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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:14 pm

Hello everyone, sorry for my absence but real life sometimes takes over.

I have a couple of female characters at 4ppl.com and a couple days ago I received this message and have been pondering how I want to proceed. So I thought I would post it here to see what you all thought.

Below is a copy / paste of his exact text and picture.

Quote:

you are a Queen of Beauty

I really dream to have wife like you
and to have kids from you if you .............

sw eety,

Iam from saudi arabia ..working as company manager
and owner of beauty center for hairdressing .

I like to make love relations with you which leads us to marriage ... Iam living alone and I need your love
pls email me soon with your informations about yrself your life , living , education , your past sex relations with ex-boys ..are you virgin or not pls tell the truth only
and some hot pics to see your beauty for boobs and back side pls
we can arrange for personal meeting for our marriage in the near future .

[email protected]
or
[email protected]

kisses
dragan loves you

pls email to my email directly

I iwll send you ticket and money to visit me if you agree to marry me and we make love

Photograph (of ordinary-looking man) and email addresses now removed as this person may not be a scammer - Branwen

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:48 pm

^^^^Lantana welcome back.

I'd love to know what sort of profile you posted there!

Sounds like a Muslim who lusts after an uncircumcised female to blow his mind. After some serious smut talk and the pictures requested are too explicit. Maybe he is looking for a cam girl!

Not I think a scammer.

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:52 pm

Boobs and Backsides don't quite seem to fit in with seeking a wife for some country-entry purposes - or otherwise. Unless he is a sleaze-ball.

And one would expect someone from Saudi Arabia to be more concerned with your religious affiliations than whether or not you are prepared to turn up to have sex.

There are weirdos out there, though. I've had two dating-site-contacts who were so Laddish in the way they fell in love within two emails ... but who, I don't think, are scammers. One was just highly peculiar; the other one wass looking for a way to move to my character's country. I dropped them both.

There are so many no-doubts-about-it Lads out there, I don't think it is worth messing about with the uncertain ones. You could put that man onto email for one letter and, unless he is using Gmail, see if he is truly in Saudi Arabia. If he is actually West Africa or elsewhere, it is a bit suspicous - bear in mind, though, that there is at least one Lagos, Nigeria, internet café which uses a Saudi Arabian proxy .... but this site may reveal it, possibly as 'suspected network sharing' or similar wording:

http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip-lookup

If he is in Saudi Arabia for real, though, I'd suggest leaving alone. There are so many definite scammers on 4ppl that you can find one who you are totally convinced about. Yes, if this one is a scammer too, then you will have 'lost' him. But it is better to be certain.

The photo looks fake to me (who stamps photo-booth photos?), but I still hold: if in doubt, don't bait.

Googling his email address

[email protected]

and then choosing 'Translate this page' brings up results like:

Quote:

Jordanian national, a Palestinian from the West Bank resident in Saudi Arabia, long director of the company and high-income looking for an educated girl from the West Bank ready for marriage

and

Quote:

Palestinian man, Jordanian living in Saudi Arabia has long been 54-years old I am a director at a big company, high income, I own a private house in Jordan, search for a Palestinian wife or any other nationality-old girl under the age of 36 years old, educated, and ready for marriage immediately

Genuine? Possibly. Or maybe just clever.

If you do write back, then be low-key (and Jewish?).

But I'd advise ignoring him, and choosing a Definite Lad to bait instead.

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 7:13 pm

Sound advice devil_woman and Branwen. You confirmed what I was already thinking and the reason I had not responded to him.

Thanks again.

Master Baiter Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Posts: 128

Very Hoakie looking picture, looks like something from the late 60's- early 70's look at those huge Atom Ant style eye glasses!!! Not to mention that it is very blurry!! Branwen, Like your idea, if you tell him that you are Jewish and "Mr. Saudi Arabia" does not tell you to fly away, most likely he is a scammer !!!

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:52 pm

If he is a sleeze and I suspect he is, I doubt he will care too much about your religion.

Personally I wouldn't touch this, using a photo and come on lines like that he will hardly have the women lining up.

It may however be very enticing to a lad Wink

A baiter perhaps Idea

BTW, there is nothing laddish about the writing either

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:56 am

Every time I open a new 4ppl account, I seem to pick up a pervert or two in addition to the typical scammer.

