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sparky905
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Lads are funny creatures. I know they want our money and lots of it if possible, but this request was a first for me. To simplify the transaction they asked me outright for my character's banking details.
Needless to say they won't get them since my character's bank account doesn't even exist, but I think asking for a few i.d. pieces and documents and such from this alleged banker would be in order.

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To provide the login details to your Tdbank account, this will cost nothing to involved parties.


I have never had a lad just up and ask for such info before. Amazing gall.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I've never had lad asking for login details. Please post more of this bait!
" will cost nothing to involved parties." Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This banking scam involves capitalising on the Wells Fargo scandals of recent vintage.

The first letter from the scammer began with:

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A federal judge this weekend signed off on a deal under which Wells Fargo & Co. will pay $142 million to settle a bevy of class-action lawsuits over the bank’s creation of unauthorized accounts.

If you think the San Francisco-based financial institution created sham accounts in your name, here’s what you need to know to get a piece of the settlement.


I wrote back and said I was not even a client of Wells Fargo but would love to claim some compensation money. Strangely......I qualified! To proceed all I had to do was send in name, address, i.d. scans etc and the lad sent this gem:

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Please provide details as requested. As though youre not a customer of our bank.


Then another snag....I live in Canada. This settlement is for US citizens only. However, my lad found a loop hole and has allowed me to collect.

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Apparently, you reside in Canada. How would you want to recieve funds?
Does your bank at TDBANK happen to have an online access?


Canada might not be the centre of the tech world, but we do have online banking available here. So I wrote back that I can do online banking.

He wrote back to me. I'm not sure what the first line means (smaller settlement?) but the rest is clear.
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This funds are not same width as those of recent times you have made withdrawals from.

On this basis, you gave the alternative to make provision for a new credit card account alongside its particulars or provide the login details to your Tdbank account, this will cost nothing to involved parties.

As well, do you have a credit card account regardless attached to any bank, if so please you're only two steps from recieving $50,000
Within 24hours.


But, as a wiley Canadian, my character asked to simplify it by having Wells Fargo just mail him a cheque.

Quote:
You can always mail me a cheque, I can deposit that! That would simplify things.


Apparently this violates some international bank scam code of ethics and a cheque will not be issued.

Quote:
We have ethics and guidelines, hence we abide by them. Awaiting reply soonest Sir.


My character is getting confused.......so he wrote

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Sir I have ethics too. I am unclear what you wish of me. You want me to send you my login details to access my personal bank account?


This request for clarification was met with ambiguity.

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Thank you Sir,
Regards your previous messages. We provided alternatives and you're to make choice of any alternatives.


My character wrote back, again just to clarify things.

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Sir: I need clarification here please. What, specifically, are my options. I want to comply but am not clear on how.


He responds with details at last.

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Here are the alternatives
1. to make provision for a new credit card account alongside its particulars or
2. To provide the login details to your Tdbank account, this will cost nothing to involved parties.

As well, do you have a credit card account ? regardless attached to any bank, and its online details if so please you're only two steps from recieving $50,000 per 24hours


I guess I'm supposed to sit back and allow this guy to empty my bank account? So I changed directions.

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I have a TD Visa Card. Is that helpful?


The lad writes back

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Do you have the online access of the card ? It should be a credit card with an account. Most important information is the online access


Once I confirmed one could have access to this card online, he sent the following:

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You can as well empty your account so you hand over the access to us on an empty account. The first transfer will be deposited you have to withdraw and send to designated authority related to the monetary policy in your region. As well, can you stipulate your credit score? What is the limit of your card ?


I think my character's score will be a good one and his limit will be very tempting to any scammer. Once we get "almost" there, it will be time to ask for his i.d. details etc just to slow things up.

Overall though, considering I am not a Wells Fargo client, it is good of them to offer me compensation! And all this can be mine once I forward bank details to this guy.........

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I wondered when lads would start something WF-related.

This is going to be a fun read.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:12 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The lad was quite forthright about having me send personal log in details if I had money in that account. He must be an honest thief! Also, his warning not to interfere by logging in while he does his thing is good advice. I badly want to avoid loopholing the wiring!

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As regards what has earlier been said. It will be preferable to have an empty account handed over, would you send your account login details with money in It? If you' have no problem with that then there is no problem. During the course of crediting your account you are not to login or make any activity in the account to avoid loopholing the wiring.

Furthermore, we have a compiled list of 100 non customers of the bank who will be getting wire transfer soonest, you're adviced to make up your decision as soon as possible.


Alternatives as stated earlier ;
1. Request a credit card from our bank and it will be sent to your address sitting 2-3days

2. Make provision any of the bank details you have online access (bank account or credit card )

Thank you


Being Canadian, my character is polite and almost apologetic for even asking questions.....but he feels he must just so he is clear on this matter. The threat of loopholes in the wiring is something most Canadians take seriously.

