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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:36 pm

If there's one thing I hate, it's scammers. If there's something I hate even more, it's scammers that try to act all religious while tearing up the ten commandments and tapdancing on the rubble while they do it. So, not surprisingly, this one got my hackles up right from the get-go.

I received the following from "Rose Jacob", with the subject "Divine Donations Reply ASAP"

Quote:

Calvary Greetings,

I am Rose Jacob 66 Years of Age and located in Dublin,Ireland,i have decided to give my wealth to an honest person that can use it to glorify the name of the lord.

After i received instruction from my God to use this funds to do GODS work and to give to charity, i prayed to God for direction and he has been directing me. I told God that i want a ministry, or an honest person who will spend the fund for things that will glorify His name.

This revelation came after my conversion from to a Born Again christian. I received Christ and i found out that a sinner has no place in the kingdom of God. I never had rest of mind, i seeked God for forgiveness and he revealed to me that i will only have rest of mind if i serve him
with all my wealth and he will bless me mightily.

It was when i received Christ that i realized the meaning of going to heaven. I need to make heaven, i don't want to perish in hell fire.As my level of Christianity was increasing, i understood that the wealth of sinners are acquired for the just. God opened my eyes to the book of Ecclesiastes 6,verses 1 & 2. Read this scripture and you will understand that there are
people in this world that God gave the grace to acquire wealth yet God did not give them the grace to enjoy the wealth. I happened to fall into the same category now it is the wish of God.

When God revealed to me to use my wealth to do his work, i understood that God was testing me like He tested Abraham and other men of God. Abraham needed a child and God asked him to use his only son for sacrifice, Abraham was faithful. He obeyed and God made him father of many nations.

After the death of my late husband and when i was told about my illness i have to sell all our properties which amounted to about 20 million which i deposited with a security company in a box for safety purpose if anything happen to me this funds will be impounded, can you use part of this total sum for the kingdom works please reply to my email : [email protected]

I AWAIT YOUR PROMPT REPLY.

In His Service,

Rose

As usual, my character replies very simply.

Quote:

I'll see what I can do to help. What do you need?

Hannah

Rosie gets back to me ASAP with some of the glurgiest glurge "she" could steal from the net. All high sounding religious stuff, and the name of her lawyer. Or should I say names? He also has a puzzlingly cryptic email address.

Quote:

Dearest In Christ,

How are you today and your faith in the gospel work .i want you to contact
my attorney immediately so that he can give you more information on how
to get this funds, his name is

JOHN PETER F. DAVID

Email :[email protected]

My child Jesus' ministry on earth lasted only three short years, but His
message continues to be preached today and has spread to nearly every country
and language of the world. When Jesus began His ministry, He knew His time
would quickly pass. Yet rather than trying to preach to the greatest number
of people, Jesus focused the majority of His effort on a small group of
twelve men.

Jesus taught His disciples about the Kingdom of God and how they must learn
to truly love; "By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if
you love one another" (John 13:35). He taught them about the forgiveness
of sin through His sacrificial death, and about their true source of strength:
"Remain in Me, and I will remain in you...apart from Me you can do nothing"
(John 15:4,5).

Jesus intensely taught His twelve closest followers with one overriding
purpose - He taught so they would be prepared to serve in the Kingdom of
God: "Go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them...and teaching
them to obey everything I have commanded you" (Matthew 28:19-20). Jesus
provided a model for effective ministry which we ought to follow today.

Ephesians 4:11-12 "It was He who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets,
some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare
God's people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built
up."

Each of us are called to be a disciple - a close and intimate follower of
Jesus Christ. We are given different gifts and different ministry opportunities;
but the focus of a disciple is always to serve as we build up the body of
Christ and love Him with all ou r heart. We help others become His disciple
as we teach them to follow Jesus and provide the necessary tools which prepare
them to serve.

We have been blessed in so many ways. By His grace we have been granted
the forgiveness of all sin and given a place to worship Him for all eternity.
As we better grasp this wonderful truth, we will be filled with an unshakable
contentment and peace while we walk in the presence of God. But this blessing
must never be selfishly held - it must be shared; "Freely you have received,
freely give" (Matthew 10: Cool

.
I pray that every day brings us closer in our relationship with God through
the forgiveness and love of His Son Jesus. I pray we minister in our church,
our work, our family, and among the friends God places in our path with
love and uncompromising truth. And I pray that each of us look for ways
to build up the body of Christ by preparing God's people to serve.

I want you to do things fast so that we can be able to lay claimes to this
funds to enable you carry out the kingdoms work i am very ill right now
if anything happens to me this funds will be impounded i will send you an
email about a dream i dreamt and my picture once i hear from you again.

In His Service

Rose Jacob

Alllllll-righty then. I can play "quote that scripture" with the best of them.

I reply and also leap on the prospect of a picture.

Quote:

I'm copying the lawyer and you on this message, Rose. Look forward to hearing
from Mr. David about what I need to do, and seeing your picture, Rose.

Hannah

So he of the many names, John Peter Fahy David replies.

Quote:

Attn

Its good to hear from you ,how is your entire family,hope all is well.Anyway i have been waiting to hear from my client (Rose Jacob)intentions to give out funds for ministarian works and having you as her trusted beneficiary.

Now that you have indicated your intertest to take up this challenge as she as intructed me to i will in my possition as the lawyer open up proper negociations with you to this regards,we must put things in order before anything can be done,this includes the notarization of all the paper work,making this transaction legal to enable us make transfers effectively to you in your accounts and country of your choice by the deed of change of ownership.

To this effect i would require you to send me the following information,this will enable me draft out an agreement which will be binding on you and my client and further help me in the process of legalization all documents for this transaction,just note that your informations are safe with me.

1.FULL NAME AND ADDRESS

2.Direct telephone and fax numbers.

Untill i get this informations i will then relate to you modalities of transaction,let me hear from you soonest.

Warm regards,

John Peter Fahy David

I respond in the usual way.

Quote:

------ Original Message ------
Received: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 09:20:49 AM EST
From: john david <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: God Bless You

>
> Attn
>
>
> Its good to hear from you ,how is your entire family,hope all is >well.

We're doing just fine. How kind of you to inquire. And yours?

>Anyway i have been waiting to hear from my client (Rose Jacob)intentions to
give out funds for ministarian works and having you as her trusted
beneficiary.
>
>
> Now that you have indicated your intertest to take up this challenge as she
as intructed me to i will in my possition as the lawyer open up proper
negociations with you to this regards,we must put things in order before
anything can be done,this includes the notarization of all the paper
work,making this transaction legal to enable us make transfers effectively to
you in your accounts and country of your choice by the deed of change of
ownership.

Okay. I hope I'm capable of understanding all this. I suppose you'll help
guide me through it and answer all my questions, right?

>
> To this effect i would require you to send me the following information,this
will enable me draft out an agreement which will be binding on you and my
client and further help me in the process of legalization all documents for
this transaction,just note that your informations are safe with me.
>
> 1.FULL NAME AND ADDRESS

Hannah Jane Morcum
3005 Crichton Lane
Aeryn Washington 43298

>
> 2.Direct telephone and fax numbers.
>

206-666-3170 is my phone number. I'm afraid I don't have a fax machine. Is
that necessary?

>
> Untill i get this informations i will then relate to you modalities of
transaction,let me hear from you soonest.
>
> Warm regards,
>
>
> John Peter Fahy David
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.

I hope you can explain the modalities to me, now. Is that information
sufficient?

Hannah

The lawyer suddenly goes into eye-assaulting mixed color and mostly-caps mode, and sends me a copy of his professional credentials.

Quote:

ATTN HANNAH JANE

THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL THIS ARE THE INFORMATION ABOUT ME JUST TO REASSURE YOU ABOUT MYSELF AND GOOD OFFICE.

LEGAL EXECUTIVE & IMMIGRATION CONSULTANT

CONSULTATION BY APPOINTMENT ONLY .

BRANCH OFFICE : UNIT 6,ICELAND SHOPPING CENTRE LE FANU ROAD

BALLYFERMOT,DUBLIN 10 .

TELEFAX : 00353879496009

CONTACT: ste28 [email protected]

HERE IS MY INFORMATION AND SOME OF MY OWN CREDENTAILS

John Peter Fahy David born 1944; admitted, 1992, Ireland. Education: University College, Dublin (B.C.L., 1988). Member: Irish Proshare Association; Association of Pension Lawyers in Ireland; International Pension and Employee Benefits Lawyers Association; Law Society of Ireland (Law Reform Committee) Practice Areas: Pensions; Employee Benefits; Insurance Regulatory

You can verify on this number:00353879496009

I want to further inform your good person that Mrs Rose Jacob is a client of mine after she lost her husband 5yrs back and choose me to assist her in preparing all the documents needed my own duty is to help in getting the necessary documents needed for the release of her funds to you as her beneficiary. so when you are ready to carry on i will be here to let you know the next step as i have started the documentations already and made some phone calls regarding this process but i want to confirm your resolvement to carry on with this process but time is important due to her state of condition.

Below is my identification Attached

I will go now to await your reply.

John Peter Fahy David

PLS YOU CAN REACH ME ON THIS NUMBER FOR NOW:2348033816939

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In a bit of a nitpicky mood, I decide to find something to question. (Besides the inflatable head on the ID and the totally crap way it's put together.) A quick Google on Fahy and some other key words turn this up.

http://lawyers.martindale.com/xp/Martindale/Lawyer_Locator/Search_Lawyer_Locator/firmnum.xml?ti=1&num=870412401

Well, well, well. Seems I have me a cut-n-paste lawyer! Who didn't even bother to notice that he mucked up the birth year, and that the "admitted" bit didn't make much sense out of context. Oh, well. I keep that under my hat, more or less, for right now. At least from John Peter Bibbity Bobbity Boo, the third, or whatever.

