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DrStranglove
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

What I mean to say is, I am pretty sure I have one on the hook that is actually running this from the US. Are the law enforcement types that may be interested in this?

I know it is a long shot but you never know if things may have changed.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Depends on the area he's in. Where do you think he's at?

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

He gave this as a fax number,

619 xxx-xxxx

and ip's in a quick exchange started coming back to this one.

70.44.43.222


I do not know enough about spoofing ip's to know if this is a regional thing. Also, his english got a lot better all of a sudden.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 5:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I did some Googling and came up with this:

Coastal Patent Agency

The fax number is still active. The other number isn't, but I Googled it as well and came up with the SanDiego.gov new business listing from April '09. Enter the 619-501-XXXX number into Acrobat's search function and you'll get the address of the "business" in San Diego. The website link on the Superpages directory takes you to a site that doesn't seem to jive at all with the info on the new business registry.

Seems fishy.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 5:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Pennsylvania IP and a San Diego fax number. Odd. See if you can get more out of this lad.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have had two bank accounts out of him so far. Both went to our friend. Funny, one was at Bank of America.

He wants money now sent to the UK which is odd, and gave a name which I am pretty sure is crap. My problem now is, if he is an american, he is likely a member here, so I put a lot of this in the super secret area.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^
Why would you think that he's a member here? Shocked

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ because an american (or just a western world) scammer worth half a cent would be. We, and I, have had that happen before, you know.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

DrStranglove wrote:
...so I put a lot of this in the super secret area.


SHHH!!! You wouldn't want anybody to find out about the super secret area! It's a secret! Wink

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@DrStrangelove

There are loads of Canadian "lads" , buckets of UK and Amdam lads and , for the life of me, I can't think of one instance where they have ever even tried to sign up here. We do get the occasional passing Naija mugu who slips past the filters but they never last longer than their first post.

As has been said so often- lads, even US based lads, cannot get their pointy little heads around the concept of baiting and thus there is no incentive for them to join here.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ And you are correct about that one!

BTW, the original point of this thread was to see if there is an "legal" option for US lads. Is there a DA or other law enforcement type that likes to be forwarded the ones in the US...?

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Rule no. 1 - Lads lie.

Is his IP confirmed VPN or Proxy?

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

My general feeling is that LE will only get interested if there is a victim who has lost money. Lots of money lost increases LE's interest. Then its a case of the scammer being very lazy/inept and the particular officer being both computer/net savvy and not being snowed under with other, easier "collars".

And that is not a criticism of LE either. Proving this particular type of fraud is very difficult and most coppers would rather spend their time on easier cases with a greater of chance of a successful prosecution.

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Mortal wrote:
Rule no. 1 - Lads lie.

Is his IP confirmed VPN or Proxy?


IP is above. See what you can find out. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:07 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Mortal, the Ip address points to Milford, Pennsylvania which is in fact in the US of A. There are lads in United States too, not just in UK, the Netherlands, Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria, your country, etc.

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ Mortal was asking if the IP looked like it was a satellite or some form of Proxy. Not necessarily the location the IP search gave. What I saw searching the IP is it was through a cable company, though I don't know the name as one of the "big ones" like Comcast.

As to your comment about scammer countries, I don't understand what you are saying. Are you saying that people tend to believe that scammers don't exist in their own or home country?

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^No I'm saying that, because from my misinterpretation that Mortal thought 419 scammers don't exist in the USA. Again why is everyone out to get me? Whatever it was I did not do it.

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Koko, I cannot speak for "everyone", I can only speak for myself.

I promise that I am not out to get you. We all get misunderstood and crosswise from others at time.

I was just trying to add clarity to the question you asked. sorry if you felt it was getting after you. It wasn't meant that way.

As you probably know, it is most difficult to express cues that one might be joking around. Also there are many different cultures and regional "languages" here. We don't all get the same "jokes" or "joshing around" as each other.

I have really appreciated the diversity here and I have learned a lot from asking question and learning from mistakes (mine and others). I hope you will too! Smile

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^ This why posting in a forum late at night when one should be sleeping is a bad idea. Sorry in advance for future convenience.