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Sir:

I can send login details once I fully understand this process. I would need to know when you wish to have access to my banking so I don't log in and disrupt your business as you attend to matters on my behalf. How long would you need unfettered access to my personal banking? I don't want to create any loop holes in the wiring, nor compromise the space/ time continuum of overloading the bank's server. Also, my bank often does server maintenance on Friday night's into early Saturday mornings, so let me know when you need access and I will advise you of their maintenance schedule accordingly.
Before I do, I just realised that I have been corresponding with you but don't know your name! I know you are an executive with Wells Fargo and that you care deeply about customer service. I should have asked previously but was so overwhelmed by the prospect of the compensation, I forgot!
Since you know my name already, can I please have yours and your job title with the bank? "Dear Sir" is formal and businesslike, but I am sure we are going to be friends after this and all you have done to help me qualify to receive my compensation. Also, can you forward your i.d. to me please so I can put a face to a name?

There is one further question, did you want access to my credit card or my bank account or both? I will need to know in order to send the information.


What scammer wouldn't want both if he could get them? At least he warned me to empty my account first. It's good to know you can trust some scammers to watch out for your interests!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am so embarrassed......I have been referring to my lad as "sir" when he has been a woman all along. Yikes. I must write a note apologising for this oversight. I might almost, but not quite, send some banking information too.

I do like how professional the language in this matter is. "this scheme is off the books" is often a term used in professional circles to describe above board legitimate business opportunities.
I am struggling to figure out if I am showing "maximum corporation " though. And how does one show "corporation" let alone maximising it? So many things about the financial world I don't understand.

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You must know that this scheme is off the books. We are only getting at this to aid the boost our financial recognizance through the monetary statistical parliament at the next World bank assessment hence recieving this message is due to past records and random selection, yo< can only make mention of this scheme after you have recieved funds and you're to ensure maximum corporation.

As part of the ethical injunctions, I can't send out my personal ID through this medium. You can follow this link and I have most of my details outlined
https://www.wellsfargo.com/about/corporate/governance/mack

Here is my personal email, but I wouldn't advice you send any mail only when needed in a case of urgency to response.
Email: [email protected]

Also, your online access will be needed as in return of your next response. Every available online access to bank and credit card will be needed right here and now.

Thank you for your cooperation


The lad actually provided links to real Wells Fargo personnel and their actual corporate emails addresses. But since the lad "adviced" me not to use it, I won't. I'll wait before responding since he/she seems in a hurry now. Best to slow it down......

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You are quite right to slow down this bait. You absolutely cannot risk loopholing the wiring! That would rip a hole in the space/time continuum! Laughing Laughing Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This lad is quote helpful, giving me a nice list to fill in for my personal banking info so that Wells Fargo can direct deposit into my account.
He even went so far as to recommend I do it for any/all accounts I have with any bank anywhere. All this to make it easy for me.

At this point I'm open for some innovative delay ideas. I was going to have my fake banker talk to the scammer who is allegedly a banker. Just to allow them to ensure this is done without incident. Or having my banker serve as a crooked banker in this incident. This lad is drooling at being so near to having this info, it's time to smack him.

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I will outline a form for you please do well to fill every information.

1. On this order please fill in the available details per accounts, state if bank account or credit card account
>bank name
>account name
>routing number
>account number
>username
>password
>security questions and answers if any

Please send reply as soon as possible.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

srichards wrote:
You absolutely cannot risk loopholing the wiring! That would rip a hole in the space/time continuum!


The repair bills for continuum ruptures are absolute murder, so I've heard.

Sparky, WRT your thoughts on a crooked banker; maybe you need to ask Big X if Virgil Hilts has moved branches lately.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Here is the type of scammer we all dream about, one that is fair minded. My character asked if he wanted access to all my accounts with every banking institution but this guy in an act of self discipline has requested only my TD Bank personal information. I had told him I bank with two other institutions, but he only wants access to one. This guy is not greedy but rather modest in his aspirations.

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Please ensure to send details of ONLY TDbank bank account and credit card account details.

Thank you for your understanding

Regards

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The sudden appearance of that savvy banker Mr Hilts has caused a rift in the space/time continuum for the lad. Several loopholes in the wiring have appeared. Things have not gone smoothly of late.

The scammer does not trust the banker and while engaging with him, is trying to execute the scam behind the scenes with my character. It has reached the lawyer stage now, and my character has suggested he speak to Hilts to get a local trusted lawyer to handle this (and accept the fees of course). This inspired the following from the lad.

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The attorney designated for your claim is to no negotiation, any attorney can not take up beneficiary cases, and these attorney are in contract with the bank , at every location. Discussing with Mr Hilts will be transfering the vetoed decisions of the board to an individual's decision, I wouldn't advice that.

Follow these instructions as I would guide you in all procedures, your just a step away from your claims.


