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Mr. Labowski
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:20 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Last year, The Monsignor and I managed to safari a lad from Ghana to Nigeria for a few days.

It didn't go too well for them. "Michael" sent one of his underlings "Richard" to do the deal for him, but he lad just couldn't seem to find the hotel! He went to the wrong place... Idiot!

Here was the last email I sent to him, a year-and-a-half ago...

Quote:
Michael,

That is not Geoffrey's hotel! That simple bushman you sent to handle this business went to the wrong location!

I am going to bed. It is the middle of the night here and I don't have the time nor energy to deal with this nonsense right now. I recommend that you tell that fool you sent to Abuja to call Geoffrey and complete this deal.

I cannot believe how your man Richard cannot even find a fucking hotel. Simply unbelievable.

Dan


Obviously, the deal fell through and I ignored him for over a year. I decided to poke him a while back, and despite our prior failed dealings, we moved forward to work on a deal.

Fast forward to now, and Dan has agreed to fly to Accra to meet with the lad. He is supposed to be waiting at the airport:

Quote:
Hello Dan, I have been waiting your response to my mail until now I have not heard back from you. This whole thing kept me thinking if you will really be in Accra today as you said with your flight schedule. Anyway, I have been waiting to receive your passport copy to enable me identify you once you arrive. You can call me on +233 05XXXXXXXX or email me.

Michael


As Dan was landing, this fool is still emailing him asking for scans of his passport... not good.

Quote:
Where the fuck were you?!? You were not at the airport waiting for me. No one was there waiting for me?!?!?

What is this bullshit!?! You are asking me to scan passports and other such rubbish while I am traveling. This is unbelievable. I am finding a taxi now and going to arrange a hotel for myself. This is truly ridiculous! How hard is it to wait for my flight and hold a sign with my name? I will contact you when I get hotel arrangements. I am tired from my flights.

Regards, Dan


I like the way that we talk to each other. It will only get better from here. Very Happy

Quote:
Dan, don't be a foolish person. I have been writing you mail since the last mail you sent me which is just day after I received your flight schedule. How are my supposed to come pick you after waiting your message and did not get any. If this his how u do ur business then I'm sorry to say you are such an unserious person to do business with. Well get a taxi and ask the taxi to take you to GS Plaza Hotel.

Let me know when you are there. I will be waiting


Quote:
Dan I hope it doesn't take you another 12 months to respond to my mail. Very Happy You ack like you are in scene. You know you are traveling and you did not find it necessary to make sure you stay in contact as much as you can to avoid what just happened. Anyway I am still waiting for your call.


Quote:
Hello Dan, this is the third mail I'm writing you since I got your mail yesterday. Call me and let me know how we can meet this morning. It's so obvious that until now I have not received any response or call from you.

What do you want me to believe? That you are in Ghana or that you are a serious minded person who is here for business? Hmmm

Anyway I will wait your call if you still want to deal with us.


Dan is pissed...

Quote:
Michael,

I am frustrated beyond words, but I am going to calm down and choose my words carefully. At this point I have had many frustrations. The taxi man who drove me from the airport has taken me to a hotel called the Vienna City Hotel. He took me clear out of the city in some other place called Tema. He clearly knew that I didn't know where i was going and took me all around the city just to collect more fare from me. Truly frustrating.

I will be here at the hotel. Come here and get me and we can move forward with this. I am frustrated but surely we can move forward and put this error you made behind us. Please email me when you get here.

Regards, Dan


Just a short 10-mile drive out of town shouldn't be a big deal. But he's lazy and really wants to get me on the phone.

Quote:
Call me in the number I send you. Or send me a phone number to call you on.
Call me on 056099XXXX


Quote:
Dan i can't come to pick you there just communicating of email. Send me a number to reach you on. Or better still call me on the number I sent you.
Ask the hotel receptionist or anyone to assist you. I will be waiting your call.