I do, however, hint a tad, and probe, just to see if he attempts to answer my queries.

Quote:

I'm curious, Mr. David, which law firm were you admitted to in 1992? You say
you were admitted, but neglect to name the firm. Or is that when you
established your own independent practice?

Also, what prompted you to go for your B.C.I. in 1988?

>I want to confirm your resolvement to carry on with this process but time >is
important due to her state of condition.

Of course I'm resolved to help her.

>
> PLS YOU CAN REACH ME ON THIS NUMBER FOR NOW:2348033816939
>
>

Mr. David, that's a Nigerian phone number. Your office and Mrs. Rose Jacobs
are in Dublin, Ireland. She says so in her first mail. I know that's a
Nigerian number, because when I dial it on my T-Mobile phone, the recorded
message tells me I am not allowed to dial a Nigerian number. What's going on,
Mr. David? Why are you only reachable on a Nigerian number at the moment?
Also, why is your website, johndavidlawfirm.com not functioning? When I type
that address in, the website is not found.

Please explain, Mr. David.

Hannah

I actually hunt down the Irish Proshare Association website, and in a fit of curiosity, email them the following query, just to see if they'll send me a warning.

Quote:

I have a gentleman proposing to do some legal work for me. His name is John Peter Fahy David and he claims to be a member of the IPSA. I'm just trying to confirm that he is telling the truth about his credentials. Is there any way I can do that? I didn't see a member list on the site.

Thanks,
Hannah

Notice I don't change the false name. I also forwarded the fake ID, but their server stripped it. (Don't know why. It was just a jpg.)

Imagine my shock when the IPSA responds thusly! (Come on, this is the only place I can use the nifty word 'thusly"...)

Quote:

Hannah

You will find information about Peter Fahy under the section Service
Providers, this contains info regarding members of the IPSA who are also
services providers/professional advisers in the area of employee financial
involvement. I can confirm that not only is Peter a member of the IPSA but
he is also a member of our Executive Council.

Regards
IPSA Person's Name Censored Here

I am so stunned I can barely believe it. She's just, essentially, given a scammer a ringing endorsement, despite the fact that the name differs by two names-worth from the real member!

Concerned that a real victim might do the same, and get the same ringing endorsement from the IPSA contact person, I send this (hopefully) polite reply.

Quote:

Ms. Censored, I'm a volunteer with an organization that tries to prevent
internet fraud and scamming, particularly 419 Advance Fee Fraud. Most
commonly, the activity is known as "scambaiting". We try to get information on
scam artists and do our best to protect potential victims or warn those whose
good names may be being misused in a scam. You might want to take greater care
in responding to inquiries about Peter Fahy in the future. You notice that the
name I passed along was "John Peter Fahy David"?

There is a Nigerian scam artist who is currently using that name, along with
the real Peter Fahy's list of professional credentials in his scams. If a real
potential victim contacts you to confirm that a Peter Fahy (or any variation
on that name) is indeed a proper barrister or a member of the Irish Proshare
Association, please, pass on a warning that known scam artists are using Mr.
Fahy's credentials and that any email-based "business deals" with someone
claiming to be Mr. Fahy are suspect, especially if this so called barrister
contacted them through email with an unsolicited business proposition.

The scammer posing as "John Peter Fahy David" sent me a fake ID card, and the
following credentials:

LEGAL EXECUTIVE & IMMIGRATION CONSULTANT

CONSULTATION BY APPOINTMENT ONLY .

BRANCH OFFICE : UNIT 6,ICELAND SHOPPING CENTRE LE FANU ROAD

BALLYFERMOT,DUBLIN 10 .

TELEFAX : 00353879496009

John Peter Fahy David born 1944; admitted, 1992, Ireland. Education:
University College, Dublin (B.C.L., 1988). Member: Irish Proshare Association;
Association of Pension Lawyers in Ireland; International Pension and Employee
Benefits Lawyers Association; Law Society of Ireland (Law Reform Committee)
Practice Areas: Pensions; Employee Benefits; Insurance Regulatory

You can verify on this number:00353879496009

As you can see above, he's using most of the real Peter Fahy's credentials,
save the birth year, word for word, and seems to be using real phone numbers
in the scam, somehow, since he wants the potential victim to ring up these
numbers to "confirm" his identity. He does slip up somewhat by giving me a
Nigerian cell phone number as his direct contact, when he claims to be in
Dublin, but some victims may not notice that. I'm going to contact the real
Mr. Peter Fahy, and warn him that his details are being used by this scammer.

You see, Ms. Censored, if I had been a real potential victim and overlooked the
fact that the two names did not match completely, I would think that you had
just given this scammer a ringing endorsement as an important and legitimate
member of your organization. In the future, this scammer may actually risk
using Peter Fahy's name without the additional names, so please be careful
when confirming the validity of a member in future. This scammer has done mass
emails, so there may be real victims who contact you about this person. If you
can do a small part to help warn them, or perhaps if a "boilerplate" warning
about 419 scams in general could be added to the website, that would go a long
way toward helping keep victims safe.

Thanks so much for your time,
Hannah

May not have much impact, but maybe it will at least keep her from endorsing without thinking for a second and rereading the inquiry. I also warn the real Peter Fahy, hoping they'll put a warning on the site.

Quote:

Mr. Fahy, I'm part of a volunteer organization that tries to prevent internet
fraud and scamming, particularly 419 Advance Fee fraud. One of the activities
we engage in is commonly known as "scambaiting", and it's a way to find
information on scammers and innocent parties who are being used in scams.
Recently, I received the following information from a Nigeria-based scammer,
who is posing as a lawyer and using the name "John Peter Fahy David". He seems
to be using your professional credentials from your firm's information page,
word for word, save your birth year, and some Irish phone numbers to back up
his "authenticity". I haven't been able to track the phone numbers to find
where they are directed, and I thought possibly you might recognize them.

*****************************************
THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL THIS ARE THE INFORMATION ABOUT ME JUST TO REASSURE YOU
ABOUT MYSELF AND GOOD OFFICE.

LEGAL EXECUTIVE & IMMIGRATION CONSULTANT

CONSULTATION BY APPOINTMENT ONLY .

BRANCH OFFICE : UNIT 6,ICELAND SHOPPING CENTRE LE FANU ROAD

BALLYFERMOT,DUBLIN 10 .

TELEFAX : 00353879496009

HERE IS MY INFORMATION AND SOME OF MY OWN CREDENTAILS

John Peter Fahy David born 1944; admitted, 1992, Ireland. Education:
University College, Dublin (B.C.L., 1988). Member: Irish Proshare Association;
Association of Pension Lawyers in Ireland; International Pension and Employee
Benefits Lawyers Association; Law Society of Ireland (Law Reform Committee)
Practice Areas: Pensions; Employee Benefits; Insurance Regulatory

You can verify on this number:00353879496009
***************************************

He gives a Nigerian cell phone number as his direct contact, but many
potential victims wouldn't notice that. At first, I assumed the name was
plucked completely out of thin air, so I tested his first claim by emailing
the Irish Proshare Association. The person who responded evidently didn't
notice the two extra names and endorsed the authenticity of the scammer,
thinking I was asking about you. I've contacted her and explained why she
should be especially careful of doing so, since the scammer may, at some
point, just begin using your name verbatim. Since she "confirmed" that "John
Peter Fahy David" was a member, I did a bit more digging and found your
information, which the scammer is using to boost his authenticity.

Of course, there's little we can do to punish the scammer directly, but you
may wish to post a cautionary message on the firm's website (or elsewhere)
that warns against accepting any unsolicited business proposals from anyone
claiming to be you, just in case a potential victim is led to one of the spots
where your information is available. If any of the above telephone numbers are
affiliated with you, you'll definitely want to warn people who contact you via
that medium, because the scammer is handing those numbers out in his first
contact email with victims.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that this person is using some of your
personal information to defraud other people, but forewarned is forearmed.

If you are contacted by someone who seems to be the victim of this scammer,
please do warn them, if possible.

Thanks for your time,
Hannah

Social crusading and educating done, back to your regularly scheduled bait. I have to poke Johnny Fournames with a stick when he lies dormant too long for my liking.

Quote:

Hello? Are you ever going to get back to me or not? I'm beginning to wonder if
you're serious about helping your client, since you're off somewhere and not
replying to me.

hannah

Next time on As The Mugu Squirms, the lawyer makes a mistake! (dramatic chord)

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:03 pm

Johnny Four Names crawls out from under his rock to send me this. In bold AND italics, yet!

Quote:

Attn

Compliments of the day to you, i am in receipt of your mail . It is good to know that your resolve to carry on with my client and your benefactor Mrs Dorcas Gate is undiluted.

With your forwarded information i have begin to write letters of claims in your name and to enable this transaction in your good favour,and puting some other documents that needs to be notorized by the high court which i have forwarded for notorization such as:

Change of Ownership

Certificate of Deposit

Antiterrorist Certificate

Drug Free Certificate e.t.c

Due to the tragic incident that took place in the united state (SEP 11/2001)that is why all this documents needs to be put in place. i have notify your benefactor of the new development and to have her sign the ammended agreement, and have it sent to you so you can sign and send back to me for documentation.

As i rightly inform you that i have forwarded all documentation regarding this issue for notorization,

I have been in contact with your benefactor, Mrs Rose Jacob and she has inform me to go ahead and bare issues about the successful completion of this transferance to you.you do not need to hire a lawyer as all documents will be handled here so there is no need as i will handle everything,but if you want ok,but i will take care of everything.

