New York Supreme Court judge really wants his $450

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Hello I'm New here! Joined: 11 Jul 2018 Posts: 5

Hi everyone, this is my first real, successful-ish bait. I picked this guy up from the Surplus Letters board and got him hooked pretty quick. I haven’t used a forum like this in a long time so bear with me if I make some mistakes!

Meet Hon. Patrick Ben:

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HON. PATRICK BEN

ADMINISTRATIVE CHIEF JUDGE

SURROGATE COURT, 152 GENESEE ST, AUBURN,

NY USA (New York STATE SUPREME COURT)

ATTN BENEFICIARY.

WITH DUE RESPECT OF THIS HONORABLE COURT New York STATE SUPREME COURT UNITED

STATES OF AMERICA, WE WANT TO INFORM YOU THAT WE HAVE DISCOVERED A TRANSACTION

BETWEEN YOU AND AFRICA BENIN REPUBLIC COTONOU UNIT, ACCORDING

TO THE INVESTIGATION MADE ON MONDAY IT HAS COME TO OUR NOTICE THAT YOU ARE THE

REAL BENEFICIARY OF THE SAID FUNDS ONLY THAT YOU WERE DEALING WITH THE WRONG

ONES.

YOU’RE $15.5 MILLION UNITED STATE DOLLARS WAS FORWARDED TO THIS COURT ON Monday last week

AFTER ALL THE INVESTIGATION MADE BY FBI, HOME LAND SECURITIES, AND DC POLICE

AND WE HAVE MANDATED TO PAY YOU YOUR FUNDS THROUGH THE AUTHORITY OF THIS NY

COURT WHICH FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK WILL TAKE CARE OF THE ATM CARD/

ONLINE BANK TRANSFER/ CERTIFIED CHECK THE WHOLE FUNDS WILL BE WRITTEN IN CHECK, FOR THIS

SPECIAL ARRANGEMENT YOUR COMPLY IS MUCH NEEDED FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT

EVERYTHING MOVE SUCCESSFULLY AND YOU WILL RECEIVE YOUR TOTAL FUNDS WITHOUT ANY

HITCH. '

YOU ADVICE TO STOP ANY COMMUNICATION THAT YOU ARE HAVING WITH ANY OFFICE LIKE

DIPLOMATIC AGENT, MONEY GRAM, BANKS, AND COURIER COMPANIES OR ANY FORCES

BECAUSE THEY CANNOT DELIVER ANY FUND TO YOU WHILE THEY HAVE BEEN BLOCKED BY OUR

NY STATE SUPREME COURT IN COLLABORATION WITH US FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM THAT ANY

AMOUNT OF MONEY COMING MUST BE DIRECTED TO OUR COURT TO AVOID MONEY LAUNDERING

AND TO PROTECT ALL CITIZEN ANY MONEY SEND TO THIS AGENCIES WILL BE REGRETTED BE

WISE.

IMMEDIATELY YOU RECEIVE THIS MAIL ADVICE US HOW TO GET THE FUNDS TO YOU WITHOUT

ANY FURTHER DELAY RECONFIRM YOUR DETAILS FOR THIS SPECIAL TRANSFER.

CHOOSE YOUR PAYMENT OPTION

1. ATM CARD

2. ONLINE BANK TRANSFER

3. BANK CERTIFED CHECK

To this effect, you are to contact us with your information listed

Below for the immediate release of your funds.

Full Name: ...............

Address: ....................

Country: .....................

Telephone: ....................

Mobile: ........................

Email: .........................

WE ARE WAITING TO RECEIVE YOUR EMAIL.

HON. PATRICK BEN

[snip, contact info]

ADMINISTRATIVE CHIEF JUDGE

SURROGATE COURT, 152 GENESEE ST, AUBURN,

NY USA (NEW YORK STATE SUPREME COURT)

And this is my character, Pam Sifter:

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Hello Mr. Ben,

I am shocked to hear about this sum of money but am very happy to know it is waiting for me!!! Please send the money to me via ATM card as that might be the easiest option for me at the moment.

