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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I need quick help in scambaiting this common scammer as long as possible before I lose him.


GARRY MARSHALL e-mail removed-Capone>


Hello,

Thank you so much for your response to my proposal. Good fortune has
blessed you with a name that has planted you into the centre of
relevance in my life. I want you to know that this transaction will be
100% legal and legitimate. Such opportunities only come ones' way once
in a lifetime. I cannot let this chance pass me by, for once I find
myself in total control of my destiny. These chances won’t pass me by.
You should not have anything to worry about, I will do everything
legally required to ensure that the project goes smoothly, it shall
pass through all Laws of International Banking, and you have my word.
The attorney will prepare the necessary Affidavits which shall put you
in place as next of kin; he will obtain the necessary clearances from
the UK authorities which will cover all the aspects involved in this
transaction.


The attorney shall be handling all matters of probate on your behalf,
he will have all the documents perfected, and with these documents he
shall come forward to my bank to apply for the immediate release and
transfer of the funds to the account you shall open. I have been a
banker for many years and I know perfectly how the system works. I can
assure you that you will not in any way regret your involvement with
me. We can do this if we join our hands together and work in good
faith. Firstly I want to assure you that this transaction is 100% risk
and hitch free and also you will need to assure me that I will have
unlimited access to my 50% of the funds (US$9M) once the funds has
been transferred into your account because the funds is going to be
transferred into your account and not mine so you are the one to
assure me that you will give my own part to me. In light of the above,


I will need you to provide me with the following details.
Your name and address in full.
Your home telephone and office telephone numbers.
Your fax numbers.
A detailed profile of yourself and company if any.
A valid identification


As soon as I get the information I will have my lawyer go ahead to
procure the relevant documents which will confirm you with the rights
of the next of kin to deceased and as such I requested your
information above as this documents will be documented at the probate
office here in London so as to give this venture legal backing and
authenticity. Upon receipt of this information the lawyer would go
ahead and procure this documents and as soon as we have secured the
documents, I will help you make official application to my bank on the
strength of the documents that the funds should be released to you as
the bona-fide next of kin to the deceased Immediately the document is
ready and approved by my bank, it will be forwarded to the bank that
is presently with the funds to release the funds to you as the
bonafide next of kin, You need not to worry as I would use my
position to facilitate the approval and the subsequent release of the
funds to you. I am now in contact with a foreign online bank; I now
intend that you open an account in your name in this foreign bank. The
money would be transferred to your account which you will open in the
bank for both of us, this is the best way, I have found, it will
protect us from my bank. I want us to enjoy this money in peace when
we conclude, so you should listen to my instructions and follow them
religiously. Also You have to know that I cannot transfer this money
in my name as my bank will be aware that it is from me, this is where
I need you.


As result of this, you will have to open an account in the
corresponding bank. I will obtain a certificate of deposit from this
my bank, it will be issued in your name, this will make you the
bonafide owner of the funds. After this, the money will be banked
online for both of us. We can then instruct the bank to transfer our
various shares into our respective home bank accounts. I will also
perfect the documentations with the assistance of my attorney to give
the transaction the legal right.


I wish to inform you that should you contact me via official channels;
I will deny knowing you and about this project. I repeat, I do not
want you contacting me through my official phone lines nor do I want
you contacting me through my official email account. Contact me only
through the numbers I will provide for you and also through this email
address. I do not want any direct link between you and me. My official
lines are not secure lines as they are periodically monitored to
assess our level of customer care in line with our Total Quality
Management Policy. Please observe this instruction religiously.


Looking forward to a good business relationship with you and hoping to
hear from you soonest my good friend.


Kind Regards,

Garry.


This is the message i recieved a few days ago. I really hope someone is in the mood to help me scambait these people before I lose them. Id love to fly somewhere and meet them film them and let the police arrest them.
Ill always be grateful for any help anyone can give me to entertain myself.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You want to "meet them film them and let the police arrest them"? Good luck with that.

BTW, the best way to bait them is to 1. Learn to bait safe and 2. get a mentor.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You realize these people are criminals right?