So, in a nutshell once i hear from you then i will have to get the sworn affidavit as well as the other vital enabling documents to effect the release of the funds into any nominated bank of your choice

I want you to meet with $575 so that i can continue with the document and send them to you immediately once it is notorized with this documents you will have the right to claime the funds from the security company immediately once i am able to get this fee this will help me in putting everything in order before 3 business working days.i will send you the information on how to send the money once you request for it.

To this regard i go now to await your prompt and urgent response

Regards

John Peter F David

WTF-eth? Who's Dorcas Gate? I shall worry at that like a pit bull puppy, now. I question without running him off completely. Work for your money, mugu, work!

Quote:

------ Original Message ------
Received: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:02:43 AM EST
From: john david <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: NEXT STEP

> Attn
>
> Compliments of the day to you, i am in receipt of your mail . It is >good
to know that your resolve to carry on with my client and your >benefactor Mrs
Dorcas Gate is undiluted.

And who, precisely is Dorcas Gate? You've never mentioned her.

>
> With your forwarded information i have begin to write letters of claims in
your name and to enable this transaction in your good favour,and puting some
other documents that needs to be notorized by the high court which i have
forwarded for notorization such as:
>
> Change of Ownership
>
> Certificate of Deposit
>
> Antiterrorist Certificate
>

Why would I need an Antiterrorist Certificate? What is that?

> Drug Free Certificate e.t.c

And why would I need one of those, either? And what other documents do you
mean to be included in that "etc."?

>
> Due to the tragic incident that took place in the united state (SEP
>11/2001)that is why all this documents needs to be put in place.

What are you talking about? Why would what happened on September the 11th have
anything to do with a woman in Dublin wanting to leave her money to someone
else?

>i have notify your benefactor of the new development and to have her sign the
ammended agreement, and have it sent to you so you can sign and send back to
me for documentation.
>
> As i rightly inform you that i have forwarded all documentation regarding
this issue for notorization,
>
> I have been in contact with your benefactor, Mrs Rose Jacob and she has
>inform me to go ahead and bare issues about the successful completion of
>this transferance to you.you do not need to hire a lawyer as all >documents
will be handled here so there is no need as i will handle >everything,but if
you want ok,but i will take care of everything.

And how are you going to take care of everything in Dublin when you're in
Nigeria? Or are you back from Nigeria? You still haven't given me a direct
contact line for you in Dublin. The only number you gave me was that Nigerian
one.

>
> So, in a nutshell once i hear from you then i will have to get the sworn
affidavit as well as the other vital enabling documents to effect the release
of the funds into any nominated bank of your choice
>
> I want you to meet with $575 so that i can continue with the document >and
send them to you immediately once it is notorized with this documents >you
will have the right to claime the funds from the security company >immediately
once i am able to get this fee this will help me in putting >everything in
order before 3 business working days.i will send you the >information on how
to send the money once you request for it.
>

So, Mrs. Rose Jacob has millions she wants to give away, but she can't afford
to pay you the $575 for the paperwork? But I suppose I can pay the fee. Tell
me who I'm supposed to be sending the money to, and I'll take care of it.

Hannah

Like all good lads, he scratches his head and forges onward.

Quote:

Attn Hannah

Thanks for your mail,i want to assure you once again that this transaction and real and legal,the name Dorcas Gate is the name of the account which was used to deposit the said funds,

The reason why all this documents are needed to be put inplace is because of the rate and incident that has been going on in the world today,like fraud terrorist,e.tc before any funds can be transfered today you must prepare all this documents showing that this funds is free from any evil act and free from money laundry which i believe you should be aware about.

I want to inform your good person that i work in so many countries and no matter where i am located i still get things done as i have partners that i work along with with,in my last two emails i gave you the numbers that i use in dublin including the office line,i have some case that i am handling presently in nigeria which is not and will not stop this success of this transaction as me and my collugues are putting everything in order to make things work fast.

Due to the present state of her condition that is why she is not able to pay all this charges for putting the documentation on your name for the successfull conclusion of this transaction.

Please do endevour to make the payment to the account office who is presently also with me.

THROUGH WESTERN UNION.

MR JOHN OZEIGBE

ADDRESS:20 ALLEN ROAD

CITY:IKEJA

STATE:LAGOS

COUNTRY:NIGERIA

TEXT QUESTION:WHAT FRUIT

ANSWER:MANGO

I want to assure you once again that if you can attend to issues as they arise all will be concluded in less than few days because once all this documents are done the funds will be released to you immediately with no delay in less than 48hours.

I await your urgent reply.

John Peter Fahy David

God Bless

In the meantime, I also get some more "stolen from the internet" religious glurge. I also get a lovely photo, which I think was stolen from someone's personal site.

Quote:

Dearest Hannah Jane Morcum,

I had a dream after being up in prayer much of the night. This dream was not deep at all, and very easy to understand. The dream itself is it's own interpretation.
In my dream, I was in a city that sort of reminded me of
Market Street in Philadelphia ... I think that's the street
where there are lots of little shops , and the "in-crowd" goes to hang out, if I'm remembering the city right. (Interestingly,Philadelphia does mean 'Brotherly Love .') I saw three shops that had their door opened to the streets. In one shop, it was obvious something of religion was going on that had nothing to do with the Lord Jesus Christ. It was
very blatantly some pagan religious service going on,
even though it was just a small shop.

In the next shop, I saw three men sitting. One looked just
like Jesus, like any picture you might see in a Christian
store of Jesus. He even had a "glow" about Him (if it was
truly Him.) He was sitting off on a little couch looking very
"Jesus" like. At a desk was a distinguishedly dressed
man, like a well-honored, scholarly Bible teacher.I was
aware of another man in the room, but don't recall his
appearance, and don't think I ever really saw him clearly.
But he was there. The third shop, I was aware of, but
didn't know much about what was going on there.

I stood there wondering if the people in that shop were truly
the Lord's people, and if that was truly the REAL Jesus. My
heart was searching for the answer as I felt like I wanted to
worship the Lord, and bring my friend that was with me to
worship the Lord, too. I didn't want to connect her to
something that was not truly God.
On the outside of this shop, and suddenly in front of my face, these words began to appear:
"For there shall arise false Christs..... [the part about false prophets was not in my dream] and shall show great signs and wonders... (from Matthew 24:24.)
In the dream, I felt myself then more furiously and pensively within searching for the right answer to satisfy my need for discernment. And then, as if it were the most natural thing in the world, and yet with a sudden and holy unction, I said to the woman I was with.... someone I was apparently "discipling", and I looked her in the eye, and I said to her:

"The true followers of Jesus Christ, the true disciples of
Jesus Christ, will be known for the love they have one
toward another."
It was such a simple little word, void of flashing lightening, or thunderbolts, or appearances of angels... but I knew I had spoken the Word of the Lord, and the feeling that filled my inner being was one of great satisfaction that I had broken through to revelation every bit as much as if I had given a word of the Lord for any "deeper life" website or publication. I looked this woman in the eye, and I felt the fire of God that I was imparting TRUTH to her.
Suddenly the scene changed. I found myself in what
appeared to be a "storefront" church. I was on the front
row waiting for the service to begin, and people were
walking in off the street, and the front of the church was
near the entrance into this church. A young couple came
into be part of the service. They seemed not to be able to
agree on where they would sit.

This couple also had with them a very active little two year
old girl. There was no way this child would be still. I began to envision her running back and forth between them in the service, whining, giggling, carrying on, not able to be still.
That little thing would end up being a great interruption and
annoyance to my being able to concentrate on the service.
And then I woke up, and the Spirit spoke to me to consider
how I would deal with that situation if I were in it in reality.How would I react toward that young couple that had come to church with a feisty two-year old, obviously by their
dress not regular "church" people. They were in j eans,
heavy jackets, he had a motorcycle helmet, and she looked
just plain rough and unrefined in every way.

I would go directly to the mother, and in the most syruppy-
sweet and understanding way, offer to take the baby to the
nursery so that the mother could "enjoy the meetings."
Certainly better than other attitudes, but still somewhat
"phony". I"m not really thinking of that mother. I am
thinking of my own convenience, and getting rid of the
annoyance of a distracting child.