Dan hasn't gotten a new SIM card yet, so he can't make calls.

Quote:
My phone doesn't work here!! Just come and get me I am at the Vienna City Hotel. They are telling me that Tema is basically just outside of Accra.

Regards, Dan


Michael FINALLY agrees to send someone to pick up Dan.

Quote:
Yes tema is outside Accra. I'm sending someone to come pick you up. Therefore try and get a means to call me. You are not a child my friend. Find a way to call me. Then I will give the number you call me with to the person who I will send to pick you for easy communication.


Quote:
Without call there is know way to find you. When when I send someone to pick you how would they identify you with call? I guess you should understand better by now


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Dan from the look of things I think you are unserious. If up to this time you have not been able to call me, I guess you are not a serious person.

The hotel where u said you are have a phone.

I can't come there and start to ask anyone I see about you. I don't even know you in person and can't come to the hotel to be asking anyone I see about Dan. That sound stupid. If you can't call me then you must be a joker.


Quote:
Dan do you just decide not to reply to my message or what? What's going on? If you don't want to buy from us anymore please kindly confirm that.


Quote:
Dan send me the hotel phone number and room number where you are. I will be waiting to receive it and find a way out.


Dan reprimands him for doing business like a child.

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What a child you are. You are so insistent that I hold your hand through every small step of this process. As if you were my Granddaughter. I don't understand how it is possible that you are a successful gold miner when you find it so difficult to come and pick me up? Ridiculous.

It is becoming apparent to me that thinking that you could handle this business was a mistake. Fortunately, I was prepared for such nonsense, and have contact from other Ghanaian gold sellers. I will find some gold to buy while I am here. You clearly are not a man that can handle such business.

Regards, Dan


Let's see how he reacts to the insults...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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Dan I told you I was not around and asked for number to reach you on so that it will be possible for the person I will be sending to pick you. Anyway I have also asked you to send me your room number and hotel phone number. I sent you this mail since morning which you just responded now. Send me what I ask for. Will come pick you tomorrow morning.


Quote:
Hello Dan, send me the hotel phone number and your room number so that I can call the hotel when I'm coming to inform you when I come around to pick you up tomorrow morning to my office so that you can see the gold.

Then we can go for testing


Dan gives him one more chance:

Quote:
Meet me in the lobby at 8:00 am sharp. If you are not there, I will find another gold seller.

Regards, Dan


Smug reply:

Quote:
Ok i will be there between 8:30am to 9:00am


^^That BS isn't going to help him complete this gold deal...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Heh! Always good news!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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You ack like you are in scene.


Why does Dan ack that way? Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^Dan will ack any damn well he pleases! Laughing

The next morning he emails Dan, around 9:30am.

Quote:
Hello Dan, good morning. Please be patient with me. I will be coming to pick you up any moment from now. Will email you once I get there.


Quote:
Dan I am at the hotel now. Ask for you from the hotel receptionist and I was told there is know one by the name Dan Hamilton in the hotel. I think I have done my part. I'm leaving the hotel now. You have my number call me.


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Dan I think I have come to realise that you are just a fucking joker. You made me waste my time to the hotel and did not see you. Even the hotel does not have your name in their book as one of their guest.

It's only a foolish person that will travel and I'm able to make call in this century. You call yourself a business man and you act like a stupid man. Very Happy

Anyway like i said if you are interested in doing business with me call me and I will tell you where to meet.


Quote:
Dan I hope you find a genie seller of gold. Meanwhile my advise for you is to be careful. There are lots of scum bags out there. Rolling Eyes Be careful. Be careful. Call me if you think you need me. I have done by part coming to Vienna to meet with you but did not see any white person at the lobby as you said. Even the hotel told me there is know guest with that name Dan Hamilton in the record. Are you playing me or what?

Call me and let us arrange to meet


Dan wasn't waiting for Michael. He clearly told him 8am SHARP!

