Lyudmila

By joining our community you will have the ability to post topics and access other forums reserved for members. Registration is quick, simple and absolutely free. Join our community today by clicking here.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

This Vlad sent a message to my baiter account a few days ago. I can find no mail that I sent to this one. I have seen this first picture in the Surplus before but that entry is gone now.

Edits for IP info all the way down.

(smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com. [76.13.13.46])

client-ip=76.13.13.46;
Received: from [192.168.1.100]
([email protected] with plain)

Quote:

Derrick, Sorry for the long answer...

[email protected] to me

show details Nov 24 (2 days ago)

Hello Derrick,
Thank you so much for your reply. I was surprised and happy to
hear back from you.
Sorry for the delay. I don’t often use this e-mail address.
I accidentally decided to check my mail box and was happily surprised
to see your letter. I have another e-mail address and I use it to
correspond with my friends. So please, write me on this e-mail address
[email protected]. I will send you a detailed letter
from this address so you know it.
Well, I do hope that you’ll forgive me and write me back very soon.
I would like to get to know you better. I am sure there is so much
interesting we can find about each other.
I promised to send you my picture and so here I am attaching my picture.
I will tell you more about myself in my next letter and will send it
from my main,
I will be waiting impatiently for your reply.
Have a good day!
Take care.

P.S. If you liked my picture and you are interested, please, write me soon.
And if you are interested , please, don’t forget to send letters on this
e-mail address - [email protected].
This is my main mail address.

Quote:

Thank you for your reply. I love the picture but I am not sure you meant this for me. I am older and nowhere near as pretty as you. I will send my picture and please don't make fun of me. I will let you decide if this goes any further.

Received: from [192.168.1.100]
([email protected] with plain)

Quote:

Derrick, it's me again...

Lyudmila to me

show details Nov 24 (1 day ago)

Hello Derrick!
This is me again.
This is my main email, write here.
As I promised I am going to tell you more about myself now.
My name is Lyudmila.
I am 28 years old.
I have never been married and I have no children.
My height is 5.4(166cm) and my weigh is 110(51kg). You can have an
impression about it from my picture.
I am a very affectionate person. I believe in a life full of
physical, emotional and spiritual happiness. And I want to share
such a life with a person who wants the same.
I love the outdoors, spending time at home with a beloved person.
I love nature, water, picnics.
But I don’t do this as often as I would like it to be as I don’t
have the one who could share it with me.
I am honestly ready to open my heart to a person who could
really appreciate this.
I work as a shop-assistant and do sell clothes for women (skirts,
trousers, blouses ). I really like my job. It is great when you
can help someone to look more beautiful and I like to be around
people.
I live in Russia. The city is called Tomsk. If you look at the
map, you will find it close to the center, in the beginning of
Sibiria. but somewhere I am going to get a student
visa and I am going to come to your country.
I thought a lot about it and had come to such decision.
I love Russia but I do really want to move to a more stable
country. The life is very complicated here. I know it will not
be easy in a foreign country. But I am sure I can do much more
in your country. I am a hard-working person and I am not afraid
of difficulties, so with the opportunities that your country
gives I can do more than I do here.
I already have some experience living and working in a foreign
country. Some years ago I worked in Australia and I should say
I liked it very much. So I know what is waiting for me and I
don’t want to waste time. And I decided to try and find a
person I could rely on, the one who will be with me in joy
and sorrows. We all work a lot now and it takes so much time
that we miss the most important in this life – love relations
and family.
Living in Australia I had relations with a man. But I had to
go back to my country as my visa was over. He didn’t want to
wait for me any longer. It was too difficult for him. It was
a very hard period for me but I could handle it. And now I
am ready to fall in love and to have new relations. I tried
to have correspondence with foreigners. But as soon as they
get to know I was from Russia they disappeared. They thought
I was a scammer. I hope that you are not scared that I am
from Russia.
I want you to understand, I am not a scammer. I don’t need
money from you. I heard much about it and I really feel sorry
for women who are true and want to find their happiness.
All this is so wrong as there are so many people who really
want to find their second halves. And internet is a very good
opportunity for this.
I hope that you like my pictures. I am not a model, of course.
I am just an average Russian girl who is truly seeking her love...
I hope that you are interested in me and I will hear back from
you. And perhaps, in the future we will have an opportunity to
meet. I go to the internet cafe 3 times a week. That is why
I am going to write to you in a day.
Well, I hope that now you understand me better and I will be
waiting impatiently for your reply.
Lyudmila.

Pix removed

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

What is going on here? I have received 2 of these mails in a totally different account now. The last one has a new name and address with all of these pictures in it. WTF? This just landed in my Oriental mans account with all 4 pictures. The lovess letter is there also.

This is from lovess

Quote:

Olga [email protected] to me

show details Nov 24 (1 day ago)

