first 2 baits progressing...... my thoughts

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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:45 pm

PhillipJayFry wrote:

I know you probably haven't recieved any updates yet, but be sure to keep it posted. I am (also) very new to this, and I learn a lot from seeing other people's initial moves.

I think the idea with the manager is great.

Mate I too am new to this. Less than a week into my journey. Just go to the surpluss scam letters section, reply to a few emails and wait. In 24 hours you have a lad fest! I'm just fumbling my way through taking the suggestions offered to me on this site.

Really, these lads are so blatant in their asking for money you can say what you like. I bet for every 1000 they send they may get a single response, most of which will soon cut ties as the scam is obvious. When they lure and idiot like us who looks likely to pay, they are in it like a car bonnet!

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:53 am

So, Mr Evil banker has had a meeting with me this morning and has asked me to stop communicating with the lad for the time being until some checks have been carried out. Mr Evil banker has set up another meeting with me tomorrow to report back.

Meanwhile, Mr Evil banker has emailed the lad to let him know he is not happy with lad and will offer him once more the original deal or to be chopped. I do hope this works, otherwise I may have to leave it a day or two and email the lad as me to kick start things again. Here is the email:

I shall let you into a little secret, see how you feel about it and then reconsider my original offer.

I am fully aware you emailed xxx yesterday about my communications with you. He came into the bank this morning and had a long discussion with myself and my manager about all correspondence from you. He has been advised not to respond to your emails at present until a few checks have been carried out.

Now, from me to you. For you to suggest you are not a scammer makes you look like an imbecile. Your whole communication is in broken English, lacks any detail and launches into a request for £3000 to set up a bank account. This is laughable. I have no idea how much money you make from mugus, I very much doubt you make a penny with this low end drivel. I have requested a stop on the bank account you provided to let you know who is in charge now.

I will offer you this deal only once more before I cut you off and reveal to xxx exactly who you are backed up with full information on this type of scam. I promise you will never see a penny.

I have access to many rich old clients who do not know a thing about investments. I can share these with you if you work with me. For now, you need to contact xxx as I originally asked and increase the amount he is set to receive and also request further money (£15,000) for legal fees etc. Believe me, this will be just a start.

I repeat, if you choose to share any of this information with xxx or don't do as I say, I will instantly put a stop to your dealings. xxx is ready to pay on my instruction only and I can rubbish anything you say to him that suggests anything to the contrary.

I have a further meeting with xxx tomorrow. It is up to you how you wish to proceed.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:28 pm

Good work, now lets see if he come around or dig his heels in even further.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:56 pm

Oh dear, my lad or his alias are usually fairly prompt in their replies..... No reply as yet. I do hope he does get back as I've become rather fond of him! I can't see why he wouldn't just take a punt on evil banker if he believes it. The lad is surely wanting payment and email is so anonymous he has little to loose.

Come on lad Crying or Very sad

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:45 pm

You only say "goodbye" when you are ready to say "goodbye"

Open a new e-mail address, with a new name - and write "I hope it is not too late to respond to your recent correspondence. I have been traveling and just returned home. Please tell me more".

Then bait him again.

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:19 pm

Oh dear, it all seems to have gone cold. I'm kidding myself thinking it's the weekend and the lad is having some well earned time off. I think I may have come in too hard too soon - anyhow, I've decided to leave it tomorrow in case the lad is "back in the office" to give him a final chance to respond, then I'm going to email just as me informing lad I've had time to mull things over and I think it is the bank who is the scammer and not the lad...... I'm moving banks.

BRUIN - Your idea is great. I shall implement that when I've exhausted my original bait. Just want to give that one just one more tickle before I admit defeat and start over! I like the idea of hitting him again.

If you focus on one lad again and again, is that classed as bullying?! Laughing

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:54 am

Many baiters have a favorite "pet" that they keep in touch with long term!