My name is Pamela Sifter and I live at [snip] in Jackson, MS. I can be reached by phone at [snip]. You’ve already got email address as you can see Smile

Thank you Mr. Ben!

Best,
Pam

The next day, I got this reply from Mr. Ben.

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NY USA (NEW YORK STATE SUPREME COURT)

OVER-DUE PAYMENT RELEASED. FINALLY, YOUR FUND IS NOW HERE IN THE USA AWAITING TO BE SHIPPED TO YOUR ADDRESS :: [fake address] in Jackson, MS [zip code] USA

Attention Mr. Pamela Sifter

Fund Order $15.500.000.00

Sequel to the above specifications, the management of the Fund Reconciliation Department here in New York City USA, wishes to let you know that your fund worth total amount of $15.5 million is long overdue payment, every precept regarding your funds has been concluded. You will be receiving your funds from this Surrogate Court Office any moment from now. We take, keep and make report of every transaction done here in the USA. Investigations gathered by the Fund Regulatory Agency {IMF}, shows you have been receiving numerous emails from several offices requesting you to claim your funds. In some cases, you tried a lot but still the transfer or delivery was not completed due to one reason or the other. The fact is that you are stuck between the chains which make it impossible for you to differentiate the real office from its counterfeit.

I know you will be expecting to hear from me regarding this delivery after the last attempt to get it over. The fact is that I understand you're been into so many transaction and I decided to stay clear so that you will understand the truth about everything going on within the internet.

We noticed that the only real offices that had ever contacted you in respect to your funds were United State Embassy Kenya and Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It was brought to our notice that the former Ambassador to the republic of Kenya, Ambassador MR. ROBERT F. GODEC, made voluntary effort to bring your funds along to your home address but couldn't due to some fall-out on your ends. The Federal Reserve Bank of New York came up to make a wire transfer but they said you couldn't meet up with the fee demand for the transfer, so they gave up on you. In a more proper and legalized manner, the International Monetary Fund and the Federal Reserve Bank solicited us Fund Reconciliation Department to allow your fund to be Credited as Visa Card and be shipped to your home address through the USA Global guarantee Express Mail. These options, we supposed could be the best, easiest and the most efficient way to have you get hold of your long awaited United Nations approved funds.

Like you were told by the Federal Reserve Bank aforementioned, your funds was transferred from about four different banks; Central Bank of Kenya, United Bank of Africa, Bank of America and Nat west bank London. In total, your funds were amounting to the tune of USD15.5 Million United State Dollars as we speak, your funds have been credited in your Visa Card and also available as Cashier's Check well documented and packaged. The documented package will be shipped to your mailing address by the USA Priority Express Mail here in NY, USA. The ONLY thing needed before we can POST your ATM CARD or CHECK is the PROCUREMENT FILE of your funds.

For the purpose to avoiding double payment on your end, we had an agreement with the IMF and Federal Reserve to document every charge necessary until the package gets to your home address. The analytical group of the two offices mentioned above had an accurate sum of USD450.00 for Procurement. So it was constituted and officially submitted to the "Court of Justice" that the ONLY charge you will EVER pay before your package leaves our office here in USA to your home address is USD450.00 for your Procurement File to be signed and conveyed down here in the USA and YOU WILL NEVER pay a dime again as agreed. We are renowned and reputable USA Agency and we don't like an undocumented process that is why it had to be written down in Court that you will never pay any other money apart from the USD450.00 The USD450.00 is for "PROCUREMENT FEE" (That is for someone to sign your file on your behalf). USA Ambassador, ", who will be coming to the United State in few days will have the Power of Attorney to stand in and sign on your behalf so that he can sign and bring along with him your PROCUREMENT FILE to us here to enable us POST your loaded ATM CARD or WRITTEN CHECK to your mailing address via Priority Express Mail without any hitch.

