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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:52 pm

I guess the Scam Victim Compensation Fund does not keep thorough and complete records of their contacts Smile

Never under estimate the greediness of the scammer lads I guess.

One of my characters had a bait started with a lad last year. Went back and forth with him for a couple of weeks with my standard no WU/MG and I will only do bank transfer. At the time the lad wasn't having it. He absolutely insisted on WU/MG transaction and back in August I never replied to this email.

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What is going no now because am waiting to hear from you with the payment details with this information to enable proceed on the transfer immediately to your bank account because that is the only delay we have now to get every thing done please .

Here is the information to send the fee

Receiver name ;;;;;;;;;;;
Address ;;;;
AMOUNT::::::::$2500 USD

Thank
Your sincerely
Mr. Godwin Raymond
Director Of Scam Victim Compensation payment

Well I hadn't used this character in a while and as such hadn't logged in until late last week. Was cleaning up the in box when I came across this and figured what the hell...so I simply, after months replied with this....

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I am in need of ACH banking info to send the fee via bank wire transfer

To my surprise I got a response (lad using same email address) but Mr Godwin Raymond is not who I got the response from. I guess with all the corruption in the Scam Victim Compensation Payment office it should not surprise me that MR Godwin Raymond was replaced by a MR Adams Harry Smile

who without delay sent me a piggy....

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Hello Mr. Philip how are you doing today And also your family .I got your mail this morning contents understood and well note. You can made the payment below this bank information. Please once you send it kindly you get back to us immediately with the transfer slip okay .

See the Account details below. Bank Name: United Bank of Africa Benin Republic Account holder Name: <reported> Account Number: <reported> Swift Code: COBB BJ BJ Iban Code: BJ 18 2106701514 514500007985 61 Country: Republic Of Benin Bank Address: Lot n°266 Qtier Ségbèya Sud. Branch Area: Guichet Ségbèya

We are waiting to hear from you okay .

Of course this was good news, glad to hear I did not lose my compensation fund because of failure to respond....so of course I logged right into my bank account and sent the transfer

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Good Evening, Payment has been effected

but what have we here, MR Godwin is back? And Mr Godwin is responding from Mr Adams account? Wonder if he was hacked ?

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Hello Mr. Philip,

You should send the payment receipt to me.

Yours sincerely,

Mr. Godwin Raymond

Director of Scam Victim Compensation payment.

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Hello

Receipt?
I do all my banking on line. It is paperless. There is no receipt.
Welcome to the 21st century.

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Attn; Philip,

You should forward to me the confirmation alert. there must be confirmation message of any online transfer and it is what needed from you.

Mr Philip keeps addressing his emails to Mr Adams and Mr Goodwin keeps responding. Also Mr Philip signed an email with another characters name (D'OH) but the lad doesn't seem to notice/care

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Mr Adams,

Yes after I effected the transfer the banking website showed a confirmation screen, but I did not think to take a screen shot. I contacted my bank and tried to get a confirmation certificate and the banking manager said they don't really do that but also explained why it is unnecessary. He said that as long as you have the amount, who it was from, when it was from, and the bank it came from, your bank can track it down. It should be in your account but it may be hung up. I remember one time I was waiting on a deposit to my account that was not showing up and when I went in and asked them to look into it, they were able to find it in their system and post it immediately.
You obviously have my name and the dollar amount. The date it was transferred was 2/13/2018 and it was transferred from my bank which is First Financial in Olympia Fields Illinois.

I am sorry I did not think to take a screen shot of the confirmation screen when I did the transfer, but you don't need it with the information I provided. Just head down to your bank, give them the information I gave you above and they will release the money if it has not already been posted to your account.

I anxiously await your reply.

Josson

Ahh yes...must have receipt for "official documentation"

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Attn; Mr. Philip,

Please you should go to your bank and ask them to print for you the confirmation receipt of that transfer, because it is needed here for official documentation!

Philip does not like taking the time to write email that is not read....

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Mr Adams,

Did you not read my previous email? Please go back and re read my previous email. I DID CONTACT MY BANK. I explain that in my previous email, along with what the banking manager tell me. Follow his instruction.

