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Thatguy
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 01 Aug 2007
Posts: 51
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:08 pm |
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so I signed onto belovednet.com and figured.. what they hey.. Im out for a bit of lovin..
my question to all the love scam experts... is how do you tell a scammer from a legit? |
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Tasman
Elite Baiter
Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 1951
Location: In an offside position
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:45 pm |
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Well now, with your ugly mug anyone who bites would be suspicous. On a serious note if you have, like me, added a profile with no picture or details other than age etc you will get responses like "I saw your profile and my knees went weak". Then it is fair to say she is a scammer.
Other factors...
a) She is 28... they are always 28
b) She is in Russia... needs money for a visa... hang on... those model pictures look a little expensive
c) she is holding fruit |
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Mugatu
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Joined: 13 May 2007
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:52 pm |
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From what I gather (and I'm no love scam expert by a long way!) is that if you post a very drab and boring profile on my beloved, i.e. you're a 45 year old man who still lives with his parents, works in a supermarket, has no photo etc, then anyone who contacts you who is gorgeous, blond, and loves cats and fruit WILL be a scammer.
There are few genuine women on mybeloved. If you are suitably drab sounding, no-one genuine will contact you.
Edit: Just seen tasmans fruit comment, great minds think alike! |
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wayne
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Joined: 05 Dec 2005
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:00 pm |
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Google parts of the letters to see what shows up. Get them to email you off the site and check the headers. See The Bat! or Mari-El or an IP address that's nowhere near where they claim to be? Google the email address and the IP address. Look for the pictures on the various forums to see if thewy've ben used before. Eventually you'll get a "gut feeling" for what's a scammer and what's not, but until then check and search everything they send you for clues. |
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Tasman
Elite Baiter
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:00 pm |
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Great minds do think alike... just mine thought of it 7 minutes quicker! |
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PRS Girly Girl
Will Post for Food
Joined: 06 Mar 2007
Posts: 1174
Location: Any place where cute shoes are on sale.
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:37 pm |
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Scammers fall in love with you really fast and shower you with flattery. They usually quickly get to a sob story where they need money for some reason. They also tend to evade giving detailed answers to questions on areas not included in their profile. They use pictures of very attractive women.
As previously mentioned, your profile needs to be just odd enough to put off any legitimate people. |
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Murry Guru
Baiting Guru
Joined: 11 May 2007
Posts: 5561
Location: Turned into Ralph
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:05 pm |
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Hi That Guy,
I posted this in another thread on this forum just the other day:
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I think most baiters at some early stage have wondered if the Vlad is real although most probably wont admit it.
After you have been baiting for a while that feeling of "maybe she is real" will go, meanwhile look for the signs of a scam.
Did she wait a reasonable amount of time to fall in love with you?
Does she answer your questions?
does she call you by your name? if so has she spelt it right?
Is every email completely different? (same copy and pasted crap complete with spelling and grammer mistakes is a sure sign and very common)
does her IP show her to be where she claims to be?
Answer NO to a few of these and you have yourself a scammer, keep in mind that the smarter scammers out there are aware of this and will avoid all the above things.
If you are not yet convinced, google exact search is a wonderous tool, google sentences with the spelling and grammer mistakes or her name and email address and see what comes up.
Read over all the emails that both you and your scammer have exchanged and look for holes in her story, as I mentioned above for me the part where she had been admiring my picture was a sure givaway which came very early.
Still not sure? Place some random stupid question in your email such as, would you mind if I bring my mates around to do you?, a real person will spot this and ask about it. If it is spotted, simply use the excuse that you had to make sure she was for real and now you are convinced she is real, tell her that, (but dont start to think she is real yet)!
Create a new email addy and send an email from another address to see if you get the same script
Ask her for ID or a photo holding a sign.
Finally if you have been through these things and still are not sure, post up the emails and photos and ask us here
Now once you have been through all of these things and still think she is real, stop emailing and try someone else |
Now I say this for your future baiting success and not to sound rude but, you really need to read more about what is going on in this forum if you are to go well in the romance department
BTW
As suggested fruit and also a cat in the picture are also a pretty good give away.