Therefore, the days of you being subjected to paying twice Double Payment is over as that is the case with some corrupt officials down there in Africa, whom always strife to subject beneficiaries to hard bureaucratic bottleneck, thereby making it impossible for most innocent citizens spread across the globe and the likes to claim what rightfully belongs to them. Thank GOD that your funds are here in NEW YORK SURROGATE COURT, USA and so we decided to follow the USA constitutions so as to ensure that your money is in your hands this within 14 hours. Without mincing words, it will be desirous if you consciously adhere to the above instruction by remitting the PROCUREMENT FEE calculated to be USD450.00 down to the office so that you’re ATM CARD or you’re Check depending on your choice, could be shipped to your home address.

RECEIVER'S NAME FOR WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER OR MONEY GRAM MONEY TRANSFER

Send the money by Money gram or Walmart to:

Receiver Name : Mauricio the Mule

Address : Ontario California

Country USA.

$450,00

We hope your immediate positive response with payment details or payment slip attachment once you make the payment to enable a speedy shipment of your Check to your home address. Yes we are sorry for the inconveniences you might have encountered in the past, in pursuit of your funds. Now that this office, Fund Reconciliation Department is involved, you will have no cause to ever regret again as soon as you adhere to the above given instructions.

Attach is my ID Card

Regards,

Contact person

Hon. Patrick Ben,

ADMINISTRATIVE CHIEF JUDGE,

SURROGATE COURT, 154 GENESEE ST, AUBURN,

NY USA (NEW YORK STATE SUPREME COURT)

[snip]

NEW YORK CITY, USA

This guy’s script is very verbose! Rolling Eyes

Here is his Very Official ID card.

Looks legit.

I immediately call him out on the fact that he’s having me send money to California when he’s supposedly in New York:

Quote:

Good morning,

Goodness Mr. Ben, that was a lot to read!!! Nevertheless, I have sent the $450.00 (four hundred fifty US dollars) to the aforementioned person as soon as I received this message. I was confused as to why I was sending the money to California when you are in New York but I suppose there are just some things I will not understand!!!

Here is the Moneygram tracking number: [fake number]

I hope the fee finds you well!!!

Best,
Pam

My word is not enough for Mr. Ben, who is now off-script in the most obvious way:

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Attn Mr Pamela Sifter

I am here to respond to your email i want you to kindly attach the customer payment copy, so we can confirm that the fee is sent to the right location as supposed ,

Meanwhile i check the tracking detail Number 05859633 but was not found on Money Gram system. Kindly attach the copy of the Money Gram copy for us now

Waiting for the copy if for sure you make the payment?

Thanks
P.B

While I’m digging up a receipt, he sends another email begging for confirmation that I sent him the money. This is what I manage to cough up:

Quote:

Good day Mr. Ben,

Of course I’ve sent the payment. I’m not a liar, especially when it comes to collecting overdue funds. My local Moneygram is not very up-to-date so they still provide basic receipts and do not have multiple copies of the form. Attached is the receipt.

They said that the tracking number takes several hours to become active and show movement which is probably why you aren’t seeing anything yet.

Best,
Pam

Mr. Ben is not pleased with the lack of information:

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Attn Mr Pamela Sifter

I have receive your respond with the payment info as you sent but right now i want to know the suppose receive name and location where you send the fee as you said as i can not see it on the copy , Please be advise to get back to me with the receiver information where you send the fee ?

And Pam isn’t pleased with his lack of trust:

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Mr. Ben,

Who else would I have sent the money to? $450 is not a small sum, especially when I have bills to pay, so I wouldn’t send $450 all willy-nilly like this. I’m saddened by your lack of trust; all I want us the money I am owed!!! I will go back to my local Moneygram and see if they can give me a copy of the form to prove to you that the money has been sent to Mr. Mule.

Disappointedly,
Pam

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I don’t know how long a post should be but this feels pretty long, so I’ll continue in another post!

Baiting Guru Joined: 25 Jul 2017 Posts: 2107

It really hurts when they don't trust you doesn't it? Maybe it's time to ask him for a bank account to transfer money directly to....and collect a pig in the process. Obviously, MG has messed this up so a bank transfer should do nicely now.