Hello Derrick!
This is me again.
This is my main email, write here.
As I promised I am going to tell you more about myself now.
My name is Olga.
I am 28 years old.
I have never been married and I have no children.
My height is 5.4(166cm) and my weigh is 110(51kg). You can have an
impression about it from my picture.
I am a very affectionate person. I believe in a life full of
physical, emotional and spiritual happiness. And I want to share
such a life with a person who wants the same.
I love the outdoors, spending time at home with a beloved person.
I love nature, water, picnics.
But I don’t do this as often as I would like it to be as I don’t
have the one who could share it with me.
I am honestly ready to open my heart to a person who could
really appreciate this.
I work as a shop-assistant and do sell clothes for women (skirts,
trousers, blouses ). I really like my job. It is great when you
can help someone to look more beautiful and I like to be around
people.
I live in Russia. The city is called Tomsk. If you look at the
map, you will find it close to the center, in the beginning of
Sibiria. but somewhere I am going to get a student
visa and I am going to come to your country.
I thought a lot about it and had come to such decision.
I love Russia but I do really want to move to a more stable
country. The life is very complicated here. I know it will not
be easy in a foreign country. But I am sure I can do much more
in your country. I am a hard-working person and I am not afraid
of difficulties, so with the opportunities that your country
gives I can do more than I do here.
I already have some experience living and working in a foreign
country. Some years ago I worked in Australia and I should say
I liked it very much. So I know what is waiting for me and I
don’t want to waste time. And I decided to try and find a
person I could rely on, the one who will be with me in joy
and sorrows. We all work a lot now and it takes so much time
that we miss the most important in this life – love relations
and family.
Living in Australia I had relations with a man. But I had to
go back to my country as my visa was over. He didn’t want to
wait for me any longer. It was too difficult for him. It was
a very hard period for me but I could handle it. And now I
am ready to fall in love and to have new relations. I tried
to have correspondence with foreigners. But as soon as they
get to know I was from Russia they disappeared. They thought
I was a scammer. I hope that you are not scared that I am
from Russia.
I want you to understand, I am not a scammer. I don’t need
money from you. I heard much about it and I really feel sorry
for women who are true and want to find their happiness.
All this is so wrong as there are so many people who really
want to find their second halves. And internet is a very good
opportunity for this.
I hope that you like my pictures. I am not a model, of course.
I am just an average Russian girl who is truly seeking her love...
I hope that you are interested in me and I will hear back from
you. And perhaps, in the future we will have an opportunity to
meet. I go to the internet cafe 3 times a week. That is why
I am going to write to you in a day.
Well, I hope that now you understand me better and I will be
waiting impatiently for your reply.
Olga.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

I think this girl is blind!

Quote:

I am very glad to hear from you.

Lyudmila [email protected] to me

show details 4:30 PM (15 hours ago)

Hello again Derrick.
Thank you so much for sending me your picture.
I am very glad to hear from you. Thank you for paying attention
and for writing back. I am going to write to you 3 times
a week so we could get to know each other better.
You can call me Kisa. My name is Lyudmila,
But all my friends call me Kisa. it is my nickname...
I am going to tell you a little bit more about my lifestyle.
My apartment is rather small but very cozy. It is very
expensive here to rent an apartment. So this is what I can
afford to myself now – one room, no phone and a small kitchen.
I have a cell phone(+7-***-153-****)but I don’t think I am able
to call to other countries. Therefore write letters to me here.
But my friends say it is very comfortable. It is difficult
to live alone and do all by myself. My parents live in another
city. I moved from there when I was 17. And I don’t see them
often. We are not in very good relations with them. But any
time they need my help, I will come and do what I can for them.
Though I am 28 y.o. I am ready to settle down, to have family,
to give all my time to my husband. I think that every person
needs a place he could come and feel easy and comfortable.
This is what I am looking for and what I need. I don’t want
to be lonely any more. I was disappointed several times. And
I don’t trust men here any more. By the way, how it happened
that you still haven’t found your second half? You are a very
interesting person and a good man. And I am sure you break hearts.
You already know that I am trying to get a student visa to
your country. And it could be a very good opportunity for
us to meet if we like each other through letters and find
that we match each other. The situation in our country is
very uncomfortable now. With our Minister Putin we have no
democracy. And our new president Medvedev same as Putin.
There are no good laws; we live like it was during
the Soviet times. And I don’t like it at all. Other countries
are developing fast. But we are still on the same level as
it was many years ago. And consequences of an economic crisis
have very painfully struck Russia. I liked living in Australia.
It is a big and well developed country with lots of opportunities
for good life. I lived there for 1,2 years. But unfortunately,
I had to go back because of my visa. I was there in 2000y.
And it was a very good time for me. I enjoyed it.
I worked as a nurse with children. And I liked the family
I lived in very much. They are good people and they helped
the first time a lot. My language skill was not good and
they helped me to speak and understand it better. My living
there helped to write and speak English fluently. So there
will be no problems with our communication.
I told youalready in my previous letter that a man I had
there just left me and I don’t want to anything to remind
me about this again.
I am going to tell you about interests and hobbies in
my next letter. I have to stop here as the time in the internet
cafe is limited. I don’t have my personal computer at home
as most people in Russia do.
Well, I will better stop here for now.
Lyudmila.
P.S.
I will try to send you my pics with each letter.
I hope you don't mind?

Once again I added my first letter in bottom because
I am not sure did you get it or not.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

Quote:

Lyudmila [email protected] to me

show details 7:51 PM (12 hours ago)

