I'll probably catch flack for this but ....

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Elite Baiter Joined: 21 Jan 2010 Posts: 1474

I won't be here for a few hours to notice.

Bware419ers started 2014 with 23 bank accounts & yesterday posted number 1526. That's over 1500 in 12 months. Shocked

I have struggled my way to less than 100 in 6 months. 1500 is simply staggering.

I'm going to find somewhere to hide now.

If anyone has posted a congratulatory thread elsewhere please accept my apologies.

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 24 Dec 2012 Posts: 699

How is it done?
Simply send "I am ready to send the 12000 dollars to your bank account so please give it to me" to every spam email?

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:10 pm

^^^ She offers them naked selfies if they provide X number of accounts. unfortunately, they find out too late that the selfies are actually Justcold's.

Congratulations bware. happy crowd

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:21 pm

Nicely done Bware beers!

Congratulations happy crowd

Elite Baiter Joined: 10 Mar 2013 Posts: 1482

calvin wrote:

I won't be here for a few hours to notice.

Bware419ers started 2014 with 23 bank accounts & yesterday posted number 1526. That's over 1500 in 12 months. Shocked

I have struggled my way to less than 100 in 6 months. 1500 is simply staggering.

I'm going to find somewhere to hide now.

If anyone has posted a congratulatory thread elsewhere please accept my apologies.

That is some dedication from both of you.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:43 pm

Great work bware! That's a lot of accounts, and a ton of damage to the lads. Here's hoping you can replicate the effort in 2015. Very Happy

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:45 pm

Holy crap. That's a lot of accounts!

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:55 pm

I stand by what I've already told you. Cool

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:55 pm

The problem with a modality like that is that if Everyone uses it. Sooner or later it loses it's effectiveness. Better to let a few use it and others do the regular stuff. I often throw away all my responses and re-write them to keep the Darlings from getting the feeling that they've seen that excuse before.

That being said, Awesome Job B'ware!!!

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:03 pm

Wow. Congrats! Shocked

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:08 pm

Awesome work.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:18 pm

Big Al wrote:

The problem with a modality like that is that if Everyone uses it. Sooner or later it loses it's effectiveness.

true, and not something to lose sight of. Sooner or later it will need a facelift, haircut or re spray. When the time comes we can easily come up with a ruse to achieve the same ends. Until then, use it wisely, but definitely use it. We've really seen what is possible this year and if we can keep up the pace in 2015 the piggies will come in heaps. Also: good work Bware Wink

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:19 pm

Yowza! Way to go.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:17 pm

calvin wrote:

I'm going to find somewhere to hide now.

It was nice knowing you.

Frankly, I'm Embarassed

I had a nice "Thank You" I was going to put in this thread, but then cal went and opened his trap. To be honest, none of this would have been possible without a bit of advice from Gimli, shared below. B8er, Big Al, Big X, Capone, Ginger Lee, Tsnerd, and for the last half of the year, calvin Rolling Eyes

, were walking the same walk or constant support. I could not have gone on or sustained that many without their help and encouragement.

Then there is Justcold. Not only did he get me started on the path to 1500 with his 500 in 6 Walk, but he was a source of influence, a pat on the back when needed, and a brainstorming fiend. Most importantly, he pushed me in friendly rivalry. As much as Gimli got me started, Justcold pushed me and made me better. If he received 5 in a day, I needed to have six. If a lad gave him 296 accounts, I needed to get...well, he knows how many.

dementedman wrote:

How is it done?
Simply send "I am ready to send the 12000 dollars to your bank account so please give it to me" to every spam email?

I wish it were that easy. While there is no need to reinvent the wheel, there is a huge need to make it better. Keep reading and I'll share some tips.

B8er wrote:

She offers them naked selfies if they provide X number of accounts.

Uhm, it has worked. Twisted Evil

Big Al wrote:

The problem with a modality like that is that if Everyone uses it. Sooner or later it loses it's effectiveness. Better to let a few use it and others do the regular stuff.

I cannot agree with this enough. You have to adapt, read what others have done and formulate a plan of attack that keeps getting better and better or are specifically targeted.

Nailgunner wrote:

true, and not something to lose sight of. Sooner or later it will need a facelift, haircut or re spray. When the time comes we can easily come up with a ruse to achieve the same ends.

I'll share what Gimli sent me as I'm sure he wouldn't mind and it is very relevant to what NG posted.