Quote:
Fuck you Michael. I told you 8:00 SHARP. 8:00 SHARP!! You come back and tell my you'll be there 8:30, 9:00, afternoon, evening, whenever you get there... bullshit. I'm looking for a serious miner to do business with. I came all the way from the United States and you are complaining about a 10 mile drive? Bullshit.

I am making arrangements now with another man that I met through email. He is in a town called Takoradi and he is going to take me to show me his mining site, the gold, and arrange for testing. He seems like a very professional man. Very different from you.

Regards, Dan


Michael didn't like...

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Fuck your too Dan. You must be a crazy asswhole. The reason why I feel pity for you is that very soon you will cry. You think this is US. This is africa. When the time comes you will realise that. You know why I call you a Fukushima man? Because I'm not even convinced you are in Ghana. If you are in Ghana as you claim call me. But meanwhile I feel very sorry for you because you will make the greatest list of your life if truly you are in Ghana and dealing with people who say they have mining site. But any new paper and ready for ur self about illegal miners in the country. I will be very sorry for you if the government of Ghana find you dealing with any of the illegal miners who claims to have a mining site. I'm warning you for the last time. Be careful. I'm telling you thins for old time sake. I don't depend on you to make sales ok. Yesterday night I had a buyer from Hong Kong and we are completing a deal today.

I am surprised that a so called business man will travel and making a call becomes his problem. The hotel where u claim to be does not even have you in their guest list. I think you are one of those fool who are looking for black people to rip off what the have. I'm not that kind of person u can play smart on. Like I said you u are fucking serious about dealing with me call me you asswhole.


Always amusing when a gold lad that you met by email warns you about doing business with illegal gold miners that you meet by email.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dan insults his entire continent:

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You are the asswhole for not following my instructive! You are right it does seem to be different here in Africa. In the USA, business men are generally intelligent enough that they can complete simple tasks like meeting ON TIME. You are most certainly not as smart. Just like when your fool errand boy couldn't find Geoffrey's hotel last year. Unbelievable!

Fortunately I made backup plans, and have met with two very intelligent young men. Mr. Eric, and his good friend Mr. Franklin. We have safely arrived in Takoradi, and in the morning they will take me to their mine near a place called the Ankasa Game Reserve. They are both very polite young men who clearly WANT my business. Once I see the mine and collect some samples of the gold, I will be arranging for a purchase of 6 kilograms.

Regards, Dan


He warns me again:

Quote:
You are the foolish person here. It's only a foolish person that travels without being able to make calls. Stop writing me. I wish you best. But be assured that is at all you are in Ghana you will cry at the end because already I know you will definitely be dealing with scum bags. Mark my words


I gave him 4 days of silence. Then Dan writes him to let him know that he's having some trouble.

Quote:
I think these bastards are scammers! I gave Franklin $22,000.00 USD to cover all the shipping and taxes and he's supposed to meet me here with the gold. I haven't seen the fuckers in 2 days! What is this bullshit? Is Ghana nothing but scammers and fraudstars?! Goddamn it tell me what can I do about this? Should I get the police involved?


Depending on his response, I will either give him another chance to do the deal with me, or have the other lads email him and heckle him over the $22k that they just collected. I'm interested to see what he says.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Good stuff!

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I'm looking forward to seeing where you're able to take this. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

He's got lots of warnings for me:

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Dan I don't know what to call you. You act like a 2 years old boy with know sense. First you have been in Ghana for more than 5 days you don't have a phone you can call with. What a shame to a so called business man like you.

You came to this country if I may guess to meet with me for a business we have been discussing about for over a year. Don't you think you are a stupid man? This will be the last time I will respond to your mail. If you can't call me to talk then you must forget writing me. I could remember sometime ago even before you came to Ghana I have asked you for your phone number which until now you refused to send me.

My friend I don't know if you exist. It's only a fool that travels without making arrangement for a phone call.

