A Tale of Two Ingas

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:20 am

Or: Playing Two Lads with the Same Format Against Each Other

Inga-Britt Ahlenius is a former high-ranking UN official. So naturally, lads often pose as her when they send out their formats promising $10 million UN compensation funds.

A few weeks ago, one such lad sent his format to me. We'll call him Inga1. After I wasted a couple weeks with my usual delaying tactics, Inga1 provided me with a bank account for a mule in Canada. Since then, Roger has had no success in sending money to the mule:

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I just got back from the bank. My banker Mr Hilts tried to send money to that account, but he said there was a problem with the receiving account and he could not complete the transfer. Can you please check what the problem is and fix it so I can send the money?

After a few more days of waffling, Inga1 is annoyed by Roger's inability to pay:

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You and your banker Mr Hits are lairs My husband sent me some money through that account yesterday, so i dont know what game you are playing but please i dont have time for this game, i am a very busy person,

Roger doesn't understand the problem, and Hilts asks to contact Inga1 directly:

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All I know is what my banker told me, and he said the account is bad. If you are saying the account is good, I don't know what to think. Maybe there is some miscommunication.

Mr Hilts said he wants to contact you directly so you can work out the problem together. Is it ok if I give him your email address?

My crooked banker Mr Hilts will enter the bait soon, which should be an interesting development as always. However, there is an even more interesting development brewing...

About a week ago, another lad posing as the same UN official emailed me with the same exact format! We'll call this lad Inga2. Roger was confused that the same UN official was emailing him again about the same fund:

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I am very confused by your email. You already told me about this fund and we are already working together so I can claim it. Why are you telling me about it again?

Inga2 was derailed from his script immediately:

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Dear sir please your email confused me all this while,but i have not contact you before in what you saying,please check well and know the person you are talking about this time.thanks remain blessed.

Roger insisted that he was already in contact with Inga:

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I am very confused now. You sent me an email just a few days ago telling me about the fund, and you asked me to send money to your account officer in Canada. I sent the money but I didn't hear back from you until now. Don't you remember?

Anyway, what is the next step for claiming my fund?

I am trying to make Inga2 think that Roger has already paid.

Inga2 accused Inga1 of being an impostor in a very long email which I omit in the interest of space, but Roger still didn't get it:

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I am very confused. What is this you are talking about imposers? Why are you contacting me twice about the same fund? Mr Ban said I should work with you to get my fund, and I agreed to fallow his instructive, but now I am very confused. I thought I already paid your account officer the money?

Inga2 keeps trying to explain to Roger:

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Dear Roger,did you not read my last email with understood,i have told you that you have not pay me anything beside i do not have any account officer in Canada,so you know that you pay the fee to the rough person and fake people,please you have to believer me all through i am the only person who can pay your fund to you immediately,so you have get back to me with all banking details and telephone number as fact for you to receive your fund before this Christmas.see the attachment of my working id card to proof to you who i am.

Meanwhile you have to stop much question and work with the directive you have to know that some Nigeria board of directors are not happy with your fund them wanted to divert it all this while so make all this available so that i can transfer your fund the only fee you allowed to be paid is the $350 dollars for UN clearance papers fee only.i am advice you because i believer in God that while try to make sure you get your fund.thanks and God bless you i am waiting to hear from you.

Roger understands that Inga is the only person who can deliver his fund, but still doesn't get that there are two of them:

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I know you are the only person who can help me claim my fund. You and Mr Ban already told me that before and I understood. (Inga1 is also using a Ban Ki-Moon character as a convincer) But I am confused why you say you don't have an account officer in Canada. I just paid Mrs Carman at that account you gave me a couple days ago, so why are you saying I haven't paid you?

I am very confused. Why are you contacting me through two email addresses? And why do you keep forgetting what our derangement is? Can't you just use one email so you can keep things strait?

