Bob, RJ and Rachel vs Tony and Larry - The bait continues!

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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:37 pm

Tony, to Mr Johnson, wrote:

thank you i do bot my phone here does not have video if only that i could have done is i m still strangely believe that you still want that to be i thank God that you do not lost your money if you do how will you going to forgive this??

i have done with all my sorry to you my apologize to see how sorry i m i was hurt due what happened and all i work to see that all thing goes successfully which you know Sir. yes any body can wrote that but i m writing this in personal i Tony C. i am pleading to you Sir i am sorry if i do have video camera i could done that which you ask my phone do not have it.

i want you sir to find place in your heart to tell me that you expect it please there is one provable that said when a Father beat his child with left hand he will use his right Hand to clearing to his child teas. please sorry for what happened i promise he would happen again i want to work with you.

Oh, Tony, you automatically fall into lies so easily!

We know from all the EXIF data from his pictures that he has used a Lumia 625 and a Lumia 930. The 625 is from the pictures he sent to Rachel. The 930 was used for his very recent research trip pictures.
Even if we assume that he got an associate to do the research trip (which I hope is not true, because then there are excess safari helmets in three people's sig lines) and that he still has his Lumia 625 THAT phone can still take video recordings. (The 930 definitely can.)

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony,

I read your email and I was very, very disappointed in what you wrote.
If we are to re-establish trust and co-operation, we need to be 100% truthful to each other and no trying to pull the wool over each other's eyes.
If you used your phone to take the pictures of your research trips then I KNOW your phone can do video recordings. Please don't lie to me about this any more. Every lie you tell kills your soul a little piece.
As I said, we need to be truthful. Your porky-pies about what your phone can do are not a good way to restart our relationship.

Have a think about the matter, my good man, and then come back to me with nothing but the truth. Okay?

regards,
RJ

I don't want to say how I know for certain his phone is capable of video-recording unless he pushes me into revealing the undeniable evidence so I start off just calling out his lies.
For now, anyway. I feel he's going to be insistent that he won't record a video and will continue with the lies about his phone.

EDIT: As I was making this post, I get another email from Tony.

Tony wrote:

Sir. i m not lying to you oh my God i have to find how i will do it i could see that is why i said that

As I start to write my reply, he sends yet another email!

Tony wrote:

and i forget to tell you that i have great lost my sister in car accident Last week all this make to be total confuse

Oh. Oh indeed. Is this true? What would he gain by lying about this kind of thing? RJ's sympathy, perhaps, but it's a strange thing to invent to avoid having to use his phone's video camera.

Anyway, I continue to write my reply and decide to ignore that particular email for now.

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony,

I understand you may not know how to do a video recording, but that is no excuse to lie and say your phone can't do such a thing.

I might be in mt 50s, Tony, but I'm not stupid, and I do know a few things about these computer things that are all over the place these days. I can look at your splendid pictures from a few weeks ago and there is informations in the picture that tells me exactly what phone was used for each picture. A Lumia 930 was used for those pictures. A Google search for "Lumia 930" will show me that this phone CAN do video recordings.

So, please drop all attempts to lie to me. I am not an idiot. I did not get to be a billionaire by being stupid.

regards,
RJ

I'm determined to stop at least one of his lies, the one I know is definitely false.

Tony wrote:

yes that is truth i m not giving you any excuse if i done want to work with you i should have apologizing for what happened i have to take that in many ways which i could find how to do it i want you to understand me sir. when i priest video i can see anything of record i have tried to hear vice still not now i am still trying it i am really confuse!!

Aha! So it's his inability to use his phone properly, not the fact the phone can't do video recordings. Why didn't he just say that at the start?

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony,

That's much better, I feel I am reading some truth from you now. You should have started with those exact words telling me that you can't get the video recording to work, not to say that your phone can't do it. If I look at reviews of your phone (on YouTube, for example) it tells me that it can do video recording. So imagine my disgust when you write and tell me it can't! Unbelievable!
But okay, I will accept that you don't know how to operate it yet. It should be easy enough to find out, though, right? Search on the internet, man! I hear that you can find out every piece of information you need somewhere on the internet these days. What a world we live in!

I also received your email about your sister. I am sorry to hear that. Tell me more, if you are up to it. Sometimes, we men need a friend just to tell all about our stresses and worries. I am always here, Tony, if you need me for that purpose. Remember: I will always read anything you write so long as it is truthful.

Hoping you work out your phones video camera, and looking forward to your future emails.

Keep your spirit up, my friend.

regards,
RJ

I imply he can give me more details about his sister's alleged death. More details means I can check for inconsistencies to see if it's true or not.

Tony wrote:

alright i will do that thank you

My hint is ignored.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:01 pm

Otterfan wrote:

What a strange reaction everyone seems to have to anyone who tries to understand a lad as a human being with feelings, motivations beyond money, etc. But note: Empathy does not mean sympathy.

