Fun with tracers....Now a case of how ruthless they are.

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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:49 pm

I've got another Knucklehead who is requesting a Tracer for the payment I claim has been sent to the target account and has been withdrawn by the Mule. I told him I went to the bank and they told me it was against their policy to give tracers to people. Now Lad is frantic for answers as he's not sure who to believe, me or his Mule.

Quote:

Justin,I believe every word that comes out from your mouth and we
believe Tim too,if you can get TRACER from your bank,showing when
deposit was made and when it was picked/cashed then we on our own part
will take it up from here.

All I will promise you is that we shall hold on to your winning,we
will not cancel it tomorrow but please let your bank give you
tracer,tracers are given when receiver confirmed he did not see money
or cash money.

This is a serious matter as we are bent on serving you better,am sure
if you had made the payment via western union or moneygram,we will not
have this challenge but you refused,now you have our account details
both in Thailand,UK and our corresponding account in US,why cant you
withdraw the money and send via western union or moneygram so that you
will have your winning fund released to you.

A word is enough for the wise. If you work with my instruction,you
will be happy at the end.

GO TO YOUR BANK AND TELL THEM TIM SAID $940 DID NOT ARRIVE HIS ACCOUNT.

We have five winners and he helped us received all the money,so please
go to your bank and confirm the payment was made by sending us Tracer
because your bank name/image is atsake here.

We want to write the Bank of America to help make confirmation and if
they confirm no payment was made,the payment slip you sent will be
qurried and the bank will have questions to answer so PLEASE OPEN UP
before we communicate with BOA

Think BOA will be looking for me? (I'm Skeert outta my shorts)

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:41 pm

Please tell Tim I know quite a few other people who did not receive their transfer either. I think it was the same hacker that got Target.

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:31 pm

Nah, I have a little more fun in mind:

To Mr, Wong:

Quote:

Dear Mr. Wong,
The money was paid to Banner Bank not Bank of America. Maybe that is the problem. I stopped at my bank on the way home tonight and asked once again for the Tracer number and they told me it was against bank policy to issue it to me. I asked if they could do anything to help me and the branch Manager said he could write up a rejection letter which I am attaching for you.
Regards,

Then the contents of the document I sent:

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LETTER OF REJECTION
To Who it may concern,
I have been asked by Mr. JDT to issue a Tracer number and I have declined. It against the policy of Fifth-Third bank to issue Tracer numbers to clients in accordance with our terms of service updated Dec. 7, 2010.

That being said I certify that according to our internal search the payment generated on 2/3/2014 was paid into account Number ********087 on 2/5/2014 and was withdrawn from the account on 2/6/2014 at 3:57 PM. EDT.

Feel free to contact me at (Expensive Phone Number to call) during normal banking hours.

(Character info)

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:39 pm

I once had a lad ask for a tracer. What's a tracer and what does it look like?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:53 pm

You have to watch the movie "Chasing Amy" to figure it out!

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:38 pm

@ VX: I know there have been discussions about Tracers here at Eater. My impression is that they are an internal tracking system that the banks use to track Bank Transfers. They might give them out easily but I'm telling my Lad that it's against my banks policy to do it. I have sent a fake bank tracer to a couple Lads. Both took the information and called Chase bank in New York then came back and told me there was no transfer and dropped me. I'm using this tactic to keep the Bait going.

His Reply:

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Justin,i am sure the transfer did not go through,please try and withdraw the money and use Money Gram so that we will not encouter this challenge anymore. This has lingered for a long time and it is delaying your winning fund.

Please you need to withdraw the money and send it to my name via MoneyGram

Wong Hu
London - UK
Amt: 940$

I wait the following info

Reference no
Senders name
Senders address
Amount sent

This is the only way out now,if not your winning will be cancelled.

Adhere to my directives if you need your winning fund,the UK Government will not be liable for your lost.

Wong

Of course I do not use those services and need Piggy # 4 from this UK lottery scammer.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:56 am

Big Al wrote:

We have five winners and he helped us received all the money

A worrying hint that this lad has had some success? Sad

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:13 am

....and Tim is in the USA. I've reported his bank account and his Info to the Mods. No word back as whether he's a victim or willing Mule. Any friction I can cause between the two of them is a good thing.

I'm also hoping that the 5 winners is a lie.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:56 pm

I've been working back and forth with Mr. Wong Today:
From Me:

Quote:

Dear Mr. Wong,
Per your direcrtion I will go back to the bank and try to recall my
money. It doesn't sound too hopeful. What do you mean I need to pay
the charges again? I sent the money to your agent. If you have
troubles with Tim that is not my problem. When will my funds be sent
to me?
Justin

From Wong;

Quote:

Justin,please reconfirm the following information so I can pass it on
to the bank of England.

YOUR BANK NAME
YOUR BANK ADDRESS
YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER
YOUR ACCOUNT NAME
YOUR SWIFT CODE
YOUR ROUTING NUMBER

Immediately I receive this,I will forward it to the bank of England
for immediate release of your funds into your account.

A Telex copy will be sent to you as confirmation of the transfer.

Regards,

Wong

I had put together a reply for this evening but received this instead:

Quote:

Justin,Congratulations,we found out you already sent us your banking
details which we earlier forwarded to Bank of England. We have just
received copy of the Telex transaction of your winning fund (US$4.6M)

From the details of your transaction,your funds will arrive your
account on the 17th of February which is next week Monday.Please
confirm receipt of this attachment and please keep it safe because it
is highly classified document.

As the per the $940,w are yet to have the money and we shall get to
the end of it,meanwhile your winning funds has been released so you
can have access to your winning.