Flying out to meet them would probably be high on the list of things you should stay away from

Have you tried reading some of the introductory posts in Eater U? They really help create a solid foundation for baiting. As for being in a rish, there are plenty of scammers, so no need to worry there:)

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks you two!
Of course I was kidding about being able to meet them in person and film them would be almost impossible but Ive seen it so often on italian tv with all kinda scammers being chased.


So how to best scam this type of scammer? Please gimme detailed instructions so I can do it best since Im completely inexperienced in scambaiting!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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I really hope someone is in the mood to help me scambait these people before I lose them. Id love to fly somewhere and meet them film them and let the police arrest them.
Ill always be grateful for any help anyone can give me to entertain myself.


Read the stickies, attend the university, grab a mentor oh and BAIT SAFELY.

If you 'lose' a lad, there are plenty of others hanging around usually found in the surplus dept, or other places of dubious nature.

If you fly to meet a lad, chances are fairly good that you will end up at least robbed, if not stabbed, shot, kidnapped or even killed with a burning tire round your neck. All of the above has happened before.

Film them, OK I am going to meet a criminal and I am going to film him/her in their own country-you did say you'd fly, So you get robbed for the camera and probably beaten for your trouble.

Let the police arrest them
-sadly most of the police don't care (or don't have the time/resources to care) and the very few that do, care more about the big cases rather then the I sent $500 to a scammer. That's before we get anywhere near the mention of official corruption in many countries.

Entertain yourself-pull up a chair, remove any fluids from the immediate area (soda, coffee etc) and start reading. Plenty of entertainment to be found all over the place.....

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I strongly recommend getting a mentor. You can sign up for one here. Here at 419eater, a 'mentor' is a dedicated scambaiter, that helps you with advice, tips and tricks, and generally guiding you through the do's and dont's of scambaiting. It's free, it's great, and the mentors are nice, friendly people with vast baiting experience and a slight touch of awesome. Smile

Reading the forum is always a good thing - that's where you find all the best tricks. 419eater is basically a hub for accumulated scambaiting experience, and as such, we are sitting on a gold mine here. Wink

Regarding your particular scammer, rushing will only accomplish one thing: That the bait will end all too soon. I always recommend sending 1-3, ultra short emails a week, preferrably less. The idea here is to get time to pass. Before you know it, you and the lad will have a 2-3 month history - and the lad will begin to trust you more and believe that you are a real person he can rob. Wink Basically, turning lad methods on themselves. Wink So if I were you, I would start out by replying:

"This looks very interesting, but can you explain the details a bit better? I am somewhat confused".

Then continue to reply in short messages, but slowly - and preferrably asking a new question in each mail. ("Are you sure I am the right person?", "Is this risky free?", "but why me, of all people?" etc.). Right now, the lad is following a script - that means, that he's not typing up the replies he sends you, those are all premade, and he is probably not even reading what you send him. So the first trick is to get him off script, and in my experience, the best way to do that is how I just described.

Good luck, and welcome to 419Eater!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I would never meet anyone from the internet without being 100% safe about it and someone keeping an eye on me! I would never just follow the scammers anywhere without taking every imaginable precaution! Perhaps even swats monitoring my every move.

Im smart enough about it.
But just to let you know the first message I got was short and in german about sharing 18mil but I replied back in english and I guess my message was forwared to someone else who claims to be Garry and has given me all this prewritten info
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dorfman wrote:
I would never meet anyone from the internet without being 100% safe about it and someone keeping an eye on me! I would never just follow the scammers anywhere without taking every imaginable precaution! Perhaps even swats monitoring my every move.


Again, it is NOT something we condone here at Eater. I am sure that a moderator will drop by eventually, and tell you the same. Not posting about such things at all is best, and reduces the need for moderator locked threads. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Are you a law enforcement officer? Have you been trained to interact with criminals? Do you have some form of government approval backing this interaction?

If you can not answer yes to ALL of those questions then you obviously do not know what you are getting into.

I'm going to say this as politely as I can.

Don't waste our mentor's time if you can't understand the basic concept of baiting safely. The very fact that you can entertain the ideas that you have posted prove to me that you don't understand what we do here.

