Quick bait: Lad agrees to make passports for hijackers

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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:44 am

Mad Chemist is looking for someone to make fake USA passports so he can get 6 people on planes flying in/out of JFK (NY Airport).

[7/9/14, 2:58:35 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Hello.
[7/9/14, 2:58:42 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: Hi
[7/9/14, 2:59:09 PM] MAD CHEMIST: I heard you do passports. I have one source but am looking for a second.
[7/9/14, 2:59:27 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: what are you plans?
[7/9/14, 3:00:07 PM] MAD CHEMIST: I need passports that will make it through the security checkpoints entering JFK Airport in the United States of America.
[7/9/14, 3:00:22 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Security is very tight there.

[7/9/14, 3:02:34 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: okay you want to get through JFK. Know that my organization does not deal with Fake Passeports But only original passports from legal origins and plus passports are registered in data along with SSN which you obtain from getting the passport with us free.
[7/9/14, 3:03:10 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Excellent. They only need to work once but they must make it through all checkpoints.
[7/9/14, 3:03:30 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Also, can you make it so that the photos will not come up with notices on photo recognition?
[7/9/14, 3:03:37 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Some of my guys are on the no fly list.

[7/9/14, 3:03:42 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: so going throughh JFK will not be a problem as it will pass all control at any airports
[7/9/14, 3:03:53 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Excellent.
[7/9/14, 3:04:15 PM] MAD CHEMIST: I will need six passports.
[7/9/14, 3:04:35 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Can you email me some samples of your work?

[7/9/14, 3:04:39 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Where are you located?
[7/9/14, 3:06:21 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: I am resident in Paris,France but Presently in belgium for Business and you? also will like to ask you some few questions just to help in my work. do you want to entre JFK as a Us citizen or will you consider other options?
[7/9/14, 3:06:58 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Of course. First, I am in Bahrain.
[7/9/14, 3:07:10 PM] MAD CHEMIST: But I do not require ID. This is for six associates.
[7/9/14, 3:08:11 PM] MAD CHEMIST: They will be flying from JFK. American passports are required as we do not want to raise any questions.
[7/9/14, 3:08:50 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: okay kool no problem; so the thing is they need to get out of the c ountry?
[7/9/14, 3:09:03 PM] MAD CHEMIST: They just need to get on the flights. That is the main thing.

[7/9/14, 3:10:02 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: well usa passports will not be a problem as i can provide that to you
[7/9/14, 3:10:09 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Excellent.
[7/9/14, 3:10:38 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: for six passports it will take me a little bit of time as i presently do not have any passport cover with me.
[7/9/14, 3:10:59 PM] MAD CHEMIST: That is ok. We are still in the planning stages of the operation.
[7/9/14, 3:11:28 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: but don't worry i have contacts at the us ambassy that provides me real passport cover from the us nation presse all still virgin(empty)
[7/9/14, 3:11:40 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Excellent.

[7/9/14, 3:12:21 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: and it is that i will use to laminate the info you provide to me on the passports
[7/9/14, 3:12:51 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Sounds good. How long until you can deliver six?
[7/9/14, 3:13:54 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: 14 days if i am motivated enough
[7/9/14, 3:14:57 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: that excludes the time we have to wait for the passport cover from the guys at the embassy which normally takes 3 days or so *

[7/9/14, 3:15:00 PM] MAD CHEMIST: ok. I am not sending them for some time, so you do not need to be rushed.
[7/9/14, 3:15:36 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: ok
[7/9/14, 3:15:41 PM] MAD CHEMIST: I am still in planning and products stage. It’s July and I do not need delivery until Mid-late August.
[7/9/14, 3:16:03 PM] MAD CHEMIST: I need them to be in everyone’s hands before September 1 to allow for some wiggle room before the trips.
[7/9/14, 3:16:48 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Do you have experience working on passports for people whose photos would normally trigger warnings?
[7/9/14, 3:17:27 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: yes as i have worked passports and even diplomatic passports for such people for more than 6 years now
[7/9/14, 3:17:39 PM] MAD CHEMIST: excellent.

