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jojobean
Baiting Guru
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Posts: 7586
Location: YOU WILL DRINK YOUR URINE IN A COMERCIAL BUS
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Posted:
Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:22 pm |
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/Begin Rant/
I have to take a moment to vent. At my lad? No. At a Vlad? No. This is to the person who felt it necessary to shut down my lad�s account, less than 36 hours before he goes on safari!
Now I know that there are people on this site who are new and think that might be helpful. Please know that it is not. If you feel that you should shut down a lad�s account, do so only for phone lads. Shutting down your standard 419 scammer�s email address does nothing to help in comparison to the pain that is inflicted upon them by baiters.
Hopefully, my lad will be on his way regardless of his email account status.
/End Rant/ |
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Christ Ghana-Chad
Miracle Benin-Chad
Omar Edo-Abeche
Adamu Lagos-Abeche
Emi - S Africa-Egypt-Sudan 10k miles
Chris Dakar-Niger-BF-Cameroon-Lagos-Mali-Nairobi 9.6k miles
Kevin Accra- BF x2, Togo x2, Kumasi x3, Bolgatanga, Benin City, Tamale x2 5k miles x 6
Kenny 3k miles- dont f*ck me up about the payment plz. i have a policy about that. I JUST GOT A SMALL GOAT TODAY AND ITS IN MY HOUSE NOW. i lobve the goat.
Ben 2.5k miles
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Yakuza
419Eater is my life
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
Posts: 358
Location: NEO TOKYO
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Posted:
Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:25 pm |
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well perhaps the Lad is also frustrated and will contact you from a new email. |
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persephone
Baiting Guru
Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 2846
Location: land of cloggies
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:29 pm |
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Very sorry to hear that Jojo. It seems to be a recurring problem, especially when you get a lovely pet from the surplus section. Hopefully you have him on the hook so well that he takes the effort to reply to you from a brand new addy. |
_________________ a strange idiot tracked you down on arrival you moved with him like a christmas goat to a strange hell hotel and gave him paper or what you call money my ass. - J3ff Rich4rds
14 months and counting
I HAVE SEEN THAT YOU LOVE DOG SEX, LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU CAN COME TO AFRICA I WILL TAKE CARE OF YOUR HOTEL EXPENSES AT LEAST TO SATISFY THE DOG'S URGE - some banker
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Juan Freizwidatt
Associate
Joined: 18 Apr 2004
Posts: 20834
Location: Hanging out at In-n-Out
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:38 pm |
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Bummer, JJB. I realize some people think they're doing a Good Thing (TM, patents pending) when they shut down a lad account but unless it's a phone lad it does more harm than good. I had one recently that was going well, taken from surplus letters, but it fell apart when someone shut the lad down. But with an impending safari............ Yeah, you really have the right to be upset. |
_________________ "SATAN WILL KILL YOU . BECAUSE YOU ARE A DAUGHTER OF MERMAID"
"HOW DOES IT SOUND TO YOU THAT ANOTHER PERSON IS DEALING WITH YOU AND ASK YOU TO CONTACT ANOTHER PERSON AND NOW YOU SAID THAT YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH THE OTHER PERSON WITHOUT THE KNOWING OF THE PERSON THAT ASK YOU TO CONTACT THE OTHER PERSON"
I apologize again that I will lick the dust from your sandals - Shorty
x4: Shorty
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US lad w/Capone: ( )
- ATL>DC>ATL>Vegas>Seattle>ATL>San Diego>LA>ATL>Seattle>ATL>WY>ATL>Aspen>ATL (21K+ miles, $11K+ expenses)
Shorty w/bohigal:
- Lagos>Abidjan
Random lads:
- Douala>Korup; Lagos>Cotonou>Parakou; Cotonou>Niger border; Cotonou>Pendjari>jail in Tanguietta; Asaba>Abuja; Accra>Tamale
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Tsnerd
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 14 Jul 2005
Posts: 41
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:44 pm |
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For our newer folks:
Jojo brings up a very good point- please don't send abuse reports on freemail email addresses- it is completely pointless, doesn't hurt the lad, and can really mess things up for your fellow baiters- not just an ongoing bait, but those instances where someone is working with LEO's on an arrest.
Email addys that are fair game:
Phone lads
Vanity email addresses- MSN/PA emails- these cost money to open and will hurt a lad if shut down.
Freemail sites associated with fake websites.
Any other freemail addy- a run of the mill Yahoo or Hotmail account, for instance- please don't kill it. It is more work for you to report it than it is for the lad to make a new one.
Don't work harder than your lad.
On the flip side, JoJo I sympathize and that sucks, but it doesn't necessarily have to have been someone here who closed it. |
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Anti-419
Elite Baiter
Joined: 28 Jul 2004
Posts: 1804
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:44 pm |
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Sorry to hear that JJ.
