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carrottshampoo83
Not quite a Newb

Joined: 03 Mar 2009
Posts: 41

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Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:32 pm |
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Has anyone else had this outcome? I sent probably 70 emails last night by ASEM. Only about 28 of them bounced back as unsent. However I only got 1 response back? My new character is a lesser known porn star as I've noticed they seem to have a lot of fun with these guys. But anyone had this small of a response before?
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Tuco
Elite Baiter

Joined: 08 Aug 2007
Posts: 1072
Location: On a desert safari.

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Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:37 pm |
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One modality that I kept track of had a 3.5% initial response rate. I usually figure ahead of time that 1% will be the norm. |
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"you should understand my brain problem." - R0se Br0wn
"you are a very ungreatful and wicked person." - Veronica K0ffi
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mewing_ghecko
lad harasser

Joined: 28 Mar 2008
Posts: 1549
Location: I was born and raised in... oh look something shiny

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Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:46 pm |
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yes, that is the nature of the beast for asem's.
as part of the M00seknuckle bait, we've sent thousands of mass emails. it's why we get so excited when we get a lad actually interested in our proposals.
the success rate improves as you refine your initial email so the lads are hooked from the beginning.
if you post what you're sending, others here may be able to help you refine it for better success. just a thought. |
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"fuck u and that of your company".
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"FUCK YOU".
"I know person like you fucking scammer".
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"You are nothing but a crook and a liar,how could you send a fake transfer receipt to me and think that you can fool me".
M00seknuckle co-bait Mrs ldris, Abidjan to Cotonou P3ter x2, Nigeria to Cotonou, Warri to Abuja
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carrottshampoo83
Not quite a Newb

Joined: 03 Mar 2009
Posts: 41

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Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:53 pm |
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I had such success with a simple 'I'm confused can you explain better' but I wanted them to be even more desperate so I sent:
I read what you were saying and yes I have plenty of money but I don't quite understand... Can you please tell me more about how to get the money to you?
Thanks,
Bri7n3y F05ter
And I only got one response???
No need to mask your response. No lad is going searching for it. JMR |
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SlapHappy
Baiting Guru

Joined: 15 May 2006
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Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:11 pm |
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Maybe it's because they don't mention money (their fees) in their first email. Just a thought. Could be.  |
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Tuco
Elite Baiter

Joined: 08 Aug 2007
Posts: 1072
Location: On a desert safari.

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Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:18 pm |
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They are initially trying to focus your interest on their money. You don't have to volunteer ahead of time that you have money. If you reside in the developed world, they already figure that you do. |
_________________ "My broda. i like ur guts it shows u are a full guy." - Williams H0lm
"you should understand my brain problem." - R0se Br0wn
"you are a very ungreatful and wicked person." - Veronica K0ffi
"Thanks for giving me a nauthy number that preys unit like a hungry lion." - Alise Kar1m
"I have called you more than 20 times but non of the calls went through." - Williams C0ker
"I've said in my previous mail that I do not understand English." - Cabinet Bad0u
"PLEASE MY CHAIRMAN, I AM NOT GREEDY, I LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU, I HAVE LOST MANY OF MY JOBS , PLS PLS PLS, I WILL WORK HARD WITH U." - Dr. Lui$ James
"There are two kinds of people in the world, my friend."
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carrottshampoo83
Not quite a Newb

Joined: 03 Mar 2009
Posts: 41

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Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:51 pm |
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lmao Tuco that was just a funny way of putting it 'reside in the developed world' I figure I'll just grab a couple from the Surplus forum and email them before I goto work. I have 'Gmail mobile' on my phone so I can respond straight from their haha. I'll leave money out of my next ASEM I just figured this would be good for those lads who were wanting to take over a 'stupid person' transaction haha |
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Cachuma
Baiting Guru

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 2284
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Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:15 pm |
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It helps if you try to think like a real vic, and model your ASEM over what a real vic might respond back to a standard scam script. What works well for me is a simple, "I don't know why you sent me this email. Can you explain this more? I don't really understand." That's probably closer to what a real vic would write.
Lads know there are "jokers" out there...and if you start right off by telling them you've got lots of money, they'll probably assume you're a joker. |
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carrottshampoo83
Not quite a Newb

