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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:43 am

October 10
Mary met a new friend on a word game (the one where serreptition found Larry). He was a soldier, with a 17 year old daughter. After some chat there we moved on to hangouts.

Mary: Hi
Johnny: Hi
How are you doing Mary.
Mary send me your picture.
Mary: Don't be a spoil sport. It's too early to sleep
Johnny: So stress out dear
Can I have your picture
Mary: Stressed why
Johnny: House chores
Mary I'll love to have a picture
Send please before I go to bed
Mary: What time is it over there
Johnny: 10:15 pm
Send me your picture please.
Mary: In Boston?
Johnny: No
Send me a picture I want to see who I'm talking to
😪
Mary: But you said you're in Boston
Johnny: I'm from Boston
I'm not in Boston now.
Send me your picture
Mary: Where are you now
Johnny: Damascus
Send me your picture stop Making me look stupid caused of a picture
Mary: Sorry but I don't know you yet. For all I know your some perv. Mom told me not to send my pic to strangers
Johnny: Tell me more about your mom
Mary: She's overprotective
Johnny: Same with me
Mary: Lol
Johnny: How about your Dad
Mary: How
He's a tiran
Johnny: I have a daughter she's called Zoe
Mary: What's her age
Johnny: 17
Oh nice, almost my age
Mary: Yeah
Johnny: Wanna see her pic
Mary: Sure
Johnny: <picture>
Here you go.
Mary: Nice
Johnny: Send me your picture
Mary: <Mary's picture>
I'm on the left. But you didn't send yours yet
Johnny: Who's there with you
Mary: a friend
Johnny: Your mom is she single.
You both look beautiful
Mary: No she's not
She's kinda married to my dad
Johnny: Why kinda?
What did she do for a living she and your dad.?
Mary: You didn't send me your picture yet
Johnny: <picture, not him>
There you go.
Mary: Good looking for 54
I could've sworn you're 51
😁
Johnny: Smile thank you
Mary: What are you doing in Iraq?
Johnny: I work there.
First tell me about yourself and your family
Mary: my dad is an ex pet working for shell. he's grumpy and strict. Mom is a trophy wife. Sweet as long as she gets her manicures in time
Johnny: How about you.
Mary: I'm homeschooled because we need to go with dad on busines trips often
Johnny: Awwwn
Are you going out tomorrow
I want you to spare $100 for me.
Mary: I'm going with mom to a charity event
Johnny: Can you get me a card there when you go out with mom?
Mary: Sure, send me your address
Johnny: No you don't need a address Mary.
Is there Walmart or supermarket there at Netherland.
Mary: No walmarts
Johnny: Tell them you want a google play card
How about a mall?
Supermarket.
Mary: I don't use google play cards
Johnny: What card do you use
Mary: My credit card
Johnny: Let me see it
Mary: no
Johnny: Mary have you heard about iTunes cards.
Don't ever send your credit card to anyone ok
Mary: lol of course not, I can't buy those loubotins tomorrow if I would
Johnny: Do you know iTunesstore at Netherland
Go there or any supermarket, ultra mart and tell them you want to buy iTunes card $100
Mary: I don't use Itunes cards
Johnny: Just buy it for me I'm using it Mary.
Get it tomorrow for me
Mary: Oh but you can buy it online didn't you know?
Johnny: No don't have access my apple phone need a card so I have to redeem a card
Please get me the iTunes card tomorrow okay is just $100
Really feeling sleepy
Mary: Okay. goodnight
Johnny: Can you get it tomorrow
ITunes $100
Tell the workers there that you want to buy a iTunes card
Mary: You don't have access to your phone, so you don't need it
Johnny: Mary I can't buy it caused my phone applications need update
Don't you listen
I really need one please get it for me$100
Mary: I don't even know you yet why would I send you money. Your daughter can do that for you
Johnny: I wish she could
But she don't go out she stays with her nanny
Mary please get it for me tomorrow
Mary: FFS she's 17
Johnny: She don't know anybody there at England
She stays at home
And I haven't heard from her
Caused phone needs an update in all application
Mary get it for me tomorrow ok $100 iTunes
Mary: Who are you?
Johnny: I'm Jeff
Mary: No you're not
Johnny: Your kidding
I have to sleep
Just get me this card
Mary: https://support.apple.com/itunes-gift-card-scams
So I ask you again
Who are you?
Johnny: You went and read about that
Mary: Scammers always do that
Johnny: Mary does that make me one? I use Apple Xmas
And I used iTunes card to buy music and others things
So what are you saying?
Mary: That you are not Jeffrey
Johnny: I am Jeffrey stop all this do you know I'm old enough to born you I'm just broke here that's why I'm asking you to get it for me.
$100 iTunes doesn't make you insult an old man like me.
Mary: 😂
old man. I'm pretty sure you're not much older than 20
Johnny: Suit yourself
So will you send me the card
Mary: Will you tell me the truth
Johnny: Yeah can I called you
Mary: No, mom is around and she doesn't like me talking to strangers
Johnny: Go to your room
I like you Mary. And I'll love us to talk on WhatsApp
With my real face.
We would do video call anytime you want us to.
Mary: Send me a picture first
Johnny: I'll do that on WhatsApp
Mary: I'm not allowed to use that

Johnny: Don't share with anybody ok
Mary: Cute
So you're not jeffrey
what's your name
Johnny: Thanks but do you like it
I'm johnny
I'm from Nigeria I'm just telling you the truth caused I like you
And I'll love you to come and take me away from here please Mary.
I hate my country there's no job here
Mary: Ok, Nice to meet you Johnny
how old are you?
Johnny: Me too
I'm 19
Sorry I was trying to do this to you Mary I'm really sorry
Mary: wow
why did you?
Johnny: Your so beautiful.😭
Caused there's no money in Nigeria
No job no food
Mary: really?
Johnny: I decided to try and see if it will work out for me but you knew I was a Nigeria.
Mary: Nigeria isn't that in south america?
Johnny: You haven't heard about Nigeria?
Mary: I'm not very good at geography
Johnny: Mary please I want you to open WhatsApp don't allow your mom to know let's talk called anytime your free
I like you Mary
Mary: I don't know you yet and I just told you all kinds of things about me
Johnny: Really sorry
Mary: And I can't use whatsapp because my parents don't allow it and jack blocked that stuff from my systems
Johnny: How can we be talking now?
I want to blocked this email address
I don't want to continued this scamming things
Mary: give me your real one
Johnny: <email>
Mary: that doesn't say johnny
Johnny: Search it you'll see my name on it johnny