In spite of the poor command of the English language, it seems he does not want Hilts finding the lawyer (and the fee), and wants my character to follow some simple instructions.

Amazingly.....the payout on this has gone from $50K to $1 million! If only I listen only to the lad.........

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hilts has been in touch with this lad for a week now, but he is still very suspicious of me. He also does not like the way Hilts talks, which makes it endlessly amusing to piss him off further by cursing even more.


Immediately after Hilts introduces himself, the lad demands to see his ID:

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Please can i see your ID. What bank do you operate and why are you texting from a private mailbox?


Hilts responds to this with appropriate scorn:

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What are you fucking stupid or something? I’m coming to you with an offer to join a criminal fucking conspiracy to rip off my client and your asking for my goddam ID? And you want me to email you from my official bank email? Get the fuck out of here! What the fuck are you thinking?

By the way, your emailing me from a private email too, dipshit. So I could ask you the same fucking question! But I know your really a scammer, so I’m not gonna waist my goddam time doing that.

Look, all you need to know is that I’m at TD Bank and I manage the $2.7 million CAD that Francis has in his account here. Simple question, do you wanna work with me to rip him off for big money or not?


The lad protests that he is not trying to cheat Francis:

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What best can I do for you? I am not intending to rip Mr Francis, this is just a communique to get him as one of a substantial customers. What part do you play and can we take this discussion off this mail? How do you intend to make a share in your proposal ?
Do.you have the logins to his credit card account ? Bank account? I would appreciate if that is made available.


Hilts is not fooled:

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Bullshit your not trying to rip him. Don’t try to fool me, asshole! I know what you are, and I know what your not. Your no fucking banker and we both know it. So how about you drop the bullshit act and work with me?

As long as your not a total idiot, here’s how we’re gonna work the old fool: you run your scam and get him to pay big money through me. I’ll take the cash and do the money laundry needed to make the transfer untraceable, and than we’ll split the take 50/50. Sound good to you?


After a few more emails, the lad informs Hilts that he doesn't appreciate his rough language:

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Mr hilts, I will advice you make less use or no use of profane languages. Do me a favour of suggesting how best we can work, because clearly I have just the idea of getting into his accounts and then credit it with up to $200,000 dollars after which he makes withdrawal of $50,000 to $30,000 and makes payment to the monetary agency in his region which monitors the inflow and out flow of transfers.


Hilts is unrepentant about his language, and doubtful about the lad's plan:

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Oh, I’m sorry princess, did I offend your delicate fucking sensibilities by swearing? Grow the fuck up, dude. If you don’t like how I talk, than go find some other goddam idiot millionaire to steal from. That’s what I thought.

Now, with your idea for the scam, what in the hell are you talking about? Your gonna give that dipshit Francis $200,000.00 CAD and than have him pay you back for the taxes or some shit like that? What’s the scam their? You gonna reverse the transfer of the $200,000.00 CAD after he sends you the cash? Or are you sending him real money and trying to use him as a mule? Fuck that noise, dude. It’s too complicated.

Here’s what I think you should do: tell the stupid bastard that he’s won some money and invent some fee charges he’s gotta pay. I’ll tell him it’s legit and he’ll believe it. Than in stead of actually sending the money, I put it through my buddy’s money laundry operation and make it look like the cash just disappeared. That way, when Francis eventually figures out that he got scammed and calls the cops, theirs nothing leading them back to us.

Make sense?


The lad is still hung up on the idea of getting online access:

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If i get an online access to his account, that doesn't guarantee I can move any amount from his bank.

Besides you profer the deal, who possible can i trust you in making a deal where you get to handle the whole sum. (It took me several tries to try to figure out what he was trying to say here, and I still don't think I understand it)


Hilts patiently explains his plan again:

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What in the fuck are you talking about? Don’t be a goddam moron, your not gonna move the cash by hacking his online banking account!

We’re gonna run a scam on him and get him to pay big money, than we’ll do the transfer in a way that makes it look like the cash just disappeared. I’ve done this shit many times before, I know what the fuck I’m talking about.

And I don’t care if you don’t trust me. You don’t have a choice except to work with me, because I control the account your trying to rob, and I can get Francis to believe anything. So if you wanna make any money out of this perfect mark, your gonna have to work with me whether you like or not.


The lad tells Hilts he asked Francis for $3000:

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I sent him a bill of $3000 for legal fee, so you need to tell him about how banks operation work. Clients get to pay legal fee to an attorney associate of the bank. After we put off this deal, then I will have proposal for you.


Hilts is annoyed that the lad is wasting time with small amounts:

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Are you fucking serious? I’m telling you I can get Francis to pay out for millions, and you wanna waist time asking him for small boy shit like this $3,000.00 CAD? You gotta be fucking kidding me!

Quit it with your bullshit. I’m not gonna risk loosing my job or going to jail for pocket chunk change. Go ask the old fool for more money.