Hi Derrick,
It’s me again.
I am very glad to see your reply.
I understand that it's difficult to believe woman via internet.
Therefore I want to prove I am real. I made a pic for you
yesterday. This is a pic of me with Tomsk's newspaper.
There is a date. That will prove to you I am real...
I have some time and I decided to tell you more about myself.
I really like you and I would like to know you well. And I
want you to understand me better too, to know how I live,
what I do in my spare time.
Well, I like cooking very much. This is one of the things
that make me relax and forget about all the bad things that
happen during the day. Salads, different soups, pasta,
souses, cakes and pies– it is just a short list of what
I cook. I like very much to try new things. It is always nice
to go to a good restaurant or to a nice pizza place, cafe.
I do it seldom, usually it happens when we celebrate someone’s
birthday.
I like trying new cuisine and trying to guess what are the
ingredients.
What’s favorite dish?
I like bowling and billiard. do you like bowling? or billiard?
What’s is your favorite colour? Mine is red and black.
I have no pets. I like animals a lot. Also I like watching
programmes on TV about animals. I do love cats and dogs and horse.
Watching movies is one of my adorable things to do, especially
at the weekend. I like comedies and melodramas.
What’s favorite types movie do you like?
It is always so nice to rent some movie, to cook something
tasty or something sweet, to invite someone of my friends and
enjoy the time together. It is especially nice doing it in the
cold winter evening with a warm blanket and a cup of hot tea
or coffee.
I do not smoke, but sometimes I can drink a little wine (red) or beer.
I always try to find time to read something. The last book
I’ve read was “Loneliness in the internet” by Vishnevskiy.
I liked it very much though it is sad but it shows the true life
of people. I also like to read classical things by Tolstoy,
Bernard Show, Dostoevskiy and others.
I regularly go into aerobics. And I also I go twice a week to
the swimming-pool. It helps me to stay in a good shape and to
be healthy.
I try to lead a healthy life style, don’t have any bad habbits.
Music helps me to be a in good spirit. I like ballads very much
though sometimes I can listen to a fast music. I like Lara Fabian
very much and Darren Hayes.
I like to have long walks in parks.
I like to drive on a bicycle.
I have no it, but often take for rent bicycle.
What about you? What are your prefers? Tell me, please, more
about you and your interests.
I have important question for you. Do you know any colleges and
universities close to your place? I could check them in advance and
enter then when I go to your country.
I would like studies near to you and meet you often.
I wish to arrive to your country. I wish to receive the visa next month.
I have already started to collect documents necessary for a trip.
I wish to study and live near with you, that we could meet.
I wish to study as the medical worker or the bookkeeper.
I like both trades. But I can choose and any other branch of formation.
Well, I have to close here. But will be waiting very much for
your reply.
Lyudmila.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

Here are a few pictures of this one.

Pix removed

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:32 pm

Hey NV

I've been going back and forth with"Kisa" for about 2 weeks now. Trying to get off script, but no luck so far...

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

We should keep this part of the Q&A on the PM side, but is it using the same address with you? I have another address for this one also. The mail for my main character was bouncing to another bait account with a different address.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

Does this look realistic? The date in question seems to stand out but I don't know what a paper there would look like. Now that I see it full size I see some blurry edges on her right side also.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

Quote:

Lyudmila [email protected] to me

show details 6:39 PM (12 hours ago)

Hello Derrick,
I am glad, to receive your answer.
Unfortunately, I can’t talk to you on-line, as I write letters
to you from the internet cafe and the time is limited there.
I wish I could chat with you but right now it is just impossible
as I don’t have a personal PC.
But I shall continue to send you email letters and pics.
I am going to send you my address here. As I already told you
I rent my apartment and I don’t have a phone there. But here
is my address, in case you decide to send me a card or a
hand-written letter: -

to Lyudmila,
Number apartment: - 16,
Name street - Trudovaya 4,
City - Tomsk,
Region (state) - Tomskaya oblast,
Zip code - 634024,
Country - Russia

Yes, I am going to come to your country. Somewhere
in a month. I am going to enter the University
or college. I am doing all the paperwork for this now. That's
why I asked you about the colleges or Universities close to
your place. So I could study and meet with you there.
I shall live in campus.
Do you want it? You want that I lived near to you in your district?
Do not forget to send me your photos.
As soon as I finish this letter I will go and have a short walk.
You know walking is one of the things I adore. It is so nice to
have a long walk and then find some small cafe and get a cup
of coffee there. I don’t have a car and I don’t really want to
have it right now. And it is too expensive for me. I have no money
to buy a car. I have never tried to drive a car and I have no license.
Walking is much more pleasant. Unfortunately, most of the times
I have to walk alone. All my friends are married and they try
to spend more time with their families. I also like to go to the
movie a lot. But do it rather seldom. Usually I go there with my
friends, but they don’t do this often. They try to spend more
time with their husbands and children. As I don’t have children
and a husband, I try not to bother them often. Sometimes I feel
rather lonely but I try not to think of this often.
Any way, my city is too beautiful not to walk. My city is very
beautiful. There are so many places of culture there, lots of
monuments. It is very green. It is especially beautiful in
spring and in summer time when everything is awaken after
the winter.
There are also many parks and we have one boulevard with fountains.
And it is gorgeous.
Also we have some really beautiful churches. I am Christian
but I am not really religious. I have my own faith inside.
And I go to the church but do it seldom. I am not fanatic
about this.
I like nature very much and it is always a please to go somewhere
to the country-side and to spend a day there. I like picnics,
camping a lot. It is great to spend a day on the fresh air,
especially when you are with friends or family. I try to enjoy
it every time we do it but sometimes I feel very sad as I miss
not having my second half near.
Well, I am not going to be sad, as I am sure everything will
be fine. Please, tell me about your city? What is it?
What’s interesting there?
Lyudmila.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

Quote:

Lyudmila [email protected] to me

show details 5:18 PM (14 hours ago)