Inga2 starts to sound a bit frustrated that Roger still doesn't get it:

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Dear Roger why cant you understand me? (because Roger is deliberately written to be the dumbest and most gullible victim who has ever lived) i have told you that i,m not the one you send money to,i did not have any account officer in Canada cant you understand me all this while,this is my only email i have so if you receive email from another people you know is fake okay,

Meanwhile i have told you this in my last email yesterday please you have to understand,i am the only person who can transfer your fund from here in Nigeria so you have to do what i ask you to do to avoid any hatch of fund here in the bank.i,m telling you the honestly,so make it possible so that all will be well.with God all thing are possible.waiting g to hear from you with a good update.

Roger will reply tomorrow, still utterly confused.

Meanwhile, Roger tells Inga1 that he received Inga2's email:

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I was very confused to receive another email from you. Why did you contact me again from a different email about the same fund? We are already working so I can claim it, don't you remember?

We'll see how Inga1 responds. I'm going to try and play these lads off each other for as long as I can. Maybe I can get both of them working together with Hilts to scam Roger, or maybe I can just waste a huge amount of time by getting Roger confused every time each Inga accuses the other of being a scammer and insists she is the real one. Stay tuned...

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:05 am

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:29 am

You are Sheer Evil. That is a Compliment btw!

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:30 am

Mi laikim! I've pitted two lads' Ibrahim Lamorde characters against each other, but those were not their main characters.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:34 am

I like it!

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:09 am

Very good.

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:33 am

Roger pokes Inga1 again:

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Now I am really confused. Why are you emailing me again about the same fund and asking me to send money by Western Onion to Nigeria? I thought I was suppose to pay the fee by bank transfer to your account officer in Canada? Did you forget the details of our derangement?

Inga1 tells Roger he is mistaken:

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You are making a very big mistake, i never emailed you to send any Money to Nigeria, what i told you is to send the money to my agent in Canada, be very careful because of those Nigeria scammers.

Make the payment of $350 today with this information

He didn't respond about Hilts, so I'll try again tomorrow.

Meanwhile, Roger asks Inga2 to explain properly:

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But I am not receiving emails from another person, I am receiving them only from you. I don't understand what is going on. Why are you talking about fake people? Who is fake? You are not making any sense and it is confusing me. Can you please explain it properly?

And why can't you remember our derangement? I already paid your account officer in Canada, and I don't want to pay that fee again. Can't we just continue with the precession so I can claim my fund?

Inga2 explains again:

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My good brother, I have received your mail and it is well understood, but I want you to know that you was deceived by criminals that claimed what they are not, even the person that claimed to be me is not me, they used my name to deceive you and collected money from you, I know that all these things that happened to you at precedent was because you complicated yourself into criminals activities and they used many strategies to deceived and stole money from you, and again is that you didn’t ask them the main fee you will pay to receive your fund because in regards to this approved fund you are approved to receive, the only fee approved by Government of Nigeria and United Nation Board of Trustees is $350 and this is the only fee you will pay, after you pay the fee, you will not pay another fee, that is why it was authorized to pay by the beneficiary of the said fund which is you, this is what you suppose to ask them, but you didn’t ask and they keep collecting money from you.

My good brother, I know that it will be very difficult for you to believe me because people has deceived you at earlier period and that will make you not to identify who is genuine and who is not genuine, my good brother, don’t permit what happened to you at long-ago to distract your attention not to receive your fund, I want you to keep your precedent experience behind you and center of attention to achieve your fund and I guarantee you that you will regain all you have lost in the hands of criminals.