The lad objects to Hilts's swearing again:

Quote:
Do not use profane languages.
Also, if you say you are who you are , you will carefully allow me do my job and in turn have a concrete substance to rely on.
Making plans to extract millions from a client is by all means too dubious.

At this point, I have sent a legal fee to Mr .Francis to make payment, of $3000 this fee will do a whole alot to securing the whole job over time. If we mess this fee up, everything stumbles.


Hilts berates him some more for being a prude and thinking too small:

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Listen shithead, your a scammer, a crook, a thief, not some pussy ass little bitch delicate flower. Your seriously pissed off that I’m using cursive language? Honest question: why do you give a shit? I’m gonna talk the way I wanna talk. Go fuck yourself sideways with a fucking lunchbox if you don’t like it!

Your “legal fee” is bullshit, and it’s fucking stupid to waist so much goddam time on this piddly ass small money when you could be making the big score right now. I’m telling you, you should go for the big money right now. Don’t wait!

Bottom line: If your smart, you’ll listen to me. But if, as I’m starting to suspect, your a goddam grade A moron, than you’ll waist everybody’s fucking time trying to collect pocket chunk change from a goddam millionaire. Come back and talk to me when you wanna make some real money.


The lad wants to hear again what Hilts want him to do:

Quote:
Sorry for the delay in response, the uncommon term here is Trust. I do not know who you are but i trust you, and I know you do not trust me, I clearly understand that. To earn that trust, clearly spell out what and what you want me to do regards any proceedings towards the aforementioned client, and how you intend to be of aid.


Hilts, starting to get impatient now, explains it again:

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I thought I was pretty fucking clear what I want you to do, but I guess I’ll tell you again. Here’s what you should do: Run a scam on Francis for big money. Ask him for $300,000.00 CAD or more, and tell him to send it through a bank transfer. I’ll tell him it’s legit and say I transferred it.

But really what I’ll do is start the money laundry. I’ll have my buddy whose a big shot banker in the Caymans disguise the source of the money so nobody can tell where it came from, than drop your share of the cash for you in a dummy account at any bank wherever you want. We walk away and nobody ever knows what happened to the cash, it just looks like it disappeared.

Sound good?


After a few more email exchanges, the lad objects to the cursing again:

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If you must see a light to this you must abstain from profane languages. I need you to be calm and understanding. Youre lucky to have me responding to you (oh, it's not luck) and as well i see potentials working with you.

I have a plans for you, (funny you should say that, so do I) exclusively out of the aforementioned client. And this holds a pretty deal. If you think there is a possibility to work things real good, then keep humble and remain in the ethical train.


I think it's hilarious that a scammer is objecting so much to the way Hilts talks. Of course, Hilts will respond with even more scathing vulgarity tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It is so amusing to watch the banking professionals discuss matters in the jargon of their profession! The lad is pretending to listen to Hilts but has been emailing my character to do an end run around him.

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If i may suggest, you should ;make cash withdrawal, issue a cheque on the fee to be paid or make a mobile transfer via mobile app or USSD and ensure the payment goes smoothly, and affirmed. In a course of affirmation, your case claims will be prioritized and a secured link with your lawyer will be established


I don't think Hilts will like this.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The lad's previous account got suspended, and he changed to a different box:

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You can contact me through this mailbox. If i may ask, what is the position of your client, Mr francis ?


Hilts snarks on "position":

Quote:
Position? What the fuck kind of idiotic question is that? I guess the stupid bastard is sitting or standing, when not lying down.

What’s with the new account anyways? What’s the matter asshole, did your last account get suspended?


The lad waves this off:

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I had to deactivate it for a while. Did Mr. Francis leave a message for you authorising any transfer ?


Hilts calls BS:

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Bullshit you deactivated it. Your a really shitty liar, you know that? I’m sure gmx kicked your dumb scammer ass off and your too chickenshit and stupid to admit it.

Whatever. I don’t really give a shit about that. I care about making money, so let’s see if your any good at that.

Francis didn’t authorize shit. He said he wants to leave the banking side of things to the professionals, whatever the fuck that means. By the way, you can tell he’s a real goddam moron because he thinks your dumb ass is a professional.

So what’s your plan? How much did you ask him to send?


After the lad asks Hilts to get Francis to send $4,000, Hilts berates him for thinking small:

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Dude, Francis didn’t authorize shit because he’s a fucking idiot. And he’s probably not responding to your new email address because it’s going to spam or some shit. I can’t help you with that, you gotta fix that problem for yourself.

But fuck all that. I wanna talk about your weak ass scamming game. Are you fucking 5 years old or something? $4,000.00 CAD is fucking nothing, goddam peanuts!

You don’t seem to understand that I’m taking a much bigger risk then you here. If you get caught running scams over their in Nigeria, it’s no big deal because you can just bribe the cops or some shit. But in Canada, that shit doesn’t work. If I get caught working a scam with you, I’m gonna get tossed in jail for 10 years.