Dear Derrick!
Do you like my cooking? (on pics).
I have friend Vika. She is close friend. She makes all my pics.
She likes to photographe me. It's her hobby. I like to pose her.
I decided to come to the Internet cafe again to write you.
I already spoke you - I shall arrive to you in a month.
I still choose college in which I shall go to study.
I shall inform you the name when I shall know.
I shall know all the information in a week.
I am going from the post office. I decided to send my parents
a letter. As I already told you I am not really in good relations
with them. But any way, they are my parents and I love them.
I also have a brother and he is younger than me and they give him
all the love they have. They always loved him more than me and didn’t
pay much attention to me. My mum wanted to have a son very much and
she couldn’t get pregnant for a long time and she was very happy
when she got to know she was going to have a son. Of course,
it hurts to know that they love him a lot and are not very
interested in my life. But if they are happy, I am glad for them.
When I have returned from Australia, I entered the Pedagogical
Institute and studied for an educator. I worked as an educator
in the kindergarten as soon as I finished it. Though I like children
a lot, the salary was too small to continue working there. You
know it is rather difficult to live alone when you don’t have
any help from anyone. That’s why I decided to try and find
another job.
I had relations with men in my life. But I can’t depend on a man.
When I love I give all of myself to this person.
Unfortunately, men can’t always appreciate this. I like sex but
I think that when you are in relations with someone you should
be faithful and do not betray the one who lives with you.
Unfortunately, men here want to have everything, a faithful wife
and another woman as a lover. I am a very devoted and faithful
person and this I can’t accept. Hope you understand me.
Sex is very good but I accept it only with the person that
I love. I am not a virgin but at the same time I am not a slut.
My last relations were 2 years ago. Unfortunately, it didn’t
work out as he was too busy spending good time with his friends
all the time and he almost paid no attention to me. I was just
like a beautiful thing for him and nothing more. Since that time
I had no relations with other men.
Well, it is not really comfortable to talk about sex right now.
You know that I write from the internet cafe and there are
lots of people around me. And also I don’t know you too good
yet to discuss this topic.
I have to go now. People are coming and coming to the internet
cafe and you know my time is limited (15min). Internet cafe is a
place where everyone can come and use a computer there. We have to
pay for such a service. It is not a library where you can use
computers free of charge. When I lived in Australia I often
went to the library and could use computer there as long as
I needed. But here the time is limited as there are too many
people who need to use them. Please, tell me about your family.
What relations do you have with them?
Enjoy you day!!!
All the best to you.
Lyudmila.
P.S. I asked you in my previous letter to send me your address.
I want to send you a card and my picture. Or perhaps, I will
send you a hand written letter.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

Quote:

Lyudmila [email protected] to me

show details Dec 7 (3 days ago)

Hello Derrick,
I am so glad I have you in my life and I have an opportunity
to come to the Internet cafe and talk to you...
I am not really in a good spirit today.
I had a very bad conflict at work. Some people here in Russia
think that if they have lots of money they can do and say
everything they want. I had a conflict with one very rich woman
at work. She didn’t like the quality of the clothes. And was
so rude with me. But I am just a shop-assistant. I am not the
owner and I just sell things.
Sometimes I feel that I am very tired from my life in Russia.
I have nothing. I rent a very small apartment and can’t afford
anything better. I get a very small salary and prices increase
here every year. But salaries are still the same. I was shocked
when I get to the store to buy some food yesterday. They
increased prices again for milk products. Milk costs about one
US dollar which is too much. For-example, my salary is 120 US
dollars a month. And a half of it I pay for the apartment.
And what is left I spend for food.
Therefore I wish to leave to live in other country.
Therefore I save money for a trip.
I am just tired from a hard life here. And I want to move to
a foreign country. I want to get another education, to find
a good job there. That is why I am trying to get a student visa.
I shall study and work. I shall work to pay training and my life there.
I haven't decided yet what University I am going to come to.
I am still searching information. I would like it to be close to
you. I am doing the paperwork now. And as they told me my
visa would be ready in a month. But I don't know
the exact dates. It is just the way things are done here. As soon
as I know everything, I will let you know.
I want to have a more stable life for me and my future family.
And what is more important I want have a strong man near me
and to have a comfortable life for us. So I am trying to save
money any way I can for my trip and studies.
Please, forgive me for writing this to you. But I need to talk
to you. It is sometimes so hard to be just by myself. And
sometimes I need a strong shoulder and a friend to cry and to
get an advice.
I know that you are a very understanding person. So, please,
try to understand me. You are my friend and I trust you.
Now I shall go to a bathroom. I like to lay in bathing with foam.
It would be great to take a bath together. It is very
relaxing. And I think it is rather romantic.
You want it with me?
PLease,let me know what you think of this.
Write me your thoughts and your dreams.
Write a replay to me. Your letter will make me glad.
I will wait with hope.
Lyudmila.

Quote:

Lyudmila [email protected] to me

show details Dec 9 (1 day ago)

Hi dear Derrick,
In the first lines of this message I want to apologise for
complaining in my previous letter.
I don’t really want to complain and I don’t want to talk about
money any more. This was the first and the last time I did it.
I was just in a very bad spiring while writing my last letter
to you.
Sometimes we have bad periods in life and we need a strong shoulder
of a friend. I hope that you let me think you are my friend. And
I trust you that is why I decided to share my thoughts with you.
If you ever need to talk and if you ever need a friend, you can
always talk to me...
I have been thinking a lot about our meeting and I want to
meet with you a lot.
I am doing all the paperwork now to get a student visa. And
I do hope to get it. So if I get it I will be in your country.
and I think it is really a very good opportunity for
us to meet.
Please, tell me do you really want to see me? Do you want me
to visit you? Do you think that we could like each other and be
together in the future? Please, be honest with me and tell me
the truth.
I know that you are being tired with this question. But you
should understand my concerns. This is a very major decision to
move to the other country.
Perhaps, you wonder why I have such a big desire to move from
here. The reason is very simple. I have nobody and nothing to
stay here. I will miss my friends, but they already have their
families and they live with their own lives. I have parents but
you know we are not in good relations with them. And I think
they will not miss me.
I have no good job, have no stability. I have no family. It is
very hard to live in Russia and I don’t think it will ever be
better. And I am really tired from this life. That’s why I have
such a strong desire to get a student visa, to come there, to
get a new education, to settle down and already to have a family.
I hope that you understand me and that you support me in my decision.
Please, don’t be offended if I don’t always answer your questions.
I do it because my time in the internet cafe is limited. I don’t
always answer your questions because I am in a rush when I
answer your letters. I come here 3 times a week and have
only 15 minutes to write to you.
I wait your answer on my questions...
Lyudmila.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

There were 2 mails this morning.