Not on my part. Quite the opposite. If you think the lad is being REAL in his dealings with your character, then (although I may disagree that he truly loves her), I say then it could be best to drop him .. because in this situation he is being a real human being, and not just acting as a criminal.

Of course criminals are human too! That's why in most countries we treat them humanely. Their victims hate them, but they are also loved by some or many other people.

And they hope and they dream, and they have full lives.

Criminal is not all they are. Ask their friends, ask their neighbours, ask their families.

Ask their victims, and that is something else....

Siblings in car/motorbike accidents is quite common with romance lads and some other lads too. Occasionally so they can mention hospital bills, but more often, in my experience, for no apparent reason at all. They must expect some kind of (cultural) response, but I'm not sure what that is.

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:05 am

Sorry gang as I don’t want to hijack this thread even though it seems to have gone a bit sideways as of late; no matter what the characters are busy doing.

Otterfan Wrote:

Quote:

What a strange reaction everyone seems to have….

Actually I don’t find it strange at all unless strange in your World is having people giving you excellent advice and even ‘more better’ showing you that they care about your emotional well-being. I tell all of my Mentees and anyone within earshot something similar to what I have read here and that is “If you are in any way uncomfortable in what you are doing then drop it immediately.”

Strange? Maybe BUT in reality this community stepped up and addressed your concerns without being judgemental AND that is the main reason I hang around here (ok the free Chicken Wings are a nice Bonus too).

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:20 am

^^^ I referred to it as "strange" because even though my post could have been read as feeling sympathy for Tony, I never actually explicitly said such a thing (because why would I? I'm not feeling that way).

It was the automatic leap from my trying to understand him as not just a cartoon villain, much deserving of being every baiter's punching-bag, but rather as a human being with deeper motivations, to having sympathy for him. That connection is what took me by surprise: I wasn't revelling in lad-pain so therefore I must be getting too involved emotionally? No! That's not at all what I wanted to get across!

Believe me, I am still (after having seen lighten_up's alternative characters being drawn into Tony's scams) as disapassionate about his feelings being hurt as anyone else here has claimed to be. That doesn't mean I can't study him and dissect his character with extreme interest, though.

Elite Baiter Joined: 28 Mar 2015 Posts: 1916

^^ Well, just to remind you, Otterfan, empathy and dispassion are mutually exclusive. The reason why I would have had to stop baiting Tony as your Rachel character was that I had developed for too much empathy for him - not forgetting that sympathy is a byproduct of empathy - and that to continue to do so would not only have been extremely uncomfortable for me, but something which I would considered to be extremely cruel, in the light in which I was seeing him.

Yet, you have continued to do so, dispassionately, as you say, whilst at the same time accusing others in the community of lack of empathy and viewing scammers as two dimensional cardboard cut-outs, to paraphrase. Yet, you speak of studying and dissecting a man's character with extreme interest. Is he then, nothing more than a lab rat?

You can't have it all ways.

ETA

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:56 am

^^^ I think maybe I'm using "empathy" in my own way here. I don't know what the proper word would be so to avoid confusion, my definition (and I'm not saying this is how everyone should use it, just that in lieu of the right word I'm using "empathy" as a shorthand for what I mean): Getting inside someone's thinking to understand the motivations, the feelings, the thought processes, with, as I said, a detachment that stops me sliding into sympathy (which I'm using here to mean "actually experiencing those feelings, thoughts, etc, as if they were my own").

Does that make sense?
(Stupid language, doesn't always carry across what we have in our heads!)

But yes, perhaps I am treating Tony as a lab rat. But a lab rat that has human feelings and emotions that anyone else might have. And I want to understand his particular collection.

And I think I've gotten quite near to that. I don't see him just as "a lad" and think he's only motivated by greed---which several people have told me is all he really cares about because, apparently, he's ultimately going to ask Rachel for money somehow, and for that reason I should throw as much pain at him as possible. There's that "cartoon villain" thing I was referring to. He's more complicated than that, as we all are, because he's scamming one bunch of characters and has dropped all demands and offers of money and valuable goods from another group.

I'm willing to "punish" (horrible word but what can you do, huh?) him for his scamming, but I want to understand and examine his gentler feelings towards Rachel and his deferential eager-to-please feelings towards RJ.
To me, that is having it both ways.

Elite Baiter Joined: 28 Mar 2015 Posts: 1916

^^ Actually, what you are describing as sympathy is an almost perfect definition of empathy.

Understanding, in a dispassionate way, what makes someone tick could better be described as psychological analysis.

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:05 am

^^^ Okay! I'll use that phrase instead. Thanks.

Elite Baiter Joined: 28 Mar 2015 Posts: 1916

^^^ Welcome. Very Happy

Wyoming Double Glazed Joined: 11 Mar 2016 Posts: 367

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zsN3xMMNqg

Moving on...