Dear Roger, do not be scared of anything because I know that you will be terrified think that I am one of the impostors (indeed), but I want you to understand that I am difference from them and you are dealing with the right office, you have nothing to be anxious of, the only thing I want you to do is to keep what happened to you behind you and try and see what i can do, I want to you to be confident that nothing will stop you not to have access on your fund as soon as i am here, I swear with my last blood that what happened to you at past will not be repeated again, I am a woman with kids and I have a man like you as a husband, if I stand to betray you, let the Almighty GOD betray my husband, I have the fear of GOD in me and I will never do anything that will tarnish my image in presents of GOD and before you, so I will like you to give me a trial on these and watch what will happen as soon as you try and send the $350, the only thing and i guarantee you that you will not receive any disappointment from me, I assured you that because this issue is what bring me here in Nigeria, so I will make sure that you will receive your fund and show gratitude.

I think it's amusing that both of them are following exactly the same script, right down to the amount they are asking Roger to pay, $350. That will cause even more confusion for poor Roger. Very Happy

Master Baiter Joined: 26 Apr 2015 Posts: 239

It would be interesting if the second lad decides to just go to the next phase,which maybe even more money, then you could tell the other one you've sent that payment, then he'd really start ripping out his hair

Not quite a Newb Joined: 13 Nov 2015 Posts: 54

I think that the lads are getting out of fresh characters and stories. I have already been contacted 2 times with the same story from different email addresses.

One "pair" dropped the scam immediately but for the other "pair" of lads I kept on asking for passport copies and certificates of deposit from both of them and kept on forwarding the copies received from one to the other asking who was genuine and who was fake... Of course each one of them guaranteed he was the real one and the other the fake one and they kept on asking for each other's email's addresses (which, of course, I did not send)... It truly was amazing fun. In the end one of them dropped the scam while the other kept on going and I'm still baiting him today, while periodically lying that I'm still in touch with the other one - which seems to piss him off every time! Twisted Evil

Baiting Guru Joined: 10 Oct 2010 Posts: 3876

tell that to both of them "your collegue said, I should send the money to her and ensured me it would be fine", and quote each others request for money.

you can also create a fake inga-mail-address, and pose as the lads.

they will go mad because of that dollarchop-attempt, yet they can't get in touch with each other, they have to contact your fake lad. there will be some fine rants, and you can even forward them to each other. Twisted Evil

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:31 pm

I've used a similar tactic - I call it a "cascade bait" - with Lads who write under commonly used names such as Godwin Emefiele and (back in the day) Charles Soludo. For an example, check out "Good Grief!" under Scamorama's entries for 2010.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:55 pm

Roger tells Inga1 that Inga2 asked him to send money to a Nigerian footballer:

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I am very confused. You sent me an email from your other address asking me to send money to Mr Obafemi Martins in Nigeria, don't you remember? Why do you keep telling me different things?

Anyway, if you want me to send the money to your account officer in Canada I can do that, but Mr Hilts told me that there is a problem with the account. He wants to get in torch with you directly so he can fix the problem. Is it ok if I give him your email address?

I really want to bring Hilts into the bait soon, because it offers far more opportunity for complications, and in a bait, complications are fun.

Roger tells Inga2 that Inga1 asked him for $5000:

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I am confused, the fee is only $350.00 dollars? But you told me in your other email that it is $5000.00 dollars. I don't understand why you keep forgetting what you have already told me. Are you loosing your memory?

Anyway, when I went to the bank yesterday, I tried to send the money to your account officer in Canada, but my banker Mr Hilts said there was a problem with the receiving account. I think it can't except that much money. Can you give me another account where I can send the $5000.00 dollars? I will go back to the bank tomorrow and send it to that account.

Hopefully that draws out a piggy from Inga2. If Inga2 is at all intelligent, he will realize that he can chop $5000 from another lad just by playing along. We'll see.

Baiting Guru Joined: 19 Sep 2013 Posts: 2205

I love how this is going so far. The great part is that Roger can continue paying huge sums of money to the "wrong" lad and hopefully keep them both hooked deep. Very Happy

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:50 pm

Inga1 got lazy and just sent me the same email again. So Roger asks to bring Hilts in again, a little more forcefully this time:

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You didn't answer my question. Can I give your email address to my banker Mr Hilts? I am very confused about all this, and I don't know why you keep saying different things to me. First you wanted me to send the money to Canada, then you said Nigeria, now you are saying something about an account in Tennessee. Can't you make up your mind?