So, on to his personal account
Mary: hi
Johnny: Hi Mary.
Delete your conversation with the old email I have blocked you there.
I sign it out from my phone.
Mary send me your picture
Mary: I already did
Johnny: Take it now and send it for me
Mary: I'm not a circus monkey
Goodnight Johny
Johnny: I'm sorry if I pissed you off.
I love u Mary. Goodnight

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:44 am

October 11
[/color]Mary: good morning Johny
Johnny: Hi Mary how are you doing?
Mary: Hi. I"m fine, how are you?
Johnny: Hi I'm fine
How was your day?
Mary: It was ok
Johnny: Happy for you 😘
Mary I wish we could meet in person.
Mary: seriously? We don't even know eachother that well yet
Johnny: I know but you can't explained how I'm feeling for you
Mary: Why don't you try
Johnny: Try what
Mary: to explain
Johnny: I can't
What are you doing?
Have a nice day baby
💕❤💋💋💋💋
Mary: Thanks, you too
Johnny: Baby
Goodnight

October 12
Mary: good morning
Johnny: How are you doing
Mary: I'm fine
How are you?
Johnny: I'm doing thanks to God Almighty
Mary please why aren't you showing active ?
Mary: I don't know
Johnny: Ok
Mary: How is your day going
Johnny: Sweetheart it was awful
I wanna talk to you on phone called me tonight
Baby
Mary: What was so awful
I can't talk on the phone. My parents don't like me talking to strangers. I don't want them to find out
Tell me what happened
Johnny: Baby you know I love you right
Mary I've been starving all through the day I haven't eating since and right now I'm lying facing my stomach at the ground
Mary: That's not really a healthy habit
Johnny: 😭
How was your day
Mary: My day was fine. Dad took us out to dinner at the steakhouse
Johnny: Awwwn wish my day could be like yours
But I known someday I'll be rich and I'll get married to you take a flight down to Netherlands when I'm rich get a job there and married you
Mary: really?
wow
and you don't even know me yet
Johnny: Mary I love you
Where are you baby?
Mary: Home
Johnny: Where are you at home?
Mary: livingroom
Johnny: Sweetheart please send me a Pic of your lovely face.
Mary: you have it already
Johnny: Send another one take it now
I want you to be sending me a picture all day
Mary: What do you think I am?
A circus monkey?
😡
Johnny: No babe
Why will you say such a thing
Mary: cause I don't take no demands from nobody
Johnny: I'm sorry baby
Can you please send me a picture
Baby
😭
Mary: Now you pissed me on, so you don't deserve one
Johnny: you send yours first and I'll think about it
Mary I apologized about that I said I'm sorry 😭

Mary: That's a rude one
I don't like it
Johnny: Haha why
Mary: because of the middle finger
Now you pissed me on even more

Johnny: Sorry
Mary: How is that supposed to make me happy? You wanted me to make one for you and you just blow me off with random pics you have lying around
It would be nice if you made one especially for me
and a little sexy 😀
Johnny: Lying about what?
Mary: dammit you don't speak english
I mean it's a picture you made long time ago, not one you made for me now
Johnny: So are you sending your pictures
?
Mary: you still didnt make one for me
Johnny: Make one what?
Your English is different from mine baby
Make me understand
Mary: PICTURE
did your momma drop you on your head as a baby or are you pretending to be stupid?
Johnny: Stop insulting me Mary
Kids born in your country are perfect kids born here aren't that perfect
Beside nobody's perfect 😋
Mary: fine. you're not making a picture for me then?

Johnny: Is already late here baby is 10:09 PM
Mary: cute
it's 11:13 here
Time for bed
ttyl
Johnny: You mean I look cute?
Send me a picture before you go please

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:37 am

Oct 13
Johnny: Morning
Mary
Guess I'm bothering you
Mary: No you're not, I just haven't been online today
It was a long day and I'm tired. We'll talk tomorrow
Johnny: Ok
Omg I was really worried about my baby
Thou you left me here alone.

[color=blackOct 14
[/color]Mary: Of course not
How are you?
Johnny: I'm not fine
How are you
Mary: I'm ok
busy with some study projects
Johnny: Awwwn ok
Mary what are you doing now.
Mary: the study project
Johnny: Awwwn guess you can't talk to me
Spend time together
Mary: Not much now, maybe later today
Johnny: My phone is not longer good baby
Mary: Oh, sorry to hear that
Johnny: Baby can you help me get one and sent to me please😭
Mary: Why would I?
Johnny: Mary can't you help me?
Mary: I can but I don't know you all that well yet
Johnny: I understand I want us to know ourselves
But you said you don't call or do other things
You prefer typing
Mary: I can't when people are around because they can't find out about me talking to strangers
Johnny: I understand Mary
But I really have to get a new phone
Mary: ok
Johnny: Can you sent it to me here
Do you know how to do it
Mary: I can't send a phone on hangouts
Johnny: Are you here Mary.
Mary: I am, but dinner is ready so I have to go now
Johnny: Promise you'll be here
I want us to talk on phone
Bby
Mary: Hi
Johnny: Baby
I'm here now sorry was sleeping
Mary: that's ok. Almost time for me to do that
Johnny: Let's talk on phone
Before you sleep
Or talk before you sleep
Mary: we can talk here before I sleep
Johnny: Ok
Mary: what have you been doing?
Johnny: Sleeping
Caused there's nothing to do
Phone aren't good anymore
Mary: Mary how will you get this phone for me.
If you send me that phone from there custom will take it from me here baby or they'll arrest me or asked me to pay
Mary: I never told you I'd send you one
Johnny: Mary won't you help me get a new phone here ?
U know I don't have money
😭
Mary: I know you don't
Goodnight

Oct. 15
Johnny: Good morning Mary
Mary: Hi Johnny how are you?
Johnny: How are you doing Mary
You know I'm not fine and I know I'll be fine 😭
Mary: You're fine, just some problems with your phone
That won't kill you
I'd like to get to know you more better
Johnny: Asked anything
Mary: Where do you live exactly and what do you do all day?
Johnny: I'm from Nigeria I told you
I'm at delta state
Ain't doing anything just going out searching for job you know I can't be a lazy man sitting at home all day
Saw a job and they said before I'll start I have to paid them some money and I don't have any
My country is so bad and they are wicked
Mary: but they should pay you to work for them right?
Johnny: Yes but before I'll start I have to pay
Mary: that's stupid
Johnny: My country so bad can we call and talk on phone
Mary: It's after midnight, I'm going to sleep
Johnny: Spend time with me baby
What about the phone will you get one for me