I continue to bait DHL Larry with my other character and will post that next..

For now Bob contacts Tony working on a better relationship and saying Bob could call him soon

bob wrote:

How are you doing this great and wonderful Monday? Did you get to Church yesterday? I don't get to go much since the nearest church is 100's of mile away.. I sometimes got out into woods and pray..

Anyways, Have you heard back from Mr Johnson since you sent your words of apology? I have heard nothing from him on my end except a few words here and there.. Nothing about the trip.. He seems to be still upset about the whole thing.

I am not sure I told you.. I got my hearing aids in and fitted.. I am still trying to get used to them but it's just plain amazing what I can here now. Did you know it's been years since I have heard BIRDS!.. i mean i could hear you if you were talking right at me but I couldnt hear someone if they turned away from me.. It was so frustratigin.. NOW i can hear the whole conversation!.. Its just amazing. Did you know how loud Crickets are at NIGHT? !.. I completely forgot..

Well, maybe we can talk on the phone soon.. I would like to get your side of all the going on with the failed trip and this Rachel girl.. I might give you a call in a couple days..

His response was interesting..

Tony wrote:

Mr. Bob. i fine not i didn't gone to church due to i m not feeling fine i have some malaria in my body due to over stress but i really thank GOD for today that i am getting little better today.

Yes i am being talk with him over couple of days now I JUST one to see that everything goes really like i plaited it and uwant to be sure that everybody be happy once again. Mr. please how did you met mr Johnson and start working with him? and what is in Poisson in government like you said his a government Man.i m a poor boy here i dont want to put myself any any problem were i am trying to work with sum one that will be tracking for what i dot know please explain to me.?

So here is what I got.
1) he is sick with malaria from stress!
2) He wants to make Johnson trip back on
3) He wants to know how I met RJ and if G-Man!

Bob wrote:

I am so sorry to hear you are sick. Have you gone to the doctor? What medicines are you on.

I am So pleased that you and Mr Johnson. Mr Johnson and I are finally back talking.. I am embarrassed to say he made me send me a apology via my phone camera thing.. Lucky Rebecca could help (she is my girl friend.. I cant remember if i told you about her).. I hope mentioning her does not cause you pain after your recent breakup with your bird..

Back to your questions.. I met Mr Johnson about 15 years ago.. You know that I have a fishing & hunting guide service, well many years ago he came in for a 2 week fishing trip.. I guess he had a great time that year. He came back that fall for a bear hunt.. Well, he bagged a monster of a bear.. What great fun.. He shipped the whole bear back to England.. I didn't even know that was possible with customs and all but he did it.. He had the "laddie", his name for the beast, stuffed standing 10 feet tall (over 3 meters) and he told me its in his office behind his desk!.. Ha.. looks like a giant body guard for him while he is sitting at his desk!.. Maybe he will send you a picture one day if you ask him! (your welcome OFan! Laughing

)

After that he came back year after year.. or more like every couple months, then he had me started planning adventures around the world. South America, States, Australia , Africa and much more. Mr Johnson has been very good to me -- if you know what I mean.

What is this about him being in the government? He has never worked for anyone let alone a government.. I am not sure where you heard that from.. Are you sure you have that correct?

well Rebecca is hear looking for her dinner.. Ha.. I promised her I would cook tonight..

So we decided he was trying to ensure the Video that RJ wants, is not a "Trap".

Tony wrote:

no that i head it from any were i just ask if he is do understand no body tells me i m the one that ask if he is, because you are the one that name me to know him you know i can ask him that such question.

i wish i could see his picture do you have any? i want to know him as my boss because i love the way his talk his email Shocked

have valued i will appreciate to see his picture . well i m get quick health now i thank God (whew-malaria was the minor variety) .

Wyoming Double Glazed Joined: 11 Mar 2016 Posts: 367

This post is about my re-bait of DHL-larry with my other character AK.

On Saturday AK , a ships cook, landed in Poland and was trying to pay Larry via MG. When AK got to Moneygram office AK called Larry as AK promised. (played by Todarobrontolon, since I didn't want Larry to recognize my voice). It was about 6pm Larry's time but it sounded like we work him up!.. After several minutes AK handed the phone off to Poland MG clerk, played by Duckling.

Big shout out to Both Duckling and Todarobrontolon for helping. They both were great!

So Duckling tore this scammer a new one and Lad finally hung up! AK called lad back and lad told him to do Transfer when AK got back the following days..

I tried to record this on my phone but all you could hear was wind and my breathing (i sounded like Dark Vader) Embarassed

Monday I got this from lad

Lad wrote:

I hop that you are back like you said? Good to hear from that and how is your weekend?

However write the information give you down and take it to any money gram and give them instruction to send the payment to the name because I can [not] be answering call anyone who wanted to know the content of your parcel.

I told him I was too tired to do it Monday but would Tuesday..He said several times to write down info and not to call him!