I am not trying to run you off. I am trying to remind you that real life isn't a movie.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

[b]Greetings,

Thanks for your response to my previous email and very sorry for the
unconventional way I have made this contact with you. My name is G.M,
I am a staff and Investment Director at Schroders Asset Management
Company (England). I am also the fund manager for both the UK Mid Cap
Growth Fund and the UK Opportunities Fund. I am writing this mail in
confidence believing that it is the wish of God to meet with you since
we have not met before, I got your e-mail address from our local
yellow page with regard to your profile, after searching all the job
site, matrimony and religious site looking for a trust worthy person
and I decided to contact you because you and the deceased customer has
the same surname.

History of my transaction: I am emailing you about a deposit a
deceased customer left without a recognized heir to the sum of
Eighteen Million Dollars Only. The late customer has a personal
account with us and he made a deposit to the sum of US$18,000,000.00
in our branch. I would humbly appeal that you preserve the subjects of
this email personal and reverence the truthfulness of the information
you come by as a result of this email. I have been in charge of this
department for years and to the best of my knowledge, I have
discharged my duties with equity and fairness.

In 2007, the subject matter; came to our bank to engage in business
discussions with our private banking division. He informed us that he
had a financial portfolio which he wished to have us turn over
(invest) on his behalf. I was the officer assigned to his case, I made
numerous suggestions in line with my duties as the de-facto chief
operations officer of the private banking sector, especially given the
volume of funds he wished to put into our bank. We met on numerous
occasions prior to any investments being placed. I encouraged him to
consider various rowth funds with prime ratings. The favoured route in
my advice to customers is to start by assessing data on 6000
traditional stocks and bond managers and 2000 managers of alternative
investments. Based on my advice, we spun the money around various
opportunities and made attractive margins for our first months of
operation, the accrued profit and interest stood at this point at over
Ten Million
United States Dollars, this margin was not the full potential of the
fund but he desired low risk guaranteed returns on investments. This
bank also gives the choice to depositors of having their mail sent to
them or held at the bank itself, ensuring that there are no traces of
the account and as I said, rarely do they nominate next of kin.
Private banking clients apart from not nominating next of kin also
usually in most cases leave wills in our care, in this case; the
deceased died without a testate. In line with our internal processes
for account holders who have passed away, we instituted our own
investigations in good faith to determine who should have right to
claim the estate. This investigation has for the past months been
unfruitful.

We have scanned every continent and used our private investigation
affiliate companies to get to the root of the problem. It is this
investigation that resulted in my being furnished with your details as
a possible relative of the deceased. My official capacity dictates
that I am the only party to supervise the investigation and the only
party to receive the results of the investigation. What this means,
you being the last batch of names we have considered, is that our dear
late fellow died with no known or identifiable family member. This
leaves me as the only person with the full picture of what the
prevailing situation is in relation to the deposit and the late
beneficiary of the deposit. According to practice, This Board of
Directors will by the end of this financial year broadcast a request
for statements of claim to SAMC. Failing to receive viable claims they
will most probably revert the deposit back to SAMC. This will result
in the money entering
the SAMC accounting system and the portfolio will be out of my hands
and out of the private banking division.


This will not happen if I have my way. My proposal; you share the same
surname with our late client; I am prepared to place you in a position
to instruct SAMC to release the deposit to you as the closest
surviving relation. Upon receipt of the deposit, I am prepared to
share the money with you in half. That is: I will simply nominate you
as the next of kin and have them release the deposit to you. We share
the proceeds 50/50. I would have gone ahead to ask the funds be
released to me, but that would have drawn a straight line to me and my
involvement in claiming the deposit. But on the other hand, you with
the same very name as the original depositor would easily pass as the
beneficiary with right to claim. I assure you that I could have the
deposit released to you within a few days. I will simply inform the
bank of the final closing of the file relating to the deceased I will
then officially communicate with The Board of Directors and instruct
them to
release the deposit to you. With these two things: all is done.