October 16
Johnny: Hello
Mary: Hi
Johnny: Hi
Mary: How are you today?
Johnny: Are you using laptop or phone
Your slow
I'm fine ❤
Mary: wow, thanks for calling me slow
I can't have notifications on my phone because I told you my parents can't find out I"m talking to strangers. They wouldn't approve
Johnny: Mary I didn't insult you sorry if that's what your thinking
I mean you reply slow so I want to know if your using laptop or device
<missed call>
Johnny: Oops mistake
❤💋
Mary: I bet
Johnny: Can I call you please
Tell mom is a friend in Netherlands or a classmate
Mary: so you understand dutch?
Johnny: I'll love to learn dutch
Mary: But you don't speak it now so I can't call you now. They will be suspcious if I start having conversations in English. Next week mom will be gone a little more. I'll try to call you then
Johnny: Ooh please today😭😭
Mary: What the fuck did I just tell you?
I don't want them to cut off my internet connection
Johnny: Sorry
I know my sweetheart has been pissed off
But baby
Mary: I'm going for a haircut now. TTYL
Johnny: Send me a picture of your new haircut💋
Mary: Ok
Johnny: Take care my love❤
Mary: I'm back, how is your evening?
Johnny: Sweetheart was awful slept just woke up
Mary: sleeping doesn't sound too aweful to me
Johnny: Don't have anything to do
Wish this could be WhatsApp so I can send voice record 😭
Mary: I'm not allowed to use that
Johnny: I know my love
Mary: How are you doing today?
Johnny: I'm fine
How was your day
Mary: Boring
Johnny: Awwwn why
Mary: Busy with homework and that's boring
Johnny: Yeah I understand my love
Have you finish with home works
Mary: Yes for now
Johnny: Good
Sweetie what about the phone I don't you about
Mary: I thought I told you already
Johnny: I know you can't send it through hangout
Sweetie I don't want to stress you don't want you to mail it to my country caused I won't collect it custom won't allowed me to take it.
Mary: Why would I send aphone to someone I only know for a few days?
What's in it for me?
Just the risk of my folks finding out I'm talking to people I'm not supposed to talk to
Johnny: Mary
You known what I'm passing through😭
Mary: And how is that my responsibility?
Johnny: I know is not but you known I don't have money Mary😭
Mary: Did I ask you for money?
Johnny: You never did Mary
You known I'm poor and I know your laughing at me for that and is not my fault my country don't have money
Mary just send me $200 let me buy phone I don't have phone anymore😭😭😭 you know I'm poor don't have money to buy phone
Mary: You're being mean. I'm not laughing. I'm just saying that it's a big risk for me to send things. If my parents find out they'll cut off my internet
and 200 isn't enoug to get a phone. A somewhat decent one will be closer to 1000
Johnny: I understand but I can explained to you
Caused you don't understand here Mary.
Mary in your country phones are close to that amount
But in my country $200 can get me a big phone
Your money is bigger than our currency😭
Mary: still 1000 can get you a nicer one
Johnny: Mary that's a lot of money here please I can't take that from you
Mary: ok
Johnny: Mary please help me get the money so I can get a new phone or do you want to send me 1000
You know that's a lot in my country and I don't want them to disturb me asking me different questions.
Goodnight

October 17
Mary: How am I supposed to do that?
Johnny: Sweetheart you can send me the money so I'll get the phone okay
I'll tell you what to do when your free okay maybe this Saturday caused I know you won't be going to school I'll explained to you.
Mary: I'm never going to school. I'm homeschooled. TEachers come to me
Johnny: Wow.
The. That's mean you can send me the money so I'll get the phone this week baby
Mary: Okay, but I want to know if I can count on you
Johnny: Yes you can my love.
Mary: Really?
Johnny: Yes
Why?
Mary: Because I want to get away from here
Johnny: Mary you want to leave me?
Mary: No. I mean get away from home
Johnny: Ooh
You want to leave your family?
Because they treat you bad or what my love?
Mary: because it's like prison here
Johnny: Awwwn sweetie I understand you mean you want us to be together
Mary: Wasn't that what you wanted?
Johnny: Yes my love
You know we have to get a house here then and I don't have money to get a house.
Mary: Don't worry about that. I have more than enough
Johnny: Thanks for understanding baby
House cost a lot of money here I don't know how much it will be in your currency
Mary: ok, tell me how much
Johnny: I'm afraid to say it
How much do you have in your account baby
Let me check it in my currency
If it can get a house
Mary: Just say it
Or not, but I'm going to sleep now. We'll talk tomorrow
Johnny: Ok stayed with me baby
Goodnight my love I love you❤💋
Sweetheart your parents are not doing well why will they be locking you at home all day like a child sweetheart don't worry you'll love it here in my country and I'll do my best to put a smile on your face ok
❤❤❤💋