Wong

So for now it looks like he'll be continuing his scam. $940.00 in the red. LOL.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:19 pm

A little update about Wong. He has been continuing his scam into the next payment. He asked me for $10,000 USD for a "Legality Certificate". I replied about it:

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Dear Mr. Wong,
I checked my investments and there is only a little over $3,000.00
there. I will need to apply for a Second Mortgage on my house to raise
the rest of the money. I do not know how long it will take.
Regards,

The greedy little Bastard replied:

Quote:

I got your email and presented it to the management of Tax
Office,it was resolved that the total fees must be paid on or before
the end of this month but I suggested if you pay part payment,maybe
$3000.00 or $4000.00 if they allow you time to raise the balance and
after much deliberation,they unanimously agreed and assured that if
they received the part payment,they will commence processing of your
Tax Clearance then when you come up with the balance,the Certificate
will be issued to you for your winning fund to be step down into your
account.

Justin because of the challenge we had the last time,I am suggesting
if you can send the part payment via Moneygram or Western Union to our
corresponding officer in US, so that the Tax Office can commence
processing of your Tax Certificate,I understand you told me you do not
like making payment via western union or money gram but please since
this US to US,I am sure this will not be a problem for you.

PLEASE I NEED ANSWERS TO THE TWO QUESTIONS BELOW:

Please confirm if you can send the part payment via MoneyGram or
Western Union to our corresponding officer in the USA?

Secondly,confirm the exact amount you will send so that I will guide you better.

I wait your quick response. I am making this suggestion being your Claim Agent.

Wong

Maybe it's time to send his Mule to the Moneygram office for some fresh air. Or maybe I'll go for yet another pork sandwich. He's been sending USA accounts so I'm inclined to go for the latter.

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:09 pm

An update:
From Wong:

Quote:

MYCHARACTER,I got your email and presented it to the management of Tax
Office,it was resolved that the total fees must be paid on or before
the end of this month but I suggested if you pay part payment,maybe
$3000.00 or $4000.00 if they allow you time to raise the balance and
after much deliberation,they unanimously agreed and assured that if
they received the part payment,they will commence processing of your
Tax Clearance then when you come up with the balance,the Certificate
will be issued to you for your winning fund to be step down into your
account.

Justin because of the challenge we had the last time,I am suggesting
if you can send the part payment via Moneygram or Western Union to our
corresponding officer in US, so that the Tax Office can commence
processing of your Tax Certificate,I understand you told me you do not
like making payment via western union or money gram but please since
this US to US,I am sure this will not be a problem for you.

PLEASE I NEED ANSWERS TO THE TWO QUESTIONS BELOW:

Please confirm if you can send the part payment via MoneyGram or
Western Union to our corresponding officer in the USA?

Secondly,confirm the exact amount you will send so that I will guide you better.

I wait your quick response. I am making this suggestion being your Claim Agent.

Wong

FROM ME:

Quote:

Dear Mr Wong,
It was Presidents day here in the USA and all of the banks were
closed as well as the stock markets. I have sent notice to mmy
investing company to pull my $3000.00 out of stocks and deposit them
into my Bank account. I do not know when The funds will be ready to
transfer to the previous bank information you have sent me.
Regards,

FROM WONG:

Quote:

MY CHARACTER,thank you for the update,well I do not have any power over your
investment company,all I will say is you should hasten them up to
release the $3000 on time so that you do not lose your winning.

Keep me posted after you reach them today.

Wong

FROM ME:

Quote:

Dear Mr. Wong,
I contacted by investment company and have directed them to cash me
out. They said it would be 3 business days for the money to arrive in
my account. I also applied for a second mortgage loan for the
remaining $7,000.00. The bank agent said it would go to committee
tomorrow and then they would get back to me concerning the next step.
Regards,

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:36 am

Please don't send Tim to the MG office. Remember that in all likelihood he is nothing more than a victim himself. Some mules are of course very aware what they are doing but many have no clue that they are being had or that what they do is illegal. No need to add stone to burden.
Good thing that you reported him though to the mods though.

Basinga wrote:

A worrying hint that this lad has had some success? Sad

Not neccessarially. This is standard tactic to reinsure the victim that this have been done with success before.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:45 pm

Thanks Dr. Mike. I decided to stay on to bank accounts. I'm not sure if the latest one is Tim's or someone elses. I will be waiting to get my money until Thursday or Friday and then Re-confirm with my Lad the correct Bank Information and hope he sends me what would be his 5th bank account.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:49 pm

OT-cool new avatar, Big Al.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:26 pm

^^^ I searched the internet far and wide to find them. I'll be switching to an Easter Minion sometime next month.

You gotta love a Lad that sends updated Bank accounts before you even ask for one:

Quote:

Justin,I have notified the management that you cannot send money via
Western Union or Money withing US and they instructed that you use the
current account info below to make the payment,this is because you are
making the payment in two installments,first is $3000 then the second
is $7000.

Bank Name: US Bank
Account Name: Carl
Acct Number: 15375602XXXX
Routing Number: 121201694
Bank address: 2195 Oddie Blvd., Sparks, NV 89431.
Beneficiary Address: CLIPPED

Please ensure you copy the account details correctly and use it to
make the transfer and send me the payment slip. I am sure the 3
business days will end on Thursday,so you should have the cash on
Thursday and make payment same Thursday,if possible,you can look out
for US BANK branch around your city and make the payment as deposit so
there will not be any challenge confirming the money.

Please confirm receipt of this email?

Please confirm next step as regards second mortgage loan for the
remaining $7,000.00?

I wait your response as we are poised to serve you better.

Wong

Piggy #5 off to market ASAP.

And my Reply:

Quote:

Dear Mr. Wong,
Thank you for the updated information. I will print it out and take it with me to the bank as soon as my investment money arrives in my account.
Regards,

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