Has anyone ever got in trouble from baiting?

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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:16 pm

I checked out my own IP address on my messages to my scammer through Yahoo! It gives my ISP, but lists it as being somewhere in Virginia. Neither me nor my alias lives there, so it's all good.

Guess it also helps that I use a large, multi-state ISP. Smile

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:40 pm

Not that I'd ever do it....but wouldn't mailing fecal matter to Africa not really put a dent in whatever diseases they already have on the street?

I think you have a better chance of getting a Mugu infected with something by just having him stand on a street corner for a couple of hours.

Did anyone catch the news report of the middle eastern guy in TX who was caught sprinkling dried fecal matter or bakery products at a local supermarket?? I wondered where he got that idea at the time.... Rolling Eyes

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:50 pm

If it was just mugu's handling the package I wouldn't mind so much, but as they are not.....

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:14 am

lol if you are worried about people handling it, put it in something like tupaware rather than mailing a brown paper bag

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:53 am

I don't know about other countries, but in the US, sending biological waste through the mail is a no-no for anyone without a license. It is considered a biohazard and requires special packaging and warnings. It can also only be sent either to or from a licensed medical facility or laboratory. That is why most facilities Fedex or UPS their samples... Still need permits.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:40 am

Hamm On Wry,

What he said....

Y'all keep in mind that the pathogens that you have been exposed to and that your body tolerates might kill someone else.

The Lakhota smallpox epidemic of 1876 was caused by a handful of wool blankets which had been used in the infirmary, being given to the reservation as part of a treaty.

It killed more Sioux than the Remington autoloader and Henry longrifle.
The Europeans had a resistance to the pox and had been exposed to chicken pox and cow pox in a farm environment...

The Sioux had no resistance, and were not farmers. Their immune systems had never been challenged with lesser pox virii thatr could have innoculated them against smallpox.

What caused a sometimes fatal but often disfiguring disease in Europeans, caused in the Sioux, a fever that baked their brains, and liquified their skin.

That is the reason that medical samples require special packaging for shipment... and special lables....

what you are discussing is nothing short of a "maybe" bioweapon.

uncool

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:47 am

Sending feces through the mail has been discussed here before. Mainly by people who were banned after a short while.

It's not "evil," it's stupid and illegal.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:01 am

I once baited an orphan charity as a rich Texas Baptist preacher looking for an overseas retreat with lots of little boys. Turns out, the charity was real. I sweated a knock on my door for a long time over that one. Watch out for those praize.com emails.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:05 am

now THAT is funny!

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:30 am

@skinnyrat

so they were a real charity looking for donations through email?

btw, as for the biological waste, its most likely illegal to send any biological material without a license because of the risk of introducing foreign pests. At least its a really big deal here in Australia even between states

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:45 am

This is how I bait: I won't really be specific on names, but the mugus wouldn't be able to get a hand on the items that I use anyways.

1. Use T-Mobile Prepaid. You can change you number free of charge to any other number every six months. Plus they give you extra minutes per refill after you buy $250 of refills. I've had my account for two years, and had have three different numbers (619 and 305 the first two, won't reveal the current area code, but it's located in just a sunny place as the two above area codes). I use a fake name, btw.

2. I live across the border. Mexican cops will protect you for as little as a bottle of Tequila. Twisted Evil

3. Get a visa gift card. Like the one available at [SNIP>******<SNIP] .. i meant a company that owns alot of malls here in the US. Those cards are a gem in that they can be used online with virtually any US address.

4. I do baiting on my university's campus. So does one member of my university's campus police.

Any more and the mugus will be tearing their Jerri-curled hairs out! Laughing

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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:56 am

^^^^ You actually spend money on this?? Rolling Eyes

I use every bit of free software that comes down the pike. I make them call me on Stanaphone or K-7, I make them send me e-faxes, and I have a neat little thing to make them burn their money up, thinking that they have reached my work number..

Baited for about 6 months now... total monatary outlay....$0

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:58 am

I know that, but it's just my style. Smile

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 8:08 pm

I almost got caught baiting a "real" person. It was from a Craig's List ad and had all the same characteristics as the normal stuff:

1) Sent from one email account, but the email itself asked me to reply to an @hotmail.com address
2) The email referenced my ad, but didn't specify my item
3) The item was asked to be donated to charity, despite clearly being an item no charity would ever want
4) The phone number and email address used in the email did not match the website of the organization (same area code though)
5) The website of the business represented wasn't a charity
6) It had what I thought was a k7.net number

Turns out #6 was my clue as it was the cell phone of the individual. And doing some research into the email address showed he was representing the company, just that he chose not to use his own domain name. I had thought I'd found a really clever lad. Embarassed

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 8:19 pm

one reason not to use real information: http://odili.net/news/source/2003/nov/23/39.html

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:02 am

Craig's list has had a couple winners recently.
UKI-Parcel comes to mind.

Stay home, accept deliveries and a check for more than the amount of shipping...
deposit the check in your personal bank account and before it actually clears send a moeny order to a Russian drop box.

You know... pretty standard stuff.
If this guy is doing the same things that the scammers do, then I'd hesitate to call him "real" in a context with "legit."

If it looks like a duck....

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