October 18
Mary: Thank you sweaty.
Johnny: Good morning my love❤
Mary: Good morning
Johnny: How are you baby?
Mary: I'm fine
Johnny: Teacher coming to meet you today?
Mary: He's here already
But I'm bored as fuck
Johnny: Have you eaten?
Sweetheart when is he going to leave you?
Awwn my love don't worry when your free let me know so I'll talk to you don't want you to be bored in that big house
I'm missing you now o
Hello my love.
Mary: Still busy with my homeworke
Johnny: Babe I'm missing you now
Hope the teacher have left you now your alone at home
Sweetheart
😭😭😭
Mary: Finished homework ok
Hi
how is your day?
Johnny: Sweetheart
Mary: hi. You didn't answer
Johnny: Baby I turn off data sorry
I'm here now baby
Mary: ok
Johnny: I miss you baby
Mary: I missed you too. I was hoping for you to make my lectures less boring, but you just left me
Johnny: Awwwn sweetheart forgive me for that I'm really sorry
I was waiting for you my love didn't you seen my message's
Mary: You said I should message you later, so I thought you didn't have time
Johnny: No I mean when your done with lectures you should text me
Sweetheart when are you planing to come here my love
Sweetheart don't tell me your not here 😭😭😭
Mary: I'm here mom came in. If she catches me chatting with an african they'll cut of my connection
Johnny: Ok
Baby you want us to talk later?
Mary: I'm here now right?
Johnny: Yes
Mary: What have you been doing all day?
Johnny: Sweetheart when are you planing to come here
Waiting for you sleep wake up check on you
Mary: you're never doing anything fun?
Johnny: Don't have money😭
Mary: I'll send you some
Johnny: Awwwn thanks baby
When will you send it?
Just can't wait for you to come here so I'll show you around a lot of white are here baby
Mary: I dont'know exactly when I can come but I don't like you suffering.
Send me your account details please
Johnny: I will send you someone account but I don't have an account yet that can. Recieved money from outside baby
How much do you want to send?
Mary: I'll send you just €1000. can you trust the one?
Johnny: Sweetheart is okay my love💋💋💋
Thank you so much
When will you send it baby
Mary: I can do it tomorrow
Johnny: Have you send money through western Union my love
They're going to asked a lot of questions
Mary: can't do that. they don't allow me to go there
Johnny: Who's going to do it my love
Sweetheart I wish to spend the rest of my life with you baby😭❤💋💋💋
Mary: I told you. I can transfer it to your account
Johnny: If you do that you'll screenshot it to me okay
Mary: if I send it to your account you'll be the one to receive it right?
Johnny: Sweetheart I just called the person he said if the money come here
They will asked questions and they might arrests he
He said he will give me an account in turkey I said no he said that's the only way but I trust he caused he helps people a lot so he said he will send me is turkey account
Sweetheart if you send it tomorrow on Monday the money will be given to me here 💋
Mary: ok
Johnny: But the way you want to do it is it through your phone ?
Mary: for banking things i go to the bank
Johnny: OK means you have to go to the bank tomorrow and do it sounds good
Baby can I tell you something
Mary: sure
Johnny: I want us to be together and spend the rest of our lives together
Mary: 🙂
I'd like that too
Johnny: I saw a house baby the house is 3.5m naira in my currency in your currency is close to €7000
But let's not talk about it now
We will talk about it when you want to come.
Mary: Wow, that's friggin cheap
Johnny: Sweetheart is not cheap
That's a lot of money
Sweetheart don't tell me houses are cost there at your country?
Mary: you really want to know? A normal family home will be close to €300.000,-. That's nothing fancy. our's is over 2 million, it's pretty big
Johnny: Omg
That's. A lot of money
Mary: my bathroom alone costs more than a whole house over there
Johnny: The one I'm telling you about is a family house but is a small portable house 6rooms
Omg
Sweetheart your family are very rich that's why they don't want you to be hurt
Mary: I guess so
Johnny: Sweetheart can you do me a favour
Please😭😭😭😀
Oh baby baby please😀
Mary: what's that?
Johnny: 😘
Send me a picture
Mary: I'll do that tomorrow. It's late, I'm not looking good right now
Johnny: Will you send me one?
Sweetheart you don't need to look good baby
I love you that's all I know even if your looking so weird I still love you
Sweetheart tomorrow is Saturday is that teacher coming to teach you again
Mary: No he won't be here tomorrow
Johnny: Thank goodness
Caused I want us to spend time together smile😀
Baby the bank will they be working tomorrow?
Mary: I guess so
but you didn't give me the information yet
Johnny: They'll send it to me my love
That's what I'm still waiting for
😘
Mary: Ok send it when you get it. I'm going to bed now
goodnight Johnny
Johnny: Awwwn baby😭
Is just 9:46pm here
I'm sure there is 10:47pm
Sweetheart I love you OK goodnight
😘😘😘😘💑
Sweetheart they have sent it to me
Here it is
<Turkish pork>
Sweetheart that's the account sent it there on Monday I'll have the money thank you baby sleep well dream about us

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:37 am

^^^ A "fresh new" Cats. Laughing

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:39 am

More like a really stupid Larry without a dime, and lazy as fuck. He did give me a cute collection of todger shots already (I won't post them, he has a bent d*ck, it's hideous) I'll send him in the church direction soon.

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:51 pm

I know it is ultimately the bank that determines fraud but where is the "line" here on Eater when it comes to reporting bank accounts? Initially this guy was using an extremely fake persona to scam you out of $100. Then he comes clean more or less and sends countless pics and requests for video chats etc. Obviously, his name may still be fake but has he not just morphed into a beggar at this point? Now he wants $200 begging for a phone which has increased to $1000 as per your suggestion. He wanted to use an initial mule who then referred him to another Turkey mule for which you now have some pork. I guess it is fine to report that to be on the safe side but if I worked for a bank I would just see that a young 19 year old Nigerian is trying to beg you for money for a phone and wants you to wire money to someone in Turkey to make it happen. Is that fraud? If he kept up with his original persona then I can see where fraud is happening but now that he has admitted to trying to scam you in the past he is now just a pathetic beggar. I expect to be slapped at this point but I invite it. The Turkey dude could be a relative or legitimate ITP and it would suck for his/her account to be shuttered because he is associated with a beggar which Eater doesn't bait. So my main question is this: if a baiter exposes a scammer and they come clean then do their future attempts to extract money from you fall into the beggar category? Should they just be dropped at that point versus reporting every single bank account associated with said begging?

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:40 pm

He's definitely a scammer, not a beggar, he's just changed his format to appeal to Mary. The whole needing-money-for-a-phone is just a ruse. And as for the mule bank account, shutting it down is the best possible outcome.

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:40 pm

Oh no, he is very much still a scammer, but now just not pretending to be someone else at this point. He was contacting his oga about the transfer slip issue (I know because he showed me a screenshot) and the way he uses the account is the way scammers do it. He's just low on the food-chain now and he is begging, like every romance scammer does. Playing the pity-card to get money.
So I ask you this question. Is it really possible that when someone insults you and treats you bad, you still fall in love with them after only 1 chat seesion? Lets say Mary isn't really lovable.
Larry was in the same situation. He was already outed by serreptitios, but he was still a scammer.

Mods, if you have any other ideas about this, please let me know.

October 19
Johhny: Good morning my love if you send the money don't forget to send the receipt ok
Mary: Good morning Johnny. I'll go to the bank in a little while
Johhny: Sweetheart are you here now❤💋
Mary: Yes I am
Johhny: Awwwn 💋
Where are you now baby? Please send me a picture I want to see your beautiful face.
Mary: <picture>
Johhny: Sweet
But I need a recent one baby smile and face me snap face the camera.
Mary: I need a sexy one Johnny
Johhny: Smile then take a recent one
Your already sexy enough baby
Mary: I mean I need a sexy one from you
😉
Johhny: Ooh
Let me check if I have a sexy one
I'm about to brush my teeth
Mary: No, make one
that's more better
Johhny: I want to brush when I brush I'll send ok
💋💋💋
Send me your new pic
I want you to look beautiful
Mary: I'm waiting
Johhny: Yeah OK send yours
Mary: still waiting

Johhny: Send me your pic 💋💋
I'm looking so awful haven't take my bath I'll send you a picture when I take my bath
Mary: Ok, then I'll wait for that. Send it before you get dressed. That's sexy. This is just cute 😉
Johhny: Thank you baby
Oh please send me yours
Mary: <picture>
Johhny: Is that really your pic
Is that a recent one
Mary: I just made it for you. I'm going to the bank now. Ahmed is waiting for me
Johhny: Send me a sexy one ok?
No clothes 😉