He asked for status of payment this morning. so I sent!

AK wrote:

I want you to know!.. I AM NOT HAPPY!. What did you say to that Money gram clerk in Poland?!!.. You have made this very hard for me.. I was kicked out of Moneygam office yesterday.. they called me a scammer!.. why? They said complaint from MG office in Poland has blocked me from Money gram office for 90 days!.. They say they have notified other wiring services too! What did you say? I thought this was legal and good?

I would have called you yesterday to have you try to work it out with Moneygram office but you SAID DONT CALL!.. plus you probably woudl just screw it up more.. I am so upset at you!

Why did you make this so hard?

blame the lad blame the lad..

Quick response!

Lad wrote:

... when you called me in Poland i didn't said anything wrong to the young man in Poland i cut off the phone because he wanted to know more information abut your parcel i am afraid of him because his question look suspension to me i thought his one of the hacks i mention to you before.

i don't know that he will such thing to block your name i wish i hard his number i could have ask him why because i didn't tell him our give him any information abut your package which i am afraid to give out because he keep asking me the content of your parcel. then i cut off which i told you there. did he said that i do any thing wrong??...

the young Man in Poland is one off the divert we have be trying to stop why should i give him someone package information he it the owner? no

then you can go to western Union with the information just look for it. i am sorry Sir. ...

20 mins laters.. he sends..

Lad wrote:

i have tried to call you (that number is no good Laughing

) to explain that to you which you phone is no allocated if you can tried to call me good but i do want you to know that your parcel here in this office is 10% legal (proof) Laughing

that is why i told you to be at home before dispatching your parcel to you. i only trying to protect your package like i told you on phone.

my advice is to located western union because they are another online transfer too let me know what you suggest i m sorry for that not need for you to be upset to me im at your service we are the some. so please do understand it

western union is good too pick the information visit them field the form and give it to them what ever they met ask you tell them yes we have see or you know what to tell them to avoid acting like the young man in the Poland which tring to know or hack your delivery so please. thank you i waiting to hear from you soon.

This Larry is starting to sound/type a lot like Tony!

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:42 pm

Glad to see that Larry has had the decency to apologize to AK.

Western Union? What is that? He will need to explain in great detail. Very Happy

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:26 pm

So, Tony continues to communicate with RJ. I'm still waiting for a video apology, and last time we'd spoken he was saying that the video capability on his phone was not working correctly.

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony, you fine fellow!

How goes everything in your part of the world? I hope everything is swinging and singing the joys of life.

How did your weekend go? Mine was amazing. Played 6 chukkas of polo with my favourite horse. Scored a few goals myself, and my team devastated those rotters from Norwich we were playing against. They had to buy drinks in the bar afterwards and I quaffed a lot of Chateau Margaux. Delicious stuff! Ever tried it, Tony? You should! It is blissful heaven on the tongue.

Have you managed to work your phone yet? I'll give you a few days to get that sorted out, okay? Rome wasn't built in a day, after all!

We never got very far with organizing a trip to Obudu, did we? I'm fascinated by the place. Yes, it's all glossy and touristy, but it might be what I am looking for after all. Bob Goss and I have had so many trips to all the four corners of the globe, and each one has been some out-in-the-wild adventure. Lots of fun, sure! But sometimes, I wonder what it would be like to visit somewhere and be in relative comfort and luxury.
Let me know your thoughts on Obudu, and I'll see what's what when you get back to me.

Write back soon, my good man.

regards,
RJ

Three days later, still no reply.

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony, my fine fellow!

How are you today? You've been quiet and that's not like you! I hope everything is fine with you.

Let me know how you are.

regards,
RJ

That does the job!

Tony wrote:

Sir. i m sorry not to hear from you over Sunday evening i was on sick Malaria pins cold allover my body just get little bit better now. i m sorry that you have been wait to hear from me and you are nece to me thank you Sir. that is why i been past thought over since sunday.

I thank God for get better today.

Malaria? Well, I guess that's an acceptable excuse.

Tony wrote:

Good morning Sir.

how are you doing Sir. i m ok now

thank Your Sir.

Tony

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony, you rascal!

So glad to hear you're okay now. Never had malaria myself but when I was traversing the Great Wall of China, my native guide suffered terribly from it. I learned what it's like then.

How are you getting on with working your phone? Can I expect a video soon? Hope so!

Stay healthy, my good man!

regards,
RJ

Tony wrote:

thank you Sir i m okey now as for the phone not yet sir i want to know i jsu have some few thing to ask please do not get me wrong, sir since have been ruing around for this trip one i do not know that person i am work for 2 if any one ask me how dues he look like which i can not tell. and no one have ever called our give encouragement on phone due to my mind tell me to keep it up. how can i tell person that i dont know who i m dealing with over a month now.

i m have been doing it with faith he look like sum how i have to know who i m work for please don't misunderstand me i dont know you and i dont know Bob i keep going with my faith. so let me believer that i am work for the man who i talking with please i want to know.
thank you sir

Tony wrote:

i m afraid because i didn't know whom i mine work for i want to know and whom i going to i love t be with you as long as i m fellowing your email instruction i like allover your mail to me yes i do one problem is that i haven't see your or any off your picture.

like you ask of the Obudu like i said i haven't been there bffore but i called someone who told me abut there is like he have been there before but i am not sure if he have been but due to what he explain to me.
Thank you sir.

