A lad stuck on Photo ID request

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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:29 am

Well it has been an interesting 2 weeks. I have had on the hook this strange lad called Stephen that seems to be always wanting some form of photo ID. I have sent various forms of Blurred images, corrupted files and files that can not be opened but still he insists on Photo ID I am surprised he has not dropped me yet as I even sent a insult or two at him the other day, but he still insists on photo ID Drivers Licence or Passport.

It all starts out with a email that arrived in my RL Business email as I occasionally get these. A lawyer in USA wanting to launder some cash of a dead client blah blah blah won’t put you all to sleep by putting his script in here. Flake replies wanting a very straight bait and some pork as I had been having a run of bad luck with lads wanting ID and then dropping me when they did not get it.

But the lad Sent me a shocking passport scan that I think is identity theft now and it is what he is aiming for with my character.

Stephen wrote:

Thank you very much for your response, we have already put everything in place and done
the necessary arrangement.

I will need you to send the following details for the to
complete the paper work as the next of kin:

First Name:
Last Name:
Address:
Nationality:
Occupation:
Telephone Number:
Age:
Means of identification: Scanned copy of either Driver's License or
International Passport:

Attached to this message is a copy of my passport for proper identification

Thanks for your understanding and hope to hear from you soon

The ID he gave me

From here it is let the fun begin. The back and forth starts with me emailing him stating that I have just applied for a Passport and I will have it in 4 to 6 weeks. This did not work so I sent him a blurred Licence image from the Scambaiting toolbox site at him this was also not accepted so I sent a 4mb unable to be opened fake Jpeg at him this also did not work so my character for this is my main character I use for most baits questioned his computer skills.

Flake wrote:

Dear Mr Briggs,

You Were the one That Contacted me, With This Bacuse I had the Last Name as Your Late Client.

You now Hound me With Requests for ID and I Have Sent it to you a few Time s now all of Them I can Open and View. But for Some Reason Either Your Computer is not up to the job of Opening Them or you are Doing Something to Them so They Will not Open Properly.

I do not Even Know who you are Proper all you Have Given me is Some Funny Looking Passport.

Whoops he may have dropped me with that as I did not get any more emails from him so I poked him and he was still alive and asking for photo ID.

Stephen wrote:

I am still waiting for you to send your ID so we can continue

Ok Lets abuse him again slightly

Flake wrote:

Mr Briggs,

I Have Sent my ID to you Twice now Both of Them Open Fin for me and are Able to be Viewed. I am not Sure why you are nit Able to see Them Clearly or Open Them.

Also if you keep insisting for my ID I am going to have to ask you for better ID than you have provided me.

Whoops that annoyed him I think. Very Happy

It is almost sig worthy.

Stephen wrote:

YOU have to send them in the f=right format so i can open them if i was able to open them i wont ask for more

thank you

So does some more abuse work. Well at least shouting at him all Caps from Flake for this email

Flake wrote:

MR Briggs

WHAT CAN YOU NOT READ ENGLISH. I HAVE SENT IT TO YOU MULTIPLE TIMES AND YET YOU CANNOT OPEN WHAT I CAN ARE YOU A LAWYER DOWN ON HIS LUCK AND CAN NOT AFFORD A GOOD COMPUTER?

YOU ARE GETTING REALLY ANNOYING.

NOW HERE IS WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO.

YOU NOW NEED TO SEND ME A BETTER ID THAN YOU HAVE YOU ARE A LAWYER SO YOU CAN PROVIDE ME WITH SOME SORT OF WORK ID TO GO WITH YOUR PASSPORT. I ALSO NEED SOME PROOF THAT THIIS MONEY IS REAL.

I AWAIT YOU RESPONSE SO WE CAN CONTINUE.

Whoops Flake is now uneducated in the use of Computers and he did not comply with my request

Stephen wrote:

maybe you are not learned enough to send pictures why dont you look for someone who knows what he/she is doing to help you

thank you

So at this point I am lost as he really wants some form of Photo ID I suspect for identity theft with the information he already has from Flake. Step in Sky to scan Flake's Old Passport but it does not go as an attachment but as an upload to Sky’s Goolgle Drive but the link for download sent to Stephen was a Grabify link to get his IP address as I was a little curious and it is a UK IP address but I know this could be a proxy or VPN I was only curious to see as all others have been USA in email headers.