What ever you are doing now better stop and do not involve the police. It will be the greatest mistake for you. Where are you at? If you need my help, find a way to call me. Don't be an asswhole.Very Happy


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You want to buy gold on the street. So that is what you get trying to do so. The police will get you arrested for not going through the right means to buy gold. They will charge you for fraud too. Be careful. Call me. You have my number. If you actually need my help call me.


Dan is stredded:

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This whole situations is totally fucked! They took me out in the bush and showed me their mining site! There were about 8 men there, all digging in the dirt and washing it in water. They even showed me several shiny pieces of gold nugget that were smooth and round and very shiny! Then we went back to town and I agreed to the fees as we had arranged by they will not respond to me now.

Goddamn filthy cocksuckers took my money!!

I have to get out of here. I am in some small fucking village at some shitty hotel. I've just been waiting and waiting for Eric and Franklin to come back. I don't understand what you mean by illegal mining? How is mining illegal? And I don't see why I'm not suppose to call the police. Mr. Eric and Franklin are the criminals here not me!!

I am going to get a taxi to the nearest city. I am confident now that those dirty cumsuckers stole my $22,000.00 USD. I still need to buy some gold on this trip for a good price so that I can recover this money that I have lost. My wife Betty will not be happy if I return empty handed.

Regards, Dan

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Dan you are telling stories. If you ever need my help or assistance call me. What so ever you are going through is not my ducking business. If you can't call me stop bogging my mail. Meanwhile here is my little advise for you. If you ever try to report this issue to the police, bet me it's your wife that will come here to find you. The government are fighting illegal miners and that are the people who most have taken you to some fucking mining site. It's one of their game plans. If you report to the police, they will involve you to be one of those white men who come in to finance illegal mining. Be careful and be warned. Like I said don't write me again if you can't call me

All the best.


Quote:
Dan this will be my last message to you through email. If you want my help or want to deal with me, call me on phone.


He really wants to talk. I could call him, but don't like to do what lads tell me to do. He wouldn't be writing to me if he didn't believe I was there...

Quote:
I will send you an SMS from my phone once I am safe. I am getting out of this small village. The people here keep asking me questions and I am very out of place here as a white man. I am sick to my stomach that I have lost this money. I need to find a way to recover some of my money before I return home. I will be in touch. I will send you a message on your phone.

Regards, Dan


Dan is traveling to the nearest city...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I love how freaked out he is over the prospect of Dan going to the police! Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I hope you bog the hell out of his mail.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I just sent him an SMS text message using a Cote d'Ivoire area code. That should alleviate any doubts that I am in Africa.

Sent via SMS:
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Michael its me Dan. I am in Abidjan. Email me. I do not trust phone as the police may track our communication. I got a message from Franklin. Need ur help to catch them. Bastards!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dan follows up with the SMS he sent:

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Did you get my SMS? I am in Abidjan. I need you to come and pick me up here. I think I have a way that I can get my money back from those thieves Eric and Franklin. I will pay for your travel. Just come and get me. We can discuss a plan to recover my lost money and then I will buy some of your gold.

Regards, Dan


Michael is still pissy:

Quote:
Dan you are unprofessional in your way of business and you are not straight forward in your way of life. Live me out of this. It's not my business if you lost money or not.

Stop writing me.

Asshole


Dan asks Michael for help:

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Michael, I don't understand why you are being like this? I am asking for your help here. I have come all this way and still want to buy your gold. I will buy your gold, but I am just trying to recover my lost money!!

I gave your email to Franklin. Very Happy He is telling me to come back to Ghana to collect my gold from the mine but I am not sure because why did it take him all this time to write back to me? I told him I am in Abidjan but I will send you to collect the gold on my behalf alright? You are an experienced miner and will know how to negotiate for me. I told him to write to you and to work out an arrangement. You can send one of your men to pick it up if you want. I also need you to come pick me up in Abidjan.