I want you to speak to my banker Mr Hilts so he can help me work all this out. He is a very smart man and I know he will be able to help us complete our business with no more problems. Please do not waist any more time by not answering the question or telling me different things. Just answer this one simple question: Can I give him your email address?

Meanwhile, Inga2 spotted the opportunity to make a quick buck, and gave Roger a bank account:

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how are you doing today i know all is well with you and your family,i am sorry for the delaying in responding of your email in give you the new account detail to wire the $$5000.00 dollars as well.please do not send money in that Canada account again here is the New account details to wire the fund and get back to me with payment transfer slip.

<snip Tennessee bank account, reported>

i will be waiting to hear from you with the payment slip details from you as you make the transfer so that your fund will be transfer to you do not make any mistake at this time my dear.

And I guess Inga2 thought I wasn't replying fast enough, because he sent another email this morning before I could respond:

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Dear sir this is two day now i have not hear from you with the transfer slip of the $5000.00 dollars into the the bank account i gave to you all the while,you have to act fast and get back to so that the board will be happy for the this transaction,please stop act weak in your transaction to avoid hatching or divert into it (I have no idea what he is talking about here) so get back to with the transfer slip from the bank you made the transfer.i will be waiting to hear from you.stop delaying to reply your email it so how,you have to know that we only communicate in email.so try your best and get back with the slip this for the transfer of your fund in your banking account i will be waiting to hear from you...thanks

Just for that, I'll make him wait another day.

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:06 pm

^I'm guessing "hatching" equals "hacking". If that's true, this lad has had some nice de-education done to him.

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:17 pm

Big X-- Get a phone number from both of them. Then write each of them:

Why did you send me two phone numbers? Which one do you want me to call (insert number #1) or (insert number #2)?

Obviously, that gives the two Ingas the opportunity to play phone tag with each other!

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:12 am

^ I'm definitely planning to do that eventually, but for now I don't want the lads talking to each directly. Better that Roger constantly misinterprets what each of them says.

Inga1 asks if Hilts is on the level:

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Mr Bartlett,i have never told you to send me any money in Nigeria or anywhere except my agent in Canada, check that email address very well, is it my email address? you have to be very careful because of scammers. as for my contact that you want to give your Mr Hits, is he a genuine person? I am asking you this for security purpose because i dont give away my contact carelessly because of what scammers doing now.

Roger will assure the lad that Hilts is trustworthy.

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:58 am

^ You can do that with emails, only the second email will be your own, each time. So you can act like a proxy between them. Laughing

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:32 am

The "baiter in the middle" email manipulation has been tried quiet a few times - it's very hard to get it to work, in large part because so many scammers strongly favour phone contact where possible.

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:44 pm

Roger assures Inga1 that Hilts is legit:

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What do you mean check the email address? Of course it is your email address, it says Mrs Inga-Britt Ahlenius when I see it in my box. And I don't understand why you are talking about scammers? What does that have to do with our business? Can you please explain?

Yes, Mr Hilts is genial, and he is an excellent banker. I have known him personally for many years and he handles all of my financial derangements, like my Church donations and my inherent trust from my late uncle Jedediah. I am sure we can trust him to help me send you the fee, and he will keep everything secured. Can I give him your email address so he can get in torch with you?

Meanwhile, Roger is confused by the name on the account that Inga2 gave him:

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I am confused. So you are saying you don't want me to send the money to Mrs Carman in Canada? But I thought you said she was your account officer?

Ok, if you are sure, I can ask my banker Mr Hilts to send it to this other account, but I am still confused because I don't understand who this <likely mule company> is. Is that some kind of company? I thought you worked for the United Nation?

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:22 pm

Roger pokes Inga1 for a response:

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Why are you delaying so much in your responses? Can you please answer whether I can give your email address to my trustee banker or not?