Joined: 03 Mar 2009
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Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:03 pm |
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Hmmm tried a non-money asem too with same results could it be the email address? ?? She's a pornstar but maybe the address is giving me away? |
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mewing_ghecko
lad harasser

Joined: 28 Mar 2008
Posts: 1549
Location: I was born and raised in... oh look something shiny

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Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:48 pm |
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why do you want to send asem mails to hundreds of lads?
if it matters, send this in mass mail on occasion, works fairly well..
I KNOW UR SECRETS ---- UR A MUGU OF THE HIGHEST ORDER
UR FATHER WAS A GBOMOGBOMO WHO DO RITUALS AT OKIJA SHRINE FOR MONEY. BUT HE GOT NO AMU AFTER GETTIN IT CHEEWED OF BY A GAYMAN IN DA CAFE. NA SO?
UR MAMA WAS PROPPER ASHAWO AT DEY SHORT TIME JOINTS IN FEGE-ONITSHA. DOG NA HORSE DEY FUCKIN UR MOMMA BUT UR FUCKIN MOMMA TOTO DEY TOO WIDE & DEEP. UR MAMA HAVE GONORIHA. HER TOTO STINK LIKE ROTED PIG ON ROAD. IT BE SMELLING UP NAIJA. NO BI?
UR A IIDIOT MUMU N LOVE TO SUCK THE AMUS OF DEAD GOATS N LITTLE BOYS IN SMALL VILLAGES IN BENIN. U R A LADYBOY WIT DEY HIV. IIDIOT LIKE U CANOT MAKE ONE NAIRA FROM THIS BUSINESS. MUGU LIKE U. U WILL DIE A CHURCH RAT N TRUCK PUSHER
GOD WILL PURNISH YOUR WHOLE GENERATION U OSU. A MAD MAN WILL PREGNANT UR JUNIOR SISTER AND THE BABY WILL BE A MAD BASTARD LIKE U |
_________________ "nice try you want to spam my box asshole"
"fuck u and that of your company".
"ASSHOLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"FUCK YOU".
"I know person like you fucking scammer".
"FUCK YOU ASHOLE".
"fuck off" Mr Fr@nk Ch@ka
"You are nothing but a crook and a liar,how could you send a fake transfer receipt to me and think that you can fool me".
M00seknuckle co-bait Mrs ldris, Abidjan to Cotonou P3ter x2, Nigeria to Cotonou, Warri to Abuja
x? (only Alan knows)
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carrottshampoo83
Not quite a Newb

Joined: 03 Mar 2009
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Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:44 am |
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Ivana
Master of Master Baiters

Joined: 29 Sep 2008
Posts: 852
Location: Beautiful Hot Springs

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Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:54 am |
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yeah - I have to say that rant was pretty impressive (and graphic)  |
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x2 Lagos to Benin city - kelvin (thanks again OD !!!) ongoing bait
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"that i might be talking with an antichrist" - Kelvin
"thanks for all your effort witch never prove positive" - kelvin over m7cn s3cur3
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"i even had a sleepless night because of it" - 2nd lad, m7cn again
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AL1VE
419Eater is my life

Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:34 pm |
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Try making it sound like you already have a confirmed deal with another lad.
'I'm going ahead with the transaction like we agreed. What do you want me to do with the remaining $50,000? Please let me know. I would like to get my inheritance claim sorted out as soon as possible.'
^^Pretty sure something like that will get you responses. Feel free to chop away at that 50k until its all gone  |
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JMRazor
Baiting Guru

Joined: 03 Mar 2006
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Location: Yes

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Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:37 pm |
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It's also worth mentioning that lads don't really read what you say -- you have to get them off script (for the most part) and paying attention before you can really get them to react. They are looking just to keep the scam moving, which means sending you stock emails, in order, until you pay.
So, to get their attention, you have to do more than just say you have lots of money -- as noted, they already expect that (at least relative to them). You have to give them a reason to pay special attention to you as opposed to the dozens of other emails they get on a daily basis. |
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