Now, if I’m gonna risk loosing my job and 10 goddam years of my life, it better be worth the fucking risk! I’m not gonna waist time with small money. Understand?


The lad makes excuses for why he's not asking for more:

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Yes i understand you. But I need good tools to work. Right now i dont have tools for webmail or mail processor. All these shiits alongsode documents will aid it. Meanwhile i have to make it up a good story line, how do i get all these done. For now i dont have money to spare here. I have my family to feed and cater for.

So if you know youre ready to work me in. Get to remind Mr. Francis that i hav communicated with you and you needed to send this money, that from the evidence you have confirned it to be okay and safe . After this, and i get this fee. You need to trust me in a close of 3 to 4days i am pulling up a new deal of $400,000 to $250,000 you need to get in this deal. We can do this, from the 4000cad i will get i have about 3000 to pay for webmail and webhost sites. At least this materials will pull up a real interface of government badge. And all so a lil profit from this 4000 is like 500cad fpr personal nd family cater. We need each other hilts. And i got you covered. I need to trust you to play real when this 300k is out.

Meanwhile make contact with Mr. Francis to make this deal first.


Hilts is unmoved by his cries of poverty:

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Your not listening to me, dipshit. I don’t give a fuck about your family, and I defiantly don’t give a fuck about whatever email and hosting costs you got. I care about protecting my ass. I’m not taking the risk of sending you money directly in the open, even if it is authorized by Francis.

Let me ask you something: when this scam you got going falls apart, and Francis realizes that he got robbed and calls the cops, whose the first person their gonna come talk to? Yeah, their gonna come looking at me. And if the cops see direct links between me and a Nigerian scammer, what’s gonna happen then? That’s right, I’m gonna be tossed in prison for 10 goddam years!

You know what happens in prison, right? I had a buddy who got caught running this kinda job, and he got 5 years. I visited him a few weeks ago, and he told me it’s a nonstop fucking rape party up in their. I had to talk the poor bastard out of killing himself!

So forgive me if I don’t wanna risk taking 10 years of brutal ass rape just because you wanna make $4,000.00 CAD. I’ll take the risk for serious money. But not for that piddly ass bullshit. Ask the old fool for more!


The lad gets frustrated and suddenly becomes far more vulgar:

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He wont pay more until we pull this off.
Youre getting hard on this and you are trying to ownthis party. Youre lucky to talking with me, your dipshit asshole modafucker. I am trying to make peace here but you feel all bossed up. Let me tell you, without you i can get something out of other people and if you feel you cant send 4000 you have been authorised then fuck off. I will move on, and maybe you dont know what youre dealing here. You think you are a snart ass. I work my way up for 300k and you smelling piss of shit clears money and runs off never to hete from you.
Crasy ass hole.
You playing no way. You either make meaningful points or you excuse my mail and wait for another saviour to get you 300k. Cock sucka


Hilts reminds him who has the power in this situation:

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Oh my, such filthy language! I guess you finally dropped that “no cursing” bullshit, eh? About fucking time!

Listen here, you dumb motherfucker: your never gonna find a mark who is better then this, not if you keeping scamming for a million fucking years! This is it, the best it’s ever gonna get! Francis is rich and stupid, and he’ll listen to anything I say. You’ll never have a better chance to make big money. But in stead of thanking God or whatever the fuck you believe in for your great luck, you wanna be an asshole and waist time by asking for small money!

But that’s not how it is for me. This is not my only chance to work this job. I could find another scammer who wants to work with me to rob Francis next week. And that guy probably wouldn’t be half as much of a dipshit as you! So your the replaceable one, not me. You need to act like it. First rule of business son, know when you have leverage and when you don’t.

I told you, Francis is stupid and will do whatever I tell him. If you ask him for big money and I say it’s legit, he will pay, I guarantee it. So stop being a fucking idiot and just do it!


The lad backs off his tough guy act and folds:

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Ok hilts. Send me exactly ehat you want me to send to him .. stating the amount i need to request from him. And you know he is gonna pull off.

Remeber i have assured him of sending 1million USD to him when it is time to get paid hopefully soon, at that verge what do you suppose i tell him?


Hilts tells him to think up something:

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Dude, just tell him you need him to pay $150,000.00 CAD for demurrage charges or a security bond or some shit. I don’t know, just use your imagination and make something up. Tell him to come talk to me about it and I’ll tell the dumb bastard it’s legit.


After several days of the lad making things more complex than they need to be, Hilts tells him that Francis has agreed to pay:

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Good news dude, he authorized me to send you the money! Just one thing though: We’re gonna need to do some money laundry on the cash before I can send it to you. I got a buddy whose a big shot VP down at a bank in the Caymans, and he can help us with this. I’m gonna take a couple days and get my buddy on the job. Sit tight for now.