Tony

He's asking for a photo of RJ? Hmmm. I actually don't have any so I'll have to ignore that request and see if he forgets about it.
However, the part where he refers to himself as "working for" RJ is encouraging.

Tony wrote:

Dear. Sir. Good day to you . i havent hear from you few days now i hop all is well with you Sir?

At this point, I thought I was actually suffering from malaria myself! For a week I had been shivering uncontrollably and feeling really bad. Fortunately, it's gone now but when it was there I had no desire to reply to any emails.

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony, good man!
Sorry for being quiet with you.Sometimes, my business takes all of my day. These past few days have been frantic!

How are you now? Is your malaria gone? I do hope so.

regards,
RJ

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony, my dear fellow!

It's the weekend at last and I think I have put all of last week's business behind me and I can get on with life. Hurrah for that, yes?

So, I read several of your recent emails again last night, and I woke up this morning after they had obviously tumbled around my head for 8 hours. I came to the conclusion that I have been failing to do something really important here. Silly me! I have been failing to ask what YOU are willing to do for me! Instead of me asking you to do things without knowing all of your skills, weaknesses, strengths, boundaries, and so on. Obviusly, there are limits to a chap's abilities, and who better to know them than the man himself!

So my question to you, Tony, is this: What do you want to do and what are you are willing to do for me?

regards,
RJ

Another thing that was making me even less willing to check this email account was the monotonous tone that our conversations had developed. I didn't have any goal to work towards, so I decided to ask Tony what he was willing to do for me. You know, since he is now working for me!

Tony wrote:

Good Morning Sir.

i was wondering abut you not hear from for quite few days now because your mail make me to feel stranger. Sir in your question i m willing to do anything good that you ask me i never failed you since i been fellowing you for the trip you are the one that give me hope i do all thing you told me with faith.

i really appriciate your email to me i am grateful with you. Sir

Oh, really?

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony!

Just a quick note, my good friend, to let you know I got your email. Don't worry if I don't reply to it until tomorrow. Probably afternoon, if I know how things go.

I'm off to spend this splendid afternoon on the fairways, hoping to get some practice in before the competition next week where I hope to get my handicap down to something respectable. It's so high at the moment, I daren't even admit to what it is!

Keep on being you, my fellow.

regards,
RJ

Tony wrote:

Dear.Sir I got your mail it was do nice to me. How is your family? And your Sunday. And I use this medium to wish you happy new month I thank Almighty GOD for keeping us alive to see the beginning of the month it will bring healthiness in your life all members of family.

Sir thank you and I m waiting for your instructions and I will be happy once again to see you in person sir. And it's been quiet long I have hard from Mr. Goss. I hop his is going well because I over some weeks now.

Thank you once again.

Tony.

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony, my man!

Good to hear from you again. So pleased your malaria is not causing you bother this week. Like I said before, I saw what it can do to a fellow when I was in China. Terrible thing indeed.

My family? Doing well, sir, doing well. Unfortunately, my wife, Josephine, is unable to have children and so there are none of those in my immediate family, but I do have two wonderful nieces from my sister's marriage. I treat them like my own children. Within reason, of course! Wouldn't want to keep them away from their proper parents!
As for my Sunday, like I told you, I spent the afternoon and the evening practising my swings on the fairway for the competition I'm in next week. The prize money is a mere £1 million so it's not that important to me. What is important is that I get a chance to see how I stack up against the experts!

How are things with you, Tony? I don't know a lot of your background, your family life, and so on. Tell me anything you want, sir! IF we are going to carry this relationship forward, it's only right that I know a few more things about you, yes?

I agree that Bob Goss is a bit quiet recently. He and I used to email a lot, sometimes daily, but these last few weeks he's been more quiet. I heard he's got some young chick that's keeping him occupied a lot. Rebecca, I think her name is. From what I hear, she's a third of his age. What an old dog, he is! Must admit, there's some jealousy there, but if things came down to the line, I wouldn't be unfaithful to my Josephine or trade her in for a younger model. No, sir, not likely!
Perhaps Bob Goss is feeling sorry about that to-do with your girl, yes? I still don't know the full details, and perhaps never will, but maybe he feels foolish over everything that happened? I don't know, that's just me guessing, though.

Worked out how to use your phone camera yet, Tony? Nothing like a challenging project to keep a man entertained and his hands away from the silverware, as they say!

regards,
RJ

I'm still feeling a bit under the weather so I make an excuse for not being so active during the following week.