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Mr. Ben wants Pam to go somewhere else:

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I am sorry Mr Pamela Sifter you must understand that to send money Gram it takes only a minute to be active and ready for pick up why this is so different Mr Pamela i trust that you sent the fee but i think the money gram did not do their job to make it available for the receiver Mauricio the Mule .

For this reason i advice you to proceed back to your local money Gram location to get refund so you can go through Walmart to Walmart transfer to resend the $450.00 immediately and make sure it`s available to pick up before you leave their office, just tell the money Gram that ou want your money back then try send it Walmart to Walmart which could be best option for us to cash up the fee soon as you send it ok

Thanks

Compliant Pam heads to Walmart:

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Mr. Ben,

That is MRS. Pamela Sifter. I am a woman.

I called my local Moneygram to ask for a refund and they said that because of their vintage system, the transfer hadn’t even begun yet so luckily I still have the money in my account. Walmart is much closer than Moneygram for me so I will go there now and transfer the money to Mr. Mule.

I will let you know when the transfer is complete.

Best,
Pam

While I was writing the above email, Mr. Ben sent me another message that reiterated the one I was replying to but in different words. He did this a few time throughout the day.

Anyway, I went to take a shower/Pam was driving to Walmart and Mr. Ben sent two more emails (very eager, he is), one where he asked for Pam’s number and another where he supplied another mule’s name and an address in Utah that belonged to an empty wooded lot.

Pam’s reply, finally:

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Mr. Ben,

I cannot give you my phone number. My husband checks my phone regularly and if he sees calls or texts from numbers he has not approved then, well, let us just say it won’t end prettily.

On a more important note, I am currently at the Walmart a short distance from my home. I am about to start filling out the form so this email came just in time. Utah, now? This is quite the intercontinental exchange!

Will update you as soon as possible,
Pam

And then, drama strikes! After I checked the Utah address, I decided to create a new character, Earlene, who is the manager at Pam’s Walmart.

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Mr. Ben,

The transfer has been denied by the manager here at Walmart!!! I tried to do the electronic form on a computer here and it prompted me to see a manager. She told me that it was denied because the pick-up location was invalid. She is requiring you to fill out a form and attach a photo of yourself holding your identification before I can proceed... do hurry up and do this, as I need to go to work in a few hours and I’ve already spent most of my day out and about trying to get this money to you!!!

Send the completed form and your photo to the manager, Earlene, at her email [snip, my other character’s email] please!!!

Full name:
Date of birth:
Current location:
Occupation:
Name of individual picking up transaction:
Address of Walmart for pick-up:
Amount being picked up:
Intent (what is the money being used for?):
Photo - must include entire face (waist-up) and must be holding official identification. Failure to do so will permanently decline transaction.

Best,
Pam

I was trying for that trophy! Mr. Ben was not having that, though:

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Hey what is her concern over all that info that is tricky please kindly leave that office because she dosen ‘t want to send you the money ok

IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FIRST MESSAGE

What did you tell them that make them start asking you all that question, come on they are tricky My friend , you know what to do kindy tell them you are not longer sending it they should decline it because to see my identity is not her job rather to do transfer to who you asked them to . not to question about anything else they have no right .
.

Pam doesn’t see what the issue is:

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Mr. Ben,

What is tricky about that form? Please, I’ve got to send this money off so that I can go home and get ready for work!!! If anything, I’ve had to do more today to get MY OWN money than you have done since your initial email. Mr. Ben, please complete the form as it is stated and we can get this all underway!!!

I can’t just leave and go someplace else. There is no other way for me to transfer these funds as Moneygram is not working and Walmart is awaiting your response!!!

Pleadingly,
Pam

Mr. Ben replies with two emails five minutes apart:

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Now you need to leave their office tell them you are no longer sending it , them i want you to proceed new Location where you can send it because that office is not doing their job trust me , How could they request for my identify who are they to ask for my information , the deserve to be sue for that harassment.