So the lad replies and I die laughing. He attaches the front cover of an Australian Passport I uploaded to Sky’s Google Drive and wrote this.

Stephen wrote:

Here is the passport copy you scan i saw it but you scan the back cover is that how it works ? i sent you mine and the page was open i expect you to send a scanned copy of the page where your data are

thank you

At this point I give up on him I really suspect that he may just be doing Identity theft in the form of phishing and not be a lad worth baiting.

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:10 am

"At this point I give up on him I really suspect that he may just be doing Identity theft in the form of phishing and not be a lad worth baiting."

Yes, you are right!
Ask for his physical address and tell him that you are sending him a copy of your passport with the regular postal service.

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:55 am

Recently a bait came to a premature end over ID.

The demand...

Quote:

Now, you should in a copy of your international passport.

... Was met with

Quote:

It's illegal under the Patriot Act to scan American passports; in any event identity theft is too big a risk. You should not have sent me a copy of yours in the first place. What I can offer is my passport number and social security number, both of which you can easily verify with the US embassy.

The Lad was OK with that, provided that I gave a copy of

Quote:

any government issued ID like driver's license

No way, Bubba-Louie.

Quote:

Ever since an insurgent IED left me with perforated eardrum, a driving license is out of the question; plus, what I said about identity theft still obtains - do you hand out your ID to every Charlie who asks for it? Goes against everything I've been taught, dude.

The Lad was not OK with that:

Quote:

you are not capable, willing & ready to handle this transaction on my behalf since you cannot follow through with my advice & instructions. I could sent you my passport copy how come you are slothful in sending yours to begin the transaction process?

But Mal wasn't giving way.

Quote:

I ain't being slothful, Bubba-Louie - fact is that scanning and sending a passport is a Federal offense, and has been since 9/11.

The Lad held his ground:

Quote:

so do you want to tell me now that it's only you that the federal law affects? why are oher people sending their passports copies and doing international transactions successfully?

Mal held his.

Quote:

If other people get greedy and break the law, why should I follow their lead? Equally, if they're stupid enough to risk identity theft into the bargain, why should I follow their lead? Also - "why are oher people sending their passports copies and doing international transactions successfully?" - how often do you do business over email like this?

The Lad was incredulous:

Quote:

that means you are living in the centuries already far past !

Mal's response...

Quote:

Dude, you ain't living in the real world!

... Was the end of the exchange.

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:47 pm

Not sure what the story is behind how the original guy's ID was stolen, but lads have been posing as Steven B for years. So, the lad is probably not actively collecting passports for identity theft (or he'd have a more recent and less used one). As Yas pointed out, some lads will just be stuck on the ID. Maybe they've been burned or run into other lads in the past.

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:28 pm

Well he did not like Flake's last 2 emails

Flake wrote:

Briggs YOU FOOL,

YOU ARE A VERY BAD LAWYER ARN’T YOU? YOUR CLIENTS KEEP REALLY DYING TO USE YOUR SERVICES.

YOU WANTED AND ASKED FOR MY HELP I HAVE TRIED TO DO WHAT YOU WANT BUT IT SEEMS TO NOT BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU, YOUR COMPUTER OR COMPUTER SKILLS.

IF THIS IS TO CONTINUE YOU DRONGO YOU WILL DO THE FOLLOWING AS I AM DONE WITH TRYING TO SEND PHOTO ID TO AN IDIOT THAT CAN NOT OPEN IT PROPERLY YOU QUESTION MY COMPUTER SKILLS IT IS YOURS THAT ARE A PROBLEM NOT MINE.

I WANT FROM YOU TONIGHT MORE PROOF IF THIS MONEY AND FURTHER VALID ID FROM YOU NOT A PASSPORT THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT FAKE PIECE OF CRAP YOU SENT ME

Yes Aussie Slang found it way into that reply from Flake have been wanting to do it for a while now.

Stephen wrote:

you were able to see mine and i could not see yours so that makes me better than you and more reasonable

Hmm.. Flake does not like being blamed for the lads problems so if he really wants it he will need to get it by snail mail.