Quote:

Lyudmila to me

show details 3:42 PM (15 hours ago)

Hello dear Derrick.
Today I am writting to you why I am alone. I am so tired that
males sees on me as on beautiful pic only but not on woman.
I think you like my spirit mainly not my appearance.
That's why I feel so easy myself with you. I have never felt
it with another males. I feel that you like my spirit firstly
and then appearance.
I want you to understand that I do really like you very much.
And I think that we have much in common and may be if meet we
will understand that we are a good match.
I am trying to get more information about the student visa
and I am doing a paperwork that is neccesary for it. There are
so many things that I should do for this but I think it is worth it.
I am going to come to your country. I am sure I will get my visa.
And I want to know will you meet me there? You are my friend
and you are a very close person to me already. And I like you
very much. I feel that there is something between us.
I hope you too have the same feelings. Of course, I can’t say
that I know you very well. But I feel that you are close to me.
I wish to know you better. I wonder how it can be to spend
time with you, to be with you, to cook together, to have dinner
together, to watch movies, to walk holding hands.
Letters are good, they help to understand people better. But
only meeting can show the real feelings. When you can touch, look
into each other’s eyes, it says a lot.
Please, tell me what you think of this. Would you like to meet me?
Any way you can be my friend. I will be in a foreign country and
I will need a person I can trust. And I trust you already and
I hope you do the same.
Please, think on this and let me know if you too want to meet
with me. I want it very much. I want to see you in real life,
to talk to you, to know you real but not only through the letters.
I think, I can trust you?
I already wrote to you, that all my pics is done by my friend Vika.
She says I have a beautiful body.
She is a very talanted photographer and I like to be her model.
She is my friend and is a very good girl. She usually takes pics
of me. We went to work together.
She works close to my place. She is a shop-assistant too.
Also today she has made 2 pics me and my passport.
I shall attach to you it in the following letter.
I will go now to get more information about visa.
I am going to get very important information.
I hope to hear good news.
I shall have information approximately in half an hour.
Lyudmila.

Quote:

Lyudmila to me

show details 4:12 PM (14 hours ago)

Hello my dear Derrick!
I have all the information about my visa now. And I will get
it without any problems. It will be so great to come to your
country at last and to see you. I even can’t believe this
could happen some day! Yes, perhaps, I act like a silly girl.
But I already dream of our meeting. I try to imagine how this
could be. How I will touch your hand, look into your eyes.
So now I have to do is to show them all the papers and to
pay for it.
But here I have one problem. I tried to save money. But I didn’t
expect I would have to pay for visa so soon. I thought it would
be later. So I don’t have enough money right now.
And I need your help in this if you really want to meet me.
I need 240 US dollars to pay for visa.
It will include medical insurance and everything that should
be there. Perhaps, you think why it is so expensive. Well,
sum of money includes visa, insurance, medical certificate
and many other papers.
I already have got my passport for going abroad. I have already
made it and have paid for it. But I didn’t think that they would
give visa so soon. And if I don’t pay for it now, I could have
problems in the future with getting visa. And I don’t want to
miss this chance. To prove you that I am real and I don’t lie
to you, I am going to attach you a copy of my passport.
So all I need to do now is to pay for visa. And then everything
will be done and all we have to do is wait for the time it is
issued. I have only 7-10 to pay for it and I will get it
without any problems.
This visa allows me to stay in your country for 3 months.
And to enter any university during 3 months. I can stay for
longer is I enter the university. But if I find a job I can
stay for the rest of the time in your country if I find a
job when I finish my education. But I also plan to work there
while I study. I don't want to depend on any one.
I will return back your 240 $. I am asking it to borrow.
I will work and return back it. I promise.
I’ve got to know that the best way for you to send money
through Western Union or Money gram. Please, don’t send me
money by regular mail. First, for sure I will not get it as
they steal money and things here. And also it will take long
time for the mail to come. And then I will miss my chance
with visa already.
So, please, use WU or Money gram for sending money. It is
an easy and quick way to get it.
You already know my address, I’ve sent it to you already.
And my full name is Lyudmila Gorbunova.
You better check WesternUnion.com or Moneygram.com to get
more information and also offices that are close to you.
Also there is an opportunity to send money from the credit
card. You just need to visit any office of WU or MG.
Or through the site westernunion.com

or moneygram.com

You even don’t need to leave your place to do it.
You can send money to any Western Union of Tomsk.
Please, understand my problem and send me 240 dollars.
So, please, let me know if you can help me in this.
Lyudmila.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

Quote:

I feel shame and offended.