So, I've spent my day pondering, how would the TRUE
LOVE that the TRUE SAINTS have one toward another
handle such a situation? And here is what I'm getting
from the Spirit now. And remember, I'm preaching to the
mirror!! God's people are so taken up with making good
impressions when they have conferences and special
meetings. People come to your "love feasts" and "oooh"
and "aaah" about how much "love" you show, and what
great servants you are one to another. You drip with honey
sweetness and gooey mushy love words of acceptance
toward your visitors. Yes, you are very impressive, and
people leave your conferences and they cannot say enough
GOOD about your church and your ministry. But what
happens when the "show" is over? What happens when the
special meetings are over, and the visiting preachers and
conference attendees go home? You fast and pray for the
glow of the glory and the beauty of holiness to be all over
you when you know "someone special" is coming. But
rarely do you make any such special effort for those ones
who are faithful to you week by week and are the true
reason you can even SAY you HAVE a ministry!!
The Lord is looking at how we treat each other, the people
we must LIVE with, day by day. He is seeing our attitudes
and judgments of one another. He is seeing when we leave
someone out of the party, and just don't care. He sees
when we go with the "he rd mentality" against one poor little
saint who has been singled out to receive the "refrigerator"
treatment. He sees when we are checking to see which
way the "wind is blowing" when we decide who will be our
friends. God is not fooled. These are the "spots" in your
"feasts of charity". When there is one face for the people of
God who come to visit and a different face for the people of
God whom you live with and fellowship with week by week,
my dear friends, SOMETHING IS WRONG!!
The Lord is grieved, and VERY GRIEVED, and it's time for
the saints to learn how to truly love one another, and it's
NOT starting at your next conference. It's starting in your
midweek service, and in your Lady's Bible Study, and in
your "Men's Fellowship"meeting, and how you treat another
struggling little mother with a difficult child.... it's time for the TRUE LOVE OF GOD to be manifested!!
God is going to start tearing up some carpet, and pulling
back the covers, and the way you treat the people of God
"in secret" is going to be exposed for all to see... The Holy
Ghost is saying strongly, the covers are being pulled OFF
of how life REALLY is "at home" when you think no one
else knows or cares. You can even look at some of the
"reality" tv shows where they show people in real-life
situations as prophetic of what is coming in the Spirit in
His Church . God is saying the REAL YOU and the REAL
ME is coming out for all to see, and there is not going to
be any hiding behind impressive gifts and ministries and
talents and connections.
Beloved, I cannot fake the love of God if I don't really have
it. And I had best not even try. It's time to dig into the
Word, and get a revelation of the love of God, of the deep
love of God because we are coming into a time of strong
and horrible delusion even more than what we are now in,
and THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT WILL IDENTIFY THE
LORD'S TRUE PEOPLE!!!
It' s not going to be our revelations that will prove we are of God. It won't be our amazing "open visions". It is not going to be our hands dripping with oil when we pray over people... It won't be the "blue glory cloud" hanging low in a meeting where everyone is getting slain in the Spirit (and I"ve
actually seen such a thing.) The devil can imitate every
last one of those things. But, he will never be able to imitate the true love of God which is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost!!
Beloved, I want the REAL JESUS who is the HEAD of the
REAL CHURCH that has the REAL HOLY GHOST!!!
It's the HOLY GHOST that makes us LOVE ONE ANOTHER!!
There is a MOVE OF GOD COMING ABOUT THE LOVE OF GOD!!
They will KNOW we are Christians by our love!!

All Glory and Praise to His Name

In His Service

Rose Jacobs

Scripture from a lad. All full of sound and fury and signifying nothing. Because the sad bugger probably doesn't even understand a tenth of it, much less follow it.

At least the photo's new. To me.

Hannah's a curious little thing.

Quote:

------ Original Message ------
Received: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:24:28 AM EST
From: john david <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: NEXT STEP

>
> Attn Hannah
>
> Thanks for your mail,i want to assure you once again that this >transaction
and real and legal,the name Dorcas Gate is the name of the >account which was
used to deposit the said funds,

Now I'm confused. Why would it be deposited under another name?

>
> The reason why all this documents are needed to be put inplace is >because
of the rate and incident that has been going on in the world >today,like fraud
terrorist,e.tc before any funds can be transfered today >you must prepare all
this documents showing that this funds is free from >any evil act and free
from money laundry which i believe you should be >aware about.

I'm not a lawyer. How about you point me to someplace that explains what sort
of documents you need and why? I don't know that much about international
law.

>
> I want to inform your good person that i work in so many countries and >no
matter where i am located i still get things done as i have partners >that i
work along with with,in my last two emails i gave you the numbers >that i use
in dublin including the office line,

Which one was the office line, and who should I ask to speak to? Which of your
colleagues would I need to speak to if I have to call?

>i have some case that i am handling presently in nigeria which is not and
>will not stop this success of this transaction as me and my collugues are
>putting everything in order to make things work fast.

Could you tell me their names, please? I like to know who is doing the work
for me.

>
> Due to the present state of her condition that is why she is not able to
>pay all this charges for putting the documentation on your name for the
>successfull conclusion of this transaction.
>

I told her I don't mind paying. She wrote me today with a lovely dream she
had, and sent me a personal picture. I wish you would do the same, so I could
frame them and hang them up, to acknowledge the people who did such a
wonderful thing for me.

> Please do endevour to make the payment to the account office who is
>presently also with me.
>

Your entire account office is in Nigeria with you?

> THROUGH WESTERN UNION.
>
> MR JOHN OZEIGBE
>
> ADDRESS:20 ALLEN ROAD
>
> CITY:IKEJA
>
> STATE:LAGOS
>
> COUNTRY:NIGERIA
>
> TEXT QUESTION:WHAT FRUIT
>
> ANSWER:MANGO

I'm afraid I've never sent money through Western Union before. How do I go
about it exactly? How does it work?

>
> I want to assure you once again that if you can attend to issues as they
>arise all will be concluded in less than few days because once all this
>documents are done the funds will be released to you immediately with no
>delay in less than 48hours.

Right, but how long will it take to complete the documents themselves?

>
> I await your urgent reply.
>
> John Peter Fahy David
>
> God Bless
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less.

If you can answer my questions about Western Union, I'll see if I can send the
payment in a day or two.

Hannah

I also decide to play "I can say just as much as you can without saying anything." with "Rose". Or really, I just try to see if I can get her to say anything that isn't copied and pasted from a prophecy mailing list...

Quote:

------ Original Message ------
Received: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:55:13 AM EST
From: "rose jacob" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: My picture again and a dream i had

>
> Dearest Hannah Jane Morcum, I had a dream after being up in prayer much >of
the night. This dream was not deep at all, and very easy to >understand. The
dream itself is it's own interpretation.In my dream, I >was in a city that
sort of reminded me of Market Street in Philadelphia

Really? When were you in Philadelphia?

>... I think that's the street where there are lots of little shops , and >the
"in-crowd" goes to hang out, if I'm remembering the city right.
>(Interestingly,Philadelphia does mean 'Brotherly Love .') I saw three >shops
that had their door opened to the streets. In one shop, it was >obvious
something of religion was going on that had nothing to do with >the Lord Jesus
Christ. It was very blatantly some pagan religious >service going on, even
though it was just a small shop.

I'm so curious about this dream of yours. You have to tell me more. But how
did you know it was pagan? How was it blatantly pagan?

>In the next shop, I saw three men sitting. One looked just like Jesus,
>like any picture you might see in a Christian store of Jesus. He even >had a
"glow" about Him (if it was truly Him.) He was sitting off on a >little couch
looking very "Jesus" like. At a desk was a distinguishedly >dressed man, like
a well-honored, scholarly Bible teacher.I was aware of >another man in the
room, but don't recall his appearance, and don't think >I ever really saw him
clearly. But he was there.

So, which pictures of Jesus did he look like? The ones where he's all thin and
has blue eyes and blondish hair, or the ones where he's a big, brawny
dark-eyed Middle Eastern Jewish specimen? He was a carpenter by trade after
all. He must have had better muscles than some of those pictures portray. All
that hammer swinging.

I suppose those three men must have been the Trinity,right? But was the one
you couldn't see the Holy Ghost or the Father?

>The third shop, I was aware of, but didn't know much about what was going >on
there. I stood there wondering if the people in that shop were >truly the
Lord's people, and if that was truly the REAL Jesus. My heart >was searching
for the answer as I felt like I wanted to worship the Lord, >and bring my
friend that was with me to worship the Lord, too. I didn't >want to connect
her to something that was not truly God.

What's your friend's name? Dorcas Gate?

>On the outside of this shop, and suddenly in front of my face, these >words
began to appear:"For there shall arise false Christs..... [the part >about
false prophets was not in my dream] and shall show great signs and >wonders...
(from Matthew 24:24.) In the dream, I felt myself then more >furiously and
pensively within searching for the right answer to satisfy >my need for
discer
>
> nment. And then, as if it were the most natural thing in the world, and >yet
with a sudden and holy unction,

I'm not sure I understand what you mean there. Affected or exaggerated
earnestness? Or with some sort of balm?

>I said to the woman I was with.... someone I was apparently "discipling",
>and I looked her in the eye, and I said to her: "The true followers of >Jesus
Christ, the true disciples of Jesus Christ, will be known for the >love they
have one toward another."It was such a simple little word, void >of flashing
lightening, or thunderbolts, or appearances of angels... but >I knew I had
spoken the Word of the Lord, and the feeling that filled my >inner being was
one of great satisfaction that I had broken through to >revelation every bit
as much as if I had given a word of the Lord for any >"deeper life" website
or publication.

What kind of website or publication? Are there websites devoted to prophecies
and dreams and such? I might be interested in seeing those.

>I looked this woman in the eye, >and I felt the fire of God that I was
>imparting TRUTH to her. Suddenly >the scene changed. I found myself in
>what appeared to be a "storefront" >church. I was on the front row
>waiting for the service to begin, and people were walking in off the >street,
and the front of the church was near the entrance into this >church. A young
couple came into be part of the service. They seemed not >to be able to agree
on where they would sit. This couple also had with >them a very active little
two year old girl. There was no way this child >would be still. I began to
envision her running back and forth between >them in the service, whining,
giggling, carrying on, not able to be >still. That little thing would end up
being a great interruption and >annoyance to my being able to concentrate on
the service.

You must not be able to concentrate very well if you find a little thing like
a two-year-old distracting. We don't even have a nursery for our church, so
the children attend all services.

>And then I woke up, and the Spirit spoke to me to consider how I would >deal
with that situation if I were in it in reality.How would I react >toward that
young couple that had come to church with a feisty two-year >old, obviously by
their dress not regular "church" people. They were in >jeans, heavy jackets,
he had a motorcycle helmet, and she looked just >plain rough and unrefined in
every way.

That's very unfair and judgmental of you. Just because you're dressed as a
biker doesn't mean you don't attend church regularly. That's like saying all
blondes are stupid. And you wouldn't like that very well if everyone called
you dumb just because of your hair, now would you? Speaking of which, that's a
lovely picture. But I didn't get the second one. I'd love to see more pictures
of you, so please send any more you might have. I assume there's more than one
because you said "my picture again."

