petty money issues that you seem to obsess about when I get there. I will bring you the bribe you are so obviously lusting for. Just tell me what you want. A watch? A phone? Cash? You will be amply rewarded for your service -- if you render such service. Until then, please do not bore me with complaints. I expect you to be a man of action, not a petulant whiner.

As for Mr. [fake lad], I am dealing with him in the same way so that is none of your concern.

And please note: I am a busy woman with an active life. I do not sit around next to my phone awaiting your call. If you happen to reach my voicemail, just leave a message. It is not rocket science, Commandant. It's really very simple.

Now, get back to me with answers to the questions I sent earlier today and stop whining. I am losing respect for you.

EDIT: this lad is thick as a brick. Sheesh. Now I remember why I dumped him after the first six months or so of my original bait.

Quote:

Dear Madam,

I have not insulted you but due respect and honor i have for you, i am consider here a big man and humble commandant,let me tell is just that i still consider your late husband Ronald like i will not email you again to be Sincerely madam. [Huh?]

can you remember when i ask you 10,000$ for the signature i was to get i as i told you it over a year now
since i have been talking to you about this but you never consider my word and you give me orders and ii follow them right to the extend of my photos but you don't want to pay for the signature i have to obtain, i don't know maybe you are not getting to understand me madam well i must say.

I am not begging for bribe it is your duty i dont see why i should be whining when i have a fund of such money.

you have promise to send this 10,000$ last year before sending so much money to [fake lad] and he keep asking for more when i just need only 10,000$ and everything will be fine.

I am willing to work if you will pay for anything i need cause that is your dutty because you are inheritance is part of the money he was owing for the fund document.

i am waiting to hear from you

commandant.

Quote:

Dear Commandant:

It appears that you continue to fail to read and comprehend my emails. Allow me to repeat myself yet again:

1.) I will not be sending any more money prior to my arrival in Cameroon. I am tired of these relentless payments. I will take care of any remaining payments when I get there. Please do not keep insisting. You are becoming as annoying as Mr. [fake lad], who is insisting that I not go to Cameroon and simply continue to work directly with him. I have made my decision and I will stick to it: I will conclude this business in person. Period.

2.) You do not need to make any reservations for me. With all due respect to your honorable self, I only have trust in my own travel agent when it comes to arranging for proper travel and accommodations. What I need from you is the following:
a.) When should I get there? Keep in mind I need 2-3 weeks to organize my plans.
b.) Where are you located?
c.) What airport should I plan to arrive at?
d.) Will you meet me at the airport personally?

3.) I need to know if I should bring any gifts (e.g. laptops, smart phones, Rolex watches, etc.) to help with any potential bribes that may be necessary to ensure that things move quickly and smoothly for the transfer of my late husband's funds.

Now let me make this abundantly clear since you cannot seem to get this through your thick skull:

-- I will NOT be sending any more money from here, whether to yourself or Mr. [fake lad]
-- I will ONLY make necessary payment(s) in person, when I arrive in Cameroon

Is that clear enough for you? Please do not make me say it again. This is becoming extremely tiresome. Both you and Mr. [fake lad] are making me angry with your constant whining. Please go back and re-read this email from the beginning, and read it as many times as you need to until you finally understand that I will ONLY finalize this in person, face to face. Period. End of quote. No further discussion. It is just that simple. This has been going on for far too long. I want this finished. I will do what it takes to finish it, meaning that I am going to Cameroon to do it in person. End of discussion.

Now get back to me with answers to questions about when to get there and exactly where to go. But DO NOT ask me to send money prior to my visit. It will not happen.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:26 pm

I love what you're doing, JF Smile

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