I ask that if you find no interest in this project that you should
discard this mail. I ask that you do not be vindictive and
destructive. If my offer is of no appeal to you, delete this message
and forget I ever contacted you. Do not destroy my career because you
do not approve of my proposal. You may not know this but people like
me who have made tidy sums out of comparable situations run the whole
private banking sector. I am not a criminal and what I do, I do not
find against good conscience, this may be hard for you to understand,
but the dynamics of my industry dictates that I make this move. Such
opportunities only come ones' way once in a lifetime. I cannot let
this chance pass me by, for once I find myself in total control of my
destiny. These chances won’t pass me by. I ask that you do not destroy
my chance, if you will not work with me let me know and let me move on
with my life but do not destroy me. I am a family man and this is an
opportunity to provide them with new opportunities. There is a reward
for this project and it is a task well worth undertaking.


Please get back to me immediately for further communication


I await your response.


Regards,

Garry






I bet this Schroders Asset management company only exists in these fictional emails!

Are these scammers really are in england or are they most likely nigerian? Or do the inheritance scammers usually come from a specific country?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Schroeders really exists and has for over two hundred years.... http://www.schroders.com/

Are they really in England? Maybe there is plenty of them there, as well as a load of other countries, including most of Europe, North and South America, Eastern Europe, Russia, Asia and Australia.... pretty much everywhere. Just another reason why we bait safely.

I'd suggest a mentor might be helpful.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Gary,

First off, you have run into a bog-standard scammer-he's using the name of an established business to scam people. There's no rush, scammers wait until their victims are ready to pay.

More importantly, this seems to have come from your personal email account. In which case, the scammer has some of your real life information. If that's the case, the best advice I can give you is drop him immediately and block his emails. You do NOT want one of these criminals to have any of your personal information.We emphasize baiting safely for a reason.

If you would like to bait, set up a brand, shiny new email with none of your RL info, pick up a scammer from the Surplus forum and have at him! But be aware that scammers come from virtually anywhere in the world. You can't assume that a particular scam comes from a certain country.

If you are going to dive in, I strongly suggest you read the stickies before signing up for a mentor.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:10 am Reply with quoteBack to top

bobbybobby wrote:
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I really hope someone is in the mood to help me scambait these people before I lose them. Id love to fly somewhere and meet them film them and let the police arrest them.
Ill always be grateful for any help anyone can give me to entertain myself.


Read the stickies, attend the university, grab a mentor oh and BAIT SAFELY.

If you 'lose' a lad, there are plenty of others hanging around usually found in the surplus dept, or other places of dubious nature.

If you fly to meet a lad, chances are fairly good that you will end up at least robbed, if not stabbed, shot, kidnapped or even killed with a burning tire round your neck. All of the above has happened before.

Film them, OK I am going to meet a criminal and I am going to film him/her in their own country-you did say you'd fly, So you get robbed for the camera and probably beaten for your trouble.

Let the police arrest them
-sadly most of the police don't care (or don't have the time/resources to care) and the very few that do, care more about the big cases rather then the I sent $500 to a scammer. That's before we get anywhere near the mention of official corruption in many countries.

Entertain yourself-pull up a chair, remove any fluids from the immediate area (soda, coffee etc) and start reading. Plenty of entertainment to be found all over the place.....


1. if you lose him, set up a new mail account and rebait.

2. just tell him that you fly to him. that's sufficient.

3. search for a webcam (restaurant or so) and set up a meeting in front of it. lad shows up, and he is on video. search for the us-safari (atlanta lad, by juan freizwidatt). it featured extensive webcam-meetings.

4. sadly, the police in west africa just arrests for serious crimes, and they don't care about online crimes. but police officers over there are known to scare lads and demand a little... fee.

5. always a good advice, or use a waterproof keyboard.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Capone wrote:
You can't assume that a particular scam comes from a certain country.


And, may I add, the nationality of a given scammer is of little importance. What is interesting to us baiters, for various reasons, is location, not nationality.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^
Good advice.

Gary, please ignore anyone who suggests continuing your bait from your RL email. As I previously indicated, this is not safe. There's nothing wrong with starting over from a completely new address. In fact, I would bet the scammer won't even notice.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:16 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Capone wrote:
More importantly, this seems to have come from your personal email account.