The lad doesn't like this plan:

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I dont feel good about this, and yet i dont understand the laudring. why involving your buddy into this. i am skeptical who you are and what your intentions are. i see no reason why this shit is gonna take up days and require movement without plainly explaining to me whats going on or explain what i should keep await for. Please detail me what your next steps are? is the money available in the account? how much are you pullling out? how is the movement going, how do you intend sending it now down here? i would use the account i provided earlier, the client who jhad that account has been out of reach and mayb he blocked me, so what now?


After the lad gets impatient, Hilts tells him to chill and explains how the money laundering works:

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Calm the fuck down dude. I know you don’t know this because your a fake banker, but real bankers don’t work weekends, dipshit. You need to be a little more patience.

I told you what my intentions are. I’m gonna make some fucking money off Francis, unless you fuck things up. Here’s how it’s gonna work. You get Francis to come in here and pay the cash. Now, I can’t send your share of the cash in the open because it’s too risky. Think about it like this: if shit gets fucked up and that idiot Francis realizes he got scammed, what’s he gonna do? He’s gonna call the goddam Mounties, and their gonna come looking at me. If theirs any direct connection between us, my ass is gonna get nailed and I’m gonna do 10 years hard time in prison.

That’s why we need to do the money laundry. I got a buddy whose a big shot VP at a bank down in the Caymans. He has the ability to hide the source of the cash and park it anywhere in the world in a dummy account under any name. That’s how you gonna get the cash. We’re gonna park the cash for you at a bank near you, your gonna go pick it, and than my buddy closes the account. Nobody else ever knows the account exists, and more impotently, nobody knows what happened to the cash. Understand?


The lad suggests using bitcoin:

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When u say fuck things up. How? (Oh, I'll find a way to blame it on him) I have done the best to this effect and I think the ball is in ur court ?

Besides i don't think is best idea to suggest how I pick this money , bcos firstly I don't know how you're gonna do that. Currently I am in South Africa and maybe sooner go visit my colleague doing hes marriage in Nigeria. So How would there be a dummy acct in Nigeria or south Africa.?

And how much from 150,000 am I getting ???? Can you send cash through bitcoin??? Untraceable as well


When Hilts doesn't respond right away, the lad gets mad:

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You fucking making me lose patience. Now you cant reply your damn mails ..never wanted msgs on texts. You should know my mails is 24/7days. You're extremely fucked up on this. How do you feel playing this game in your ball court?, you think i can't shift this ball to my court ??


Hilts is dismissive of his ideas:

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Chill the fuck out dude. Unlike your dumb ass, I work for a living and can’t always spend my entire goddam day babysitting shithead scammers. I was in a business meeting talking about a deal for more money then you’ve ever seen in your pathetic life. So go fuck yourself if you don’t like how I work.

Look, I don’t know what the fuck that idiot Francis has told you, but I couldn’t get the cash to you tomorrow even if I was sending it in a regular transfer. International transfers take several days to clear. And money laundry takes even longer. I’m not sending shit through fucking Bitcoin. It’s a goddam scam anyways, and it doesn’t hold value worth a damn. Trust me, I’m doing you a fucking favor by not sending it that way.

Listen, the money laundry is still the best way. Sit tight, my buddy is on it and he’s working on faking the dummy account so he can park the cash. If your in South Africa, that’s fine. My buddy has the ability to create a dummy account their too. Wherever the fuck you want it, dude. But I need to know exactly where your located so he can put it in a local bank branch for you. If you lie to me about where you are, it just hurts you.


The lad starts to question what Hilts is telling him:

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I find it a problem you not replying my whole questions ??? You shit hole calling me all kinds of names .. it's well.

Last time i checked international transfer takes less than a day through bank or western. You think you're talking to a baby ? Lol. Werey. Create a dummy account in Canada I will have a client go pick it up. Because right now , I can't say how many days m gonna be in Nigeria when I come down. And here in South banks are not stupid to have dummy accounts created on ones sake. You piece of shit talk poorly on bitcoins Lol, I am literally making observations.

Clear state what and what he could need to create d dummy account


His command of English is starting to slip a bit, as he gets more angry with me. It's a clear tell that I'm getting to him.


Hilts slaps him again to remind him who is in charge:

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Listen dickbreath, I’m doing you a fucking favor by sending you the cash at all! Get this through your head: I control what happens with the money. I could easily cut your ass out of the deal, keep the cash for myself, and tell the old fool that you scammed him and stole the $150,000.00 CAD. But I haven’t done that, and that makes me the best goddam friend you have in the world. So don’t fuck with me and test my patience.

I don’t think I’m talking to a baby, I think I’m talking to a stupid fucking moron adult who doesn’t know his asshole from a hole in the ground. You clearly know nothing about banking, and my buddy and me are goddam professionals with decades of experience. Don’t talk shit when you don’t know what the fuck your talking about.

