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 Do you ever feel like baiting may feed sociopathic behavior?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:30 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm pretty sure that my capacity for love (one of the characteristics on your list) hasn't declined due to my baiting activities.

I will admit that I enjoy making trouble for my lads, and the idea that they'll get pissed off does amuse me. At the same time, I'm sure you thought it was pretty funny when you saw the bad guy arrested last time you watched a movie. Does that make you a sociopath as well?

I'd say a lot of us are in this game for the fun of it, but that doesn't make us the bad guys. The real sociopaths are the fake lads I play...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

While I do enjoy this immensely, I'm here because of a sociopath. I try to pick the ones that target the very innocent, the disabled, the emotionally needy. Remember, many of us were victims. Mine was just in RL. We know personally how ruthless and inhuman these people are. Even then, I do get a soft spot now and then, and have to go back and read the posts where the lad calmly orders a hit on three people, or the one where the lad was willing to let children starve to death to get the last penny from a poor single mom. I hurt for those people.

I think I have learned to lie and without guilt since I've been on here.. For me, that's a good thing. Wish I had learned it earlier in life. I had NO defenses. Now I treat people as they treat me. I'm very honest with those I love (not counting feel good lies, like "do I look fat in this" "no, but I think the blue one is more flattering} I no longer make excuses for "friends" who are habitual lairs. I just remove them from my life. But I learned that from the sociopath before I got here.

That sociopath list is a part of my brain now. All I see here, with a few exceptions, are very healthy people trying to change the world in a small way. Heros? Who on here is a hero except to other baiters? A pretty small ego boost, too small to make it a reason. S'paths need more reaction than any baiter gets.

This has actually helped me recover. I feel like I'm DOING something worthwhile, even in a small way. Like some part of my life is back in my control again. I doubt I'm ever anything but a small time baiter. But if I made a lad miss even one victim by messing with me, I'm a happy camper.

On the BIG plus side, most of these people have totally crazy senses of humor, so for once I fit in!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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I shy away from the word "heroes" (I reserve that term for people who voluntarily risk their lives for others) but many who have been directly helped by people here and at scamwarners are very appreciative.


Where you shy away from using the word HERO, I yell/scream it!! lol.. I see many Heroe's on this site and at scamwarners. I would guess that most here know of my story and those that helped me out, along with the ones that tried to bait the lad. My personal heroe's here at eater are internationalchrysis, Cathartic Kate, Murry and a few others that were working behind the scene's Wink Plus all the ones that did try to help me out. Smile Heroe's come in all shapes, sizes and baiters. Very Happy

Ya'll may never think of yourself as a Hero but yall will always be Heroe's in my eyes..
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

drab wrote:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:45 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm not a sociopath. I just want to fit in.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Apart from SOOI i've never seen any disturbed character here on eater. Very Happy
@ drab: did you ever expect to see such replies to your opening post? Are you sure that baiting has changed you? I've read before on eater that some baiters did use some baiting skills in real life, but they're not becoming sociopats. We're all sane people here (including SOOI) who like to help people. I became a baiter to try to devert the lads from their victims. I also became a member of scamwarners, and i use my knowledge and experiance of lads and their scamming techniques to help victims. It gives me a great feeling when i saved a victim from being scammed, not just because i saved that victim, but also knowing that a lad has lost his chance of getting thousands of dollars. But i don't think i'm a sociopath because i save victims just to f*ck with lads, that's just a byproduct.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:58 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Just in case I gave anyone the wrong impression... as much as I like the idea that my hobby has some redeeming social value, I also enjoy the hell out of being a total pain in the ass to these parasitic creeps. Driving a lad into a frustrated, angry outburst makes my day. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Some of those characteristics drab mentioned are those that are displayed while baiting (of which being manipulative is probably the best example).

The point where baiters differ from sociopaths, is the fact that we are only manipulative (etc) in contact with scammers and are not like that in real life.


Although, of course.. I am a magnificent person. So that grandiose sense of self is present with me (though fully justified). As for lack of remorse/shame/guilt, I wouldn't know... I've never done anything to be ashamed of or feel remorse/guilt for...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Drab. Are you baiting my barrister lad?
You described him to a tee. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

the vampire wrote:
Apart from SOOI i've never seen any disturbed character here on eater. Very Happy

Disturbed? I'd say he's more disturbing than disturbed, especially when upwind.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I dont do what I do to be a hero, I dont do it for praise or even for the enjoyment of making another human being a miserbale wreck, I do it because I know I can make a difference using the talents I have learnt here.

I have also learnt that the collective knowledge of members of this site (and a few other websites that deal with scammers) is far greater than any of the official government agencies, collectively we make a huge difference and I am proud to be able to play a part in that.