Kindly leave that office and go to new place where you can get money send without such question and requirement,

———————

Kindly go to new location where you can find western union or Overnight money order , if possible you can send it by direct deposit at Wells Fargo Bank which i will be forwarding to you now , so kindly proceed to any of the location and make transfer immediately if you really want to receive what belong to you .

Can you make deposit at Wells Fargo Bank Branch ?

BINGO! I continued pleading with him to send the photo because I wanted a trophy (too ambitious for my first catch?) then I emailed him from Earlene’s account to state my case and see if I could get it that way. Then I decided a piggy in my siggy wouldn’t be so bad and asked him for the Wells Fargo information.

Mr. Ben was happy to share it:

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Bank Information Wire transfer as follows.
Wells Fargo Bank NA 420 Montgomery San Francisco CA 94104
[snip, bank information for Mauricio the mule]

I reported the account and set about finding a bank transfer form to use to convince him that the money was on the way. Meanwhile, Mr. Ben was blowing up Pam’s email, asking for details on the transfer. Pam told him to cool it and Mr. Ben shut up for a little bit.

I couldn’t find a Wells Fargo form so I used a Chase Bank one and was able to fill it out in the PDF and pass it off as an online form. Mr. Ben is stupid so he believed it - but was not satisfied with the cropped version.

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Thanks for your email have got the payment slip , meanwhile i will advice you to screenshot the last end of the signed and bank stamp?

Try see if you can send me the full page of the copy for proper confirmation please am sorry ?

Pam’s mad:

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Mr. Ben,

I am no longer at the bank. I am about to go to start my shift at my job so getting a photo of the bottom of the form will not be possible. As I said earlier I am not a liar, I have no time for lies. I’m not a scammer. You emailed me first, after all, and I am giving YOU my hard-earned money so that I can get the money that I am owed!!! The teller assured me that the transfer will go through as long as the account information is valid, which I am sure it is.

Best,
Pam

Mr. Ben has no handle on question marks:

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You should know that it`s important to give proper information about transfer ? as matter of fact i want you to know that i will do my best to get your fund deliver to your address once we confirm that what you send went thru into the cashier account ? if you have any means to send the full copy that will clear up both where bank signed for the transfer is very important ?

I tell him that I am at work and the bank has the paper and gave him a fake confirmation number and instructions to call Chase if he didn’t get the money in the account.

An hour later, he asks Pam for her ID “to avoid wrong delivery” Rolling Eyes

Pam is appalled:

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Mr. Ben,

You are so very untrusting of me. I asked YOU for a photo of you with your ID so that I could send you the money when I was at Walmart and you refused and told me to leave!!! But I should trust you with MY ID??? Mr. Ben, if you want a photo of me, send me yours first.

Show me yours and I will show you mine.

Pam

Meanwhile, he replies to Earlene, and I try once more for a trophy. He doesn’t reply back.

Two hours later, he shoots me a separate email with the subject “ID Card.” Could this be the trophy I’ve been working for?!

Nope, just the same ID from earlier. Sigh. I ask him once more for a photo of him holding the ID and he ignores it.

To Pam’s email about showing mine and showing yours:

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Mrs Pamela Sifter

The reason i am saying this is to avoid wrong delivery of your package which will take off today with all due respect to your home once fee i conform by the cashier today , ,kindly attach photo ID of you so to enable the delivery man to identify you during delivery processing ??

Thanks

And the next day he replies to the other email where I ask him one more time for a photo:

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Meanwhile i can see you are taking us for granted till yet no deposit received like you said , the cashier just told me that no single penny confirm on his bank , so a sorry i think of something else.

Pam replies to both emails at once:

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The delivery man can see my ID when he arrives Smile

Pertaining to your other email about not seeing any money in the WF account, I have been on the phone with my bank all day trying to understand what is happening. They claim they cannot process the transaction because the account you gave me to send it to has been flagged for suspicious behavior... I don’t understand how it could be. I explained the situation to them, how you are a judge with the New York Supreme Court and how you emailed me to alert me to the money I am owed and they put me on hold and transferred me all over the place.