Here’s what we need: we need the name you want the dummy account under, we need to know what bank you wanna use, and we need to know where your dumb ass is gonna be next week, so we can put it in a branch near you. That’s it. Can you give me that, or are you so utterly stupid that you’ll fuck that up too?


The lad briefly becomes more conciliatory:

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I am so sorry if you feel displeased. And I am grateful for this opportunity. I communicated with my agent and he says that South Africa has strict policies regarding receiving money through and international transfers are usually monitored. And over there in Nigeria, I might not be chanced to go there anymore, there are in chaos and rally over the elections, and very costly to travel down there. Hence you can cancell your partnership with ur buddy.

Guess so, I had to establish my communication with my person in canada and he approves that he can recieve the money in any amount and send it in due time when I can recieve it because now i dont hv documents verified to recieve or send money in this South afri. So please I would prefer you do cash deposit to his details. I am grateful for all these! More so how much am I expecting ???

Please here is the details:

<snip mule account, reported>

Please when should I expect the credit ??


Hilts trashes the lad again for suggesting a Canadian bank transfer in the open:

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Listen you stupid motherfucker, your still not grasping what I’m talking about here. I’m honestly concerned about your mental abilities. Did your whore mother feed you pure lead and drop you on your head a couple thousand times when you were a child? I swear I know mental defectives who are faster on the update then you!

What part of no direct transfers did you not understand? I can’t deposit the cash in this Canadian account because the financial regulators can see anything I send in the open. It has to be done through the money laundry, otherwise I will get nailed and sent to jail for 10 goddam years.

Also, you should fire your agent, whoever the fuck he is, because he’s a total dumbass. Or maybe you should keep him so you can be idiots together. Yes, South Africa has constrictive policies about international transfers, but we’re not gonna do it that way. We’re parking the cash in the dummy account in a way that looks like an internal bank transfer, so it doesn’t trigger the usual checks. It will just look like the money appeared their, got withdrawn, and the account was closed, all anonymous.

Seriously, you idiots are way out of your depth. My buddy and me know what the fuck we’re doing. We’ve done this shit before, several dozen times. We’re the pros, the all stars, the goddam best their is. So why don’t you stop being a fucking moron and just leave the thinking to the adults?


The lad starts to come completely unhinged, sending several hostile emails in a row and accusing Hilts of being a cop:

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You amaze me. A grown ass man like you just thinking he is getting good at throwing abusive words and you think you're the boss in every matters. You should know how much you have trampled on my patience. (I love hearing this) If you must utter abusive words dont dare call my mother into this. (I think I hit a nerve here) If you dont have respect for yours den so b it. We are talking here bcos of money sake and the purpose of creating a bond. But If you think you got it all right then kuddos to you. If you can't be wise enof to shut up and stop saying irrelevant talks then remained cursed. Also I notice you haven't spilled out how much i should be expecting

Is this somehow a joke or what ???


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Am sorry to announce to you neither in Nigeria or south Africa can you establish a dummy account and one still b a ble to collect cash. You know what? You need to being up another alternative


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Lol. HILTS are you a detective ? Something just occurred. Fucking truant, are you trying to lure this. (I have no idea what this means) A colleague processed money through dummy account and I was informed . He processed 30k and he had a dummy account open In United States and he was granted the access into the account online. And he sent his money himself through money gram to Ghana.

I Cant believe all these while you have been trying to get details to get to me that shouldnt be your concern too risky doing that with my hood, the spiritual after math here could end your life buddy. (I was wondering when he would get to the death threats) Don't let install visitations hit your family doors. The fuck, hilts you being a detective all these while. Lol.

Smart add dude thats y u refused a direct transfer. You asshole can get a dummy in cANada with tour own name put money then make transfers to the account I provided thereby saving the stress of dummy account in you country and another in mine can You believe as professional you claim to be your dead add didnt make you know these days not all who are here are cleared up, dont make me invoke your cause of sustaince here and trample it and couple of days you will not make it out. (This is all one sentence)

You need to chill out and make a point hence with me, I gat me battling the coat youre impersonating for. The governments agencies ? Hilts man you're damn no banker .lies


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Let's do it this way. Fuck your concern on getting bursted... create a dummy account and then lodge the money. After which makes transfers from the dummy account to the Canadian I sent to you. The is the only alternative here. And stop acting like you're a boss that I s should be scared of.. I have made arrangements for your sake and you will be taken good care of when the time comes. (I think this is another death threat?) So don't stress it, if you're a detective that very good. If you're banker I don't fucking nice. But that bullshits about getting jailed for damn 10years and making emphasis on your buddy and ur stupid self how professionals youre please stop telling me that.. we are here on business tidings and let's keep it that way. Btwn who uses the name of vigil hilts in Tdbank, so far nobody .. so please read wisely my statement initially on how to make do with a dummy account and all.


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Oh my God. I just stepped out of the bank and there is no way u can create a dummy account in another country except in same country .