More to come

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:08 pm

What is this? The lad decides we should wait for the transfer? Love it when a lad creates his own delay...and on a Thursday Smile

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Hello Mr. Philip,

Let's wait for a while, as it is international transaction, it may take up to five working days to reflect.

Philip is relieved as now we have 5 working days from last Thursday the 15th to wait....or do we.

Later on the 15th....

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Hello Mr. Philip,

Please you should go back to your bank and let them call the money back because the authority here said that a confirmation of the fund transfer must be submitted. Please I wouldn’t want your money loss; you should go now because without any confirmation no money will be drawn from the account.

Phil is none too pleased....

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I do not like the game you are playing. I will not recall the money. My banking manager told me all that is needed for you to withdraw said money when it hits your account.

I did my part...now you need to do your job!

So after the lad says we should wait five working days, comes back same day kicking and screaming, then on Friday the 16th ...

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It seems that you are not serious at all! You should call the money back if really that you sent any money! but if you don’t, all are left to you but to ask me anything concerning the fund, you must provide a transaction proof from your bank or however you think to do it.

Phil responds on Sunday the 18th....

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Sir,

You do realize was the weekend right? Of course I am serious. Why would I waste my time sending you email and transfer money if I was not serious? NOT MUCH I CAN DO WHEN THE BANK IS CLOSED ON THE WEEKEND you imbecile.

Cool your jets shithead. I can not do anything until tomorrow.

Relax

Phil wakes up to this

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Attn; Philip Swine,

You have to be serious about this or I will terminate this your rubbish attitude! I have seen that you have become a family-suidae

Phil has to give the lad a lesson on how to count.

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Sir,

Once again we don't communicate well. You do realize it is only 630 am right? I am as serious about this as I was over the weekend...here is the problem....
THE BANK IS NOT OPEN YET. And as I sit here and type this today is a government holiday in the USA and the banks will not be open today.

So there is nothing that I can do until tomorrow morning on this matter.

So you need to sit the fuck down, and chill the fuck out with your bullshit attitude.

Nothing I can do at this point until tomorrow morning.

Fucking relax

I think Phil needs to show him how serious he is by hammering the point home....

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Sir,

You need to relax. On THURSDAY the 15th you stated that it can take up to five working days for an international banking transaction and that we should wait. It has only been ONE working day since you sent that email...Friday. Saturday and Sunday are weekend days, All transactions at US banks on Saturdays don't post until the next working day which is usually Monday but today is a govt holiday so tomorrow, Tuesday the 20th will be TWO WORKING DAYS. If it can take up to FIVE WORKING DAYS we can discuss same later in the week.

You need to relax.

And for good measure....

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Sir,

Do they have Sesame Street in your country? Sesame Street is a very good show for young children, teaches them among other things how to count. I guess it could be equally effective in teaching directors of scam victim compensation funds how to count to five as well. I suggest you spend a few minutes and watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBf-hL3bmU

Now lets apply what we learned to this situation.

Working days or business days are not Saturday, Sunday or Holidays.

the 15th was day 1
the 16th was day 2

the 17th was Saturday-not a business day
the 18th was Sunday-not a business day
today is 19th-President's day-not a business day

Tomorrow is 20th...day 3
Wednesday is 21st...day 4
Thursday is 22nd...day 5

If I was not serious would I have taken the time to teach you how to count?

Relax ... it has only been two business days.

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:40 pm

Well,

This was a shocker. My character did not accuse him of being a scammer. Things that make one go hmmmm. Got a phony website. Does that count for anything?

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Here is my website : www.mypfcu.org/eservices/wire-transfer-info.

The truth I want you to know is that I am not a scammer and has never scammed anybody since my life as a civil servant. All men are not the same and you are very, very lucky to have me as the person handling your fund release. I will wipe the tears from your eyes and put smiles on your face. I advise you to give me the benefit of doubt and cooperate with my advice and pay this required fee$2500 for the release of your fund.