Lyudmila [email protected] to me

show details 1:41 PM (17 hours ago)

Dear Derrick,
I do not know what to start my letter with. I feel shame and
offended. I just want to tell you that I am completely serious.
I have serious intentions to come to you and I am not going
to lie to you. I am not a silly little girl that plays games
to get money. Can’t you see it from my letters? I understand
that I should settle down already and that is why I am going to
move to another country. I know that in Russia I will not be
able to have a strong family and good job. I will be unhappy.
Here men don’t look at women as you do it. I have decided to
move long time ago. But couldn’t start doing it before I met
you. I didn’t want to go to your country without love. .
If I would pay for a visa quickly then I will have a visa on
December 23. And I can come to you fast. We could celebrate
New Year's Eve and Christmas Day together. But the problem is
I must pay for a visa very quickly. I have 7-10 days for it only...
I asked you to send me 240 USD. And I feel shame for this. But
I had no other choice then to ask you. The problem is that I have
only 7-10 days to pay for my visa. I didn’t realize I would need
the money so urgently. They took my papers and told me that I
wouldn’t pay in 7-10 days, they would just refuse me. And then
I will not have another chance to get visa to your country.
It was a shock for me . I thought that I could just leave the
papers and then pay for it before the trip. I think
I would be able to find the money by that time. But it was
beyond my forces/ I was shocked. I went to all my friends and
acquaintances. But all refused to me. They don’t give such a
big sum of money. I don’t ask my parents as they just don’t
give me money. When the last time I asked them to help me,
they refused me. They told me they had to support my
Brother and themselves. It hurt me. That is why I do not ask
them about anything any more and I almost don’t talk to them.
I asked my friend Vika to help me, but she had not such money.
She is married and has a child. And recently they have bought
an apartment and took it in credit. I also went to the bank
to check there. But they even didn’t listen to me. My salary
is only 120 USD. And they just can’t give me 240 USD. I had
tears. That is why I decided to ask you. And I feel shame
for this. I understand that it is very difficult for you to
trust the girl you have never seen before. Lots of Russian
women lied to foreigners. But I am not the same. I am real.
And I am not going to lie to you! I promise!
I know that 240 USD is not such a big sum of money in your
country. And I ask you this money not as A present to me,
I am going to give them back to you. As soon
as I come there and start working I will give you money
back. I told you I was going to study and to work. I will
be able to pay for my studies and for my accommodation.
I already told you I was going to get a student visa for
3 months. I will be able to come to your country and to
choose any university or college. I have 3 months to enter
it. And I can stay there as soon as I finish it. I am going
to choose the one that is close to you to be able to see you
often and perhaps we could get married.
You are really a very dear person to me and I want to be
with you and if you fall in love with me, we can get married
in the future. If we are together, we will build our future
together. I am not the one who wants to get everything in
at once. WE will work together and pay our bills. I understand
that family is for the rest of the life in joy and sorrows.
And I will understand if you decide not to have a family with
me, and we can just be friends. I will understand if you fall
in love with another woman. You can’t order your heart who to
love. I understand that you can like me through the letters
but in real life you may not fall in love with me.
I ask you one more time, please, understand me and send me 240USD.
I already told you that you have to send me money to my city.
You should use Western Union or Money Gram for this.
And use my address that I have sent to you.
You should send money to Tomsk for my name.
My full name - Lyudmila Gorbunova.
Lyudmila this is my name.
Gorbunova is my last name.
You can send money through MoneyGram:
Name: BANK URALSIB
Addreess: KIROV PROSPEKT 39, TOMSK, RUSSIA
or
Name: RUSS-BANK
Address: MIRA PROSPEKT 72A, TOMSK, RUSSIA
or
Name: BANK URALSIB
Address: FRUNZE PROSPEKT 11A, TOMSK, RUSSIA
Or
You can send money through Western Union:
KANSKY BANK
Batenkova Ploschad, 18
Tomsk, 634050, RUSSIA
or
MDM BANK
Govorova 46
Tomsk, 634057, RUSSIA
You don’t need anything else to send the money.
As soon as you send the money they will give you secret number
( MTCN or Reference Number ). And you’ll have to tell me it.
Or I will not be able to get the money without it.
As I already told you could get all the information and
the address of the office at the site -
westernunion.com

or
moneygram.com

.
I don’t know what else to say for you to send me money as
soon as possible as my time is limited.
Next time they will just refuse me in visa. I wrote you all
the truth in this letter. I am sincere and open with you.
I hope that you will understand me and decide to meet with
me. Please, believe me and send me 240 USD. And please, remember
that I have only 7-10 days to pay for it.
P.S. I was in such a rush that I forgot to take pics with
me. I will send them next time.
I promise you.
Lyudmila.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

I love the way some of these guys talk about how much the men there ogle them and they don't like it, yet they send these kind of pictures.

Pix removed

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

I have my first signed picture!

Quote:

My heart aches...

Lyudmila [email protected] to me

show details 4:23 PM (14 hours ago)