>I would go directly to the mother, and in the most syruppy-sweet and
>understanding wa
>
> y,
> offer to take the baby to the nursery so that the mother could "enjoy >the
meetings." Certainly better than other attitudes, but still >somewhat
"phony". I"m not really thinking of that mother. I am >thinking of my own
convenience, and getting rid of the annoyance of a >distracting child.

My, goodness, yes, that's selfish of you. We love having children in the
service!

>So, I've spent my day pondering, how would the TRUE >LOVE that the TRUE
>SAINTS have one toward another handle such a situation? And here is >what
I'm getting from the Spirit now. And remember, I'm preaching to the >mirror!!
God's people are so taken up with making good impressions when >they have
conferences and special meetings. People come to your "love >feasts" and
"oooh" and "aaah" about how much "love" you show, and what >great servants
you are one to another. You drip with honey sweetness and >gooey mushy love
words of acceptance toward your visitors. Yes, you are >very impressive, and
people leave your conferences and they cannot say >enough GOOD about your
church and your ministry. But what happens when >the "show" is over? What
happens when the special meetings are over, and >the visiting preachers and
conference attendees go home? You fast and >pray for the glow of the glory
and the beauty of holiness to be all over >you when you know "someone special"
is coming. But rarely do you make >any such special effort for those ones
who are faithful to you week by >week and are the true reason you can even SAY
you HAVE a ministry!! The >Lord is looking at how we treat each other, the
people we must LIVE with, >day by day. He is seeing our attitudes and
judgments of one another. He >is seeing when we leave someone out of the
party, and just don't care. >He sees when we go with the "herd mentality"
against one poor little >saint who has been singled out to receive the
"refrigerator" treatment. >He sees when we are checking to see which way the
"wind is blowing" when >we decide who will be our friends. God is not fooled.

He sure isn't. He can see right through lies and falsehoods and deceits.

>These are the "spots" in your "feasts of charity". When there is one face
>for the people of God who come t
>>
> o visit and a different face for the people of God whom you live with >and
fellowship with week by week, my dear friends, SOMETHING IS WRONG!! >The
Lord is grieved, and VERY GRIEVED, and it's time for the saints to >learn how
to truly love one another, and it's NOT starting at your next >conference.
It's starting in your midweek service, and in your Lady's >Bible Study, and in
your "Men's Fellowship"meeting, and how you treat >another struggling little
mother with a difficult child.... it's time for >the TRUE LOVE OF GOD to be
manifested!! God is going to start tearing up >some carpet, and pulling back
the covers, and the way you treat the >people of God "in secret" is going to
be exposed for all to see... The >Holy Ghost is saying strongly, the covers
are being pulled OFF of how >life REALLY is "at home" when you think no one
else knows or cares. You >can even look at some of the "reality" tv shows
where they show people in >real-life situations as prophetic of what is
coming in the Spirit in His >Church . God is saying the REAL YOU and the REAL
ME is coming out for >all to see, and there is not going to be any hiding
behind impressive >gifts and ministries and talents and connections.
Beloved, I cannot >fake the love of God if I don't really have it. And I had
best not even >try.

Sure can't and you had better not. But why do you keep saying "friends" when
you're sending this to just me. Or did you want me to read this out in
public?

>It's time to dig into the Word, and get a revelation of the love of God, >of
the deep love of God because we are coming into a time of strong and >horrible
delusion even more than what we are now in, and THIS IS THE ONLY >THING THAT
WILL IDENTIFY THE LORD'S TRUE PEOPLE!!!It's not going to be >our revelations
that will prove we are of God. It won't be our amazing >"open visions". It is
not going to be our hands dripping with oil when we >pray over people... It
won't be the "blue glory cloud" hanging low in a >meeting where everyone is
getting slain in the Spirit (and I"ve actually >seen such a thing.)

Really? Are you one of those "Holy Rollers" or something?

>The devil can imitate every last one of those things. But, he will never >be
able to imitate the true love of God which is shed abroad in our >hearts by
>
> t
> he Holy Ghost!! Beloved, I want the REAL JESUS who is the HEAD of >the
REAL CHURCH that has the REAL HOLY GHOST!!! It's the HOLY GHOST that >makes
us LOVE ONE ANOTHER!! There is a MOVE OF GOD COMING ABOUT THE >LOVE OF GOD!!
They will KNOW we are Christians by our love!! All Glory >and Praise to His
Name In His Service Rose Jacobs
>
>

By the way, why is your lawyer in Nigeria, right now? And why didn't you pay
him to do the paperwork before he left? Not that I mind paying for it, I'm
just curious. And do you have a number in Dublin where you can be reached? Or
know what his colleagues are named? He keeps saying he has colleagues in
Dublin, and I can't reach him on that Nigerian number.

Hannah

Lawyer-boy gives me a totally crap explanation, but a really good laugh about how he spelled "grocery store".

Quote:

Attn Hannah

Thanks for your mail,she used this name to deposit this funds because this name the it was deposited with is also her name as the late husband name is also Called Mr Gate anyway as i have said in my last mail that this is not a problem or soever as everything is under controll.

I have explained to you that before any funds are transfered worldwide you must present all this documents showing that the funds are legal which protect your own intrest as well so that your government can accept the funds and you wont face any problem that is why this funds is needed to put all this documents in place.

The First number is the number to reach my collugue Edward Solomon,but i am the right person to talk to about this process as i am the one Mrs Rose D Jacobs has ask to prepare all the necessary documents to enable you recieve the said funds which i gave you a number to reach me at and wont mind giving you a call.

This is my Account officer who is presently with me at the moment that is why the funds needs to be sent to him.

You can find a western union location around you or go to a Grossary Store around you or super market and ask they also operate Western union money transfer,you can ask about for their office but a Grossary Store will help you out.it will be ok if the funds can be sent today to enable things move fast.

Depending on when i recieve the fee from you the documents wont take more than 3days.i want to assure you once again that i am a christain and a sincere person that was why Your benefactor choose me to assist you in preparing all the documents needed,

I go now to await your reply.

John

Damn. Those Dublin lawyers really can't spell, can they? And I thought the American school system was going downhill...

Next time, more lovely stolen pictures, and some more fun playing "pin the explanation on the lad".

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:29 pm

Rosie-bean comes back at me with some more lovely, stolen photos.

No explanation of who the random kids are. Nice looking group. Seem to be on a campout or something.

And for good measure, a bonus montagey sort of thing. She must have one of those fancy new split-screen cameras...

Accompanying the photo-age, this additonal glurgy glurge. However, at least a teeny bit of it seems to be off-script, so that's something of a joy.

Quote:

Dearest Hannah

How are you today?and your faith in the lords work,i do not have access in meeting with this fee due to my present condition please i want you to try all you can to pay the charges so that you can recieve this funds as i am not too well right i assure you that all will be well whatever you put into this will be gotten back as i want you to take a step of faith and do this,I do not have access to a phone due to my present condition and this is so sad for me cos i have a voice problem,the lawyer has some other cases he is attending to that is why he is in Nigeria at present and he does not stop him from putting things in order,i do not have all the strength to type muchmy child i do not have to force you to believe me or do this but if it is the lord wish that this happens surely it will,if he can lead the isrealite out of egypt he will never fail me, A great tragedy within the Christian faith is that many who believe they are on their way to Heaven will one day find they are sadly mistaken. They have been misled into believing that Church membership, good deeds or special classes will insure Salvation, but they will be cast aside on the day of judgement.

This tragedy must be fought by speaking the truth about Salvation. We must teach of the need to trust in the saving grace offered through the sacrifice of Jesus for the forgiveness of sin. We must teach that faith in Jesus Christ - the Lord and Savior clearly
presented in God's Word - is the ONLY way!

A second great tragedy is that many who have truly trusted in Jesus for the forgiveness of sin, and desire to love Him and serve Him with all their heart, will live their earthly days full of doubt and fear. They are on their way to Heaven but doubt when they don't feel "good enough" to deserve such a gift, and they fear a Holy God who couldn't possibly save such a wretched sinner. As they draw closer to the Light, their failures are revealed and they become discouraged or try to "work" harder to please God and gain His acceptance. We must also fight this tragedy by speaking the truth about Salvation.

The glorious truth is that none of us are good enough! "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). Without God's grace, no one can ever hope to hit the mark of His perfect glory.

We don't enter Heaven based on what we've done, but only on whom we've placed our faith; "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith" (Ephesians 2: Cool

. At the moment of Salvation, we become an eternal Child of God: "You are not your own; you were bought at a price" (1 Corinthians 6:19-20). We were purchased with the blood of Jesus and have become a "new creation: the old has gone, the new has come" (2Corinthians 5:17). A new creation does not continue down the same path as the old.

We are "born again" when the Spirit of God transforms our heart; and as a new creation, we must learn to crawl, then walk, and one day run! We may sometimes stumble, but God promises we will continue to grow; for it's His plan that ALL His children become "conformed to the likeness of His Son" (Romans 8:29), and conforming is a lifetime process!

Philippians 1:6"Being confident of this, that He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus."On the day of our Salvation, God began His work in us. He gave us His Holy Spirit and "sealed {us} for the day of redemption" (Ephesians 4:30). Let's be confident in God's promise. We must continue to draw closer and give Him more of our heart, but we must also remember that we are His and He WILL finish the work He began. Our Heavenly Father has saved us promised to carry us to completion.

I await your reply

Regards

Rose G Jacobs

Hannah decides to give the lawyer another going over with a fine tooth comb.

Quote:

------ Original Message ------
Received: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:31:52 AM EST
From: john david <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Urgent Reply Needed

>
> Attn Hannah
>
> Thanks for your mail,she used this name to deposit this funds because this
name the it was deposited with is also her name as the late husband name is
also Called Mr Gate anyway as i have said in my last mail that this is not a
problem or soever as everything is under controll.
>

So, which was his legal name? Jacob or Gate?