I am one of the lucky ones, I get to directly see the good that we do every day though Scamwarners and there is loads of good that we do.

A wonderful and perhaps even inspiring bi product of what we do is knowing that the people we are making miserable are the same people who have driven other innocent peple to despair and even driven some to take their lives, I can only wish that we could have that same effect on scammers.

Does that make me a sociopath? if so, I wear the tag with pride (although I kind of like Sweetcakes now, it helps to fuel my ego Wink )

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Scambaiting will always attract people who perhaps want to do it for the wrong reasons, but they don't last long. Number one, the rewards don't come easily enough and number two, the mods here are all sociopaths. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

In case anyone missed it,shit like this has a lot more to do with why we do this than any psychobabble could ever explain.
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=186757

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:20 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Sad ^^ That granny could have been my mom.. I think this proves what I was saying about ya'll being heros.. Eater and scamwarers are full of unsung heroe's

Sorry, I know my post is OT...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Murry Guru wrote:
even inspiring bi product of what we do


Dude!! I just have to point this out so there's no confusion.

It's "by-product".
A "bi product" is what Pastor Frank is.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

What Murry said.

Plus I want to be around Slightly in the hopes that some of his awesomeness eventually rubs off on me... but that's of course the main reason for all of us to be here, isn't it?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

drab wrote:
I seem to enjoy trolling more than I enjoy contibuting anything constructive.


I think you explained the purpose of this thread yourself.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Whether I feel that baiting feeds sociopathic behavior?

I wouldn't know, I don't have feelings.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

drab wrote:
I have been thinking about this a lot lately. I have noticed that my postings on non-baiting forums have begun to be less emphathetic for example.


I think you don't have to be terribly worried as long as you realize that baiting may have some effect on your RL attitudes. True sociopaths can't see anything is wrong so they can't be helped either. I have personally known one case but he would never have admitted he was sick.

I don't visit so much other forums but I have met exceptionally kind people on Eater. Maybe there are sociopaths among us who only pretend to be nice, who knows? But as we all are capable to do also bad things, it's better to torture the lads than your dear ones in RL.

If you spend too much time baiting (or trolling on other forums), you may need some change. Baiting is not the only way to serve people. I for example sometimes get bored with my lads and their stupid lies and let them wait for my letters for a few weeks. Generally, I'm not even very nasty with all of them as it can be much more enjoyable to have a long and friendly phone conversation with a lad who thinks he will get my monies.

I also believe sociopaths can become successful scammers. They are well presented in all crime. Besides, if there are sociopaths baiting the lads, it's only fair. Your motives don't necessarily make you a bad baiter. Every member on Eater must be aware that I'm here only to meet hot single male baiters and I still feel respected. Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Slightlys bitch wrote:
Plus I want to be around Slightly in the hopes that some of his awesomeness eventually rubs off on me


The only thing that will rub off on you is squirrel fur, SOOI is a legend in his own lunchtime.

Plus he's psychopathic, egomaniac in his attitude, condescending, ungracious, rude, flippant, in short, all the qualities of a Great Mod.

Other than that, he's not too bad for someone who carries his nuts in his cheeks. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Jealous person wrote:
The only thing that will rub off on you is squirrel fur

Slightly is one hell of a nice guy once you get him to open up to you. The other day he PM'd me out of the blue, just to casually mention that I have a "fabulous haircut". It came as a bit of a surprise, but hey, who am I to pass up on such a great opportunity to suck up to a mod?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:29 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Sociopaths, psychopaths or insanity are old and weak arguments and are no longer used to explain people’s evil behaviour

It’s a combination of many factors that would contribute to abnormal acts

Baiting on the other hand is not evil nor is it abnormal thing

People do it for different reasons, revenge, fun or justice

Not because they are sociopaths!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^Speak for yourself...

Wait, I am getting confused, which side am I on?

Oh, yes, SOOI is a card carrying Censored for your own good 'Noid, I've got your back! Your favorite Mod and I have documents to prove it!

I started baiting for the laughs, but soon saw that baiting is a deterrent or at least a deflector for lad's sociopathic behaviors. The side benefit is that I still get to laugh.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Slightlyoutofit wrote:
drab wrote:

-Glibness and Superficial Charm


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-Manipulative and Conning


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-Grandiose Sense of Self


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-Pathological Lying


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-Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt


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-Shallow Emotions


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-Incapacity for Love


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-Need for Stimulation


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-Callousness/Lack of Empathy


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-Irresponsibility/Unreliability


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Yep.


That's one of my RPG characters exactly - and people say I don't method act. What a lot of bollocks.

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