Tony wrote:

Sir. Your email med me to feed sad about your wife childless I m not feeling good for that only God is our helper I will be putting you and your wife in prayer, you are nice Man.

for my malaria I m getting better only that one is evening I feel too much cold but I'm taking drugs for it.

about me I brought in very poor family and my farther have late he dead in very long time ago and my mum she in my village strangle for life also with here but God is our straight. That is a few to say.

for the phone I m not yet done that but still in my mind to do that. I wish I have money I could have come to see you and watch you win your competition I wish you all the best for the competition may Our Almighty GOD be with and make you a winner amen.

I m happy to be honest in you email to you thank you sir

Tony wrote:

Dear. Sir. how are you doing? you keep quite salient i hope all is well with you Sir.? ok maybe you ware buy i will wait to hear from you my regard to you and your family.

Thank you Sir

Tony

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony!

My apologies, but I have been busy all this week with my golf competition. Final round is tomorrow! Can't say I'm too proud of my position but as I said before, I'm looking at this as practice against the professionals.

I'll get back to you when everything is over.

regards,
RJ

Tony wrote:

Sir. i m happy for your poison in that game and i prayer may God be with because you have good heart anything you does be prosperity . i will be waiting to hear the Good news from you how you win it yes

thank you sir

Tony

My poison? I won't be winning it if I'm poisoned, Tony!

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony, good morning!

Well, I didn't do wonderfully in the golf competition last week, but as I've said, this is the first time I've entered a competition against the professionals and the experts. Out of a starting 50 people, two dropped out (for personal reasons), leaving 48 contestants. I came in at number 37. I wasn't last! I fully expected I would be but I managed to get some positions. That completely astounded me, let me tell you!
I think I mentioned before that I wasn't in it for the money---the prize was just £1million---and wanted to get the experience of a professional competition. It was splendid, the whole thing!
Maybe next time I will be less intimidated by the big names competing against me and will get a higher place. Maybe!
You should have been there, cheering me on, ha! Wonderful weather over here, too. Not too warm but warm enough to make it memorable.

How is your quest to get your phone's camera working? I thought phones these days were meant to be easy to use.

regards,
RJ

Yay for RJ!

Tony wrote:

I wish so to be there as one of your fans and refresh with the
Wonderful weather over there see the Wonderful Man with Good heart I
have been talk with..

Abut that phone yes I do that but he can’t record vice only video I
cant hear any vice with it I have to take back to them I don’t know
what thy did to it really don’t know. I will go there today.

My regard to your Wonderful family Thank you Sir.

Tony

Good news on the phone front, what?

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony, my good man!

So good to read your words again. I'm back to normal now here, now that the golf competition has finished.

There are two things---"projects" if you wish to call them that---we have outstanding between us.
The first is your phone camera. I'm glad to read you have made some progress on that front. Let me know when you are in a position to record your apology video. Or even better, just surprise me by replying with your video attached! That would be a capital occurrence!
The second is finding out more about Obudu Mountain Resort. I've read your replies so far, but all I've been told is what I knew already. That is, it's in the east of Nigeria, close to Cameroon, and it's a holiday destination for a lot of people. I would like some more definite infos for the place, that would be amazing. Ideally, what I woud like is something official from them. A brochure would be splendid because that would show me all the good things it can offer. If you COULD get that I will, of course, supply you with a postal address so you can send it to me.

How are things otherwise in your life, Tony? Have you heard from Bob Goss? I have barely heard anything from him in the past three weeks. I wonder if he's still embarrassed about the trip debacle. I wouldn't have thought he'd be the type to get embarrassed about something like that but there is no accounting for other people's behaviour, they can be such random and unpredictable souls!

regards,
RJ

I bring up Obudu again. I've already sent one lad (and his two friends) there from Lagos, and I'm not exactly manically aiming for that to happen here, but maybe if he suggests it himself... well... I wouldn't tell him not to!

Tony wrote:

Dear. Sir how are you doing sir? I hope that all is well.

Yes I have been trying over since to cover the video but my phone seem to get problem because they told me that I have to change the mouth pic of the phone I mange to record my apology video to your for how sincerely I m Sir thank you.

For the Obudu Mountain Resort. I to contact some people that will help confirm that to me .

Yes I send him an email which I m not yet received from him I really don’t know what is happening to hi may he was busy for his finishing I believer so.

to upload the video here give hard time because i haven't do the before and he is showing Your file is larger than 25 MB. It will be sent as a Google Drive link and my phone is gave me problem from here and there but i mange to get send it it.

So, he's got a file, and it's larger than 25Mb? Let's hope it's a LOT bigger than 25Mb and his phone is on a limited internet data plan.