Maybe you deceive and scam by those who trying to claim what they are not, My brother to be very sincerely with you, you do not need to be delaying your fund because am 100% sure and guarantee that you will receive your fund immediately the fee is be confirm from you

Moreover advise you to read this mail very well and abide with advise therein by getting back to us with the day or date you will send the fee ok because that is what holding your fund not yet reflect in your bank account or we will ship it to your home address.

I wait to hear from you

Thank you

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:45 pm

Fake sites definitely count. Take the fake site's details to Fake Scammer Banks & Sites and post it there.

Lads can indeed become obsessed with getting payment slips. Hearken to the "US Ambassador" going crazy over the lack of one: https://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=286456

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:43 am

Well it was curious that the lad made it a point to try to sell me on the fallacy that he is not a scammer....

So my character "tried" to use that to his advantage >>>>

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Sir,

Who said anything about you being a "scammer"? I find it curious that you made it a point to sell me on the fact that you are not a scammer...something that had not even entered my mind until you brought it up.

As you correctly pointed out, international bank transfers can take up to five BUSINESS days to clear. I am also very concerned that you are asking me to send a payment that has already been sent.

It has only been TWO business days. I checked with my bank today and it they said that while it has not been posted yet it is showing "in process" and my bank manager assures me there is nothing to worry about.

My bank manager explained to me that it can take UP TO five days for international bank transfers to post. Many times they post before five days. It may very well post tomorrow.

But there is nothing I can do nor is there anything my bank can do to speed it up. We have to wait five business days to take any further action.

While you being a scammer did not enter my mind, and while it is curious that you brought that up, I appreciate you sharing your company's website and your back story.

I am sure you will be verifying payment received by weeks end.

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:45 am

Yastreb,

That audio is comedy gold ! Very Happy

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:06 am

Well it looks like we are having pork for dinner. Me thinks a piggy was slaughtered Very Happy

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No tell them to recall the transfer back okay i will provide you another account to make the transfer to enable us complete this transaction without any more delay again .

Thanks

Nothing like waking up to the sweet smell of bacon Very Happy

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:37 am

Might be dead Sad

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Good Morning.

Well this is concerning. Is there a problem? I will call my bank first thing this morning and will be standing by for your instructions.

lad:

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okay

PB:

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Where is the account information so that I may effect the transfer?

PB: had to poke him again

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What is this delay on your end?

lad:

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Send it through western union or money Gram

Name Jeffrey oke
City /Cotonou Benin Republic

PB:

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Why are we back to Western Union? You told me you would get me another account to effect the transfer why are you playing these games?

lad:

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SEND IT THROUGH WESTERN UNION OR MONEY GRAM OR YOU LIVE IT .

Thanks

"or you live it?" what is the poor lad trying to say here?

PB:

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Bank account as agreed upon.
Why did you have me recall the transfer?
bank account as agreed upon.
quit playing games

PB:

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Why the delay
You clearly said the following
"
"No tell them to recall the transfer back okay i will provide you another account to make the transfer to enable us complete this transaction without any more delay again ."

So PROVIDE THAT ACCOUNT so that I may make the transfer without delay again

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:24 pm

Well PB does not like delays....

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Asshole,

What is the problem here?

And again the lad needs a poke

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Sir,
You have been concerned about delays since the start. Now it is YOU causing the delay. What is the problem here?

Ahh the lad is having a meeting with the federal govt....

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Is because you like to joke with your fund that is why. and federal government have meeting tomorrow Maybe they will divert to their own account because you like to joke with us .

PB is really upset now.....

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NO one is fucking joking here but you asshole.

I sent the fucking money. YOU said it could take up to 5 business days. Then YOU told me to recall the fucking money and you would give me another account. Then YOU come back with some WU/MG bullshit. YOU are the one joking.

I am standing fucking by to make the transfer and YOU are joking around.

Get your shit together. I guess if the federal government has a meeting and they divert the funds we BOTH lose don't we dumbass?

Now if you simply get me a proper bank account, I can make the fucking transfer and we can put this transaction behind us.

You are the one fucking around here. Not me

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:55 am

Sometimes a slap is all it takes.
Greed?