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:37 am

No worried, CD. Just pick a couple from Surplus and start over with what you've learned. Don't be surprised if your lad comes back in a week or two,

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:35 pm

I have been a bit busy recently so didn't get a chance to set up a new email address to re-bait my lad. Had a spare few minutes yesterday so sent one last ditch email from my character saying I've moved banks as I didn't get the service I was after..... would you believe it - my lad responded! Back in the game! Cool

I was informed that my massive payout now has a small extra fee due to "repurchasing" the bonds..... just a mere £390 on top of the £3000 original set up fee.

The bank account given was the same as originally reported and apparently went through - will have to inform the lad that this does not work. Shame really as I was hoping to be rich by tomorrow.

Obviously I went in too hard with my evil double scamming banker which lad did not like and ceased to respond. I need to think of something else to bait him with - something softer as he is sensitive. Any ideas?

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:17 pm

Well, if he does not like the banker, your character might be in a rocky relationship (marital, extamarital, gay, straight, whatever -- the mugu's really get upset over gay relationships).

Anyway, character #1's spouse/lover/significant other has found the e-mails and is responding. Thrust of the response is "look, I can do a lot better for you than [original character]. I am faster and more reliable. He is an idiot. What do you say - you drop him from this and deal with me from now on. I can mail a check to you immediately -- what is your mailing address?"

Of course, murder is an option....

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:53 pm

BRUIN - you have a very active imagination.... I like it. I think my characters young rent boy lover might get involved. I will have to do a bit of groundwork first though - my lad frightens easily and isn't shy to stop responding at the first sign of real trouble. bless.... I think murder might really frighten him - I could do this if all is going well and then adopt a police officer who will email him for information about my communications - very serious international investigation and the likes...... immunity for compliance.

Anyhow, another bank account sent today as I told him the other didn't work - reported to mods for piggie number 3.

BANK NAME: LA CAIXA BANK
ACCOUNT NO: ES78 XXX 0740
SWIFT CODE: CAIXESBBXXX
BENEFICIARY NAME: EVERA XXXX
BANK ADDRESS: AV,BARRIE DE LA MAZA, 30, 15160 SADA MADRID, SPAIN

BENEFICIARY'S ADDRESS: XXXX MADRID, SPAIN

I need to play nice for a week or so just to let him know payday is on its way, just my incompetence that needs a bit of working on. Can't be giving him a hard time too soon after our relationship is back on tracks. Cool

Just to set the rent boy lover scene - my boyfriend has taken me to the bank - no luck....

"What is going on with the bank accounts? I got my boyfriend to take me to the bank strait away to make this urgent payment and they said the account has been restricted. I am really keen not to loose this opportunity and will make the payment as soon as I get details that work."

419Eater is my life Joined: 27 Aug 2014 Posts: 482

They never give up a real bank account first shot. when they offer moneygram or western union just tell them your company has prohibited these companies due to terrorism and illegal activities, tell them its a bank account or cannot proceed any further and they always come through

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:02 pm

El Burro Guapo wrote:

They never give up a real bank account first shot.

Would you believe this lad has given 3 bank accounts - not even a mention of WU, moneygram or the likes... is he "special"?!

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:08 pm

URGENT HELP NEEDED

As soon as I was toasting getting my lad back on side and receiving yet another piggie (obviously I couldn't pay due to problems with the account) my lad has gone off on one and looks to be done with me:

lad: "You know what? You are a bundle of liar because all the accounts given to you so far are active and operative please forget this payment as it will be disabled after today. Good Bye."

How can I bring him round? I am not "a bundle of liar", I resent that, just incompetent and been given info my bank can't make payment to.

Any thoughts to get back on side?

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:16 pm

You are gravely offended. You keep going back to the bank (same bank you dealt with before) and keep trying to transfer funds to the bank account, but the banker keeps telling you that the transfer is not going through.

Tell the mugu that you think it is all that banker's fault! Could we try do something else? Maybe you could mail a check directly to him -- can you have his address?