I know the feeling. I had several lads e-mail account shutdown in a middle of my trophy scheme. It just pissed the hell out of me because I spent so much time nursing my bait so that my lad trusts me. Then bam!
Maybe a victim reported the scam mail to the provider. I used to do that before I knew about baiting. Perhaps your lad was trying to scam other vics and then someone else reported had your lad's account closed |
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Safari Lad: "...your mails are a healing balm to my condiction here."
Jeremiah Nnamani: "With you I wouldn't mind being a fool for the rest of my life."
James Bruce: "Thanks for your mail and also your insult to my personality and company."
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Trophies - 128 | 4 AM Airport Taxi - 6
- Sierra Leone to Nigeria - "...please help me ,you brought me here to NIgeria.take me out."
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persephone
Baiting Guru
Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 2846
Location: land of cloggies
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Posted:
Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:54 pm |
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Just thinking about it makes ME upset as well: am I missing out on another JOJO safari? |
_________________ a strange idiot tracked you down on arrival you moved with him like a christmas goat to a strange hell hotel and gave him paper or what you call money my ass. - J3ff Rich4rds
14 months and counting
I HAVE SEEN THAT YOU LOVE DOG SEX, LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU CAN COME TO AFRICA I WILL TAKE CARE OF YOUR HOTEL EXPENSES AT LEAST TO SATISFY THE DOG'S URGE - some banker
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jojobean
Baiting Guru
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Posts: 7586
Location: YOU WILL DRINK YOUR URINE IN A COMERCIAL BUS
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:56 pm |
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I am just a bit more upset because this was going to be such a quick safari. I think I have only been talking to this lad about 2 weeks. That would be a record for me.
TS- I know that it wasn�t necessarily someone here or a baiter that shut it down. It could have been anyone. But there are always new people coming through here that would benefit from hearing that. And now they will know a way NOT to receive the wrath of Jojobean. TS does bring up good points about the other email providers. This was just my average, run-of-the mill yahoo lad though.
Hopefully the idiot has enough sense to write down my address, as he was about to get $50,000 from me. I�ll keep you all updated. |
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Christ Ghana-Chad
Miracle Benin-Chad
Omar Edo-Abeche
Adamu Lagos-Abeche
Emi - S Africa-Egypt-Sudan 10k miles
Chris Dakar-Niger-BF-Cameroon-Lagos-Mali-Nairobi 9.6k miles
Kevin Accra- BF x2, Togo x2, Kumasi x3, Bolgatanga, Benin City, Tamale x2 5k miles x 6
Kenny 3k miles- dont f*ck me up about the payment plz. i have a policy about that. I JUST GOT A SMALL GOAT TODAY AND ITS IN MY HOUSE NOW. i lobve the goat.
Ben 2.5k miles
Misc Germany-Holland, Atlanta, Beijing-ChangZhou, London-Glasgow, TIMBUKTU x 2 |
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SlayerFaith
Baiting Guru
Joined: 03 Mar 2005
Posts: 5778
Location: Vegas, baby!
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:33 pm |
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For the new folks, I'd like to point out that shutting down lad emails that have been posted in surplus letters is extremely counterproductive, as the lads there are already receiving the tender attentions of the folks here. We had the same problem a few months back with the shuttle, as someone decided that it was a good idea to report all the emails they received to the providers, effectively saving the scammers from being baited.
Bottom line, killing non phone-lad scammer email addys that are either posted here or come from the shuttle does nothing more than help the scammers, as it prevents us from contacting them. The scammer will simply move on to a new email address that we don't know about and pick up some real victims. |
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"Did he say they have an inflatable pig? That's sick!"- Crash, Vegas 06
"You can be a right Bitch sometimes SF"- Cherrie, GenChat 07
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won huong lo
Master Baiter
Joined: 01 May 2006
Posts: 114
Location: On A Park Bench
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Posted:
Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:39 pm |
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I think maybe we should take it easy on the new people. It very well could have been some random potential vic that new what was but does not bait so they turned him not knowing any better. |
_________________ John Geadon: u are ewu, u are okuko, ezi, ewi. pig. nkita. u mother fxxx 1000 men
b4 u were born
Eddy the Love Scammer: I believe that a man without a vision can never have a mission and automatically that man is to be related to a goat...pardon me for that.
Eddy the Love Scammer: i believe whatever i am told easily because i am a kind of person that believes in saying the truth at all times regardless of the concequencies
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Safari Operator
Master Baiter
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 103
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Posted:
Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:45 pm |
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jojobean wrote: |
And now they will know a way NOT to receive the wrath of Jojobean. |
you want to fight about it? 2 rounds at lagos airport, no gloves. i'm willing to bet you don't show up. |
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SlayerFaith
Baiting Guru
Joined: 03 Mar 2005
Posts: 5778
Location: Vegas, baby!