The issue has not been resolved as there is nothing I can do on my end and Chase Bank refuses to transfer to your account. I really feel that if you can provide a current photo of yourself with an explanation of who you are and why I am sending the money to you, it would aid the process greatly.

Best,
Pam

Mr. Ben has not replied since, and I’m thinking I won’t be hearing from him again... but we’ll see.

Baiting Guru Joined: 25 Jul 2017 Posts: 2107

You can sense his frustration building during the exchanges you posted. Nice reading!

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:03 pm

Feel free to give your new pet a poke from time to time. Lads love that.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:45 pm

Very nice start! I like the MG office address on the receipt.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:07 pm

Thursten3rd wrote:

Feel free to give your new pet a poke from time to time. Lads love that.

They do! I always kept a record of all e-mailadresses from lads who had twigged halfway through - just so I could send them all a BCC-email with:

"Are we moving forward?" - just every 3 months or so.. Some of them spend quite the amount of time trying to establish if they had missed a victim.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:01 pm

Great first bait- I love it when lads message frantically, I bet he could almost taste the cash! Laughing

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:23 pm

Sorry, but I had to remove the image of the scammer's ID. Please repost it after watermarking it clearly with "SCAMMER." As pathetic as it may look to us (and it really is comical!), other scammers could recycle it to use in their own scams.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 11 Jul 2018 Posts: 5

Removed full quote of the previous post to make the thread easier to read. Think of this as a conversation! - bware419ers

Oh sorry!! I’ll keep that in mind for next time!

Thanks everyone for your comments! Mr. Ben and Pam are talking right now and I’ll post the conversation once it slows down.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:34 am

I have just met him with the exact same request from another walmart manager. He specifically asked me to use either moneygram or walmart to walmart.

I am pushing the argument that it's a new company policy regarding flagged transactions on him.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:40 pm

Great start here!

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 11 Jul 2018 Posts: 5

@bware419ers - thanks for the feedback!
@JasonSC - ha nice! he’s going to lose his mind!

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So, Mr. Ben emailed me back on early Sunday morning asking me to go to Wells Fargo to make a direct deposit to his account or go to UPS and send a money order.

Pam:

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Mr. Ben,

It is currently 3:30 in the morning where I am. You woke me up with this email. I worked until very late tonight and was trying to get some rest but here you are again...

I would be lying if I didn’t say I wasn’t a bit wary of sending you money now as I have encountered troubles so many times already... the fact that Chase Bank said the account was suspicious makes me very worried... I know that you’ve shown me your ID but you must know how the internet works and it is very hard to trust a person you have never met... please send me a photo? My husband now knows about this whole situation and so I don’t end up in trouble with him, I would like a photo of you for that reason as well!!!

Trust me, I want this money as much as you want to give it to me. In the morning, I’ll see if I can go to UPS and do the money order. Please include the address of the person who is picking up the funds because I’m sure the post office will need it!!!

Best,
Pam

He sent back two replies about ten minutes apart:

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4:51am
I think i have done all i can for you at the main time therefore i will not send further photo because i hope my ID card has already identify who i am with all due respect i can not lie to gain $450 because i know it will never benefit me anything good in future , I want you to trust me that the account i sent to you has no problem of suspicious if what you said is truth i want ti tell you that the bank just made such thought on them self depending that you always disclose everything to them which is not good on your end.

I want you to keep this transaction confidential secret from now do not disclose to any further people to avoid losing this over what people are telling you. do not live for peoples opinion , I tell you if you can just close your mouth and focus do not let anyone know anything over this , if the office ask you just tell them you are sending money to your family """"" That is the answer Mrs Pamela ,

Now if you can make direct deposit at WF that will be more better and clear or Go to Post office USPS overnight express mailing . Choose between the option above

Here is the full address of Receiver If UPS money Order
Receiver Name : Mauricio the Mule
[snip, address of mule]

5:00am
Stop telling anyone why you are sending the fee for , just let them know it`s for Family since you know everything within yourself , they will never allow you to make any transfer the moment you told them you re sending the fee because of getting your fund . the moment you tell them so they will stop the transfer and start asking you a lot of question both relevant and irrelevant orders .