Those Vlads do like fruit and pussies best stop, it's looking like I am going somewhere with this. |
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BRUIN
Baiting Guru
Joined: 10 Apr 2006
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:05 pm |
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If in doubt, send the "young lady" two different e-mails from two different personas. Watch "her" respond to both - -you will soon know she is a scammer.
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MisterHobbs
419Eater is my life
Joined: 25 Jul 2007
Posts: 293
Location: In Diana now. Miss Ouri later.
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:49 pm |
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redshoes17
Elite Baiter
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 1731
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:22 am |
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Dear love baiters,
I hope you can help me.
I have been corresponding with two different gentlemen for over nine weeks now. One lives in accra and the other in Lagos. One wants to marry me, the other loves me like a sister. Both want me to visit. Neither has yet asked for money or gifts.
Each says the other is a scammer. Can you tell me which one is telling the truth? |
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MisterHobbs
419Eater is my life
Joined: 25 Jul 2007
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:04 am |
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Murry Guru
Baiting Guru
Joined: 11 May 2007
Posts: 5561
Location: Turned into Ralph
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:14 am |
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@Red Shoes,
When they both say that the other is a scammer they are both telling the truth
When they say that they are telling the truth, neither is telling the truth,
I can only presume they want you to visit them so that they can kidnap you and hold you for ranson or take photos of you to use to scam males.
While I could be wrong about this I would suggest you think no differently.
Just a thought if you can try to work out where each is then send them after each other |
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ParaNoid
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Joined: 12 Sep 2006
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:51 am |
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Murry beat me, I was going to say "Both"!
EDIT: Must uncross fingers when typing |
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Thatguy
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 01 Aug 2007
Posts: 51
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:55 am |
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well given she has a picture in her profile that looks an awful lot like Elisha Cuthbert... that was my first clue... just was curious as to what else to look for.
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PRS Girly Girl
Will Post for Food
Joined: 06 Mar 2007
Posts: 1174
Location: Any place where cute shoes are on sale.
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:28 pm |
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@redshoes. There's no doubt both are scammers. Love scam lads are very patient. None of mine after 5 months have asked for money, but one is starting to hint and another has suddenly become ill (medical bills anyone?). Another one keeps insisting he is not a scammer and not interested in my money. Each has exhibited more than one of the behaviors or characteristics previously described. Both of yours are scammers. How did they find out about each other?
@Thatguy. The obviously posed, model quality picture is a sure sign of a scammer and not a possible scammer. Add it to all of the previously mentioned scammer characteristics and there's no doubt in my mind. |
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Connie L. Gus
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:52 pm |
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Check the headers for THE BAT! (Professional). Not all Vlads use it, but I could not imagine why someone sincerely looking for love would be using it. Another give away is when you get photo 1.jpg, 2.jpg, 3... you get the idea.
I've altered my profiles so that they are way over the top. Under 4 feet, smokes like a Yugo and what hair. I've had to ignore quite a few lonely people before the change. Now its only Vlads.
Edit: just saw Wayne's post about THE BAT! |
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redshoes17
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:13 pm |
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There's no doubt both are scammers. How did they find out about each other? |
Of course they are both scammers, my post was a joke. They know about each other because my character has been talking to both of them about the other all along. The accra guy has gone so far as to say not to trust anybody on the internet, not even him.
Now that my character is talking about going to Nigeria and marrying the other lad, he has started tutoring my character on 419 scams. Yesterday he sent me a link to a site about 419 scams. He also points out inconsistancies in the nigeria lad's story and tells my character of ways to "test" the other lad. He has even offered to travel with my character to Nigeria to protect her.
Yes, I have a lad with a mother in the hospital, one I suspect wants me to send him a laptop, and poor dan is still waiting for me to shop for his mobiles. |
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ARK Tamale to Kumasi
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I don't need you alone for sex. w1l13
i was ashamed this money money was not in the system when we got there to cash it,it made me and my family lawyer look like little children Godwin
'because no one want your progress not every one want your goat to give birth to twins as the man who see tomorrow told me when i visit him in the shrine Godwin
i was rubbed by rubber last friday, they collectted all my money and my phones. |
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