Tony wrote:

Dear. Sir. good morning how was your night ? yes i have done that but i m so disappointed here i have been try over since yesterday to see that i attach it to you but he couldnt expect it telling that is above the gmail MB THAT IT WAS 325 Mb FOR THE VIDEO WHICH Lager to be attach. this what he showed me. Your file is larger than 25 MB. It will be sent as a Google Drive link.

i dont know what to do now please advice me .

325Mb? Okay, that is a lot bigger than 25Mb! I hope he's going to upload it directly from his phone, thus using up any restrictions he has.

At this point, he sends me an email with just a link (tony.mp4) pointing to a file stored on Google Drive.
I click it and it then says I need to use an account that has been granted permission to access that file.
Unfortunately, of all the Google accounts I have for my characters, RJ isn't one of them, and asking for access permission from another account out of nowhere might arouse his suspicions.

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony, fine fellow!

I see that you've sent me a link to a file on Google Drive. Fantastic! I'm so glad you managed to do that for me! For me to view it, though, I will have to set up a Google account myself or get one of the staff here to let me use their Google account to access it. Or maybe there's something at your end that will anyone to access the file without a Google account. See if you can do that, switch it so anyone can access your file. As it stands, it says I need a Google account and then request your permission to view it.
I'll see how long it takes to set up a Google account and decide which option (create my own account or ask one of the people here to use theirs) I'll pick.
I'll be in touch with you soon.

regards,
RJ

A few hours later...

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony, sir!

It turns out that setting up a new Google account is a silly and convoluted process, so I've asked my stock advisor if I can use his account. He was here this afternoon for a consultation and so I asked him when we had finished.
Are you okay with this? Someone called T***** E****** will send a request to access your file. If you're not okay with this, let me know and I'll go and set up my own Google account.
Let me know soon, okay?

regards,
RJ

Tony wrote:

Sir which of my file will he access? the one i send you or the one i have here? let me know Sir because i didnt understand

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony, my friend!

Which file? The one you sent a link to, I am assuming. I got an email from you and it just said tony.mp4 and it was a clickable link so I clicked it and it went to a Google drive page asking me to log in with a Google account. As I said, I don't have one of those so I was stuck unless I created a new Google account or asked someone if I could use theirs. I asked T***** when we'd finished our meeting and he said yes. So I guess it will access whatever file has been uploaded to your Google Drive account, that's my guess!

regards,
RJ

Tony wrote:

Okay sir is that the one I sent you ? your wish is my concern you are the one that good what is good anything you suggest is Ok

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony, fine chap!

Okay, thank you for that. I will email T***** and tell him I'll use his account to access this file, then get him to change his password so I can't be accused of using his emails! Not that I would do such a thing, but it's always best to be safe and cover one's arse to prevent future trouble.

regards,
RJ

Tony wrote:

Ok you can go ahead to do that because is google drive only if you have the google drive then you be able to download it Sir you can go ahead sir you wish is my command thank you for ask i do understand please do as you wish Sir.

Thank you Sir.

He's in a very grovelling mood tonight!

Tony wrote:

Ok Sir

I assume that this email is in response to my sending a request from T's Google account.

Tony wrote:

yes i received a request from T*****. now to access the video that is okay

I assume wrongly...

Mr Johnson wrote:

Tony, sir!

I'm clicking on your link while logged into T*****'s account, but all I am getting is what you see in the picture I've attached. This is frustrating, I have to admit.

Have you clicked or switched or whatever to allow permission?

regards,
RJ

I attach a screenshot showing the "You need permission" screen that is still showing when I click on the original link he sent me. Did he just think that writing "You have permission" in his email (above) was enough? I suspect he did!

Tony wrote:

i really don't understand you mean you dont see that video of my apologizing that is my video Sir please check it very well Sir

There's a "Request permission" button on the screen I'm stuck at, so I click it again.

Tony wrote:

Sir yes i have done that he ask for permission whcih i have permission now you know i dint do such before so please i am sorry check it now

Tony wrote:

You can also check it from you own email i permission booth yous so that you can be able to access it too i share it with you so please you can chieck it

Hallelujah! I think he's figured out how it works!
I get an email sent to T's email account linking me to the file.

Which I download.

And watch.

Well... okay, so the picture doesn't synch up with the sound at all, but it's definitely Tony and he is definitely apologizing!
I'll see where I can upload it and post a link here when it's done.

EDIT: Waiting for YouTube to process my file.
EDIT 2: Does it really take this long to process a video?

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:06 pm

Finally!

Tony's apology video is here.

The sound barely matches the audio throughout the whole thing but at least I got to hear him apologize almost a thousand times.

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^^^ HE LIVES ^^^
I was getting worried about you Ofan Smile

I haven't emailed LT in a week or so.. (Tony later says it's been 3 weeks) Sometime in past week Larry contacted Bob asking If Bob had contacted Tony lately? Shocked

(well no why?)

So I responded that I had been busy and I had not.. I pointed out that email works both ways!