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:47 pm |
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It may well have been that, WHL, we will never know. That said, there have been many instances where new members were systematically shutting down both surplus and shuttle ladmail addys, thinking that it was a good thing to do. My post above was just a reminder that shutting down addys that are being targeted by scambaiters is not a good idea. |
_________________ x2 x24 x7 x5 x5 x96 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x3 x3 x2 x2 (in a team effort)
ANIMAL,MY FRIEND MY PRAYER IS THIS,LET ALL MY ENEMIES BE IN TROUBLE LIKE CHRIST INGIGE,AND LAZY PEOPLE LIKE YOU BE LIKE WABARA.THANK YOU- Kelechukwu Nduka
"Did he say they have an inflatable pig? That's sick!"- Crash, Vegas 06
"You can be a right Bitch sometimes SF"- Cherrie, GenChat 07
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jojobean
Baiting Guru
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Posts: 7586
Location: YOU WILL DRINK YOUR URINE IN A COMERCIAL BUS
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:57 pm |
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I am not being hard on new people. I myself was a newb too. However, I just wanted to point out that shutting down lad accounts is counterproductive. Many people don�t know that it is. A lot of baiters think they are doing a disservice to them, when indeed they are causing them minimal frustration. I started this rant not to harp on newbs, but to inform them and to vent my frustration. |
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Christ Ghana-Chad
Miracle Benin-Chad
Omar Edo-Abeche
Adamu Lagos-Abeche
Emi - S Africa-Egypt-Sudan 10k miles
Chris Dakar-Niger-BF-Cameroon-Lagos-Mali-Nairobi 9.6k miles
Kevin Accra- BF x2, Togo x2, Kumasi x3, Bolgatanga, Benin City, Tamale x2 5k miles x 6
Kenny 3k miles- dont f*ck me up about the payment plz. i have a policy about that. I JUST GOT A SMALL GOAT TODAY AND ITS IN MY HOUSE NOW. i lobve the goat.
Ben 2.5k miles
Misc Germany-Holland, Atlanta, Beijing-ChangZhou, London-Glasgow, TIMBUKTU x 2 |
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BRUIN
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Apr 2006
Posts: 11329
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:00 pm |
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Jojo - Take comfort in the fact that when the lad reopens a new address and recontacts you, you can slap him for having his first address shut down and demand an explanation!!!
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Safari Operator
Master Baiter
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 103
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:12 pm |
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BRUIN wrote: |
and recontacts you....- |
This is the problem though isnt it? if he only had jojo's email addy in THAT account he aint going to be recontacting him is he?..... |
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Tsnerd
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 14 Jul 2005
Posts: 41
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:29 pm |
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I don't think that JoJo's post or any of the others were particularly new member bashing posts.
This topic has been posted, debated and hashed countless times, but those threads are buried in the archives of posts (although Search is always a friend).
JoJo losing a safari seems like a good time for a reminder
edit: added an s to other |
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Fakers: many, many, lots; an SSL and a couple of Resellers.
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AH, AH, AH! Two little ! |
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Dr Venture
Master Baiter
Joined: 09 Aug 2005
Posts: 193
Location: Venture Technologies Compound
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Posted:
Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:37 pm |
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@Safari Operator: Most lads keep hardcopies of vic contact info for just such an occasion. Sometimes they contact you again, sometimes they don't. |
_________________ Fake Bank Kills:
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I will bring the heat down on you so hard you wont even know what hit you. Just relax and wait for the authorities to get to you. --Jackson Momoh, after learning I blew his money transfer on ale and whores
I HOPE PEOPLE WILL NOT HEAR OUR VOICE WHEN THE TOTAL AMOUNT WILL BE TRANSFERED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT BECAUSE YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS ME SOUNDS STRAINGE OF WHICH I DONT LIKE(Huh?).-- Samuel Onyema |
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won huong lo
Master Baiter
Joined: 01 May 2006
Posts: 114
Location: On A Park Bench
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:57 pm |
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I realize that there have been baiters who have systematically shut down lad accts, which is of course counter productive. My only point was that it may not have been anyone associated with this forum. I was once a noob myself and noobs make mistakes, simple as that. This thread almost seemed like a dog-pile on the noob, thats the only reason I mentioned what I did. I would be pissed to JoJo, I'm on your side. |
_________________ John Geadon: u are ewu, u are okuko, ezi, ewi. pig. nkita. u mother fxxx 1000 men
b4 u were born
Eddy the Love Scammer: I believe that a man without a vision can never have a mission and automatically that man is to be related to a goat...pardon me for that.