> I have explained to you that before any funds are transfered worldwide you
must present all this documents showing that the funds are legal which protect
your own intrest as well so that your government can accept the funds and you
wont face any problem that is why this funds is needed to put all this
documents in place.
>
> The First number is the number to reach my collugue Edward Solomon,but i am
the right person to talk to about this process as i am the one Mrs Rose D
Jacobs has ask to prepare all the necessary documents to enable you recieve
the said funds which i gave you a number to reach me at and wont mind giving
you a call.
>
> This is my Account officer who is presently with me at the moment that >is
why the funds needs to be sent to him.

Ah, I see. Is there not a bank transfer option, then? I hear those are more
secure.

>
> You can find a western union location around you

We don't seem to have one. I've looked in the Yellow Pages in the phone book,
and there isn't a listing for Western Union.

>or go to a Grossary Store around you or super market and ask they also
>operate Western union money transfer,you can ask about for their office >but
a Grossary Store will help you out.it will be ok if the funds can be >sent
today to enable things move fast.

Well, I finally found a local super market that operates the transfers, but
they only do it when their service desk is open. And the service desk only
operates from eight to four on weekdays. So it will have to wait until Monday,
I think.

>
> Depending on when i recieve the fee from you the documents wont take more
than 3days.i want to assure you once again that i am a christain and a sincere
person that was why Your benefactor choose me to assist you in preparing all
the documents needed,
>
> I go now to await your reply.
>
> John

I'll let you know more when I can.

Hannah Morcum

I also decided to fish for a real bank account, just in case I could shut that down for the little dears.

And for sheer fun, I decide "What the heck? I'm a Sunday School teacher, I can play quote that scripture for your own purposes game just as well as anyone." and go for it with Rose. Hey, it amuses me, at least.

Quote:

------ Original Message ------
Received: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:58:35 PM EST
From: "rose jacob" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Some other pictures for you and a mail

>
> Dearest Hannah How are you today?and your faith in the lords work,i do >not
have access in meeting with this fee due to my present condition >please i
want you to try all you can to pay the charges so that you can >recieve this
funds as i am not too well right i assure you that all will >be well whatever
you put into this will be gotten back as i want you to >take a step of faith
and do this,I do not have access to a phone due to >my present condition and
this is so sad for me cos i have a voice >problem,the lawyer has some other
cases he is attending to that is why he >is in Nigeria at present and he does
not stop him from putting things in >order,i do not have all the strength to
type muchmy child i do not have >to force you to believe me or do this but if
it is the lord wish that >this happens surely it will,if he can lead the
isrealite out of egypt he >will never fail me, A great tragedy within the
Christian faith is that >many who believe they are on their way to Heaven will
one day find they >are sadly mistaken.

Oh, I agree absolutely. You simply wouldn't believe the number of people who
act all pious and God-fearing and saintly on the outside, but inside, they're
rotten. Just breaking God's commandments left and right, all the time talking
about how saintly they are. The absolute cheek!

>They have been misled into believing that Church membership, good deeds >or
special classes will insure Salvation, but they will be cast aside on >the
day of judgement. This tragedy must be fought by speaking the truth >about
Salvation. We must teach of the need to trust in the saving grace >offered
through the sacrifice of Jesus for the forgiveness of sin. We >must teach
that faith in Jesus Christ - the Lord and Savior >clearlypresented in God's
Word - is the ONLY way!

Yes, faith is the only way to salvation, but we should prove our faith by our
works, as well. Like how we treat our fellow man.

> A second great tragedy is that many who have truly trusted in Jesus for >the
forgiveness of sin, and desire to love Him and serve Him with all >their
heart, will live their earthly days full of doubt and fear. They >are on
their way to Heaven but doubt when they don't feel "good enough" >to deserve
such a gift, and they fear a Holy God who couldn't possibly >save such a
wretched sinner. As they draw closer to the Light, their >failures are
revealed and they become discouraged or try to "work" harder >to please God
and gain His acceptance. We must also fight this tragedy >by speaking the
truth about Salvation.
> The glorious truth is that none of us are good enough! "For all have >sinned
and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). Without God's >grace, no
one can ever hope to hit the mark of His perfect glory.
> We don't enter Heaven based on what we've done, but only on whom we've
>placed our faith;

But we show our faith by our works. Faith and works go hand in hand. Without
works, our faith is dead. The Apostle, in James 2:17-26, sets the necessity of
works, as the result of faith, in a strong light. "Even so faith, if it hath
not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I
have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will show you my faith
by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils
also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without
works is dead? Was not Abraham, our father, justified by works, when he had
offered Isaac, his son, upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his
works, and by works was made perfect? And the Scripture was fulfilled which
saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness:
and he was called the son [friend] of God. Ye see, how that by works a man is
justified, and not by faith only. Likewise, also, was not Rahab, the harlot,
justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them
out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without
works is dead also."

All the talk about grace in the world or all the faith in the world is useless
if you don't prove your faith and grace with how you live.

>"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith" (Ephesians 2: Cool

. >At
the moment of Salvation, we become an eternal Child of God: "You are >not your
own; you were bought at a price" (1 Corinthians 6:19-20). We >were purchased
with the blood of Jesus and have become a "new creation: >the old has gone,
the new has come" (2Corinthians 5:17). A new creation >does not continue down
the same path as the old.

Exactly. And if you aren't living the way you should, you're spitting on the
sacrifice of Jesus. I wouldn't want to be one of those people who talk about
God out of one side of their mouths, then break his commandments with their
lies and crimes against others. There's a special place in Hell for those
people.

> We are "born again" when the Spirit of God transforms our heart; and as >a
new creation, we must learn to crawl, then walk, and one day run! We >may
sometimes stumble, but God promises we will continue to grow; for >it's His
plan that ALL His children become "conformed to the likeness of >His Son"
(Romans 8:29), and conforming is a lifetime process!
> Philippians 1:6"Being confident of this, that He who began a good work >in
you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus."On >the day
of our Salvation, God began His work in us. He gave us His Holy >Spirit and
"sealed {us} for the day of redemption" (Ephesians 4:30). >Let's be confident
in God's promise. We must continue to draw closer and ?give Him more of our
heart, but we must also remember that we are His and >He WILL finish the work
He began. Our Heavenly Father has saved us >promised to carry us to
completion. I await your reply Regards Rose >G Jacobs
>
> _______________________________________________
> No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.
> Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com
>

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What lovely children. Are they yours?

Hannah Morcum

I also decide to throw a monkey wrench in the lawyer's plans, and to try to actually get this bozo to have some sort of contact with the real law firm where the real Peter Fahy works. I figure it will be good for laughs, on my end, and possibly drive home the reality to the firm that a scammer is using them in a scam. I mention that I'd like to bring in a lawyer for some additional work. I also want to make the miserable scumbag spend some money faxing or shipping. Oh, Mr. John Peter Fahy David... yoo hoo...

Quote:

Hi, I just wanted to give you an additional update on things. Since Rose has
been so wonderful about donating her money to me, and she wants so badly for
it to go to a Christian cause, being the good Christian that she is, I
contacted a lawyer friend of mine for advice as to how we could get the money
transferred from my account to the local church without too much fuss and
extra expense. He suggested I contact a friend of his who happens to practice
law in Ireland, to act as my local representative, so to speak. Doing so
should allow us to get the money transferred and to the church without
incurring any more expense on taxes and fees than we would just transferring
it to me.

I'm all set to send you the payment tomorrow. I just need for you to send my
solicitor in Dublin some documents. I realize this might be a little more
expensive and troublesome, since you're in Nigeria, at the moment, but I hope
you can either have Edward Solomon back in Dublin do it for you or maybe
you'll allow me to pay you some extra for your time and trouble. Just let me
know sometime early tomorrow, and I'll add it on to the payment I'm already
sending.

Please fax or physically mail by courier a copy of the change of ownership
certificate and the certificate of deposit. They can be copies that haven't
been notarized, yet. And Mr. Beattie, the solicitor, would also like a copy of
your ID included, if it isn't too much trouble. As I've said, I'll gladly add
the extra expense to your fees if you'll let me know the cost. He needs hard
copies of the documents as soon as possible, so he can get to work on helping
me avoid any further taxes and fees once the money has been transferred to me.
He thinks we can get the full amount into the hands of the church, where it
can do the most good. He just needs copies of those documents so he can get
started on the paperwork on his end. You can either fax it to D. Beattie, +353
1 6644300 or mail it to D. Beattie at

One Earlsfort Centre
Earlsfort Terrace
Dublin 2

If you physically mail it, just make sure you send it with a tracking number.
If you fax it, just include your email address and a note on the cover sheet
of the fax, asking D. Beattie to confirm receipt to your email address,
[email protected]. Once it's been mailed and you can provide the tracking
number, or you can forward me the email showing the fax has been received,
just let me know how much I should add onto youre legal fees, and I can run by
the WU.

Hannah

Mr D. Beattie is a real lawyer at the firm, and that's the real firm's address. I figure if the scammer is familiar with it, he'll have to do some fancy scrambling to get out of it, if he wants any money.

Well, the little scumbag proves he's familiar with where he stole his info, because he knows the D. stands for David. He also tries to "smooth" his way out of this, and to play the Christian card. (Oh, excuse me, "christain" card. How do they expect us to believe it when they can't even spell it?)

Quote:

Dear Hannah

How are you today?how was yestedays church service i hope it was ok.