Who's Ahmed
Baby send me the receipt of the money you send ok they send I should show them receipt
Mary: All of you, not just the top part 😉
Ahmed is our driver
Johhny: Omg🏃🏃🏃
I believed your in the bank now right
Sweetheart my tongue hurts 😭
Mary: Where's the picture you were gonna make for me?
Johhny: Sweetheart I'm dressed up already when you asked for itm
It.
How was your day?
Mary: Hm. disappointing. I'm pretty sure I told you before that
Johhny: Alright forgive me baby
I'm really sorry
Mary: Then do something about it
Johhny: Babe
I'll do it but not now please
Mary: hmm
Johhny: You want a picture of my d** or what?
Is that what you mean sexy my love?
😭😭😭
I have one but I took it at night
Is that sexy too?
<some downloaded picture from the back of a guy with a towel wrapped around his butt>
I'm worried about you now.
😭😭😭
😭😭😭
Imt really getting worried baby😭
Mary: Yes that is what I mean with sexy and you're sending me a downloaded picture and don't think for a second that I don't know it
Johhny: I was asking if that's what you mean my love
If you need that I'll send you okay
Mary: not that downloaded picture
Johhny: No sweetheart
Babe
Did you sent the money today?
Mary: Did you already send me that picture?
Johhny: No babe😭
I said I'll send it
You know I'm not leaving alone
Alright tell me how you want the pic to look like💋
I'll do that for you
Mary: I told you. Make it sexy. I want to know if you're up to pleasing a woman 😉
Johhny: Babe
Mary: cutee
Johhny: I'm sorry I disappoint you😭
Sweetheart you know that's very risky and I won't be comfortable doing that but if you insist I'll send it
Mary: You promised
Johhny: Yes and I'll send it okay
Baby didn't you sent the money
Mary: You ask me things while you didn't even do what you promised
Johhny: You want it now?
Mary: Of course
Johhny: I'm not alone here
Let me go inside
<downloaded picture of a dude with a huge boner>
Please don't show anyone😭😭😭
Mary: That's not yu
goodbye Johnny
Johhny: Mary
OK I'm scared
Mary: 😡
Johhny: I'll send
Baby can you video call me let me show you something
Or should I go to the bathroom?
Baby you here
I swear to God who made me this one is mine 🙁
<picture>
Mary: Cute, but how is that supposed to convince me that you know what to do with it?
I can't even see your face and it's not ready for action
Johhny: <picture>
Yeah is not ready baby how will it be ready when your not here
<picture>
<picture>
Mary: Still can't see all of you
🙄
Use a mirror for cryin out loud
Johhny: We don't have a big mirror babe expect you want a selfie.
Mary: yup
Johhny: <picture>
<picture>
Babe don't laugh what your seeing there just wait when you get here I'll used it on you
I believed you are going to suck it so hard?
Mary: Cute n sexy. I'll wait till tomorrow and you'll make it with better light and then I'm going to tell you everything I'm going to do with it
Johhny: What do you want to do with it?
Mary: What kind of question is that?
Johhny: Sorry
At least I have made you happy with that baby
Now is my turn send me yours so I'll be happy as well make it sexy tonight
Sweetheart you have to open a bank here once you get here with your name baby caused you can't redraw all your money here in Nigeria caused is not possible but we will do something about it ok
Mary: I'm not home now. I'm at a party
Johhny: If your here you can't redraw money from there with that credit
Mary: But you owe me one with good light
I sent the money earlier today, like I promised
Johhny: Send me your picture take it now at the party
Thanks baby but I'll have to prove it to them with receipt
Yes I'll send in the one with light tomorrow💋
Mary: Thank you cutee
looking forward to that.
Wait, I'll go to the restrooms now to make a picture
Do the bank not make a receipt to you?
Without receipt I can't get this money my love😭😭😭
Mary: <mary's picture>
Sorry, the light is bad and I came across benny on my way so it took a while longer
Johhny: Sweetheart you look so beautiful
But is that really you
Mary: Who else?
Johhny: You look super hot
Sweetheart I just can't wait to have you here.
Mary: I can't wait to get out of here and be with you
Johhny: Babe
Mary: 😘
Johhny: I need the receipt of the money you sent
Or else I can't get the money
Mary: Oh, but I don't have that
I thought you said he's your friend
Johhny: We need a receipt baby
So he will show the bankers
Mary: My name is on the transfer so he'll recognize it easily
Johhny: Omg babe we need this receipt
😭😭😭😭
Mary: what are you saying?
That the money is lost?
Fuck
Johhny: Listen baby
Can't be lost.
Tell them to make a receipt for you my love
Go to the bank and let them give you a receipt of the transfer
The bank will tell us to show them receipt payment if not they won't give us money 😭
Sweetheart say something
Omg😭
Don't get drunk there at the party please
Dad &mom let you go for a party
Hello babe

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:12 pm

So if he's "not pretending to be someone else at this point" as Linoline put it then he is no longer blatantly attempting to commit identity fraud. Trying to scam under that prior false identity is definitely fraud. Any accounts he gives you during his time trying to scam you as that persona should be reported. Fair game. My opinion is that once he admitted to trying to pass himself off as someone else but then comes clean it "resets the clock". He can beg and beg at that point but unless one of his lies turns into another illegal action like Cat's attempt(s) to extort money to care for a sick mommy by providing obviously fake invoices then all requests for money are just a beggar's dream. I'm just asking questions. It is obvious that he is up to no good but my concerns are more around when it is and is not appropriate to report piggies. Had he provided the Turkey account while still under the initial false persona then by all means report. After that he admitted to his bullshit and just started begging. At that point I wouldn't report piggies from him until he started fabricating dead relatives or other types of excuses. In my opinion he has admitted to being a lad and is just begging. Nobody knows whether or not he really needs a new phone or if he would buy one if the money was actually sent (none will).

Whatever. I don't care. These baits are fun but love lad stuff sometimes borders on the "beggar" policy here from what I've read Eater rules. I couldn't care less if you bait them all into oblivion but I'd be cautious about reporting accounts when they are in a beggar mode. The bank will do what it needs to do but from what I understand it took a lot of work on behalf of the founders of this site to build enough trust to directly report to them. They care about unobjectionable fraud. Reporting for a random West African begging for stuff shouldn't interest them. I'm stopping here as I should have opened a thread in HH&T. Carry on.