Eddy the Love Scammer: i believe whatever i am told easily because i am a kind of person that believes in saying the truth at all times regardless of the concequencies
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won huong lo
Master Baiter
Joined: 01 May 2006
Posts: 114
Location: On A Park Bench
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:58 pm |
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TSnerd wrote: |
I don't think that JoJo's post or any of the others were particularly new member bashing posts.
This topic has been posted, debated and hashed countless times, but those threads are buried in the archives of posts (although Search is always a friend).
JoJo losing a safari seems like a good time for a reminder
edit: added an s to other |
I did not mean to insinuate that anyone was noob bashing. Just seemed a little like a dog pile when no-one really knows what happened. |
_________________ John Geadon: u are ewu, u are okuko, ezi, ewi. pig. nkita. u mother fxxx 1000 men
b4 u were born
Eddy the Love Scammer: I believe that a man without a vision can never have a mission and automatically that man is to be related to a goat...pardon me for that.
Eddy the Love Scammer: i believe whatever i am told easily because i am a kind of person that believes in saying the truth at all times regardless of the concequencies
Click here to support 419Eater.com |
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Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 690
Location: 127.0.0.1
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:36 pm |
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that blows pretty hard jojo. if he was up for the safari inthe first place, he should get back to you though. |
_________________ go you polkhead, FULK- albert john
I AM THE KING OF SCAMMARS...I WILL GET YOU SOME DAY. -olivier kabah
i can pay $1,0000000 to get your cops to hell - jacob wilson
lagos to douala "i am tired of roaming west africa"
i like pretty flags. want your own?
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Nurse Nasty
Baiting Guru
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 7251
Location: Australia, where a dingo stole my eski
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:39 pm |
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SlapHappy
Baiting Guru
Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 9612
Location: Floating up and down with happiness.
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Posted:
Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:01 pm |
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you heard NN! get a move on! or she'll give you a needle where it really hurts!
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Gnasher
Baiting Guru
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 2849
Location: Centre Stage in the Theatre of Cruelty
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:30 am |
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We all know how resourceful even the laziest lad can be when spurred into action, and the prospect of losing $50K should get the lad off his ass, stat. I'm sure he will have some record of JJ's email address (or phone number?). Let's hope so anyway. |
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"you have to pay because he need to submit this form to the Federal Ministry Of Fancies" Barrister John/Mike/Richard Okeke
"they are in deed the swinders rotating about in the net and searching for whom they will stylishly defraud your belongings" A. Moron
"Please pray harder for God to guide and protect us during our travelling because flight airplane i observe is a very big risky" Abdul Karibu
"WE DOESN'T LIKE HOW DISOBIDIENT YOU ARE!" Coco Law Chambers
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KeyserSoze
Elite Baiter
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 1138
Location: Debo's pigeon coop
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:48 am |
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Well hopefullt he wrote down your email address somewhere so that he can contact you from a different email address.
you didn't get a phone number from him or anything? |
_________________ "I was the head of the dradded occult menber in my university days.I have drank so many peoples blood physically if you dont know. so you people are too small for me ok?" - The soulless dunce cap lad
"WE HAVE REALLY SUFFERED GREATLY ON THIS 23 HOURS TRIP FROM IBADAN TO YOLA AND FINALLY TO MADUGURI. IT WAS A SERIOUS TERIBLE JOURNEY." - Kenny the healer - aprox 2500 miles
"I have worn your soul and I will Auction it to the land of the dead before 2 weeks. I laugh at your stupidity. I shall drink my early morning tea with your skull in the land of the dead by two weeks from now" - Cassidy the photographer -
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DrWho
Baiting Guru
Joined: 14 Jan 2004
Posts: 5486
Location: Where ever I go, there I am
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:17 am |
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I think that, jojobean, you need to think about what is the purpose of the site. We do this to cause problems to the scammers and to keep them away from honest victims. Not to give you a few short thrills. This has come up constantly over the life of eater and it is the "official" policy to not have an official policy to leave scammer addresses open.
Shutting it down is not necessarily counter-productive. He may have have 5 real victims on the line ready to send money. If he didn't save the addresses, the victims have been saved the money they may have lost. If the lad did save, then you will hear from him again and nothing is lost.
Yes, a trip would incur lads costs and hurts the only place they understand, but suck it up and move on.
The fact is that if you really had the lad on the hook and was ready to travel, he will recontact you. He should be more paniced than you are. And think of his mental anguish. If he doesn't contact you, than he probably wasn't as ready as you thought. |
_________________ "i think you people do not know whom you are talking of,i am not in any terrorist organization or planning any such of terrorist activities."
"i am not a terrorist and your america cia cna also investigate me."
"i am not a terrorist.send the shit stuff and let me get it fillied."
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