Gimli wrote:

The one caveat I put on this information is that I ask that you not use exactly my story. I get most of my lads from Surplus, and even the dimmest lad will start to twig if he's suddenly corresponding with a dozen old ladies in wheelchairs who are deaf and can't leave the house. In any case, the success behind it is not the character but rather the situation I place my character in. The key is having an excuse for everything starting with why WU isn't an option in the first place. I'm sure that equal success could be had by characters unable to leave the house due to a horrific car accident, or who live in Podunk Iowa and have no WU store nearby, or anything of that nature. So long as the big excuse (why going to WU isn't an option at all) is workable, any of the standard baiting excuses can explain away WU online or the lack of a phone number. The big excuse is also crucial to getting more than one or two accounts from large numbers of lads. If they know that you can't go to WU they are less likely to spend time begging you to go there when you're asking for accounts three or four.

There you have it and those with large pig counts will probably echo the same thing. Don't do what everybody else is doing. The lads we work with are all attempting AFF, there's just a bunch of different ways to do it. Yes, I use some ASEMs and have given some examples here: What Do I Do With This Bank Account and How Do I Get More? But each ASEM is targeted to the lad or type of scam. While I do use some lists, I found out long ago it's best to try and not go after the same lads everyone else is. Constantly, I look through old real life email accounts to harvest lads not coming in through guestbooks or the Lad Transit. I have signed up on sites I suspected of selling their lists with a catcher account. If I use an ASEM, I have a definite backstory that is flexible, but follows Gimli's advice where WU or MG are not an option.

Other great formats are: Industrial pig farming modalities and Obtaining Lad Bank Accounts for Dummies. You have to see what has worked and make your own twist.

A few other notes. Every lad I email is a target for a piggy and I hit them hard for it. Often, I will bait them from more than one account to pull multiple piggies. Speaking of multiples, see where I wrote above "If a lad gave (JC) 296 accounts, I needed to get..." My count is unfair. I have had one lad give me around 100 accounts (perhaps 125) Another gave me 294 piggies. And a third lad cooked up 308 portions of bacon. Almost half of my total was from 3 lads and it took a concentrated effort and a lot of time to deal with them. These were lads that were hooked and convinced I was a mule for my very successful African boyfriend. They weren't simply ASEMS, but baits that took some thinking, time and effort, but caused a ton of lad pain.

Anyway, thank you all. I am humbled.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:26 pm

Bware, there is virtually no one as gangsta as you on the piggies. this is an amazing achievement!

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:57 pm

On the multiple accounts game. I can make a suggestion for Gold Lads. During this past walk I had several that contacted me "Out of the Blue". I made sure I was buying over $100,000 in their gold (Might work for Diamonds too) and told them that my Bank or Homeland Security would want them to fill in a form to send more than $10,000 to any one bank account and gave them the choice of sending 10 Accounts or filling out the form. The form I sent them was from TheDane's website (Link in my Siggy line). One Gold Lad sent 5 accounts and the other filled out the form and sent two. Yet another Gold Lad basically told me to shove it and dropped me. Laughing

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:12 pm

It is some achievement.... they'll expect you to do so many more in 2015. :yikes:

Learnt lots from you and still learning. Dedication and a belief in what you are doing, even if it takes outlandish tales that are more often believed than dared be hoped is the key.

Well done.... Very well done.

Here's to a very successful 2015.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:26 pm

ASEMs have been around here since Juan was a pup and as far as I know...no one has ever come close 300 accounts from one lad.

And it's not just the 300...it's the 50, 125, 30, 60 on a regular basis that is the radical change.

Yes, we can send out an asem and collect 1 or two and sometimes a few more, but this is a fundamental change in attitude.
Bware and I don't want 5 or 10 accounts from the lad (we'll take them), but we want to see if he can give up 50 or 100.

The asem gets you in the door, but then you have to know what the heck you're doing and that takes baiting skills.

Think about it for a minute...baiting a single lad out of 25 bank accounts. A year ago, that was an unheard of feat. Now...25 is routine. Almost disappointing.

We all can easily recognize excellence in baiting by reading the Hell Safari, Juan and Capone's USA safari, a successful art bait (why don't we have an icon for that?).

I suggest that baiting 300 accounts from one lad is on par with any of these.

It was not luck folks....Bware gets big numbers on a regular basis now. All of the accounts are reported...one at a time.

I'll make a deal with y'all.

The first member here (except bware or myself) that can bait and report 100 unique bank accounts from one lad during the month of January 2015...I will donate $50 to Eater.

If that is not accomplished, I will donate $30 for any member baiting 50. Same rules.

Please be prepared to show your homework if you claim to have done it. I hope to make that donation.

Congrats again Bware... bow_down