Help me with all this!! I am not familiar with Africa and nothing is going right!

Regards, Dan


Which he doesn't seem to like:

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Dan I can see the devil is using u to manipulate other people. Fuck you and fuck your whole life. Get off my mail you coward.


Michael seems to be more hostile to Dan with each email. He didn't seem to like that I gave his email to a competing lad. And wouldn't you know it, "Franklin" sent Michael an email last night:

Quote:
GOOD DAY BRODA!!

MR DAN IS NOT SMART GUY OK?? WE COLECT GOOD FUND FROM HIM BUT NOW HE PLAY GAME WIT US HE SAY U GOLD SELER AND GOOD GUY OK?? TELL MR DAN HE CAN TRUST US WIT JUS MISUNDRESTANDING IS ALL AND IF HE GIVE US MORE MONEY WE WILL GIV HIM GOLD HE WIL TRUST U AN IF WE COLECT WE WILL GIV U UR CUT CONVINC MR DAN TO COM BACK TO GHANA AND DO BUSNESS WE TAK CARE OF REST OK??

ONE LUV

UZUMBO


Hopefully he will agree to work with UZUMBO to get more money from Dan.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Good stuff.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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I don't like the way you are talking Michael. Let's just try to calm down here.

Franklin has been writing to me again. He is telling me that they had issues with their phone out at the mining site. I'm not sure if I believe it or not, but the mine was a long way out from any city so maybe he is being honest. But now he is telling me to come back and we will conclude our deal. Michael, I need to purchase gold on this trip. I have been thinking it over and I am able to buy as much as 10 kilograms, but I need to make sure that I can trust Mr. Eric and Mr. Franklin before I make any purchase. Please, I need your advice. If you won't come and get me here and help me purchase gold then fine but at least help me find a reliable gold seller! I would have bought from you if you had been more reasonable with me.

Regards, Dan


I think he's getting tired of Dan:
Quote:

Go to hell and die


Looks like we aren't going to work out a deal...

Quote:
FUCK YOU MICHAEL!! You are so unserious I don't even care I am glad that I am not giving you my money! Luckily I think it was all a misunderstanding. I am meeting again with Eric and Franklin tomorrow, they are coming here to pick me up and we are going back to the mining site to finish our deal. I am buying 10 kilos from them. I am glad that I am not giving that money to you. You have proven yourself to be a childish, foolish, incompetent impotent fool. Good riddance you rubbish being!

No regards, Dan


UZUMBO offers him one last chance to partner up:

Quote:
IT SOUND LIK U HAD ALL CHANCE IN WORLD TO COLLECT FROM D CLIENT BUT U FAIL AT JOB SO WE TAK IT OVER NOW OK??? LOOK MR DAN STIL WANT GOLD WE SHOW DAN MINE SITE AND COLLECT GOOD FIRST PAY BUT WE NEED MOR TO MAKE BOSSMAN HAPPY OK??? STAY ON MAIL NOW WE HAV DAN BELIEFING GHANAIAN GOVEMENT LISTEN TO HIS FONE AND AREST HIM SO HE ONLY EMALE SAME AS US OK?? TELL HIM ERIC AN FRANKLIN R OLD FREND OF U USE TO WORK MINE WIT AND WE ARE GUD TRUSTED MEN OK?? WEN WE COLLECT WE GIV U 20% OF PAY ???

ONE LUV

UZUMBO


No responses from Michael. It looks like this bait has probably fizzled out, but UZUMBO sends one last parting shot at him to confirm the chop and insult him for being such a lousy guyman.

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HAHA TANKS BRODA FOR BLESSING US WIT SUCH A GOOD CLIENT!! WE JUS COLLECT BIG PAY AGAN FROM FOOLISH MUGU GOD TRULY BLES US WIT STUPID AMERICAN. TANKS FOR BEING NOT SMART GUY OK??? OOOOOOO

ONE LUV

UZUMBO

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