Flake wrote:

Briggs,

You Think That Makes you Better Than me how Much of a F....... IDIOT you are.

So how About you Send me Your Real Physical Address and I Will Send you a Copy of my Passport in the Mail Tomorrow.

Stephen wrote:

Am no longer interested you can keep your passport you dont deserve such an amount of money am giving you

thank you.

And a parting shot from Flake to be sure.

Flake wrote:

Briggs,

Bye Bye Then. I Checked my Email This Morning and see That you do not Want to do This Any More oh well you are Still an Idiot and a Fool.

Well that was a fun little play. I expect to hear from him again as he does like to have the last word.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:44 am

That's too bad he's stuck on an ID. I usually ignore the request, redirect with some questions and that's. that. If they do keep requesting, I have some files to send them.

I had some fun with my old student ID from my college years long ago that I found tucked away in a drawer. I've scanned the back of it, which means lads get to stare at a white rectangle with a black stripe. I've played with it in Photoshop giving me scans that were too blurry, too bright or too small to read. I've cropped out a portion of the photo and blown it up extremely large to send to them. What scanner doesn't want to get a huge file containing nothing but a portion of my shoulder? It was a lovely green shirt I was wearing for that ID. I figured they'd like to see that wonderful shade of green.

They usually move on after assuming I'm too stupid to work a scanner.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:41 am

@Rowan - I tried most of those but he is like a stuck record nothing makes him move on to something else as it did with another lad I currently have on the go. I think I have 1 or 2 of my student ID’s still here somewhere may have to fire up the scanner and do something with them as well.

Well I has all collapsed into the slinging of insults may be time to pull out the Australian Slang Dictionary and see how much he understands.

So after Flake’s bye bye email to him in my previous post I got this from him and I’ll call it a sig worthy quote even if others won't

Stephen wrote:

maybe you should learn how to read and write, so you can read signs and dont fall into a pit.

Well lets see if he still wants to play shall we.

Flake wrote:

So you Still Want to Email me.

Do you Want to Prove to me now That you are a Lawyer and Send me Some Different Photo ID or are you Just Trying to be a Little Child?.

An now 79 year old Flake needs to go back to school apparently

Stephen wrote:

even if i show you any ID you wont be able to read all you see is picture so is not important

go back to school, is not too late for u

Now thats not nice Flake needs to have some fun so

Flake wrote:

Steve,

I Tell you What, how About I do a Deal With you. You Send me all the Paperwork you Have on This $16.2 Million USD and all of Your Photo ID’s and I’ll Take my 79 Year old Self Back to School.

But you Being the FOOL you are, you Will Reply just Being Your Childish Self Won’t You?

Your Writing Makes you Look Like you are Only 8 Years old.

Yup he did not like that but he is still trying to be calm about it all

Stephen wrote:

am sorry i was only advising, am happy you just admitted you never sent your ID that makes you unreasoanble

you can go away

The next email Flake sent to him is very NSFW so will not post it here and he responded in kind with also NSFW wording but really screwed up his English. As he is still replying I may just poke him some more over the next few days for fun.

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Posts: 953

Sometimes something like:
My brother/cousin/neighbor is computer smart, I'll explain to them and have him/her email the ID to you.

Knowing brother, etc. would quickly spot a scam, often the scammer will drop the ID request. If that still doesn't work, come back a day or two later about how your brother, etc. explained the scam to you. You'll likely loose him, but at this point the bait was going nowhere. Perhaps the scammer won't be so insistent with the next baiter.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:10 pm

You might be able to push him off track with "I'll find someone with a scanner but that might take a while...how can we move forward with things while we wait? I really need that money."

Chances are you'll get the next step and he'll leave the ID in the rear view mirror.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:14 am

Sending a blurred image or a corrupted file can work but sometimes it turns into a pissing match.

I have always fund it best to say my scanner is not working for some reason. I will fix it or buy a new one. Once I do that I will send you a scanned copy asap. Until then my driver's license number is L1p0f8754. I'm sure with your connections you can check and confirm that on your computer.

Lads like it when you think they have connections to do just that and will move on and forget about wanting your ID. If you're worrying about a savy lad then make a number that doesn't stat with LLPOF. Liar lair pants on fire. However, I never had a lad that put that together.

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