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:31 pm

BRUIN - apart from the obvious cheque being lost in the post, is there any benefit from having the lad's address? Can any fun be had with that? Could I actually send him something? A fake cheque knocked up in photoshop? Some pictures of my young rent boy lover and me enjoying time together?

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:49 pm

Sorry, we don't send stuff by mails. It's basically cash baiting-you'd have to pay to send it. Any of those suggestions, duly photo-shopped to prevent reuse could be sent by email.

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:55 pm

Capone wrote:

Sorry, we don't send stuff by mails. It's basically cash baiting-you'd have to pay to send it. Any of those suggestions, duly photo-shopped to prevent reuse could be sent by email.

I see, forum rules eegh? No money to be spent, no matter how small? I'm fine with that.

Can you send cheques by email?! Confused

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:04 pm

On BRUIN's and Dr Mike's advice I have responded with the email below. I hope the politeness will reignite the flames we had together......

"Please don't call me a liar, I am doing my very best to get this money sent. I have had great trouble doing so and have been to my bank including my new one many times trying to sort this out. If you would give me just a little more time I will go to my bank tomorrow morning and speak with them now you have told me the account is working properly. I don't want to loose this opportunity as you can see as I'm willing to pay the extra money on top of the £3000 set up fee. This good luck does not come to me often and I want to get things moving."

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:51 pm

There are legit (by 419 standards) things that you can do with a mugu's address:

(a) Tell him you mailed him a check for x dollars. Obviously, you don't send anything. Keep assuring him it will arrive any day now.

(b) Bait another mugu (mugu #2). Do a dollar chop. Tell him that mugu #1 chopped his dollar. You mailed a check to mugu #1 . Provide mugu #2 with the address and other contact info for mugu #1.

(c) E-mail in mass homosexual solicitations to lots of mugus. Sign mugu #1's name. Provide his home address (if you can get his phone number too, all the better). Be explicit in describing desired sexual acts Very Happy

(d) E-mail in mass curses to lots of mugus. Be sure to use the words "mother" and "goat" in the same sentence. Sign mugu#1's name. Include his address and, if possible, his phone number.

(e) Bait another mugu (#3). Forward to him 'pretend' e-mails from mugu #1, which you claim to have received, in which mugu #1 warns you that mugu #3 is a scammer. Be sure that the fake forwarded e-mail includes a home address and other contact info from Mugu #1.

The list is endless! Use your imagination.

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:59 pm

Jesus BRUIN! Do you do anything other than make these poor lad's lives a misery?! "Use my imagination"? My mind isn't nearly as sick and twisted as yours but I shall work hard on it.

Thanks so much for your great advice Cool

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:41 pm

On receipt of another email today, asking for payment into the bank account or via moneygram, I decided to "pay" the money into the account provided with a great deal of difficulty. I assume the lad will ask for some slip or other, they always seem to on others baits. Unfortunately none was given - and I also see a return of funds when it goes wrong.......

I will then inform them moneygram is a not secure and my boyfriend has advised against it. That in my opinion is time for an address to send a cheque or bankers draft.

I shall wait - lad will be itching for this payment, so close but no cigar yet.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:12 pm

Chickendipper wrote:

My mind isn't nearly as sick and twisted as yours

It is only on 419eater that such a statement is viewed as a compliment.

Thanks!

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:40 pm

BRUIN wrote:

Chickendipper wrote:

My mind isn't nearly as sick and twisted as yours

It is only on 419eater that such a statement is viewed as a compliment.

Thanks!

It was fully intended as a compliment Wink

I was once called a "frightful c**t" ..... I then knew I had made my mother proud.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:44 pm

Keep in mind, CD, that the most successful baits on this forum invariably involve multiple characters -- these extra characters give you the opportunity to create conflicts and confusion! Every new character needs to have his own personality, his own agenda (which may conflict with other characters) and his own unique psychiatric issues!

Every successful bait is basically a soap opera, performed for an audience of one (plus whoever reads it if you publish it on 419eater!)

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