Idea for mass safari... NEED MORE HELP PLEASE!

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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:13 pm

Has anything like this been done before?

If not would anyone like to get involved? I'm hopeless at the website building etc.

We could start a new American company who have got a huge amount of money to build a factory / church / university in Africa.
We will send out questionnaires for market research to all the lads.
If they fill them in they will get a large amount of money as a reward and to collect it they will be invited to attend our grand opening located somewhere in the middle of nowhere.
We can provide them with pics of the construction of our building and of course have a website detailing everything.

Imagine if we could get a load of lads all turning up in a field somewhere at the same time to collect their money expecting a big unveiling ceremony! Smile

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:18 pm

Interesting thought. The old Mass Bait of SP's is winding down a bit.
Yes it would take a bit of setting up but sometimes the dedication of resources would be worthwhile.
I would go along the idea of sticking to one country, away from the previous mass bait and start the build up slowly with the target date for launch far enough away so that we can build up lists of lads and see what 'home team skills' we can put together to share the load.

Wannabe Baiter Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 82

I would be up for it.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:23 pm

I wouldn't mind helping out on this. Depending on my lad load at the time, I would like to join in on this. The best way to have it done, in my opinion, is to make the destination somewhere like Lome, Togo or Abuja. Somewhere that is not too far, but still quite an inconvenience. I say Lome because that is somewhat central to Accra lads, Ivory Coast lads, Lagos lads, etc. Abuja works well for those already in Nigeria.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:29 pm

Ok how about this...

We will build a "Religious Education Centre of Excellence"
It will open sometime around the beginning of June.
In the meantime we will send out market research forms.
The lads will be paid 10k to fill out these forms.
They will collect the 10k at our "Official Openeing Ceremony"
At the ceremony they will be made honourary life members which will entitle them to future profits from the centre.

We will need forms (really really detailed of course)
A website for our organisation which will show building progress.
A decision on a place

Master Baiter Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 187

How about a research hospital to be founded by an NGO that just got a huge grant from the Gates Foundation.

If they participate, they get to use the honorific "Dr." in front of their names.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:37 pm

^^ Sounds good, I just thought of trying to make it some sort of religious thing as they tend to do what God tells them

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:55 pm

Cool idea for a mass safari, just try to not step on my game:

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108070

What kind of payment do you think will motivate lads to go on safari, and how many of them will believe that they'll get that amount for just a market survey? Do you think 10K makes sense for that?

Master Baiter Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 187

The Chairman of the NGO could be a man (or woman) of the cloth. That would combine religion plus healthcare. You could send articles about the Gates Foundation allocating $$$ to fight AIDS and malaria.

Once they arrive at the site, their travel expenses will be reimbursed, but they will need lots of documentation, of course.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:00 pm

Prolix wrote:

Cool idea for a mass safari, just try to not step on my game:

These kinds of emails have been sent out for quite some time... I don't think it will step on 'your game'.

Does $10k make sense? Heck no, that is why we are sending it. IMO, we want the REALLY stupid lads. We want the ones that will believe that all they have to do is fill out a form and they will get $10k. Does it make sense to get a tattoo for your church membership? Nope. Does it make sense to hold a fish on your head or take a bath in Cheetos? Absolutely not! That is why we do it!

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:03 pm

@Prolix

I'll make sure not to step on your toes Smile

I dont think 10k is a sensible payment for a survey but when a lad sees figures he generally only sees figures and doesnt give a thought to what hes had to do for it. That combine with the huge corporation might make it more plausible.

Master Baiter Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 187

Quote:

What kind of payment do you think will motivate lads to go on safari, and how many of them will believe that they'll get that amount for just a market survey? Do you think 10K makes sense for that?

No, how about $20 to $50 per survey, they each need to recruit X number of friends to fill them in.

In addition to the money for the surveys and the honorary degrees, there could be a door prize. One lucky lad can win $10,000. To benefit his village, of course.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:12 pm

This doesn't have to make sense guys...

First off, a lad doesn't travel for $50. It needs to be in the thousands. Secondly, a lad who is greedy is going to be blinded by it, which is just what you want. He will not travel for a door prize. HJS has the right idea for a safari.

I told my lad who made the Lads of Lagos calendar he would make $75000 for it. Does that sound reasonable? Heck no. But he did it!