So in full disclosure..
I have been baiting DHL/Larry with another character.. Gawd it is boring Rolling Eyes

.

DHL Larry via bait wrote:

Oh SIR do you want to sack me its not authorize here is against the company rule is not possible if its i cold have done that before you ask.

if i do tried that is criminal act only that authority i have is only to scan it and confirm that is not country banned.

and i have sign and registered it as one of onward parcel that been need to be delivery urgent i wish that you have the assess to come down there to pick it in person i could have appreciated it i am sorry for that.

let me know when you want it to be ship so by Thursday you will cost it up and you will at home by friday??

Now, I am about ~70% convinced this DHL Larry is not our Larry above.. I had tested this a couple weeks ago by Bob sending the following to DHL Larry as a ASEM that only LT would know how to answer.. (sent to wrong email @ [email protected] work address vs larry's personal email)

Bob July 25th to DHL email wrote:

Hey Larry,

How was your weekend.. Mine was exhausting!.. Rebecca and I went on a couple hikes and acted like young high schools kids at night.. Ha!..

Have you heard from Tony lately? what is he saying?

After several pokes I never got a response.. So time to check with the Real Mr Larry (LT)

Bob on Aug 4th to personal email wrote:

Hey Larry,

How are you.. I have been emailing you but never got reply!.. I was very hurt! Ha!.. i just figured out i was emailing your old DHL address.. Are you still working there? I never got a reply.

Anyways.. what is new with you? I haven't heard from Tony lately or Mr Johnson either.. Mr Johnson and I are back on good terms though..

Just wanted to say hi, rite back..

Bob & Rebecca

Later that day...

Larry wrote:

My Dear. I M SORRY i m not work at this time i hard little problem i have been snicking for long now. i haven't heard from anyone yet .

the last time i hard from Tony the young Man was when he told me that his talking with Mr.Johnson and i believer that they will be in good relationship now that is all.

how are you doing? i miss you for queit long and how his Rebecca.?? Wink

Interesting.. early in the bait, months ago, I thought I was talking to multiple "larry" baiters.. LT and then others, when talking thru the DHL-Larry address. If you remember Our Larry suggested we email him at his personal address..

So has he been fired from that baiter factory or just been too sick to work? Remember he told Rachel he got fired.. (how low have you fallen to get fired from being a scammer Laughing

)
Maybe the lad has found the straight and narrow!.. Shocked

only one way I know to find out.. keep baiting him..

Back to Yesterday.. Tony reached out to me!

Quote:

Dear. Sir. how are you doing i hope that all is well with you sir it have been long i haven't hear from you for very long time now are you ok sir because i have been in contact with Mr. Johnson and i have been ask him if he hear from you and he told me that no for 3weeks now that he haven't heard from you are you okay sir?

So I am thinking of taking this in a different direction (didn't know about RJ success until this morning...) we might need to talk Very Happy

Quote:

Tony!...

My good lad.. i am so happy to hear from you. I got an email from our buddy Larry just the other day and he mentioned you asked about me!.. I was touched.. thank you my friend.. I had on my "todo" list to rite to you this week.. But my good man you beat me to it..

I apologize for my rudeness in not writing in a while.. I have jsut been so dang busy.. the weather up at Tetachuck lake lodge has be just Fantastic.. Its about 16 C right now, a little cold for some, but the rest of the week it shoudl be in the 20's to 24 C. Just Fantastic I tell you ..A couple of my American clients are complaining how hot it is in Texas and Wyoming.. So they seem to be enjoying their stay here..

Oh .. Great news.. Well I have not made a big announcement yet but well.. Rebecca and Me? Well well. we are getting married.. CAN you believe it.. Its sounds strange to say but we just decided it this weekend.. I know not as romantic as some people do it but we had to be practical.. I mean me being .. eh "older" and her so young. Well i dont want to go into all the private matters (I will anyways Laughing

)but Rebecca wants to have kids and well we can't (not me I assure you!).. but well we decided we would look into adopting or maybe other things.. Any ways.. Well if we are going to raise kids together.. (for the years i have left HA).. well we need to be married..

Anyways.. We aren't going to do anything big mind you.. just a small service..

Oh Please keep this between us right now.. I have not told many people.. Mr Johnson and Larry don't even know.. I plan to let them know soon.. but for now.. just keep it mum..

So back to you.. what do you hear from Mr Johnson!.. how is he doing? Last I heard he was still awaiting an apology video from you and maybe Larry? (i'm not sure what Larry did wrong except introduce us HA!.. ).. anyways.. Have you got that resolved? I hope so!.. Mr Johnson is a great alley !

Ok.. have to run.

Let me know if I can do anything for you in the future.. And I always appreciate referral of your friends and family.( i release you -- be free Laughing

)

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:37 am

Quote:

Let me know if I can do anything for you in the future..

I am sure you (both) can do a lot for him!

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