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:38 pm

The individuals and groups that we bait are criminals. Sociopathic, cruel, dangerous and heartless; they would steal money intended to pay for medicine for children and have victims mortgage themselves into homelessness.

Once they have been identified as scammers there is no reset. They are scammers. Scammers will play all kinds of games if they have been exposed as long as they can continue to work a con.

On my church application form there is a question asking what their biggest sin was. I often wondered what I would do if the lad answered that it was advance fee fraud and he was going to change his ways (after he received $10,000.00USD). None did.

I have been very tempted to tell a lad that his image or ID was stolen off the internet or photochoped and I understood why he wanted to keep himself safe. I never did because it would have educated him. (If it was good enough to fool a victim, I would howl that it was a fake.) I would just tell him OK, the image did not download properly, but we have to conclude this as the wealthy donor wants results and moved on with the bait. After a few forms and the prospect of lots of money I could get the scammer to submit real trophies.

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:06 pm

bikeatl77 wrote:

These baits are fun but love lad stuff sometimes borders on the "beggar" policy here from what I've read Eater rules.

Put simply, here is the difference.

A beggar is someone straight up begging for money without lying and without asking under false pretenses.

For example: someone named James really needs money to attend school and he sends you a note saying, "Hi, I'm James, I need money for school." They're not scamming. They are begging.

What linoline's lad, and other lads like him are doing is different. They're running a scam I call the "confessional" and it has a format as clear as any other format such as recovery, gold or other scams.

It goes like this... You're running a military (or some other romance) scam on your victim and after you get all of the money you can from her (or you are otherwise exposed) and the con is finished, the way you can continue it is to "confess" yourself. You have been lying to her, but in the course of that lie you fell in love and are compelled to reform your ways. If only you can get some assistance with your needs, you will never have to scam any more.

Lads discuss this format in telegram and whatsapp chatrooms as a way to reboot a dying scam. It is just another con. He is not starving. He is not living in a place of "no food". Obviously, he's on his phone scamming all day, likely doing relatively well financially, and dressed reasonably well.

That's the difference.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:05 am

Just to back up what Connie and Padme were saying - here's an example of a romance scammer making the shift from romance to asking for help to outright begging when rumbled.

https://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2138180

What you don't see in the chat is that he was still scamming while begging - he accidentally copied Cammy on a scam email.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:37 am

Definitely a scammer in my opinion – wait for the lies to start in an attempt to get money – he’s already going down the fictional “broken phone” route. Meanwhile, he’s merrily taking cock shots on that “broken phone”. The “young and dumb” ones break cover early

As for Turkish pork – it’s up to the bank in question to investigate the account, and decide whether or not to take action. It does not nor cannot be reported as proven fraud, that is for the law to decide. What it does, is to report it for “suspicious activity”, after that, it’s up to the bank

We are not judge and jury, nor do we set out to be – there are doubtless thousands of cases of suspicious activity on credit cards, debit cards, and bank accounts every day. Many are looked at and ignored, while others are looked and further action is taken – all we are doing by reporting these accounts is suggesting where they should look

There’s an old saying – “Kill them all and let God sort them out”. What we do is “Report them all and let the banks sort them out” …..

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:40 pm

The "con-fessional," as Padme has termed it is a recognized continuation of a scam, not begging.

It would be difficult to find it put more succinctly:

Dotti wrote:

The truth is, if he confesses he will just tell more lies, and he is not going to feel guilty. To a scammer, your whole relationship has been a business transaction. He learned a long time ago to see victims as nothing more than a source of money, no matter how much he pretends to care. When you point out what he has done wrong, he will learn from your information and will make his scam more believable next time. If you point out that his current name and email are posted, he will create a new fake identity, and the victim who googles his new name won’t find the important evidence that he is a scammer.

Link

Let's add some real life evidence found with a simple Google search:

Quote:

The loved ones usually confront the scammer with the true names of the person in the picture. The scammers are ready. They usually “confess” that they lied about their name (and lifestyle), but come up with enough excuses about why they lied. They usually tell the victim now that they have their “real name” that they feel a sense of relief and can be more “honest” with the victim, and so on. To a person, in my experiences, the victim believes them, and still stays in love.

Quote:

Eventually she confronted her Nigerian lover with accusations of being a fraud, saying she had found verbatim texts of the notes he had sent to her in collections of common romance scam forums. He protested, of course, and grew angry, all while still insisting on his need for the money.

“You are doing this to yourself,” he wrote. “You don’t know when true love is in the air. You don’t know when people really mean something. When people really feel real love. Maybe it’s because you have been hurt too many times. Don’t let the internet mess with your head...”

...And yet for some reason she maintained the illusion, even after all that.

Quote:

This time, Daniel Joseph Okechkwu confesses. He claims it's the first romance scam he's ever pulled and that he has been forced to do it because of the closure of his barber shop.

He sounds sincere and he apologises for the way he has treated us.

Our catfish says he wants to stop being a romance fraudster. But he needs us to give him money, so that he can afford to stop tricking other people out of their cash.

It's a classic catfish twist. They never give up on the scam even when they have been rumbled.

Quote:

In another variation, the scammer “confesses” he is part of a scam to bilk people out of money, but insists he has fallen in love with the victim. The victim is often all too willing to believe him. A few have even accepted invitations to travel to Nigeria or another country, with frightening results. As the FBI puts it, “Victims who have agreed to meet in person with an online love interest have been reported missing, or injured, or in one instance, deceased.”

Quote:

"I got a complete confession out of him," she said. "I was going to take it to police. He said he had been stalking me on Facebook for a long time, but he knew I wouldn't talk to him because he was black. That's why he used your picture. He said yes, I've been posing as this guy. And he said, 'I did it because I knew you wouldn't talk to me.'"

"He'd come back, and he tried to lie his way out of it. But, I'm like 'No, I've got these pictures. You are not who you say you are. He is Scott Swan. He's a news anchor,'" she told the scammer. "He kept saying, 'If you leave me I'll starve to death because I don't have any money.' He said I won't be able to buy my medicine. I got him an apartment, and he wouldn't be able to pay for his apartment. He begged me, begged me, begged me to send him some more cards. And, I said 'No, I'm not sending you any cards.'"

Quote:

(S)cammers have constructed elaborate networks of accomplices, colloquially known as money mules, in countries like the US that have good reputations for the rule of law.

