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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:08 am

Is anyone else getting these ?

I have just started receiving lots of these in my catcher accounts, but all quoting different g-mail reply addresses.

I've replied to one to see what happens.

Quote:

from Sylvana Compton <[email protected]> reply-to Sylvana Compton <[email protected]>
to my_catcher_account
date 25 Apr 2008 10:19
subject Marketing Research Job Opportunity Available

Hi,

Our organization starts recruiting employees willing to take part in
well-paying research studies conducted by leading online businesses.
Your opinion as a consumer is important for the success and profitability of
many business ventures.

You can earn very well for participating in on-line surveys, focus group
discussions, and product/service evaluations.

If you want to become one of our highly valued survey takers, please write
back to [email protected] and I will send you more information.

Sincerely,

Ann Stevenson
Assistant HR

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:20 pm

Mod Edit: Full requote of previous post deleted. Read it ^^^^

Yep I get quite a few not this particular one but from Yahoo. I've had one going for four months now bugger just won't quit he thinks he's going to get his money for the travel documents he has four my character. There's been sex, assaults, robbery, crooked cops good cops, bad Western Union employee's pretty well everything and I keep leading him by the nose all the way around the mullberry bush. Good Laugh..

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:56 am

^^^^ I don't see where travel documents comes into it Confused

here is the reply I got :-

Quote:

Hi,
Thank you very much for your interest in the online survey jobs we offer.
For more information please go to our website:
http://www.Consumer-Opinion.org.
If you have any additional questions please fill in the form on our website or email [email protected].
I look forward to doing business with you.
Best regards,
April Hofmann
http://www.Consumer-Opinion.org

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:37 am

http://suckerswanted.blogspot.com/2008/03/consumer-opinionorg-paid-survey-scam.html

Quote:

Address lookup
canonical name consumer-opinion.org.
aliases
addresses 91.196.124.73

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Domain ID:D151346870-LROR
Domain Name:CONSUMER-OPINION.ORG
Created On:14-Feb-2008 16:24:35 UTC
Last Updated On:15-Apr-2008 03:49:09 UTC
Expiration Date:14-Feb-2009 16:24:35 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. (R39-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:c8c3142d2e6cbb3e
Registrant Name:PATRICK LAWRENCE
Registrant Organization:n.a.
Registrant Street1:600 Oak dr.
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Hingham
Registrant State/Province:MT
Registrant Postal Code:59528
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.8002039386
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:c8c3142d2e6cbb3e
Admin Name:PATRICK LAWRENCE
Admin Organization:n.a.
Admin Street1:600 Oak dr.
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Hingham
Admin State/Province:MT
Admin Postal Code:59528
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.8002039386
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:c8c3142d2e6cbb3e
Tech Name:PATRICK LAWRENCE
Tech Organization:n.a.
Tech Street1:600 Oak dr.
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Hingham
Tech State/Province:MT
Tech Postal Code:59528
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.8002039386
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:NS19.SUPERHOSTING.BG
Name Server:NS20.SUPERHOSTING.BG

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% Information related to '91.196.124.0 - 91.196.127.255'

inetnum: 91.196.124.0 - 91.196.127.255
netname: NEXBROD-SUPERHOSTINGBG
descr: SuperHosting.BG
country: BG
org: ORG-NTL11-RIPE
admin-c: MDRE-RIPE
tech-c: MDRE-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PI
mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-PI-MNT
mnt-lower: RIPE-NCC-HM-PI-MNT
mnt-by: NEXBROD-MNT
mnt-routes: NEXBROD-MNT
mnt-domains: NEXBROD-MNT
changed: [email protected] 20070612
source: RIPE

organisation: ORG-NTL11-RIPE
org-name: NexBrod Technologies LTD
org-type: OTHER
address: bul. Skobelev 62, ent. A, fl. 2
address: Bulgaria, Sofia
e-mail: [email protected]
admin-c: MDRE-RIPE
tech-c: MDRE-RIPE
ref-nfy: [email protected]
mnt-by: NEXBROD-MNT
mnt-ref: NEXBROD-MNT
changed: [email protected] 20070606
source: RIPE

person: Metodi Drenovski
address: bul. General Skobelev N.62, vh. A et.2
address: Bulgaria, Sofia 1000
phone: +359 885 588 822
e-mail: [email protected]
notify: [email protected]
nic-hdl: MDRE-RIPE
changed: [email protected] 20060531
mnt-by: AS8262-MNT
source: RIPE

% Information related to '91.196.124.0/22AS8262'

route: 91.196.124.0/22
descr: NEXBROD-SUPERHOSTINGBG ROUTE OBJECT
origin: AS8262
mnt-by: NEXBROD-MNT
mnt-by: AS8262-MNT
changed: [email protected] 20070618
source: RIPE

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:22 pm

Quote:

You'll wind up engaged in money laundering, personally defrauded via expertly forged cheques, money orders, etc, or defrauding someone else who pays for goods that never arrive.

It is not money laundering if there is no money to launder.

If it is fake checks, counterfeit money orders; then no money is laundered as you received no money.
Same thing if you defraud others. These examples are just plain scamming and not money laundering.

I have never seen an actual money laundering operation where you actually RECEIVE money that you get to keep, and you pass on most of it (minus your cut) to someone else. This never happens. One CAN make money in money laundering, but nobody will offer some third party via spam, such a job.

Those who launder money NEVER involve third parties. Too much risk of them being exposed. Money launderers always buy businesses which don't do any actual business and then go around claiming they're making money in the business.

Another thing about money laundering is that there is a way for those receiving the money to say they got the money through legitimate means.

A great example of money laundering was this one shipping service where the money launderers would go around to stores in the area and buy goods with real cash. Then they ship them to the home country where they are resold at retail outlets. The receipts are then used to fund other activities.

Chuck Norris Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 1357

Taken in context, it's accurate:

Quote:

Job scam quick guide: it's a scam if...

* they want you to collect and forward money in any way (a "money mule" job). You'll wind up engaged in money laundering, personally defrauded via expertly forged cheques, money orders, etc, or defrauding someone else who pays for goods that never arrive.

The money laundering comes into play in a lot of the mule scam websites, particularly those run by the Russian gangs. They weren't saying that the fake checks were money laundering per se; but that money laundering is one of the possibilities of what you're getting involved with if you take on one of these "jobs." [/quote]

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:15 pm

I think the confusion lies in what money laundering is. Money laundering is taking cash that is obtained from illegal activities (like drug dealing, racketeering, extortion, etc.) and making it look like it came from legitimate activities. Real money is involved and used throughout the entire process. The "dirty" money (from illegal activities) is made "clean" by making it look like it came from legal activities.

Example: Joe Drug Dealer makes $10 million USD cash last year selling drugs. He buys a business selling item X and arranges that cash to be funneled through it. Using bookkeeping shenanigans, he is able to make it look like he made that cash through that business instead of through drug dealing.

The mule scam websites are not dealing with money laundering - those deal with forwarding stolen property to fraudsters and being the fool who gets arrested and charged when the police catch up to them.

The fake check scams are simply ways to get people to part with their real money by sending them nonexistent money. This is not money laundering.

One CAN make money, by money laundering. But it never involves fake checks, stolen credit cards, or wire transfers. Also, ordinary folks don't get offered money laundering jobs. These criminal gangs use trusted people for these kind of things.