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Speaking as a law enforncement person, if the scammer is in the USA, then a crime has to happen. It mostly only happens when money transfers hands. Then the crime can be prosecuted at the location of the criminal OR at the location of the victim by either jurisdiction or both jurisdictions. If the internet, telephone, fax, or Wires were used then the Feds FBI can be involved for the Wire Act. If the US postal Service is used then the Postal inspector.

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I may be wrong as usual, it has been a while since I did any serious tracing, but I get a track back to Germany for the originating ip that linked to PenTelData. The Fax number is probably a mule, it isn't unknown for lads to have bank accounts all over the world. Some are laundry accounts for a group of lads, or lent out for a % of the take, which is why closing them via Alan really hurts the bastards.

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Tracing 70.44.43.222. please wait
70.44.43.222 IP address location & more:
IP address [?]: 70.44.43.222 [Whois] [Reverse IP]
IP country code: US
IP address country: ip address flag United States
IP address state: Pennsylvania
IP address city: Dingmans Ferry
IP postcode: 18328
IP address latitude: 41.2171
IP address longitude: -75.0086
ISP of this IP [?]: PenTeleData
Organization: PenTeleData
Host of this IP: [?]: 70.44.43.222.res-cmts.mlf.ptd.net [Whois] [Trace]



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70.44.43.222.res-cmts.mlf.ptd.net IP:
70.44.43.222
70.44.43.222.res-cmts.mlf.ptd.net server location:
Dingmans Ferry in United States
70.44.43.222.res-cmts.mlf.ptd.net ISP:
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The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and
Registrars.IP Address: 87.230.55.47[Who Is IP][trace][Reverse IP Search]


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87.230.55.47 IP:
87.230.55.47
87.230.55.47 server location:
Höst in Germany
87.230.55.47 ISP:
Host Europe GmbH


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% This is the RIPE Database query service.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions.
% See http://www.ripe.net[Who Is Domain][trace][Reverse DNS Search]/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf

% Note: This output has been filtered.
% To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.

% Information related to '87.230.55.0[Who Is IP][trace][Reverse IP Search] - 87.230.55.255[Who Is IP][trace][Reverse IP Search]'

inetnum: 87.230.55.0[Who Is IP][trace][Reverse IP Search] - 87.230.55.255[Who Is IP][trace][Reverse IP Search]
remarks: INFRA-AW
netname: DE-HE-DEDIC-CGN-55
descr: Hosteurope GmbH
descr: [Who Is Domain][trace][Reverse DNS Search]
country: DE
admin-c: HER4-RIPE
tech-c: HER
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: HOSTEUROPE-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

role: Host Europe Ripehandle
address: Hansestr. 109
address: 51149 Koeln
phone: +49 2203 1045 0
abuse-mailbox: [Who Is Domain][trace][Reverse DNS Search]
admin-c: DART
admin-c: FLX
admin-c: WIRR
admin-c: SHAF
admin-c: HONK
tech-c: DART
tech-c: FLX
tech-c: WIRR
tech-c: SHAF
tech-c: HONK
nic-hdl: HER
mnt-by: HOSTEUROPE-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

person: Uwe Braun
address: Hansestr. 109
address: 51149 Koeln
phone: +49 2203 1045 7000
nic-hdl: HER4-RIPE
source: RIPE # Filtered
mnt-by: HOSTEUROPE-MNT

% Information related to '87.230.0.0[Who Is IP][trace][Reverse IP Search]/17AS20773'

route: 87.230.0.0[Who Is IP][trace][Reverse IP Search]/17
descr: DE-HER-87-230-SLASH-17
origin: AS20773
member-of: AS20773:RS-HOSTEUROPE
mnt-by: HOSTEUROPE-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 12:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

1.-Lads use fake names for mailboxes, like we do. Hard to locate.
2.-LE might be interested if alot of money say $5,000 or $10,000 was lost.
3.-they don't join here. It doesn't pay MONEY. (repeat, past 1 post)
Not worth any effort from them.

4. The fax # probably is a mule, but that's actually GOOD information.
Might lead somewhere? eh?

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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:51 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Koko.Dk wrote:
^No I'm saying that, because from my misinterpretation that Mortal thought 419 scammers don't exist in the USA. Again why is everyone out to get me? Whatever it was I did not do it.

Yeah I know. I was just suggesting to check everything before any conclusion can be made.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Not done with this guy quite yet. But safe to say some other things he said lead me to believe that he does have some connection to the Coastal Credit place.

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