I think you may have misread the OP, Capone. I checked the domain of the email address and it is a recently registered email only domain, so I don't think it is the OP's RL email address.

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^^^You might have misread Capone. I believe the reference might have been to this:

Dorfman wrote:
This is the message i recieved a few days ago.


Right now, the evidence suggests the communication is with the OP's personal email address.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ Ah, perhaps - I saw she'd removed the email address and was referring to the OP as "Gary".

Using your RL email address (even if it is one that you just use for registering on websites) is definitely not a good idea.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

you have twice misread me capone! this isnt my real life email and i got the first text in german by pure coincidence somewhere. And my name isnt garry but the scammer is presenting himself with that name! Garry with 2 r who would know. The bold text was all from scammers so It wouldnt confuse anyone reading my posts!

Hope you arent trying to scam a wannabe scam baiter!



Anyways the first ever email I got


Caswell Becky (US Stores) <[email protected]>
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Feb 10 at 5:32 AM

Es tut mir leid, Ihre Privatsphäre auf diese Weise zu stören. Ich suche Ihre Partnerschaft in $ 18.000.000,00 in unserer Branche zu erhalten. Antworten sofort für detaillierte Informationen. Grüße, Garry



in english thats
I'm sorry to disturb your privacy in this way. Seeking your partnership in $ 18,000,000.00 to get in our industry. Answers immediately for detailed information. Regards, Garry


so I replied

Yeah I would love to help you anyway I can! Is it true I will get some of the 18million dollars?

Ok tell me what I need to do and we can do buisness

James


james isnt my real name of course just used in this email! So when I saw this opportunity I watched a few entertaining videos on youtube on how to fool around with scammers and wanted to get involved myself. But Im completely inexperienced on how to properly scambait so I started looking for a site, stumbled across this one and decided to ask for tips. I understand its all written but wanted someone to reply and help me personally since Im a complete novice!


Capone Im sure you know the quote by Alfonso you can get more with a gun pointed at someone's face and a nice word then a nice word alone! Unfortunately its true! and thats probably how these criminals reason.

I know I could never mess around with real criminals to actually meet them and try to arrest them but I would be brave to volunteer under heavy surveillance by tv and police protecting me.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Its true I didnt have to wait for long in fact only a few hours until garry replied me even though before he asked me to answer him quickly but I havent since sunday!

Thats when I began looking for someone to help me fool scammers since I saw so many fun videos on youtube and finally found your site!

But is there anybody that still really falls for these types of scam? I guess you always find a turkey that falls for such dumb baites. I did recieve nigerian scam letters some 13 years ago frequently but I usually just ignored them or told them to piss off with these retarded frauds.

Anyway here is the latest letter I recieved:



Hello ,

Thanks for the response. Having indicated your interest in this
transaction, it might interest you to know that as the accounting
officer to the deceased, I was the one that filled the forms that was
used to open the deceased account. When it got to the column for next
of kin he told me to leave it blank till a later date which he never
provided until his demise hence this transaction. What I intend to do
is to go to the files and records as contained in the database of my
bank, which I have access to get out the form that was to open the
account fill your info in the column for next of kin then restore in
the database before I instruct you on how to file application for
claims through the claims department. Please be informed that at this
stage every person concerned with the processing of the claims will be
of the perception that you are a bonafide next of kin, the original
nature of this transaction as an organized deal will be known to you
and i alone. It will be established in our records here that you are
the bonafide next of kin hereby giving it all legality required.

In light of the above, I will need you to provide me with a valid
identification of your self, so as to enable me fill in your info in
the column for next of kin before instructing you on how to file
application for claims through the claims department. I quite
understand your skepticism and resentment I believe that this is due
to the medium with which I contacted you any way i believe that by the
time I unfold the modalities set aside in actualizing this transaction
to you, you will comprehend better.We would work together as partners
according to my instructions and enjoy the proceeds with absolute
peace of mind as this is rest-assured based on the fact that this a
100% risk-free. Shall inform you in due course as this is part of the
modalities, you could still back out after i unfold the modalities to
you if you are not satisfied with the acquaintance established and
modalities set aside for this deal. Like 10 to 14 banking days we will
conclude this transaction there are no risk as I personally would not
want to be looking over my shoulders the rest of my life, I would
rather have peace and remain without money.

