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Gamblor
Master Baiter
Joined: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 146
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:54 am |
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Does anyone ever feel bad about making these guys do some of this stuff? I know a lot are criminals and would do anything to steal someone's money, but I can't help but think some might just be poor kids trying to jump on the bandwagon. I got a few trophy pics today and the living conditions look pretty squalid.
Maybe I shouldn't drink and bait, oh well. |
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JoeTam
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Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:56 am |
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Nope. Hey, can I borrow 5,000 $ USD? Pay ya right back! |
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Gamblor
Master Baiter
Joined: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 146
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:58 am |
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Sure! I'll send a moneygram first thing in the morning! |
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Canadon Alfa
419Eater is my life
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 293
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:02 am |
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Every time I have second thoughts, I get another email that demonstrates what utter fecal matter these people are.
My only second thoughts are more the "What if they come and get me?" variety. But, I try to bait as safe as possible, so hopefully that risk is fairly small. |
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frankireland
Elite Baiter
Joined: 03 Dec 2003
Posts: 1171
Location: Dublin
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:34 am |
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There have been numerous debates about this already.
do a search for baiting and ethics. And no I dont feel one bit guilty either |
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ParaNoid
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Joined: 12 Sep 2006
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:14 am |
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They could choose to work for WU or MG instead of choosing to be a criminal. Reading the plight of victims and the arrogance of those who have answered questions about their "craft" leave no doubt in my mind that waisting their time (and other things) is appropriate.
Good to think about it, and if it rubs you wrong, you can choose not to do it...
Maybe if we sent a lot of money over there it would help?
Wait the estimated USD amount that is scammed / stolen by these types of criminals is over a Billion USD annually.
I don't make that kind of money... |
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SlayerFaith
Baiting Guru
Joined: 03 Mar 2005
Posts: 5778
Location: Vegas, baby!
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:25 am |
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Same advice I always give
If you get to thinking that, just maybe, your lad isn't such a bad person, bait him from another addy. Make your character poor, old, ill, and alone; and see to it that the lad knows it. When he starts asking for money, tell him that you really want to help, but the only cash you have is for your medical treatments (or the $60 food money that has to last a month, or whatever).
See what he says.
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I can't help but think some might just be poor kids trying to jump on the bandwagon |
If that's the case, the best thing that could happen to him is to run into a baiter who convinces him that being a shitbag scammer who doesn't care about anyone or anything but himself is NOT a good way to live. |
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Jayhawk
Baiting Guru
Joined: 07 Jul 2006
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:39 am |
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^^^^ What Slayer said.
I feel bad when I have pizza with onions on it right before bedtime. As for baiting? Nah..... |
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jpeterman
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Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Posts: 9
Location: Los Estados Unidos
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:42 am |
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^^^^^
I was going to say I felt bad about a bait one time....
....But then I realized it was just gassy build up. |
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Centaure
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Posts: 812
Location: Roasting lads in hell
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:45 am |
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Reading the starting post made me think of one of my first bait. Was suppose to be a poor mother with a baby suffering from brain cancer. A real sh*tbag lad always asking for money.
Asem some insult to the lad in the mugu mail section and that funny feeling will go away. |
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CaptainBasura
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 539
Location: Softly, softly, catchee monkey.
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:21 am |
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Just to put it in perspective, there are people on this earth who don't have two brass ha'pennies to rub together, can't get work, yet are upright and God-fearing. They'd give you their last breath if they thought it would help.
Now consider the scum of this earth... |
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4X1X9
Baiting Guru
Joined: 17 Sep 2006
Posts: 5905
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:31 am |
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The problem is these guys are not helping the truly needy people in their country. There are exceptoins to this rule of course such as in the case of the infamous Emmanuel Nwude who used some of $200 million he scammed from a bank official to improve the conditions in his home village of Abagana. I'm not saying the end justifies the means but he had the roads tarmacked, set up educatoinal scholarships and built a water tower (Source: Michael Peel, Nigeria-Related Financial Crime and its links with Britain, pp.22-3). But let us not fool ourselves I'm sure he pocketed a lot for himself too and this philanthropy would probably have not gone unrewarded.
However on the whole most just pocket whatever they make and they are creating a false economy by bringing cash into the country this way, this leads to inflation and the poor honest Nigerians (who are in the majority) then suffer as the price of basic commodities increases. The emphasis lays on the governemnt to stop scratching each others backs and create conditions were people have good prospects to earn a living honestly. Nigeria is an oil rich nation there is the potential to create a stable society if the government got serious on tackling corruption.
There is a lot of poverty in Africa and people who need help, if you want to help the truly needy (who cannot afford Internet cafe time) donate money via Oxfam or other such legitimate charity. [/i] |
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Buck Turgidson
419Eater is my life
Joined: 02 Dec 2005
Posts: 490
Location: In The War Room
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:46 am |
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Never felt sorry for 'em yet, my lads are trying to get money from my church that helps the needy in Africa, & all these guys seem to want is cash/mobile phones & laptops! I love wasting their time & money. No doubt they will show their true colours when they walk the plank
never feel sorry for these con men, simple & easy as that |
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Lpico
Master Baiter
Joined: 16 Nov 2006
Posts: 161
Location: coonztowne
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:59 am |
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There are some things baiters do here that I wouldn't be comfortable doing to mugus... so I don't do them. My baits are straight-baits. Harmless wasting of time. Maybe some pictures someday. I never feel bad about the baiting I do, and the baiting other people do isn't my business, so I don't spend time worrying about it. Just bait at the level you feel comfortable. If you start to feel bad about it, take a break or stop altogether.