I want to thank you for your effort to make this transaction a successfull one in less than few days,according to your email you wrote to me over paying taxes and the issues of transfering funds into your account,your benefactor Mrs Rose has told me to make sure you do not pay any taxes or so over when this funds get to your account that was why i set aside Mr Edward to handle this aspect and myself also,i am also going to prepare all documents backing this funds so that once it gets to your account you wont pay any charges or so over when trasnfering the funds to any other account.and i will send you all the hard copies on your request through fedex.

Regarding your Solicitor Mr David Beattie is someone i know,and i will do as you have instructed if you and your benefactor as agreed for him to assist and be involve in this as your benefactor never mention this to me but this is not a problem,but if you are able to pay the my ticket expenses of $1,070 i will have back myself to take care of everything in person,what i want you to know is that this fee is needed to put all this documents in order to effect the release of the said funds to you

I want you to know that your benefactor my client has intructed that i also include a pepar work stating that she is giving you 30% of the total funds for carrying out her wish which i will also send to you and the lawyer if you still insist for him to carry on as i will be also willing to work with you till the last as no one will want to loose a client like you as this is a big transaction because i know and understand that once this is done i stand to gain alot from you once you recieve the said funds.

As a christain i want you to know that theree is nothing prayers cant do we should continue to be in one accord in prayers for the successfull conclusion of this transaction ,please read this verse as it is one of my best verses Eccl:9:10:11.

Lastly i want to tell you that whatever you are able to do pls do so that we can get this done as soon as possible as i am also here to assist you,

I have all the contacts of Mr David Beattie.so i will reach him once all the documents are done in less than 3days as i have informed you once this funds is recieved.

Thanks

John

He's obviously getting anxious, because before I dole out my next response, I get this.

Quote:

Dear Hannah

How are you today?i have not heard from you,i hope all is well,please let me know the situation of things as time is not on our side.

I await your reply

John

Rose gives me some more cut 'n' paste "religion".

Quote:

Dearest Hannah

How are you and your family hope they are doing great,Hannah i have much faith and trust in you that you will get this done soonest,i am so ill now but please i want you to act fast because of time.i have been praying very hard to see that everything is done,we've considered our need to walk with God in continued obedience in order to honor Him and allow us to experience His very best. God's plan is that we learn to live in His presence and become "conformed to the likeness of His Son" (Romans 8:29). This means we must listen intently for God's direction and follow where He leads, not just blindly walk down what appears to be His path.

David was crowned king of Judah soon after Saul died in about the year 1010 BC. About seven years later, all of Israel acknowledged David as their new king. One of David's first actions as king was to attempt to move the Ark of God from the home of Abinadab to Jerusalem. David and all the officials believed that by making the Ark a more central focus for the nation, God would bless all of Israel.

This was a very exciting time. The Ark was being transported on a new cart pulled by oxen, and over thirty thousand people were "celebrating with all their might before the Lord, with songs and with harps, lyres, tambourines, sistrums and cymbals" (2 Samuel 6:5). But even during this time of great excitement, God clearly demonstrated the need for obedience.

2 Samuel 6:6-7"When they came to the threshing floor of Nacon, Uzzah reached out and took hold of the Ark of God, because the oxen stumbled. The Lord's anger burned against Uzzah because of his irreverent act; therefore God struck him down and he died there beside the Ark of God."

Uzzah's intentions were good, but God considered his actions "irreverent." Uzzah desired to serve God by keeping the Ark from falling to the ground, but his enthusiastic and we ll intentioned actions were not directed by God. In fact, Uzzah's actions were in
direct conflict with God's Word.

During the time of Moses, God had given instructions that the Ark should be moved with poles (Exodus 25:14-15) and that anyone who touched the Ark must be put to death (Numbers 4:15). Uzzah served where he thought there was a need, but he served at the expense of true obedience.

We must learn great sensitivity to God's leading. Seemingly godly action, if done outside the will of God, is sin. We must never assume that what "looks" good and godly is truly of God. Our Heavenly Father will always be faithful to lead us in His perfect will. But we must be willing to spend time (often, lots of time!) worshiping at His feet, communing with Him in prayer, and waiting patiently for His direction. As we serve our Lord, let's do so with great enthusiasm; but let's always allow Him to lead and serve Him in obedience.

The lord be with you.

Regards

Rose Jacob

At this point, my better Christian virtues are losing out to the desire to find these two and shove a Bible up their behinds. Then light them on fire.

Hannah pokes the holes in the lawyer's arguments, and holds firm. No outlay of cash, no WU.

Quote:

------ Original Message ------
Received: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 06:18:45 AM EST
From: john david <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Urgent Reply Needed

>
> Dear Hannah
>
> How are you today?how was yestedays church service i hope it was ok.
>

It was wonderful and uplifting, as always.

> I want to thank you for your effort to make this transaction a >successfull
one in less than few days,according to your email you wrote >to me over paying
taxes and the issues of transfering funds into your >account,your benefactor
Mrs Rose has told me to make sure you do not pay >any taxes or so over when
this funds get to your account that was why i >set aside Mr Edward to handle
this aspect and myself also,i am also going >to prepare all documents backing
this funds so that once it gets to your >account you wont pay any charges or
so over when trasnfering the funds to >any other account.and i will send you
all the hard copies on your request >through fedex.

I need you to send them to Mr. Beattie, actually. You see, maybe I wasn't
clear, but he's working on the paperwork necessary for me to transfer my 30%
of the fund to the local church, in as direct a manner as possible. You see, I
will owe some taxes on the amount that goes into my account, because it's a
monetary gift to me of more than $10,000.

What Mr. Beattie is arranging is for the amount to only "rest" in my account
temporarily, then to go on to the church, without anything else being taken
out for taxes. My friend is a tax lawyer, you see, and he recommended Mr.
Beattie. Seems they know one another from a professional conference and are
friends. And the initial paperwork must be filed in Ireland, before the
transfer actually takes place, or I'll owe additional taxes to the U.S.
government on my 30%. Mr. Beattie was recommended because my friend felt
having a separate solicitor to handle that paperwork would avoid any
appearance of impropriety or conflict of interest. I'll have to let Mark know
that you know David as well! Such a small world!

>
> Regarding your Solicitor Mr David Beattie is someone i know,and i will >do
as you have instructed if you and your benefactor as agreed for him to >assist
and be involve in this as your benefactor never mention this to me >but this
is not a problem,

I don't see why Rose would object. It has nothing to do with the initial
transfer. Just the taxation of my portion after the transfer. It has nothing
to do with her share. Mr. Beattie just has to get the paperwork started before
the actual transfer takes place, so please, follow my instructions in the
previous email, and either FedEx them and provide me with the tracking number,
or Mr. Beattie's emailed confirmation that he's received the fax. I really
have to insist on covering your additional costs. I can't allow you to pay for
those things out of your own pocket when you've already done so much.

>>but if you are able to pay the my ticket expenses of $1,070 i will have
>back myself to take care of everything in person,what i want you to know >is
that this fee is needed to put all this documents in order to effect >the
release of the said funds to you

I wouldn't want to pull you away from Nigeria prematurely. That would be
unfair to your other clients. I'm sure between you and Mr. Solomon, you can
handle the actual transfer, even with you in Nigeria. I will pay the fee for
the preparation and notarization of the final documents once you have the
final total, including your cost of sending the preliminary copies to Mr.
Beattie. As I said, they don't have to be the final, notarized versions, just
the preliminary ones.

>
> I want you to know that your benefactor my client has intructed that i >also
include a pepar work stating that she is giving you 30% of the total >funds
for carrying out her wish which i will also send to you and the >lawyer if you
still insist for him to carry on as i will be also willing >to work with you
till the last as no one will want to loose a client like >you as this is a big
transaction because i know and understand that once >this is done i stand to
gain alot from you once you recieve the said >funds.

Yes, and I'm so appreciative of what you have done and are doing, for both me
and Rose. I hope I made it clear that I'm not bringing in Mr. Beattie to take
over the actual transaction or because I don't believe in your ability to do
the work. He's merely brought in to handle the business with the taxes on my
end once the 30% is transferred to me. I wouldn't normally mind paying the
taxes, but since I want as much of it as possible to go to the church, I'm
willing to seek Mr. Beattie's help, since he's an expert at tax law, and knows
all the legal intricacies on the matter. But if you know Mr. Beattie, I'm
sure I'm telling you nothing new. He's an absolute financial whiz, according
to Mark, and there would be none better to make sure every penny possible gets
passed on to the Church after being deposited in my account.

>
> As a christain i want you to know that theree is nothing prayers cant do we
should continue to be in one accord in prayers for the successfull conclusion
of this transaction ,please read this verse as it is one of my best verses
Eccl:9:10:11.
>
> Lastly i want to tell you that whatever you are able to do pls do so that we
can get this done as soon as possible as i am also here to assist you,
>
> I have all the contacts of Mr David Beattie.so i will reach him once all
>the documents are done in less than 3days as i have informed you once >this
funds is recieved.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>

As I said before, you need to send him the unnotarized copies now, before I
send you the payment. If I pay you and he starts his paperwork after the
documents you're preparing have been finalized and notarized, his work is null
and void and I still have to pay the taxes. He needs the documents before you
get them done, or I'm liable for the full amount of the taxes once it's
transferred to my account. Have I made that clear? You need to send him the
unnotarized, preliminary copy of the Certificate of deposit and the change of
ownership certificate. It doesn't need to be the notarized copy. I understand
you'll be getting those once I send you your legal fees. He needs those for
his paperwork. As I said, he must have those documents in his possession
before I can mail the payment.