Hard to say for sure whether this is a simple perv, a baiter, or a really dumb scammer. As Murry said, the writing is not really consistent with an African, and on the off chance this really is a scammer, he is unlikely to attract any woman with those lines anyway.

In general, if you want to help the most people, it is best to focus your efforts on the scammers who are most likely to succeed in getting money from innocent women. This clearly isn't one of them Very Happy

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:20 am

Just a perve wanting free 'hot pics'..........

Send him some of a naked man and tell him 'I am actually a man, hope you still like me?'

Very Happy

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:40 pm

All good points and I recognized that the message did not contain any ladish type writings. I have deleted the message and will continue to focus on the real scammer lads.

Thanks again for all the comments.

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:56 pm

or tell him that you are a trans-gender post-op and are now a woman - does he still want the pictures? then fall in love with and agree to meet him for nights of romance. maybe that will give him some dreams he doesn't want if he's truly from saudi arabia.

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:44 pm

I guess this guy is Palestinian ( I’m not good with history, but from what I know, there is a little tension between Palestinians and Jordanians in Jordan, in many cases Palestinians who granted the Jordanian citizenship will claim they are Jordanians and seldom they mention their country of origin, it’s a bit complicated I know)

We have many Palestinians and Jordanians in Dubai, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, and for some reasons they have better jobs than most other nationalities who work in the Gulf States (which I don't like by the way, but it's still my opinion)

I read some of his ads; this guy certainly has a midlife crisis, changing his nationality, lying about his real age and acting like a pervert in his English message

@ Branwen ,you don’t need Google to translate any Arabic ads
Just PM me Wink

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:48 pm

I knew a professional belly dancer (who did gigs at a thai restruant) and they would get serious offers from saudi's to be A wife...they offered a lot of money & a really nice place to live...

but then you're a prisoner in a nice place having to deal with being a 3rd or 4th wife...apparently they like american women

Not quite a Newb Joined: 13 Mar 2010 Posts: 29

seems like a pervert to me........

Not quite a Newb Joined: 07 Jun 2010 Posts: 37

Tell him you'll post your nude photos, even post him a video of you jerking off if he gives you his home address. Then post a letter addressing it to his wife, lol, and bust him!

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:32 am

^^
Ah, you're assuming two things which may not be true.

1) He has a wife and
2) If he has a wife, she can read Smile

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Not quite a Newb Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 46

hi, im not sure if its a scam or not he may just want camera 'action' or even a visa to visit whatever country you are from.

I can tell you for definate though that you will not be able to enter saudi arabia wihout either a husband or father who has a visa to live and work in the country or in the case of british nurses a sort of warden. As the manager of a beauty parlour he will niether have the contacts nor the money to do the latter.

I would also like to point out that the idea of a 'beauty parlour' in downtown jeddah or yanbu is laughable. He may kind of run one but women go NOWHERE unescorted by a member of their family especially ladies requiring/affording the services of a beauty parlour. It is more likely that the beautitions visit the homes of the customers as a manager of even this enterprise will never so much as catch sight of a customer from a distance.

sorry to babble on but i would not be concerned unless he asks for money to visit you in which case it is a scam.

xxx

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:09 am

Having spent a little time in Saudi and Iraq I have a good idea of what is happening here. I believe the man to be legit (in the sense that he is not looking for your money). He is likely looking for a woman from the U.S. or somewhere like it. Many of the guys over there are infatuated with the women from the west. He is not concerned about your religion because if he were to talk you into marrying him you would have no choice but to convert. He wants the pictures not so much for the slimy reasons but because he is excited about the option to see what he is “buying” before he commits. He cannot do that in his county. In Saudi a man must assume he knows what’s under that robe until it’s too late lol. The reason for the overly personal questions about your sexual history are because despite his willingness to find a girl who isn’t Muslim, some things just cannot be overlooked and any lack of “purity” or virginity will not be considered. To sum it all up it is more likely he is a real man looking to buy a wife from the west who is a virgin and has a nice figure….. I don’t think we need to worry about him unless of course you know of an attractive young woman with a great figure who has never had a sexual relationship and is now searching dating sites looking to sell herself to a middle eastern man who is rich but will move you to a place where the culture gives her no rights and allows him to hit her. LMAO let me know if you see one of them.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 31 Jul 2010 Posts: 3

^^
Well I myself have spent some time In Saudi as a general physician and agree on your thoughts as I myself experienced same things there!

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