In many instances, these accomplices were once victims themselves. “At first it might be people thinking, ‘If I play ball, I can get some of my money back,’” says Ralph Gagliardi, a special agent with the Colorado Bureau of Investigation who has worked on several romance-scam cases. “But then they get turned by the lure of easy money.” A prime example of how victims can transform into conspirators is the case of Karen and Tracy Vasseur, a mother-daughter duo from Brighton, Colorado. In 2009 the freshly divorced Tracy was conned by a Yahoo Boy who claimed to be a soldier in Afghanistan. On realizing she’d been deceived, Tracy volunteered to help her scammer by pretending to be an “agent” who specialized in relaying funds to American military personnel. She and her mother eventually pled guilty to participating in the theft of $1.1 million from 374 victims in 41 countries; they were sentenced to a combined 31 years in prison.

I could go on and on...but, they're still a lad.

As for “Report them all and let the banks sort them out,” do not send in bank accounts that do not come from a lad. Eater worked hard to set our system up and gain the trust of banks. While we merely point banks to accounts for investigations, too many false leads will harm our reputation. Make damn sure they are coming from a lad, not just randomly found.

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:33 pm

Padme, Connie and Bware, thanks for the extra explanations! I was convinced that this lad is still a lad even if he's pretending now not to be one, but I couldn't have explained it like you did.

Back to our lad, with a bent dick. Really. You do not want to see that... so I'll spare you.

October 20
Mary: Hi
Johnny: Hi baby
Babe😭
You know we can't lost that €1000 please go to the bank meet the person that did the transaction or anyone else explained things to them that you need the transaction receipt without this the bank manage won't agreed and I can't have this money my love😭
Sweetheart
Hello baby
Did you went to church?
Mary: I can't go to the bank now. It's Sunday they're closed
And you made me a promise remember
Johnny: Yeah I know not today
Yes I remember baby
What are we going to do now? How will you get this receipt
Mary: Everything is digital, they never give it
Johnny: What's digital ? Make me understand
Mary: On computers
You didn't yet do what you promised today
Johnny: They were suppose to give it to you tell them you want an receipt except if not I won't have the money 🙁
Mary: They'll send it to the account you gave me, so what do you mean you won't get it
Johnny: Where are you right now.
When you sent the money did they give you any paper?
<screenshot from his friends chat with a screenshot from our chat visible>
<2 dick pics>
Mary: Why the fuck are you sending screenshots of our chats to other people?
😠
Johnny: <He showed mary's picture from the other day>
Aren't you wearing anything there
Mary: And don't make me tell you again that you have to make a full picture of you, use a mirror but I want to see that it's you
Johnny: No I'm telling you what the man who's getting the money is telling me baby
Mary: I know but you sent him a screenshot of our chat
Johnny: Sweetheart is me I told you we don't have a big mirror so how do you want me to do it
Hold on
Mary: I don't like that
Johnny: I'm sorry
Mary: What about this one
Johnny: <picture>
Mary: How is that sexy?
I'll explain again
Clothes off, ready for action, in front of a mirror
Johnny: Babe we don't have a big mirror understand me please
Mary: Not that difficult
Find a solution
Johnny: I know but we don't have a big mirror
Mary: Then you'll ask someone else to make the picture
Johnny: Let me go to the bathroom then I'll do a video
Mary: I like your ideas
Johnny: About what
Send me yours let me see too I want sexy things
Sweetheart
<video of his weener (with a bend in it, seriously) dangling around>
Baby
What are you doing now
Mary: I can barely see a thing, that's way too friggin dark
Johnny: Sweetheart please let's talk something else.
I can only do that inside toilet
And everyone's here

Even the rooms people are there that's why I went to the toilet baby😭😭😭😭
Mary: 😞
You promised
Who are they?
Johnny: My family
Whenever I'm all alone I'm gonna do that for you my love
Don't be sad baby
Mary: I am because you broke your promise and I don't like that
Johnny: I'm sorry
Where are you baby?
Mary: I'm home, mom wants me to go have tea at the bridge club
Johnny: Send me your pic
😵
Sexy one.
I don't wanna go
Johnny: Awwwn you want us to spend time together

You back
Babe
Didn't you go with phone
😭💋💋❤💕😋
Hi
Johnny: hi Johnny
Mary: Hi sweetheart
Johnny: Hi Johnny
How are you
Mary: Disappointed
Johnny: Why
I known you're and your not even bothering about the €1000
I've been thinking all day
Mary.
Mary: I have shoes more expensive than that but you didn't do what you promsied
Johnny: Sweetheart
I promise and I'll do it
But not today please is already 8:47pm and everywhere is dark.😭
Sweetheart €1000 doesn't mean anything to you but to me it means a lot please get this receipt ok
Mary: If you get me what you promised before the afternoon then I will go to the bank tomorrow afternoon
I promise I'll baby
Once you do what I'm telling you now. Is already late here and how I wish we have a big mirror I'm gonna send you a picture that clearly show it 😉❤💕
Mary: I know it's late and dark but tomorrow morning it's early and light, so I don't see the problem. You can find a solution
Johnny: Sending you something
Baby are you here
Mary: I'm here but I'm tired
Johnny: Please promise me something baby
That your going to the bank in the afternoon or morning
I did a video and I used a touch to video sending it to you but is loading
That's kind of clear Right?
<picture>
Mary: Kind of, but it's still not showin all of you
Johnny: Please just take that one I'll send full one when I'll buy a full mirror
Mary: Ok, you don't want me to go to the bank tomorrow.
Noted
Goodnight
Johnny: Baby
Please understand me..
Please go to the bank please😭😭😭
I've tried my best in this but you never seen to appreciate what I'm doing can't you see that I'm trying how I wish we had a big mirror I would have done that. I swear to God who made me baby
😭😭😭😭
Please go to bank my love
For my sake
Let me at least have fun buy some clothes I don't wanna wear old clothes anymore I wanna look good for you

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:25 pm

At least let me have fun? What a scumbag. Evil or Very Mad

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:13 pm

Perhaps instead of having fun buying new clothes he could get his bent todger sorted out with the money.