I also remind myself if I ever feel weird about it that no one is MAKING them get themselves tattooed and get naked in a river. They're doing it voluntarily because they think they'll get something out of it. |
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callum
Director of Press Relations
Joined: 29 May 2004
Posts: 3631
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:08 am |
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jpeterman wrote: |
I was going to say I felt bad about a bait one time.... |
The only time you should feel bad is when you suddenly realise you're down to one bait at a time...
Nicely put @CaptainBasura |
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BrotherhoodOfMan
419Eater is my life
Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 315
Location: UK
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:29 am |
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Of course, there's always the possibility that the scammer you bait is some hard-up person who's looking for the easy way out of their poverty. However, what they're doing is a serious crime and if these new people get burned then it could make them really think twice about it before possibly deciding to try and do honest work instead.
But then again pretty much every scammer I've seen on here seem rich enough. If they had no money how could they afford to pay internet caf� fees, pay for numerous trophy photos, make things etc etc... And they all look pretty snazzily dressed in the photos too. |
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BadKarma
419Eater is my life
Joined: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 447
Location: Funland
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:30 am |
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SlayerFaith wrote: |
If you get to thinking that, just maybe, your lad isn't such a bad person, bait him from another addy. |
Excellent advice. I must confess, I once had second thoughts about one bait, but this trick confirmed me that the lad was full of poo.
Gamblor wrote: |
Maybe I shouldn't drink and bait, oh well. |
I get the best/sickest ideas when I've had a few |
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PsycheDelia_Smith
Baiting Guru
Joined: 30 Oct 2004
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:35 pm |
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I only feel bad because I know that the lad's probably ruining old ladies and college kids in places like India and Bangladesh, who think something's come along to lift them out of their poverty. I guess those people could choose to jump on the bandwagon, too, but their common decency prevents it. Nothing a baiter does to them in the course of a typical bait comes close to redressing the balance. They're heartless scum, and should be treated accordingly. |
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M_Saeed_Al_Sahhaf
Elite Baiter
Joined: 03 Aug 2004
Posts: 1954
Location: Originally Baghdad, Iraq (There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!) Now UK GMT+1
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:58 pm |
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If you're feeling bad about it, try a few experiments with ASEM.
How about a misdirected email for the funding of an orphanage, or a hospital, take your pick.
I can guarantee that they'll bite your hand off to get the money, they will have no conscience about taking it. I did it ,purely as thought experiment, no matter what I came up with, the lad would always go for the money.
I've also tried for about a year to get a trophy pick of a lad feeding street children. Not one of them will do it, they just can't bring themselves to do it. Mmm, I wonder why.
The guys doing this are usually well educated by Nigeria standards, they have been given all the advantages in their system. A lot of 419 scams are run by the students societies attached to Nigerian universities. How do they choose to use their education - they run 419 scams.
The real poor of Nigeria don't have $4/hour to sit all day in Net cafes, if they had that sort of money they'd be feeding their families. |
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Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 690
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:52 pm |
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if youre feeling bad for lads, click the "how low will lads go?" link in my sig. that should get you going again. |
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NoFool
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Posts: 68
Location: Germany
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:11 pm |
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don't feel bad. think about the millions of the people they have caught of their money and who have lost their families, their jobs, their kids and don't have a hope for their former life. don't have a few feelings for this
this scum. bait them, bait them safe and make them suffer. for all the victims. god bless you.
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The Monsignor
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Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Posts: 3221
Location: St Michael's Chapel
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:23 pm |
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Below is an extract from an article by an African journalist, concerning an ongoing trial of some African 419 Scammers. It may be considered relevant to this debate.
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�While they are facing trial, the junior ones are still at it. They still keep sending e.mails to people introducing them to business and sending proposals to foreigners. Who is to blame? (Is it) these men or their preys? Their preys are as guilty as they are. No sane man would want to do business with someone he has not met before. It takes a thief to deal with a thief.� |
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CaptainBasura
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 539
Location: Softly, softly, catchee monkey.
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:32 pm |
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The Monseignour wrote: |
... It takes a thief to deal with a thief.� |
A totally subjective remark by the journo, and a point again which has been argued many times. |
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...so now i was like looking for who to say the true before i can step into any fucking relationship. Francisca Jennifer Badou
YOU ARE A FOOL AND MUST BE A FOOL FOREVER. GO TO HELL WITH YOUR FUCKING $350. Paker Lee.
...after all there is nothing I will gain in this that more than the insult i recieved from you. Mark Youmans
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Seven of Nine
Baiting Guru
Joined: 18 Jun 2006
Posts: 2147
Location: Somewhere in time.
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:08 pm |
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The Monseignour wrote: |
Blah Blah Blah..... It may be considered relevant to this debate............. |
No. I am not a thief, and neither do I believe the general baiting community or victims are either. Someone, somewhere has twisted their logic and behold, there is a hole in their bag of marbles.
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breadcrumb
Baiting Guru
Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 2075
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:10 pm |
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At this stage of my baiting "career" I can only say: In the beginning, I sometimes felt a bit sorry, but by now I have learned enough about this scumbags, that I don�t feel a single bit of pitty for them. This may sound cold hearted, but I am anything but cold hearted. I feel for the victims not the criminals. |
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