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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:18 pm

MrMystery314 wrote:

Trust me, I will definitely be grading these thoroughly.

Be careful with this. Remember -- forms are designed to give us an easy way to waste the lad's time, and not the other way around. If you are going to be spending a lot of time checking the lad's work for accuracy when he is just clicking on random choices to get through the form so he can get his grant money, you may not understand the purpose of a form.

As modokmind said, essays are far better because they're more work for your lad and because it's a lot easier for you to tell the the lad he is wrong and require him to re-do the form. (Remember the second or third rule of baiting: The lad is *always* wrong.) Then, after a rework or two, once the lad gets everything correct, you can be totally impressed with his application, his diligence, and his work ethic and offer him even more money than you first promised him.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:49 pm

I'd suggest trying the form on a few scammers to see how it actually works and how they respond to the different types of questions -- and tailoring your approach to get them to answer in the first place.

A mix of multiple choice questions and essays might be handy - then you can have a look and see what they tend to do with them and adapt accordingly if needed.

If you plan to grade multiple choice questions (for whatever purposes), I strongly suggest doing this automatically and not at all by hand. Drop me a PM if you need advice or assistance, I've done a lot of this.

However I suggest you don't even bother grading any of it, but just telling the scammer something like "You got only a score of 36 (Inferior), you will need to take the test again and do better".... If you get them to do it again, make up a higher number but still below your standards.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:45 am

By grading thoroughly, I mean making sure that their responses are intelligible. I can always introduce long delays to fake a grading process, but if the lads think that somebody is putting effort into quality control, it's better. If I were to grade any questions by hand, I would just go to random places in the test and check the easy ones.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:59 am

Sorry for double-posting if it's considered an issue here, but the grand form has reached 150 questions! I have attempted to test it on lads, but my current ones are being rather uncooperative and refuse to go off-script. Please enjoy and send me your results!

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:39 pm

Where is it?

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:59 pm

Sorry for the double post. Got it. Couple of question changes:

Replace Question 18 with: What color is the Taj Mahal.

Replace question 31 with: How many films are there in the Xenomorph Franchise.

Replace Question 44 with: What is the ideal number of siblings for an autistic child?

Replace Question 81 with: What topic is least likely to be discussed at a luncheon with members of the Algonquin Round Table for anachronistic reasons.

a) Twitter
b) Facebook
c) Tinder
d) YouTube
e) Google

Replace Question 116 with: Do you think Samurai preferred seppuku at sunset or or mid-afternoon?

Extra Questions:

1) Imagine you are in a survival situation armed only with only a brick and your faith in God. Discuss the situation and list at least 20 ways God would inspire you to use the brick in order to survive the situation.

2) Argon, Neon, Helium, Krypton, Xenon, and Radon are all noble gases. Which is the least appropriate of these elements to consider a noble gas. What element on the periodic table would you replace it with and why?

3) Describe a scientifically accepted alternative to the Theory of Plate Tectonics.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:34 pm

@modokmind
I added your extra questions. As for your suggested changes, I think I'll let Mr. Mystery handle them. It's his questionnaire, and I don't want to make changes that he doesn't want. I've already written some questions that were bad and he had to change.

@MrMystery314
I'm willing to help you test it, but it wouldn't really work for me to send it to the lads I'm working on right now. Talk to modokmind about his changes, and then I can send out ASEMs to new lads.

EDIT: How are we going to tell whose answers are whose? I don't think Google Forms automatically records the email addresses of users who submit forms. Should we add a personal info page at the beginning?

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:54 am

I think each subject will have to put some sort of identification code in the answer to the first text response. This can be an excuse to force lads to redo it, plus it lets us keep track of the right ones. Also, my main criteria for the questions are "If they are multiple-choice, do they have four options?", "Are these questions influenced by the answers to other questions?", and "Are the questions specific to a certain type of organization?" (I don't want too many questions that have to be answered based on scripture so that the form is more versatile. If there are questions that reference God, there should be an option if the test subject is an atheist; ideally even more confusing than the other option). If questions fit those three criteria, then they are good. Just make sure that formatting is consistent.

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:58 pm

MrMystery314 wrote:

Also, my main criteria for the questions are "If they are multiple-choice, do they have four options?", "Are these questions influenced by the answers to other questions?", and "Are the questions specific to a certain type of organization?" (I don't want too many questions that have to be answered based on scripture so that the form is more versatile. If there are questions that reference God, there should be an option if the test subject is an atheist; ideally even more confusing than the other option). If questions fit those three criteria, then they are good. Just make sure that formatting is consistent.

I have a few questions geared to the atheist lad or to confuse the religious lad on page 1 that did not appear on the test. But I dare not put them in there as I do not want to mess up the document. If you need one or more of the questions made into multiple choice format let me know and I will do so. Also do you have a problem with multiple choice questions having more than 4 options? I am a fan of 5 options.

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:02 pm

I worry that if there are too many choices, it will be too easy for process of elimination. Also, I want to keep the formatting of the test relatively consistent. If you want to go through all of the multiple choice questions so far and make them have five choices, I will most certainly not complain. Do you want editing privileges so you can contribute questions without going through me? If so, PM me with a Gmail account so I can share the form with you. Thank you for your contributions.
I get the feeling that this form will most likely end up being used for church purposes where the lads would not admit to being atheists, but you never know...

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how about a little "western reference"
should go completely over any lad's head

3. How many DAys was God WORKING on the creation.

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