[7/9/14, 3:18:51 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: so what is the plan
[7/9/14, 3:19:07 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: you need me to start working on the passport?
[7/9/14, 3:19:09 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Perhaps you could have them to me the last week of August?
[7/9/14, 3:20:06 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: that is fine with me it gives me enough time to finish all six passports and even have time to ship them to you via normal delivery service by ups
[7/9/14, 3:20:12 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: or fedex
[7/9/14, 3:20:25 PM] MAD CHEMIST: This will work.
[7/9/14, 3:20:36 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: or you can have someone collect them
[7/9/14, 3:20:55 PM] MAD CHEMIST: I have an address in the USA you’ll be able to send them to. I’ll give it to you once the passports are finished.
[7/9/14, 3:21:07 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: okay

[7/9/14, 3:21:28 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Are you comfortable with receiving 50% upfront and 50% once they are on the planes and the planes take off?
[7/9/14, 3:22:17 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: i will not like to be persimist but we have not even discaused price yet
[7/9/14, 3:22:25 PM] MAD CHEMIST: that is ok.
[7/9/14, 3:22:35 PM] MAD CHEMIST: What would be your price for six?
[7/9/14, 3:23:22 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: 12000$ bulk price
[7/9/14, 3:23:44 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: that makes 1 passport for 2000 rather than 2500
[7/9/14, 3:24:26 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: excluding delivery to the USA
[7/9/14, 3:26:10 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Will you be able to send me a sample first?

[7/9/14, 3:26:42 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Also, aside from the diplomats, have you worked on any high risk projects (people on the no fly list, heightened security and so on..)
[7/9/14, 3:28:11 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: i have worked with people from no fly list before from US, UK and parkinstan. also have worked with people from dubai who had to change their identity for finance reasons and so on

[7/9/14, 3:29:01 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: I have simple procedures at work that will suits both the buyer and us
[7/9/14, 3:29:45 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Excellent. You should work for us full time. LOL

[7/9/14, 3:29:57 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: even though are doccuments are real ones the method of getting them is illigal and so procedures need to be handled with care
[7/9/14, 3:30:44 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Yes. We are familiar with working through unique situations.
[7/9/14, 3:30:54 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Most of our operations are high risk.

[7/9/14, 3:31:33 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: okay just so you will understand for the safety of both our organization we need to stick into some rules
[7/9/14, 3:31:41 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: mind are simple
[7/9/14, 3:31:45 PM] MAD CHEMIST: ok
[7/9/14, 3:32:04 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: you send me the info that you will want me to get on the passports
[7/9/14, 3:32:32 PM] MAD CHEMIST: and?
[7/9/14, 3:33:58 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: along with a 15% upfront fee for the purchase of the passport cover
[7/9/14, 3:34:21 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: i will begin work and once i am through
[7/9/14, 3:35:52 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: i send you first a photo for info verification if any mistake, if nonn you will be require to pay another 30% of the remaining amount for registration into data base plus the cost it will be to deliver to the usa address you will provide
[7/9/14, 3:36:16 PM] MAD CHEMIST: That seems reasonable.
[7/9/14, 3:36:41 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: Once you get the passports and can get you men on the flight then you will be require to pay the rest
[7/9/14, 3:37:06 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Yes, as soon as the planes are in the air.

[7/9/14, 3:37:27 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Question.. the Pakistan flight… That wasn’t for us was it? Just wondering if you’ve worked with our organization before.
[7/9/14, 3:38:09 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: depends which organization you talked about. i have worked with a few so...
[7/9/14, 3:38:32 PM] MAD CHEMIST: You’d remember us. We’re global. Our HQ is in Yemen.
[7/9/14, 3:38:49 PM] MAD CHEMIST: But we have a lot of people in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
[7/9/14, 3:38:55 PM] MAD CHEMIST: That’s why I was wondering.