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:12 pm

Ok, my minds attempting to get going....

We will be an NGO called "Adulescens" (This is the Latin word for lad)

We have gotten a huge grant from the "Jesus Foundation" (Dont want to use the Gates Foundation as they are real and Jesus always appeals to the lads)

We will be building the "African Research Scientific Enterprise" (Or ARSE for short)

Master Baiter Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 187

Quote:

First off, a lad doesn't travel for $50. It needs to be in the thousands.

Well of course not, that's why he needs to have lots of "friends" fill in the surveys. But you're right, it doesn't have to make sense. My thought was that requiring each one to come up with 20 filled-in surveys makes more work for them, plus makes it a little more realistic.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:05 pm

Ok I've written the first part of the survey which should keep them going a while.

Does anyone fancy putting this in a proper form?

I'll have more done when my brain goes back to normal size, believe me this isnt even half of it yet Twisted Evil

Quote:

Survey on African Foundation

Please answer all of the following questions. Please use as much detail as possible.
This will help us greatly to build our research foundation which you will automatically become a member of when you answer our survey.
You will also be entitled to our survey answer fee of $10,000 and a percentage of any future profist from our foundation

Name:
First Name:
Last Name:
Date Of Birth:
Age:
Nationality:
Country Of Birth:
Place Of Birth:
Country of Residence:
Fathers Name:
Fathers First Name:
Fathers Last Name:
Fathers Date of Birth:
Fathers Age:
Fathers Country Of Birth:
Fathers Place Of Birth:
Fathers Country of Residence:
Mothers Name:
Mothers First Name:
Mothers Last Name:
Mothers Date of Birth:
Mothers Age:
Mothers Country of Birth:
Mothers Place of Birth:
Mothers Country of Residence:
How many brothers and sisters do you have:
Please list the names of all your brothers and sisters:
Please list the first names of all your borthers and sisters:
Please list the last names of all your brothers and sisters:
Please list all the dates of Birth of your brothers and sisters:
Please list all the ages of your brothers and sisters:
Are you married:
If yes please give your wife / husbands name:
Wife / husbands First Name:
Wife / Husbands Last Name:
Wife / Husbands Date of Birth:
Wife / Husbands Age:
Wife / Husbands Country Of Birth:
Wife / Husbands Place Of Birth:
Wife / Husbands Country of Residence:
Do you have any children:
If Yes please list all your childrens names:
Childrens First Name:
Childrens Last Name:
Childrens Date of Birth:
Childrens Age:
Childrens Country Of Birth:
Childrens Place Of Birth:
Childrens Country of Residence:
What is your religion:
What is your Fathers religion:
What is your Mothers religion:
What is your Brothers religion:
What is your Sisters religion:
What is your Childrens religion:
Do you believe in God:
Does your Father believe in God:
Does your Mother believe in God:
Does your Brother believe in God:
Does your Sister believe in God:
Does your Children believe in God:
What is your Job:
How much does it pay:
What is your Fathers Job:
How much does he get paid:
What is your Mothers Job:
How much does she get paid:
What is your Brothers Job:
How much does he get paid:
What is your Sisters Job:
Hoe much does she get paid:
What is your Childrens Job:
How much do they get paid:
Where do you live:
What type of house do you live in:
When was the house built:
How many rooms are in the house:
What size are all the rooms:
What is your favourite room in the house:
How many people sleep in your bedroom:
Do you have a television in your house:
What make is the television:
How big is the television:
Please list all the television channels that you can watch:
What is your favourite television program:
Who are the actors in your favourite television program:
How many people watch your favourite television program:
Is there a cooker in your house:
Who cooks the meals in your house:
How many meals do they cook per day:
How many meals do they cook per week:
How many meals do they cook per month:
How many meals do they cook per year:
What do you like to eat:
How much do you eat each day:
What was the weight of your last meal:
Who cooked your last meal:
Do you have a car:
If yes what make of car is it:
What colour is it:
How many wheels does it have:
How many kilometeres has the car been driven:
How many of these kilometeres have you driven the car:
When was the last time you drove the car:
Where did you drive it to:
Who was in the car with you:
Have you ever had a flat tire:
Which tire was it:
Who fixed it for you:
What type of fuel does you car run on:
Does your car run on petrol:
Does your car run on diesel:
How many kilometeres to the gallon does your car travel:
How much does petrol cost in your country:
When did you last buy petrol:
How much did you spend:
When was the last time you bought food:
How much did you spend:
Please list all the food you bought and each individual price:
What was the name of the shop you bought the food in:
How many people work in this shop:
Please list the names of all the people who work in this shop:
How big is the shop:

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:02 pm

Here is the artists impression of our new centre

Here's the first meeting of our building committee

And heres the groundbreaking ceremony

If anyone can photoshop these to look a bit more African please do and feel free to add any more, excavation work, building starting etc etc

Not quite a Newb Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 23

We could watch in on Google earth Laughing

Whats a green blob under your avatar mean ?

Master Baiter Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 187

I have a tendancy to get too into the back stories.

Perhaps the Jesus Foundation (is that short for What Would Jesus Do Foundation? I think I've seen your bumper stickers) was founded by a group of wealthy Christians who are alarmed by the tendancy for medical research to be funded by secular high-tech types. They have donated a huge sum of money to ARSE, they want to fund anti-AIDS and STD education projects, but they need to be based on abstinence and fidelity. Maybe they can research faith healing as well.

Perhaps they could offer a bonus to those who fill in an on-line vow of chastity. There could be a guest book where participants sign in to say how they're doing.

Your market survey needs a medical section with some cringe-inducing personal questions. Also some highly personal questions about sexual history. All this is relevent, after all.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:12 pm

Survey Part 2

Quote:

How many countries have you visited:
List the names of the countries:
List the names of each town you visited in each country:
List the dates when you visited the countries:
Why did you visit each country:
Who did you meet in each country:
List the First name of each person you met in each country:
List the Last name of each person you met in each country:
Give the age of each person you met in each country:
Which method of travel did you use to visit each country:
How far in kilometeres is each country away from your own:
How far in kilometeres is each town you visited away from your own town:
What was the weather like in each country when you were there:
What is the weather like in your home country:
How much average rainfall does your homw country get:
How many hours per day of sunshine is there in your country, list each day separately:
How many hours per day of sunshine is there in every other country you have visited:
Has it ever snowed in your country:
How much snow was there in kg:
Has it ever snowed in any other country:
List any other country where it has snowed:
How many countries are there in Africa:
List the names of all the countries in Africa:
Which is your favourite African county:
How many people live in your country:
How many people live in your town:
How many people live in Africa:
What is the most common first name in your country:
What is the most common last name in your country:
What height are you:
How much do you weigh:
Are you tall or small:
Are you fat or thin:
List the height of each member of your family:
List the weight of each member of your family:
IS your family tall or short:
Is your family fat or thin:
How often do you talk to your family:
How long does an average conversation last with your family:
How many words do you speak in this conversation:
How many words do you speak in a day:
How many days holiday do you get per week:
How many days holiday do you get per month:
How many days holiday do you get per year:
Where do you go on holiday:
Do you take your family with you:
Which method of travel do you use to go on holiday:
How far do you travel:
How long does it take to get there:

If someone can put these into a proper form it would be great. I will have hundreds more, I'm about to fall asleep now!

** ACCOUNT CLOSED ** Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 766

Scurries from lurking shelter:

If you can snare more than one, perhaps a suggestion from an "assistant managing director" can "privately" and "secretly" e-mail them. This assistant may have been introduced earlier by name in a form or something. Anyways, the "Assistant" suggests that there is competition from other companies--even a "legitimate" one run by a scambaiter for further scambaiting in the future. The ideas can be that the scammer has to get to the location before everyone else.

Or, the "Assistant" can claim to put in a "good word" for a "trophy"--"I've always wanted a fine carving of"--so the scammer will be chosen.

Scurries back into lurking shelter:

--J.D.

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:08 pm

The best thing to do, is keep it simple. Keep the story simple, keep the tasks relatively simple. They don't want to do a lot of work for the money. Keep it straightforward. There does not need to be a big back story, they won't read it anyway, trust me. They want to know about 3 things:

1. Money
2. The task
3. Money

That is it. This is a fine idea and, if executed properly, could result in a lot of fun.

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