It means that we have to be faithful and truthful to each other and we
shall make this deal successful as the original nature of this
transaction as an organized deal will be known to you and I only,
every other person involved with processing the inheritance will be of
the perception that this is a legitimate claim devoid of any
inconsistencies. For now the only guarantee I have is my WORD which
is my BOND as i would not spend my time, money and emotions if this
weren't real. That shall be handled as at when due based on
understanding between you and I. This shall never be the situation;
you will understand better when i let you into the full picture.

Furthermore you will have to convince me of your express capability to
handle this deal, by way of establishing your honesty and transparency
to me. Hoping you will not let me down.The account you are going to
open is going to be in your name as you alone will have access to it
so you are the one that will assure me that you will have half of the
funds which is my share sent to me as soon as this funds gets into
your person account you shall open in your name, If you know for sure
that your already existing account can receive this funds without any
problem better other wise offshore account remains a perfect solution.

I want to remind you that being a part of this transaction would only
be at your free will,I cannot impose this on you,it is your choice to
agree or disagree, but at lease I deserve the privilege of knowing
your decision.Ensure that you keep this transaction confidential and
do not disclose to anyone because of the confidentiality nature of
this transaction and my work.

Hoping this gives you peace of mind, please send nothing yet to my
bank and kindly send me your valid identity.

I expect your response ASAP.

Regards,
Garry



Well any suggestions fellow scambaiters? Should I ask Schroders on what to do with him or let them maybe threaten him a bit for posing as a member of their organisation? Probably they have no time to lose anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dorfman wrote:
But is there anybody that still really falls for these types of scam? I guess you always find a turkey that falls for such dumb baites. I did recieve nigerian scam letters some 13 years ago frequently but I usually just ignored them or told them to piss off with these retarded frauds.


We don't refer to scam victims as "turkeys" - many people targeted are from 3rd world countries where English is a second language at best, education standard are lower than the US, Europe, etc and there is a lack of familiarity with such scams due to fairly recent access to the net or they may be from a developed country, but elderly or have health issues that affect their judgement.

Also, while this site and the AFF scams in general, are named after a section of the Nigerian criminal code, don't make the mistake of assuming that the emails are all Nigerian in origin.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Dorfman,

Welcome to eater!

There is already some good advice in previous posts.
For now I suggest you to slow down a bit. If the lad says ASAP, you can read that as "one of these days" Wink
Ask a lot of questions. One at the time. Reply once a day. If you're going to be a pain in the ass from start, there is a big chance you will lose the lad very quickly.

In the meanwhile you can do some reading at the forum. There are plenty examples and ideas to find in other baits and articles.

A good one to start: https://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=261698

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dorfman wrote:
Well any suggestions fellow scambaiters?


Yes:

TheDane wrote:
I always recommend sending 1-3, ultra short emails a week, preferrably less


Sloooow down. Wait 1-2 days before you reply. You are rushing way too much. Time is working for you. The slower you bait, the more time will pass, and time is your friend. In half a year, the lad will think he's known you for a looong time, and will be more prone to accept what you say and agree with your suggestions - and THAT'S when you can begin to drag him around by his nose. Furthermore, think of it this way: The lads HATE it when you take your sweet time replying. Twisted Evil

There are of course times where fast replies and periods of more intensive baiting is appropriate, for instance up to and during a safari, but for now, my suggestion to you is to be patient - and to reply slowly.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Dorfman,

I read your initial postings-it wasn't at all clear that you were baiting safely. Further, we don't endorse baiting at the point of a gun-the idea is to fool the lad into believing you are a compliant victim. Victims are not "turkeys" but ordinary people like you and I-all it takes is the right scam.

Read the stickies. And if you would like to continue, I strongly suggest that you apply for a mentor.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

dont you all think anyone with a bit of brain would know if it sound too good to be true its an obvious scam? one probably has to know this world is full of scams wherever you are from!


Should I try to get Schroders involved? Or just ask them how to deal with one misusing their name?


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