[7/9/14, 3:39:59 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: probably, i have worked with some people from your organization, but you said someone told you i was doing this business correct?
[7/9/14, 3:40:05 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: who is the person?
[7/9/14, 3:41:26 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Yes. One of my colleagues in Riyadh had heard about you but I do not know from where. I did not ask.

[7/9/14, 3:41:41 PM] MAD CHEMIST: We only have two rules.
[7/9/14, 3:41:59 PM] MAD CHEMIST: 1. You deliver what is promised and 2. You never speak of us. Especially after the event.
[7/9/14, 3:42:30 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: don't what to know more so i have less to talk about
[7/9/14, 3:43:05 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: you need passports, you have them delivered on time where you want them to go to
[7/9/14, 3:43:27 PM] MAD CHEMIST: perfect.

[7/9/14, 3:43:50 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: so when do we start?
[7/9/14, 3:44:22 PM] MAD CHEMIST: I need some information about you. For example, we have a clean account we use to wire money. So I need to know your bank, naturally.
[7/9/14, 3:44:30 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Also, I just need your phone and address.
[7/9/14, 3:45:43 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: we accept payment through wire transfer as that is reliable for these kind of business as it does not need too much identification
[7/9/14, 3:46:02 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: wire transfers by western union
[7/9/14, 3:46:18 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: and or money gram and if you are in europe by post office
[7/9/14, 3:46:33 PM] MAD CHEMIST: We typically do bank-to-bank transfers. The amount is small enough that it does not get flagged and our Saudi bank is very good.

[7/9/14, 3:47:06 PM] MAD CHEMIST: I am in Bahrain. So, not in Europe. Might be able to have someone from Europe handle it though
[7/9/14, 3:47:21 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Where are you based in case we decide to deliver cash.. and make things really simple?
[7/9/14, 3:47:22 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: i am afraid we do not carry that operation as here in europe bank transfers are very looked up trust me
[7/9/14, 3:47:48 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Ok. Let me see if I can get one of our people in Europe deliver the money to you.
[7/9/14, 3:48:05 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: and my organization is already on the eye here reason we have to be more carefull
[7/9/14, 3:48:16 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Understandable.
[7/9/14, 3:48:26 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Governments. We will be better off when they’re gone. LOL
[7/9/14, 3:48:41 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: lol

[7/9/14, 3:49:19 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: so when can i expect the details for the passportS?
[7/9/14, 3:49:58 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Before Sunday.
[7/9/14, 3:50:18 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Where are you based? Your address I mean.
[7/9/14, 3:50:27 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: okay that is perfect i give you my email so you send it there once you get them okay
[7/9/14, 3:50:52 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: [email protected]
[7/9/14, 3:51:07 PM] MAD CHEMIST: ok. And your address?
[7/9/14, 3:51:39 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: i can't provide that kind of information
[7/9/14, 3:51:54 PM] MAD CHEMIST: If we pay you in cash we would have to meet up with you, yes?
[7/9/14, 3:52:28 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: no payment cash? all payments are through the services i mentioned
[7/9/14, 3:52:50 PM] MAD CHEMIST: If I can find someone in your region, why not do cash? Simpler

[7/9/14, 3:53:03 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: delivery can be done by one of our contact here in europe in person but out of europe will be by delivery
[7/9/14, 3:53:39 PM] MAD CHEMIST: I can get someone in Europe. Someone not identified with our group in any records. So do not worry about that.
[7/9/14, 3:54:05 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: because first i do not know you secound, you need to gain trust before knowing our address
[7/9/14, 3:54:29 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Same on our end right? Trust is mutual.