Hi dear Derrick!
Please hurry up to send money.
I have only 7 days to pay the visa.
I promise you! That if you will send money we can meet New Year
and Christmas together. I shall have time to receive the visa.
I should pay it only. I shall be your main gift for New Year
and Christmas!!!
May be pic which I add today prove to you that I am real.
I made it yesterday to prove to you that I am real. Hope
you remember my nick name? (Kisa). I have written about
it in my second letter to you. My friends call me Kisa.
I think that you have concerns about me real.
I do not lie to you. I am going to get money in WU office or
MoneyGram using my passport. If I was not real, I wouldn't
be able to get the money!!! Please, understand that I am real!
I sent you a copy of my passport in my last letter.
The problem is that I have no time to wait. I have only
7 days for this.
Please, understand that next time they may not even take the
documents for visa, if they refuse me now. And they will
refuse me in this if I do not pay in time. They will just tell
me what for I try to get visa for the second time if you have
no money. So I am just in hopeless situation.
All my thoughts are about one thing now. Then I may not have
such a chance again. Your goverment has a limited amount
of student visas. And if I miss my chance now, i may not have
such a chance again in the future. It is impossible to get
another kind of visa. NO one will give me a tourist visa.
It is impossible for a single russian lady to get it. I asked
about the work visa. It is a very difficult process. And also
more expensive one. I don't have a diploma about high education
in your country. And the russian one is not valid in your
country. The Fiancee visa is a very long process and complicated
process. It will take about half a year to make all the paperwork
and if they don't see that we do love each other truly they
will just refuse in the Embassy.
I want to repeat. please, understand - I ask you to lend me
money. I understand it is too expensive for a preset.
I understand that 240USD is a big some of money in your country.
I don't believe in miracles as I was disappointed many times
in this life. You will not loose this money. I will come to
your place and will work there. And as soon as I earn I will
give you money back.
I’ve been thinking a lot about us yesterday. I have so many
feelings and they are so different.
My heart aches when I understand that you are far from me.
I wish I could lessen the distance between us. I know that
I have to be patient and wait.
Perhaps, you will think that I am silly but I don’t want to
hold it all inside and I want to share my feelings with you.
I am emotional person and I want you to see my feelings.
Please, understand me. I want to share this with you. I think
I am in love with you. Of course, I have to see you in real life
and talk to you to be sure. But I have so many emotions about
you and I miss you so much. I think about you all the time.
I get up with the thoughts about you and I go to bed thinking
of you too.
I feel that I want to take care of you, I want to give you all
my love.
Please, don’t think I am weird. But this is what I feel about
you. And I want you to know this.
Life goes one. Nothing new happens. I go to work, do different
things at home, meet my friends. But any way I do something
I think of you.
Please, tell me what you think and feel about me. It is really
very important for me and I need to know this.
Lyudmila.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

Quote:

Lyudmila [email protected] to me

show details 1:57 PM (17 hours ago)

Hi dear Derrick!!!
I have no bank account. In Russia rich people have it only.
I am not rich and I have no an opportunity to have the bank
account. Therefore I ask you to send money through the Western
Union or MoneyGram!
I want you to understand one thing, I am not looking for money
and this is not what I want.
I am looking for happiness not money. I need a true man I can
trust, the one I can fall in love with. I am ready to settle
down and to have a real family. And this is what I am looking
for, not money at all. You should trust me in this way. I am
not going to lie to you.
I understand that many russian women lied to foreigners. But
not all people are the same. I am not!!!
I do not lie to you. I am open and sincere with you. I don’t know
what to do, no one from my relatives or friends can give me
these money. I am in a hopeless situation. I can rely only on you.
Perhaps, if you don’t have the money, you can ask someone of
your friends or relatives? I ask you for for help but not to make
me a present. I will give the money back any way. Tell your friends
and relatives that I guarantee to give the money back. I tell you
once again I am going to work and to study in your country so
I will give the money back any way. Please, just believe me and
send me it. I need only 240USD. I talked to people in WU and
moneygram. And they told me you could use your credit card to
send the money. You can do it from any office of WU and Moneygram.
And you can send me money even staying at home. You just need to
go to www .westernunion.com

or www .moneygram.com

Please, send me the money if you have a credit card. I will give
you the money back as soon as I come to your place.
Next week they can just officially refuse me in visa. Please,
understand that everything is ready there and I need just to
pay for it. I will come to your place by all means if I pay
240 USD now. All the paperwork is done. The problem
is only money.
It took me much forces to make all the paperwork for visa.
I had to visit all doctors to get a medical certificate.
It is one of the conditions of yor government to allow people
only who are not sick. I am healthy. And there were many other
papers and it took me much forces and time to get all. And now
when there is only one step left, I am in the corner. I don’t
know who else to ask if not you.
Everything is in you hands now. I hope you will do it soon and
send me money.
I may not have any other chance to get visa. I hope you will
believe me. And I want you to know that I am sincere with you!
I hope I will touch your heart and you will have feelings to
me. I hope you will help me.
You can send money through MoneyGram:
Name: BANK URALSIB
Addreess: KIROV PROSPEKT 39, TOMSK, RUSSIA
or
Name: RUSS-BANK
Address: MIRA PROSPEKT 72A, TOMSK, RUSSIA
or
Name: BANK URALSIB
Address: FRUNZE PROSPEKT 11A, TOMSK, RUSSIA
Or
You can send money through Western Union:
KANSKY BANK
Batenkova Ploschad, 18
Tomsk, 634050, RUSSIA
or
MDM BANK
Govorova 46
Tomsk, 634057, RUSSIA
My full name is Lyudmila Gorbunova.
I’ve got up today with the thoughts about you and it is such
a happiness to know that I have a close person in my life and
I hope you feel the same about me.
I already wrote to you, that asked from them money.
But they have no it.
My friends are really very good people. Perhaps, their life is
not really good and comfortable as you know the situation in
Russia, I already told you about this several times. Salaries are
too small here. And many people have to save every rouble to buy
a washing machine or a fridge. And my friends too have such difficulties.
But I am proud of them. They overcome all the difficulties together
and they still love each other.
This is what I want to. I want to be together in joy and sorrows,
to love each other even if the life is not really comfortable,
help each other, understand each other.
I think that every person needs such a place where he feels
comfortable and safe. Especially, it is important for a woman.
We now have to be strong. But I want to feel myself a little girl
with the strong man near. I want to be weak sometimes and let
someone take care of me.
Enjoy your day and think of me.
Lyudmila.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

Quote:

Lyudmila [email protected] to me

show details 9:35 AM (3 minutes ago)