Maintain yourself by not disclosing any of the matter with any office you went to do transfer from now on okay??

He wants her to lie or else just keep her mouth shut? This isn’t suspicious at all!

Pam ignored him for a day and a half (there’s no post on Sunday after all! No UPS for Pam!) and Mr. Ben didn’t like that very much:

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Helo Mrs Pamela

Can you tell me what is going on that i have not hear from you after making promise to send the fee By USPS by Money Order , can you tell me what the delaying all about kindly

Thanks

Pam doesn’t like being told what to do:

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Mr. Ben,

Between you telling me to keep my mouth shut and Chase Bank freezing my account after trying to send you this money, I haven’t been able to get the funds to you. I don’t see why I must keep my windfall a secret from people, or lie and say I’m sending money to family!!!

Again, Chase Bank has frozen my account. They call it “scam protection” because the account I tried to send it to before has been flagged for suspicious activities. This means I can’t even withdraw money to send it to you if I wanted to!!! This is harming me in other ways as I cannot buy groceries for my family until my claim with Chase Bank is resolved!!! Sometimes I wish I never responded to your email!!!

Upsettedly,
Pam

Mr. Ben thinks that’s a bunch of BS:

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No that1s not true bank has no power to frozen your account for no reason come on stop that , i am living here in united state so don`t say that bank close your account for no reason . i have never hard it it before , right now i want you to know that the account i gave you to send the fee is good and nothing like you said happen to the account.

I have withdraw money out from the account today and try to confirm from the WF and they told me that nothing happen to the cashier account. you just put this up on yourself because i have make deposit to the account today and everything works out

I wonder the issue you have with you bankers or so because they can never froze your account with that reason ok

Do not forget that you are dealing with chief Judge

A THREAT?!

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There`s nothing like suspicious about the account i sent to you , the account is good and WF bank have never said such like your bank did , how can your bank say so ? I am still surprise feeling that you do not want to send the fee for real . Now i know you are not saying the truth about this transfer so better clear yourself .

Meanwhile i see no reason bank can make this wrong gesture about what is not right , i am 100% sure nothing is wrong with account i gave you if it`s WF Bank could have let me know today after i spoke with the Manager today at Bank .

Pam came back with the receipts:

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Mr. Ben,

Are you threatening me? As a judge you should know better than to do that.

I said my account is frozen!!! Clearly it’s possible for banks to frozen accounts because it happened to me!! I even Googled it to make sure I was correct!!

Please see the attached photo which will tell you that bank accounts can be frozen!!! Tsk, I can’t believe I’m arguing with you about this.

Pam

Mr. Ben still doesn’t understand:

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They are wrong if it`s true that the freez your account for transfer of ordinary $450.00 i wonder where in the world that such happen ? I want you to

Now since your account is frozen what are they required to unfreeze it ? because i do not understand why they have to do so ?

Kindly let me know what they said about getting out your fund now

Pam snaps:

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Mr. Ben,

I feel like you aren’t reading what I’m writing to you, so I will put it in big, bold letters. THEY FROZE MY ACCOUNT BECAUSE I REPEATEDLY USED MY DEBIT CARD/ACCOUNT TO SEND MONEY TO YOUR ACCOUNT, WHICH HAS BEEN FLAGGED FOR SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY!!!!! It’s a standard if not really inconvenient process and has everything to do with keeping my money secure!!

I don’t know why your account has been flagged as such, becuase the bank didn’t give me details. They said they and Wells Fargo are going to be investigating your account. I’ve appealed to have my account unfrozen and they said it can take up to 10 business days for the appeal to be confirmed or denied so we’ll all just have to wait.