[7/9/14, 3:54:31 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: and getting trust is dealing atleast 2 or 3 times with us so we can trust your organization is real
[7/9/14, 3:54:40 PM] MAD CHEMIST: If you put together these passports you will know who our people are.
[7/9/14, 3:54:42 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: yea
[7/9/14, 3:55:08 PM] MAD CHEMIST: My organization is very real. I assure you.
[7/9/14, 3:55:31 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: i only get the photo, still will not know exactly who the are and what they are doing
[7/9/14, 3:56:08 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: but getting you to my address or meeting is different what if you are a cop and that when i show up or any of my partners show up they will not be arrested
[7/9/14, 3:56:25 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: i do not say that your organization is not real

[7/9/14, 3:56:45 PM] MAD CHEMIST: i understand. we are far from united kingdom officials. But we could still meet you somewhere to deliver the cash, yes?
[7/9/14, 3:57:10 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: i say that first you stranger to us, and so we need to follow normal procedure if any change have to be made will come with next transaction
[7/9/14, 3:57:45 PM] MAD CHEMIST: I understand. It just works nicely when the risk is mutual. Keeps everyone motivated so to speak. You can think about it if you like.
[7/9/14, 3:58:16 PM] MAD CHEMIST: If you are worried about the police (and you do not need to be) do what we do and have a scout ahead of you.

[7/9/14, 3:58:49 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: well get me the info and the 15% then maybe we will reconsider at the moment of paying the 30%
[7/9/14, 3:59:30 PM] MAD CHEMIST: oh we wouldn’t pay the 30% to an unknown in any case. We would have to know you by the time you have the names and photos.
[7/9/14, 4:00:00 PM] MAD CHEMIST: If it will motivate you, why don’t we do 40% upfront. Not 15. And you meet with us to get it.
[7/9/14, 4:00:05 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: that is why i say we may reconsider
[7/9/14, 4:00:31 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Think it over. Right now we are just two people talking over a scenario that may never happen and no harm done.

[7/9/14, 4:00:53 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: it could even be the whole thing upfront we can not meet with some one we have never dealth with
[7/9/14, 4:01:32 PM] MAD CHEMIST: So how to you establish trust with your clients? How do they know you will not turn them in?
[7/9/14, 4:02:39 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: by reputation i have builds a lot of client credibility as i can even provide you with peopel you can contact to ocnfirm that
[7/9/14, 4:03:12 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: and more over you the one contacting me not the opposite
[7/9/14, 4:03:33 PM] MAD CHEMIST: ok. Tell you what, why don’t you prepare an email for me with pricing, proposed terms, references and I’ll review it.
[7/9/14, 4:03:51 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: so you are the one to pove yourself
[7/9/14, 4:03:55 PM] MAD CHEMIST: You have a good reputation. That is not in dispute. We just have standard operating procedures. Same as you
[7/9/14, 4:04:17 PM] MAD CHEMIST: I am fine with our proving ourselves.
[7/9/14, 4:04:21 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Not a problem
[7/9/14, 4:04:31 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: here so i quess if i contact your organization for a service i will follow
[7/9/14, 4:04:47 PM] MAD CHEMIST: ?

[7/9/14, 4:05:25 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: if i ever have to contact your organi=zation i will follow your rules, since i am the one in need of service
[7/9/14, 4:06:00 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: what i am trying to say is that it is better we deal my way as i will better server you that way
[7/9/14, 4:06:34 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: meeting people here and there will only implicate me the more in your organization and may be face to anwering some questions
[7/9/14, 4:06:56 PM] MAD CHEMIST: I can understand your hesitance there.
[7/9/14, 4:08:15 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Let’s do this. Send me the pricing, samples, references etc in an email so I have it together. I’ll also check with my Saudi friend. If you have worked for one of our affiliates chances are you might not know it. So maybe we already have all of the information we need. Which would make things easier.
[7/9/14, 4:08:51 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: ok
[7/9/14, 4:09:15 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Excellent. Well it is very late here and I still have to finish something. I better go.
[7/9/14, 4:09:25 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: ok
[7/9/14, 4:09:40 PM] MAD CHEMIST: Have a pleasant evening and thank you for getting back to me so quickly.
[7/9/14, 4:10:03 PM] FAKE PASSPORT GUY: bye