Here is the below account details

IBAN: BJ11 21067 01515 515550013467 71
SWIFT CODE: COBBBJBJ
ACCOUNT NAME:<reported>
BANK NAME: UBA Bank
COUNTRY: BENIN REPUBLIC
CITY: COTONOU
Bank address : No 44 Akpakpa dodomey Cotonou Benin Republic
Zip Code 300271
Account number <reported>
Please make sure you snap the confirmation screenshot of the transfer and send it to be for confirmation and record purposes.

Elite Baiter Joined: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 1300

Well done. I love it when lads go crazy trying to get confirmation of payment. I suspect (and people can correct me if I'm wrong) that the lads are so keen on bank payment slips so they can prove the money has been deposited and get their money from the mule/account owner. Of course lads don't seem to understand that you don't need a payment slip to collect money from a bank account (as Yastreb so eloquently explained to the ambassador) - that phone call is pure gold).

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:45 pm

Well my character is cantankerous and old. Bit upset today. SO why not slap the lad around a little bit more.....

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I am going to the bank later today and making sure it goes through on my end without a problem...just like the last one went out without a problem.

Hopefully you have your shit together this time and there will be no further delays because of your incompetence

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:54 am

Well I am trying to get him off the "receipt" but not having much luck...

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I did not make it to the bank before they close. Will go first thing in the morning.

Lad acknowledged with a humble OK

Blew him off yesterday...from this morning

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Transfer has been effected. It actually did not happen until later yesterday. I need to go back to the bank today and get the ridiculous receipt you ask for. As you are aware-itnernational transfer can take up to 5 working days. I did not make it before 3 yesterday so it did not post until today.

I will forward receipt you don't need when I return home this evening.

its this evening and PB comes home to

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Am waiting to hear from you with the receipt copy.

Thanks

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:52 pm

OK so...is this lad dumb or what? He is more focused on the receipt than the money.

PB creates a bit of a delay....

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Good Evening,

I was not able to get my scanner working so I had to take a picture with my phone. I have an older phone so I hope it is clear enough.
I got two emails from my bank this afternoon. One saying the transfer was posted and another one that came in about an hour later saying I need to come to the bank in the morning to verify the transfer. Any idea what that is all about?

That has never happened before. There had better not be issues on your end again. I will let you know what I find out.

And wouldn't you now it PB forgot to attach the receipt...so in an show of good faith he sends it immediately....

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I think I forgot the attachment...here you go

With a little bit of help from
http://www.fakefilegenerator.com/generate-file.php
of course the lad can't figure out how to open it. But this lad is more focused on the stupid receipt than the problem at the bank....

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This is what the receipt wrote , No preview available ) so resend it well if you real sure that you made the transfer okay to avoid problem

Gonna be fun to slap him around later for not knowing how to open a file....PLUS the issues with the transfer....

Baiting Guru Joined: 25 Jul 2017 Posts: 2107

I have been asking the lads for the mules home address (req'd for international transfers in Canada of course!) and then telling them I did as instructed and mailed the paper receipt to the mule for proof. The ballistic reactions from the lads are wonderful reading! And this gives me the opportunity to sow seeds of distrust between lad and mule stating that I am sure they will report this deposit immediately.........

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:24 am

oooh that could be fun

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:45 am

Sparky...lets see if this works Laughing

My character does not slap the lad too much about not knowing how to open a picture....

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Good Evening,

The picture of the receipt here says no preview available too for some reason but when I click on it the photo opens and it displays just fine. Did you click on it and open it? Or are you worried about the preview?
Well that is not important now. We have a different and real issue.
I went to see the banking manager today. I have only done one other international banking transfer in the past and it was not a problem.

But for some reason, and my banking manager is not sure why either, but the transfer is being held up for verification. They are asking for the home address and/or email of the account holder. Says it is some new homeland security requirement here in the US. It is news to me as well.

So if you can provide me that address and email I can shoot over to the bank tomorrow submit it for verification and get a receipt showing it was effected and posted. I am not sure when this regulation changed here in the states ... but that is what I am being told we need by my banking manager before the transfer can be effected and not rejected.