So why dd u lie about opening in another country . And request my personal details ... you want to trace me. (No, I want to send your paranoid ass on safari) Lol. U shouldn't now, just send the money thats all


Hilts sees all those crazy emails in row and questions the lad's sanity:

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Motherfucker, what the fuck did I just read? Do you even speak English? You just sent me like 6 bat crap insane emails in a row, and none of them make any goddam sense. You need to get a fucking grip, because your crazy ass is loosing it!


The lad has more criticisms:

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How do i get my money ?
Using detective techniques wont be a safe idea , maybe you should send d money through cash deposits or open a dummy account and send money from that account to the Canadian account I provided. How is that hard to comprehend. Meanwhile how much am I getting from this ???


Hilts insults him some more:

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You can barely speak English, and clearly math and reading aren't strong subjects for you neither. Is their anything your good at besides waisting oxygen?

Seriously, their must be some reason your this dumb. Did you hit your head real hard when your dumb bitch mother shit you out? Or maybe some diseased bastard paid 25 cents to fuck her raw while you were in her belly, and his big dick poked a soft spot on your head? Or maybe your wastrel drunkard father didn't want such a dipshit kid and he tried to kill you with a shovel to the head? Is that it? (Full credit to DSW for inspiring these vicious insults)

Because we've established that your a goddam moron, I will spell it out for you: I told your dumb ass in my first fucking email to you that we're gonna split our take 50/50. And Francis paid $150,000.00 CAD. Did you forget how to divide by 2? Do you need a fucking abacus to get the right answer?

Stop asking stupid fucking questions.


He didn't like my insults of his mother before. That should enrage him.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I just love reading Hilts' replies...the colourful language and abusive tone are such a contrast to the "nice" Mr. Hilts my character and family entrust to his financial wisdom.

The lad is trying to ditch Hilts and have my character do the footwork instead. He wrote several complaining emails regarding Hilts to which my character replied

Dear Madam:

I am just back from the curling club (our team lost sadly!) only to find 3 messages from you in what appear to be dated 12:10, 12:18 and 12:27 pm. I am reading them thru again just to be clear on things. I will help you understand things from my end, so please bear with me.
I really don't understand who Mr. Hilts is to you, he prolongs and bluntly doesnt comprehend instructions. I am happy to answer this! Mr Hilts is a banker at my local branch and he and I have done business for years. He does a lot of investing for me too, and under his supervision, my portfolio has grown immensely. He has a sense about money and I trust his judgement. He also handles the affairs of my children and oversees the education savings plans for my grandchildren. So when you ask who he is to me, I can say he is my "go to" guy for financial matters.
When you say he prolongs things and doesn't comprehend instructions, that is a stinging accusation and I would like to know exactly what you mean by that. What is he prolonging? What instructions does he not comprehend, and whose instructions are these? Why on earth would you want to leave my banker out of things?

I do realise that you both work for different banks/corporations and perhaps there is some professional jealousy. I can assure you that Mr Hilts is a professional and in no way would he hold you responsible the scandals of Wells Fargo.


The lad is trying to be polite to my character Francis Crozier. He knows Crozier trusts Hilts but still wants to discredit him badly and have Crozier handle things on his own.

Sir, there is no time to jeopardize this scheme, Mr. Hilts finds it difficult to reply mails and this can be termed as him not taking responsibility of his clients intrest. Also he should know the implications of procrastinating proceeds and transfers. Wells Fargo is in a big hole and we need to get it out before due time, we can't rely on the "no attention and commitment on this from Mr. Hilts.

Madam:

I distinctly remember Mr. Hilts telling me a transfer this large is complex, and might take a few days to be officially "cleared". The transfer is not as simple as filling in a receiver and hitting the "send" button, a lot goes on behind the scenes. So when you state Mr. Hilts finds it difficult to reply mails and this can be termed as him not taking responsibility of his clients intrest. what specifically do you mean? Like us, he is probably awaiting confirmation of the process, and will update both yourself and me when the process is final. Perhaps Mr Hilts is attending to other matters while the transfer is pending?

You wrote Wells Fargo is in a big hole and we need to get it out before due time, we can't rely on the "no attention and commitment on this from Mr. Hilts. Madam, I understand the urgency, however think for a moment. If WF is in dire straits perhaps it is because, as you are now, rushing things and trying to put the proverbial cart before the horse? Mr Hilts and my bank itself are amazingly successful because they do not rush, because they work methodically and professionally. I hear what you are saying, but without offence, the man you are complaining about works for the successful bank and your institution hires lawyers in damage control mode to mitigate legal consequences. The message in that statement should be clear.
However, as a favour to you, I will check in with Mr Hilts and seek an update. To build trust in this business relationship I will ask him to update you as well so we are all on the same page.

Thank you for your concern.


I love putting the blame on professional jealousy or the fact that the indicted bank has its employees telling successful banks how to do business.

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