You can either fax it to D. Beattie, +353
1 6644300 or mail it to D. Beattie at

One Earlsfort Centre
Earlsfort Terrace
Dublin 2

If you physically mail it, just make sure you send it with a FedEx tracking
number.
If you fax it, just include your email address and a note on the cover sheet
of the fax, asking D. Beattie to confirm receipt to your email address,
[email protected]. Once it's been mailed and you can provide the tracking
number, or you can forward me the email showing the fax has been received,
just let me know how much I should add onto your legal fees to cover that
additional work, and I can run by the WU. You'll be saving me several thousand
taxes, so it's well worth the extra expense.

Hannah

She also dangles the extra money. But the dunce seems too thick or lazy for that extra work.

Quote:

Thanks for your email,as i told you before that this fee is needed to incure all this document from the high court,i have alot of work to do so please if you are ready to carry let me know as i have alot of work the 575 must be recieved to incure all this documents.

Peter Fahy david

Right. Hannah tries to go to work on them through Rose. However, I think Rose is a cut and paste automaton with no brain. Still, Hannah gives it the old college try.

Quote:

------ Original Message ------
Received: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 04:49:09 PM EST
From: "rose jacob" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Some other pictures for you and a mail

> Dearest Hannah How are you and your family hope they are doing
>great,Hannah i have much faith and trust in you that you will get this >done
soonest,i am so ill now but please i want you to act fast because of >time.i
have been praying very hard to see that everything is done,we've >considered
our need to walk with God in continued obedience in order to >honor Him and
allow us to experience His very best.

Well, I'm trying to get your lawyer to send some copies of the documents to a
Mr. Beattie in Dublin, so he can do some additonal work for me, and help me
get some of the 30% (my share) transferred directly to the church without
additional loss to taxes. However, Mr. David doesn't seem to understand what I

need. He acts as though he doesn't understand how to fax or mail the copy that
hasn't been notarized to Mr. Beattie, for some reason. But I'm going to call
Mr. Beattie and talk to him, so we can get it all straigtened out. I'll pass
along Mr. David's phone number in Nigeria to Mr. Beattie. Mr. David says he
actually knows Mr. Beattie personally! Isn't it such a small world? The hand
of God must be at work in this, me choosing a lawyer to assist after the
transfer who knows the lawyer doing the actual transfer. What are the odds?

>God's plan is that we learn to live in His presence and become "conformed >to
the likeness of His Son" (Romans 8:29). This means we must listen >intently
for God's direction and follow where He leads, not just blindly >walk down
what appears to be His path.David was crowned king of Judah >soon after Saul
died in about the year 1010 BC. About seven years later, >all of Israel
acknowledged David as their new king. One of David's first >actions as king
was to attempt to move the Ark of God from the home of >Abinadab to Jerusalem.

Right, and you know what was kept in the Ark? The ten commandments. The
original ones.

>David and all the officials believed that by >making the Ark a more >central
focus for the nation,

Yes, and shouldn't we all make the ten commandments our central focus?

>God would bless all >of Israel.This was a very exciting time. The Ark >was
being transported >on a new cart pulled by oxen, and over thirty >thousand
people were >celebrating with all their might before the Lord, >with songs and
with >harps, lyres, tambourines, sistrums and cymbals" (2 >Samuel 6:5). But
even during this time of great excitement, God clearly >demonstrated the need
for obedience.2 Samuel 6:6-7"When they came to the >threshing floor of Nacon,
Uzzah reached out and took hold of the Ark of >God, because the oxen stumbled.
The Lord's anger burned against Uzzah >because of his irreverent act;
therefore God struck him down and he died >there beside the Ark of
God."Uzzah's intentions were good, but God >considered his actions
"irreverent." Uzzah desired to serve God by ?keeping the Ark from falling to
the ground, but his enthusiastic and well >intentioned actions were not
directed by God. In fact, Uzzah's actions >were in direct conflict with God's
Word.During the time of Moses, God had >given instructi
>
> ons that the Ark should be moved with poles (Exodus 25:14-15) and that
>anyone who touched the Ark must be put to death (Numbers 4:15). Uzzah
>served where he thought there was a need, but he served at the expense of
>true obedience.We must learn great sensitivity to God's leading.

Maybe you should also send this story to your lawyer, Mr. David. He doesn't
seem to understand the necessity of following my instructions about sending
the copies of the documents to Mr. Beattie BEFORE he has them notarized. This
is to help out the church. It means the church gets a bigger portion of the
money. Yet, Mr. David doesn't seem to want to help out my solicitor Mr.
Beattie in getting his paperwork started.

>Seemingly godly action, if done outside the will of God, is sin. We must
>never assume that what "looks" good and godly is truly of God.

Yes, appearances can be so deceiving.

>Our >Heavenly Father will always be faithful to lead us in His perfect >will.
But we must be willing to spend time (often, lots of time!) >worshiping at
His feet, communing with Him in prayer, and waiting >patiently for His
direction. As we serve our Lord, let's do so with >great enthusiasm; but
let's always allow Him to lead and serve Him in >obedience. The lord be with
you. Regards Rose Jacob
>
> _______________________________________________
> No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.
> Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com
>

I couldn't agree more. Maybe Mr. David feels differently? Have you made it
clear to him that he needs to not waste time? I'll call Mr. Beattie, and see
if there's some way around needing the copies of the unnotarized documents, or
maybe if he can explain it directly to Mr. David. I'll give him Mr. David's
number in Nigeria.

Hannah

She also delivers a mild-ish slap to the lawyer, hoping at least for a rise.

Quote:

As I've tried explaining to you twice now, Mr. Beattie needs a copy of the
unnotarized documents in order to get started on HIS paperwork. You seem to be
misunderstanding me. Before he can do his paperwork, he needs a faxed or
mailed copy of HOW THE DOCUMENTS LOOK RIGHT NOW, BEFORE YOU GET THEM
NOTARIZED. IF YOU NOTARIZE THEM FIRST, HE CANNOT FILE THE PAPERWORK PROPERLY.
I am willing to pay the extra expenses you incur in providing him the copies,
be it your fax charges, if you have to visit an internet cafe, or the cost of
getting copies made and sending them FedEx. Or maybe I'm not using the proper
legal terms? Do I need to give Mr. Beattie a call directly and talk to him?
Maybe pass along your phone number in Nigeria? I already have a phone number
for Mr. Beattie in Dublin. Maybe I'll give him a ring and make sure I'm
understanding him correctly and explaining it right.

Hannah

However, the bait is deaded. Sigh. Oh, well. Hoping at least for a "feck off" or something, I send this to both Rose and Johnny Four Names. No response, yet, but hey, I did finally get an all-text bait!

Quote:

You have got some serious explaining to do. Actually, I doubt either of you
will be able to explain things to my satisfaction. You see, I've just been
talking with Mr. Beattie, and he revealed something very interesting, Mr.
David. He has no idea who you are. You're lying about knowing him. He knows NO
John Peter Fahy David. You are lying about who you are, it seems, and maybe
even about being a lawyer. For every single one of the professional groups you
claimed to be a member of say they have never heard of you. And your "friend"
Mr. Beattie doesn't know you either.

He does KNOW a Peter Fahy. In fact, he works in the same firm, O'Donnell
Sweeney. And would you believe, your so-called professional credentials match
his exactly, all except for the birth year? Despite none of the professional
groups having a John Peter Fahy David on their membership lists. And you most
definitely don't look like him on that ID you sent.

You are apparently a liar and a fraud, sir. No wonder I couldn't explain a
simple legal concept to you. No wonder you and your "accounting department"
aren't in Dublin. It's because you're a fraud, liar and fake, isn't it? You're
not trying to help me and Rose. You're trying to line your own pocket, aren't
you?

And Rose. Rose, you should be ashamed as well. If you're on the up and up
about being ill and needing help getting your money, I feel terribly sorry for
you that your so-called lawyer is pulling the wool over your eyes and taking
advantage of you. And he's likely trying to steal from you, as well.

But at the very least, you seem to be a liar, too, Rose. You see, your
"vision", I found a copy of it elsewhere. On the internet. From a prophecy
email list. You seem to have copied someone else's holy vision and tried to
pass it off as your own. Are any of your emails really yours, Rose? Did you
write any of them, or are they some kind of script? I notice you never
answered any of my questions when I replied, and you kept spouting off about
being holy. I'm beginning to believe you don't even understand half of what
you wrote. If you're being dishonest, Rose, even by plagiarizing other
people's sermons and visions, you're a liar and a sinner, Rose. Were any of
those pictures really you, Rose? Or did you "borrow" those from someone else
as well? Like you borrowed your so-called vision?

Both of you should be thoroughly ashamed. Mr. David, if you really are
defrauding a sick and dying woman, you had better drop to your knees and ask
God to forgive you, especially after you assured me you were a good, honest
Christian. And you, Rose, I hope your deception was only a small one, not a
complete lie. If not, you had better be doing some hard praying and changing
your life, too. Even if you only lied about the vision, you've sinned, Rose.
Shame. We crucify Jesus again when we sin. You've both just given your savior
a grand slap in the face by lying to me.

You two have some heavy explaining to do. And not all of it to me, either.

Hannah Morcum

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:16 am

The stupid lad is plagiarizing (sp?) a 'Clo Dibilato'. Look here www.etpv.org/2003/tlovog.html . Just do a yahoo or google search on her name, and you'll find all kinds of junk. Your lad is stealing *everything* from her.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:08 pm

Link's not working for me, but yeah, I had already tracked down several possible sources for the lad's cut and paste. I'm not sure that one speaks much English at all, as they were very hard to blast "off-script". One of the first Google hits I got was from a Prophecy group mailing list, so I'm almost positive that would be where the lad took it from. And I think her name is "Clo DiPilato". I was kind of interested in where they stole the pics from, though. Maybe I'll stumble on the source of those someday.

It's like the lad playing Rose was given the direction "Act all pious!" and couldn't manage very well...

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