Best,
Pam

Mr. Ben is blaming the victim:

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You know the reason i want you to keep everything confidential secret is to avoid such that just happen , that happen for the fact that share your private issue with the bank , even if you do i never see where bank can easily froze someone account just like that no reason .

Mrs Pamela The truth is that i cannot believe it because even if scam that you are sending it to they have no right to froze your account my friend remember

Do not forget i will have to divert this fund to federal treasury account as well as unclaimed fund to avoid to many interruption since you can not send the fee .??

Pam tries to bargain:

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Mr. Ben,

I’m sorry, but it’s out of my control. Perhaps you should have less sketchy people handling your accounts!

To think that I would give up on such a large sum of money is incredible!!! Why don’t you send me half of it until my account is unfrozen and I can attempt to send the money once more?

Pam

Mr. Ben is astounded:

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Well the only thing i can do now is for you to let me know how long it wil take you to send the $450 that is the all , NO fund will be deliver until come up with the fee trust me that is according to the instruction from Authority this time .

The account bank i sent is 100% good i said it earlier before now , Chase bank just impose that on themselves or so. so look for the fee and resend it this time at Wells Fargo bank . even you can go to well Fargo and confirm the account and wait for what they will tell you because the account is genuine i keep saying it quote me anywhere i can proof it again and again.

Just let them know that when you go bank to the bank .

Five minutes later, he sends another email:

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You should learn to know the truth . i can not give you bad account to make transfer to that is all you should know , i am not a kid so everything i said is right . If you still want to receive your fund kindly look for the fee and send it tomorrow otherwise i wil let the federal authority to divert your fund since it was still yet to be claim by you.

If you know the best you can do to safe your fund better do it right now i promise you will forever be grateful if you follow my instruction at the end

Pam tries to corner him again:

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Mr. Ben,

Perhaps if you can give me proof that your account is legitimate I can send it to my bank to expedite the decision-making process so that they will unfreeze my account? I cannot do anything - use my bank card, withdraw or deposit funds from my account - until it is unfrozen!!!

Pam

Mr. Ben refuses and gives some... interesting... advice:

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You can call wells Fargo to confirm from them even your bank can call as well, so now i rest my case on asking you to make sure you get this clear up with your bank tomorrow morning , Everything now bas on the bank to confirm it because the account is not suspicious

Kindly visit different location tomorrow and make confirmation to know reason bank will easily froze your account. You can even put your fee on the ground and shout at the bank so they can let you have your account bank back .

Try and make loud noise for them to release your account do so tomorrow and let me know what the outcome after you talk to them with very loud voice .

It’s at this point that we welcome a new character: Pam’s husband, Norman, who contacts Mr. Ben late the next day!

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Good evening,

My name is Norman Sifter, Pam’s husband. Pam was arrested and jailed today after going to her bank to try to convince them to reopen her bank account. Apparently she started screaming at the bank teller in a fit of stress and rage and it escalated to the police getting called and hauling her off to jail. I can’t afford to bail her out.

She recently told me about this whole thing with you emailing her about winning $15 million or some shit. She’s been losing sleep over this money and the freezing of her bank account was the last straw. I hope to God you’re not fucking around because this money is costing us a lot more than it should at this point

This should be fun! Let’s see if Mr. Ben responds!

Baiting Guru Joined: 25 Jul 2017 Posts: 2107

Beautiful plot twist! Hope Mr Ben does just turn tail and run.

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:28 am

I'll be watching this. Thanks for the laugh.

419Eater is my life Joined: 28 Nov 2014 Posts: 312

Great read.

Master Baiter Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 117

This is great! I'm doing a lot of reading of straight baits for learning purposes. *I* was getting pissed off at this guy for refusing to understand that the account was frozen!! My gawd!!!

The lad made no point to hide the fact that the MG recipient was in fact a mule LOL!!!!

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:58 pm

Fantastic start to your journey. Evidently you can see that a MG transfer will not be possible. It might be worth retrying the transaction with a bankwire transfer. Once he sends you the wire details report it to a mod and they will ensure the mules bank is shut. Very Happy

Thanks for the laugh and good luck!

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