Inga2 gets upset at Roger's stupidity:

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You are a fool,i see you as non human being fuck you boy.

Roger is flustered by the sudden hostility:

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I don't understand, why are you being so rude to me? I am just trying to follow your instructive the best I can, but you keep telling me different things each time and I get confused. Why can't you just tell me exactly what you want me to do? I will do my best to follow your instructive and send the $5000.00 dollars. Please just give me another chance. I don't want to loose up on this fund because I did something wrong.

Inga2 wants Roger to send the money immediately:

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Do not email again with the payment slip to avoid arresting you.

Roger will go back to the bank tomorrow, but I suspect Hilts will want to talk to Inga2 as well.

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:35 am

that last from Inga2 is one of the best siggy lines I've seen for a while!

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:59 pm

Baiting Guru Joined: 19 Sep 2013 Posts: 2205

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to avoid arresting you

This is going to be a problem. Roger has trouble functioning even under the best conditions. The threat of arrest? That stress won't help any...

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:16 am

Hilts contacts Inga1 with an offer:

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Hi, my name is Virgil Hilts, and I have a proposal for you that I think you'll be interested in.

Roger Bartlett came into my bank a couple times last week asking me to help him send fees to a bank account in Canada so he could claim some huge fund from a United Nations official. It was some crazy bullshit story, quite obviously fake, but that old fool Roger really believed it. He also said that you kept changing your mind about how much he should pay you and how to pay it, and the stupid bastard couldn't figure out what the fuck was going on.

But I think I know what's going on here. Your a scammer, probably from Nigeria, and your trying to get money from Roger by scamming him. And some other scammer has used the same exact scam against him and now poor stupid Roger doesn't know what's what. But I don't care if your a scammer. How you make your living is your own business, and it doesn't bother me if you take that idiot Roger to the cleaners. What I want is to make a deal with you and work together. That's why I told Roger that there was a problem with the transfer and I needed to contact you.

Listen, you probably don't even know it, but you've walked into a goddam gold mine here. Roger is really fucking dumb, and really fucking rich. We're talking millions of dollars. He trusts me as his banker, and he's not smart enough to understand when he's being robbed blind. I've been skimming from his accounts and doing all sorts of shit beyond his back for years and he still trusts me. My point is: If you work this job right, you could make millions of dollars out of the old fool before he realizes what happened. He seriously might be the best scam victim you've ever had, or are ever gonna have.

So here's what I'm proposing: We work together to scam Roger for big money, cut out the other guy scamming him, and we split the take 50/50. If you refuse, or tell Roger about this email, I'll tell him your a scammer, and that he should trust the other guy. You'll get nothing from the best victim you've ever had. So the choice should be really goddam easy. Let me know.

Hopefully Inga1 decides to play along.

Roger is rattled by Inga2's threats:

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Now I am really worried about all this. Why are you saying I will be arrested? You are making me very nerves and I don't like it. I didn't do anything wrong? I can't go back to jail, it was horrible enough when I got into that fight with a Clark at Western Union last year, so please don't arrest me!

I don't want you to be angry with me, but I went to my bank this morning to make the transfer of $5000.00 dollars but my banker Mr Hilts said he he couldn't complete the transfer. He said he wants to contact you directly to work out some issue. He explained it to me but I didn't understand, so he asked for your email address. Is it ok if I give Mr Hilts your email address so he can get in torch with you? I think that will make everything a lot easier.

Inga2 is not interested in this idea:

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This is to inform you that you are not allow to release my email to him,i dont want to have any discussion with him.He should withdraw the money from your account and make the transfer immediately with the account information i gave to you.you should not mind the bank officer and if he refuse to do the transfer you should withdraw the money and go to another place and do the transfer stop over complain to me allot.

Roger will try again to bring Hilts in, and of course I have no intention of stopping the complaints. Very Happy