Standing by to stand by

Baiting Guru Joined: 25 Jul 2017 Posts: 2107

fingers crossed it works......."bank policy" is always a good cover for things we mere mortals do not understand.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:34 pm

Well so far nothing.... Sad

Anyone want to play a corrupt banker or associate of the banker? Maybe my character screwed up, left the printed email in at the bank when he did the transfer so the banker made up this phony story and is chopping his dolla?

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Good Morning,

Banking hours today are 8-1

What do I tell my banking manager? I don't know what is going on here. I would like to get this resolved ASAP

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:01 pm

Give him another day or two to respond. If he stays away, give him a poke.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:41 pm

Well I got a reply....and I think I really need a corrupt banker to chop his dolla?

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Do what ever you like to do okay.

Simple one line reply

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I would like to effect this transfer and need your help as stated above.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:18 pm

Well the lad is so focused on this stupid payment receipt he completely ignored the problem at hand

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Please am not understand you " You told me that the transfer was affected so give me the payment slip to prove that you made the payment or stop contacting us please

Time to slap the lad around a bit again....

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Sir...

You were sent the payment slip. Did you not read anything else I sent you after that? Please see below. Read EVERYTHING in bold, and answer accordingly. You are focused on a bullshit receipt you can't figure out how to open that you don't even need to withdraw the money, and ignoring the actual problem we seem to be having. Once again I admonish you to get your shit together. Delays because of your incompetence are really beginning to piss me off. Now Please See Below and respond accordingly and respond ASAP so that I may complete the verification with my bank and you can get this fucking money and we can conclude our business. This is bullshit. Now see below and give me the info I need to verify the transfer with my bank, so that I can get you an updated receipt but MORE IMPORTANTLY get the money moving. The writing in bold is what I sent you THREE FUCKING DAYS AGO and I was not able to deal with it on Saturday because you have your head up your ass. You are wasting my time and you are going to fuck up my fund. I am sure you make money from administering these funds so you are going to lose money too if this goes bad. So once again get your shit together and do your fucking job. This is bullshit

Good Evening,

The picture of the receipt here says no preview available too for some reason but when I click on it the photo opens and it displays just fine. Did you click on it and open it? Or are you worried about the preview?
Well that is not important now. We have a different and real issue.
I went to see the banking manager today. I have only done one other international banking transfer in the past and it was not a problem.

But for some reason, and my banking manager is not sure why either, but the transfer is being held up for verification. They are asking for the home address and/or email of the account holder. Says it is some new homeland security requirement here in the US. It is news to me as well.

So if you can provide me that address and email I can shoot over to the bank tomorrow submit it for verification and get a receipt showing it was effected and posted. I am not sure when this regulation changed here in the states ... but that is what I am being told we need by my banking manager before the transfer can be effected and not rejected.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:14 pm

Well Phil just got off the phone with his banker. All this banking mumbo jumbo is very confuseing to this old coot.

So let's cut out the middle man

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Sir,

I just got off the phone with my banking manager, Mr. Ge Mi. He is holding up this transfer and has some questions. He is telling me that this is some new Homeland Security requirement and he is trying to explain this to me and it is not making sense. I am not sure what is going on here. He has asked me to have you contact him for some reason and he will explain this new procedure. He is waiting for a message from you to effect this transfer. He has asked that you contact him at [email protected] He assures me this will only take a few moments and we will be able to proceed with our business.

You are standing by for the transfer. Mr Mi is standing by to hear from you. And I am standing by to hear the transfer has been effected.

Please make this a priority this morning as I would like to complete this ASAP.

Phil

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:36 pm

My character, the corrupt armenian banker Germian Minhaturan is ready to intervene in the story.
I expect your idiot to write a message. Laughing

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:55 pm

The idiot has gone silent. He may need his hand held here....

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Ok what the hell is going on here. I think you stole my money.
Or my banker did. I don't understand what is going on here.

This is what I know. I went to the bank to transfer money for our transaction.

My banker told me this was being held up for verification something to do with homeland security.
he told me to get back with you for this information.

You have gone silent. I went back to the bank to recall my money and my banker tells me that without requested verification homeland security will seize my money.

I Called Homeland Security and they know nothing of these "new procedures"

Did you steal my money?

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