Hello my dear one Derrick!!!
You do not understand. I cannot make the bank account!
I want you to know that I am going to write you letters any
way, even if you are not going to send me money. I want you
to understand that I communicate with you not because of the
money! You are more important to me than money!!! I asked
you to send me money not to use you. I hurry you up because
I am afraid to loose a chance to get visa. I am sure they will refuse
me next time if I do not pay now. Please, don't have any concerns
about me. And if you are really serious, please, send me money.
I want to ask you when you can send me money. I talked to
people who give visas. And they told me the day I should pay.
It is December 30. And they agreed to wait till that time. It took
me much forces to make them agree for this date.
I tried to tell them to understand my situation and wait payment
for visa more time. I asked them to wait till December, 30 so much.
It has taken a lot of difficulties to wait money such time.
Please, tell me are you going to help me? Can you send me money
during this time? Can you borrow some if you don't have any?
I will give you the money back as soon as I come.
I hope only for you.
I had a bad day yesterday. I went to a book store.
I went there bought the book. It is a love story.
And every time I read it, I think of us.
We had the big snow outside today and it took me about two hours
to get back home.
I decided not to use the public transport and just walked back
home.
I still feel a little sad and lonely. And I wish you to be here
right now. You would share wine
with me and we would talk till morning… There is so much I want
to tell you always and every day I start writing I lose all my
thoughts. As my only thought is always about you.
You are such a dear and close person to me. And I feel a little
sad as you are far from me. But soon, very soon, everything will
be over at last and I will see you.
It is worse to wait and I am patient enough as I know the miracle
is waiting for me – meeting with you.
Perhaps this letter is a little bit sad. But I just wanted to talk
to you and to share my thoughts with you. Forgive me for being
sad with you.
Lyudmila.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

I have some catching up to do with photos of this one.

Pix removed

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

Pix removed

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

I thought my last mail to him was really short and simple to follow. This one likes the guilt thing.

Quote:

to lyudmilagorbun.

show details Dec 21 (3 days ago)

My dearest Kisa! Thank you for your message and the pictures. I am sorry that you were in a sad mood after talking to the agent. I think I will be able to get the money to you by the 30th. I hope to give my workers Christmas Eve and Christmas day off with their families and should be able to get home then. I still have to have our supply man bring out the gift cards, turkeys and hams for everyone out here.

Honey I have never told you about my money situation since you told me you didn't like talking about money in your early letters. I have plenty of money to cover this and plenty more. I just have to keep my expenses separated for my different businesses and my personal affairs.

Quote:

Lyudmila [email protected] to me

show details 10:21 AM (2 hours ago)

My dear Derrick!
Will you really be in time to send money before December, 30?
Well, I even don’t know what to say. You were my hope. And
I believed in you.
Well, I understand everything. I will manage something.
You know that I want to come there very much. And the most
important for me was the meeting with you.
And I don’t know if I ever have a chance to see you. Everything
seemed to be perfect and I thought that at last my dream would
come true. You know my attitude to you, you know what I feel
about you. I feel miserable. But I can’t change anything here.
You know that if I do not pay in time, I will just do not get my
visa. Perhaps, you are indifferent to this.
I was sure in you and really hoped you would help me.
Tell me again will you be able to send me money for a certain period
of time for me? Will you have enough time to do it? Can you promise
me? You know that I can do it only till December 30.
I have already written you this and I don't know what else to tell
you to make you do it. Just tell me yes or no.
Will you send me money? I already told you that everything was
ready. And that the only thing I have to do is to pay 240 USD for
visa. And I will have it for sure. I am waiting for your reply...
It is a bit cool outside. And do you know what I would like
to do now. To make a fireplace, take some good wine, a warm blanket,
burn some candles and just sit there for hours with you. Feeling
you are close to me, feel the warmth of your body, a strong man
near me. Feel you breathing close to me.
What do you think of this? Would you share my dream? After having
some wine our imagination could get wild and we could find so many
interesting things to do.
Do you know what I would do to you…I would just tear your clothes
into pieces.
And would lick every part of your strong body
Well, it is getting to exciting to write such things and I better
stop as my face is getting read from these thoughts. And I am
afraid that people around me would not understand me.
They are looking at me already with a great interest.
And what are your dreams my dear? And am I involved into them?
Hope you think of me the same way I think of you.
And tell me - yes or no. Will you send me money?
I miss you a lot and need you so much.
Lyudmila.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

Should I tell this little peckersnot that his last few have been only about money and I am leery about and depressed> Or is there a better route?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:26 pm

you might need more "personal pics" to get over your depression

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

I really want to go that route but I'm thinking I might accidentally educate this one if I do what I want to. Slippery slope here.

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:06 pm

well if you inadvertantly educate then you just have to de-educate...just be careful how you word things so if you get what you want you can slap and say, "thats not what I meant."

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

She's back! I lost her after my last mail telling him that I was tired of seeing this "I'm depressed because of the money" trash. I told him I did not think there love between us. I got this today.

Quote:

good news...

Lyudmila [email protected] to me

show details 10:05 PM (9 hours ago)

Hi Derrick!
I want to start that I got used a lot to you during our
correspondence. I want to meet you very much. I asked you
for help but you didn't believe me and refused me. It is so
offensive. But I understand that it is very difficult to tust
the person you have never seen. I just want to tell you that
sometimes it is necessary to trust people. There are many
honest people in the world. And it was very offensive when
you refused to help me. But I have good news now. I have found
money for my trip. I am going to come approximately in 1 or 2
weeks. I have sold my fur coat. I have already paid for visa
and now all I need is to wait when I get it. I have money
for the ticket. They promised me it would be in approximately
in 2 or 3 weeks. I do not know exact dates but I will let
you know as soon as I know.
I will get visa for 3 months. And during this time I should
enter any university in your country. I will choose the one
that is close to you. Are you happy to hear this? We will
be able to meet but not only communicate through the letters.
Perhaps, our relations will grow into more close.
Please, write me your thoughts. I want to know that you still
want me to come to your place.
I will be waiting for your reply.
Lyudmila.