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:04 am

I see no reason why wearing that floral jacket will ever haunt him in the future Twisted Evil

he's so forked! A bet the bathrooms at the bus station have full length mirrors he can use to snap his bendy straw. He might as well pre pay for a ticket cuz this lad is probably going on a little trip soon Laughing

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:35 pm

October 21
Johnny: Seems you're avoiding me
Mary: I was sleeping
Johnny: Hello baby
Good morning😥
Mary: Hi
How are you today?
Johnny: I'm doing good
Just reminding you baby
Mary talk to me please
I sent a pic baby please that's all I can do about the picture there's no big mirror in the house
Sweetheart please they're bothering me telling me I fooled them that someone wants to send me money please get the transaction receipt okay let the bank give you the slip
<the same turkish pork>
That's the account you sent the money to show the bank okay
Please get it for me. And slap it to me
Mary: That's still not the one you promised. Are you really not understanding it or are you just playing games with me?
I'll explain it one more time:
1. No clothes
2. Ready for action
3. Sexy pose
4. Show all of you
It's not that hard
Johnny: Sweetheart why will I be playing games with you.you know I can't do that
I understand what you mean but there's no big mirror please understand me.
We don't have money to afford big mirror you know I'm poor why you doing this to me😥😥😥
I tried and tried to make you happy and understand but you don't want to understand me because I don't have money Mary I love you so much 😥😥😥
Mary: I'm not doing anything. I love you and I want to be with you but it looks like you're just fooling me. You can't even do this one simple thing for me and I want to make your life better
😢
Johnny: Sweetheart I'm not fooling you
Please don't cry
😥😥😥
I just want you to understand me and I'm honest with you.
I can do whatever you want me to do but I wish we have a big mirror in our house but no money to buy it baby I swear to God who made me
I won't lie to you
Mary: You don't even know how to take all your clothes off.
So How do you expect me to believe that you'll do whatever I want you to do?
I was quite clear with my request
Johnny: I'll baby
Whatever you want me to do.
But I take risk to do that and if I do it in toilet everywhere will be dark
I don't know if you understand me
Why you doing this to me😥
Mary: I'm not doing anything to you. You're the one breaking your promise
Johnny: Sweetheart can I call you?
Let me explained more better?
I know I break my promise baby
Sweetheart aren't you going to get this receipt?
Wish there was big mirror here 😥
Sweetheart don't allow this €1000 to lost I beg you please we only have today to get the receipt so money will be delivered to us.😥😥😥
I love you😥
They're warning me caused of the receipt I didn't get for them😥 sweetheart please get this receipt for me
I can't lie or fool you my love caused I care so much about you and I love you so much
I'm hurt baby💔
Mary
My love my sunflower my everything my world are you here
Mary: If it really was that important to you you'd do as you promised.
Johnny: I'm trying here's one but there's no mirror to take a big one please understand me
Last one.
<picture>
Mary: Too dark, not sexy
Do I really need to repeat the steps again?
1. No clothes
2. Ready for action
3. Sexy pose
4. Show all of you
5. Make sure there's some light
🙄
Johnny: That's what I'm telling you baby
The only way I can do this is in a hotel they have big mirror there why don't you want to listen to me
I'm trying my best but you never seen to appreciate me all you tell me is that I'm fooling you and your making me cried 😥
Everywhere I go in the house everyone is there the only place I can have privacy is in the toilet please understand me my love
Mary: Go outside. Where's your sense of adventure. Find a place where nobody is around.
Johnny: Every I go people are there
We are in a rentage house face to face compound I swear to God I can't lie to you😥
I can only do this in a hotel and I don't have money to go to hotel
Mary: Bathroom at a friends place?
You're only giving me excuses
Johnny: Sweetheart
Why you doing this to me
Now you said I'm giving you excuse and i have been sending you image of sexy
Mary: Why are YOU doing this?
If that's sexy then I'm a goat
😠
Johnny: I'm trying my best but you never seen to appreciate me
Mary: I do but you don't do as promised
Johnny: Alright you send me a sexy picture my love
Mary: I'm not doing anything until you did what you promised
Johnny: Yes I'll do as I promise and I'm trying and we don't have a mirror that'll show my full image
Now I know you don't love me you really made me cried today Mary I've send and send naked picture all you do is complained all because I'm poor I tho you said you don't like me suffering now you're the one suffering me
What have I not done baby I tried and tried to give you a sexy picture all you do is tell me I'm not sending good picture caused I'm poor
Is okay I know someday I'll be rich just as you're
You failed your promise also
😥😥😥
Mary God know I'm trying my best but you don't ever appreciate anything I do. You just tell me you need another I have send more than 7pic of me naked but you haven't send me one I tho you love me and you want to be with me baby all day we don't talk spend time with each other because of sexy picture.
Passing through a lot here don't have good food to eat eat once in a day sometimes don't eat
Starve still the next day
You said you want to come let's be together have our own house but now you don't treat me better how I wish you know all what I'm passing through baby
I love you Mary I love you and that's why I want us to be together
God is my witness he know I'm trying real hard baby
I adoré's you baby
I love you so much
I love you too and what you're saying is mean. I don't do this because you're poor but because I need to know that you are the kind of man that can handle a girl like me and give me what I need. If you can't even make a simple picture, what use is it for me to try to get away here and go through all the trouble of traveling to africa? You do realize that if I do that and they find out I'm dead right? When I come I have to bring all my savings, because I most likely can't go back.
Mary: You see what I'm going to give up for you and you complain about this little thing I ask of you?
Not fair
Johnny: Sweetheart
I understand I can take good care of you to God who made me knows I can
I'm just thinking where I can go and take this picture the only place I know is a hotel room and there services cost a lot of money if you send me this money I'll go to the hotel and take a lot of sexy picture
If I don't do that press charges against me that I stole your money let them arrest me
You know I'll never hurt you
Muuuuah💕
😘
My wife are you here?
Mary: You're turning things around again. You made a promise. It's your responsibility to fulfil it, not mine
Johnny: I'll but how
When there's no big mirror
How will I fulfil this promised
Babe where can I get this full picture of me
Mary: At a friends house
or ask someone to help you

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:11 pm

October 22
Johnny: You can't help me ?
If someone could help me will I. Be here ? I would have been working
Now your turning your back away from me all because of picture I tho you love me and want to be with me
Mary: Yes I do
Johnny: You act like you don't love me baby and it makes me cry I'm just sad if I can have that big mirror I would have send all the picture but you now think I'm joking about it
Sweetheart I want you to tell me the truth did you send the money?
Mary
Here in my country we don't used big mirror except the rich people they use big mirror and the big mirror is in Hotel
I don't know how I'll do that I have send so many picture does that not show you that I'm trying to send the full picture but you don't want to listen
You called me a liar that I give excuse
Sweetheart I'm trying please if you want me to send the full picture is in a hotel room and I have to pay money for service and I don't have money send me the €1000 you promised I'll do what you want me to do let's act matured here baby
Read carefully and you'll understand me caused I don't have money to buy big mirror if you want me to show you the mirror we used here I can show you.
I love you Mary
Not going anywhere until you answer me baby
Mary: You're just giving me excuses. I'm sure you can find a way
It makes me sad that you don't want to
Johnny: Yes the way I can is the hotel baby
Trust me
I won't lie to you but I see you don't trust
If I don't want to send it to you I won't have been sending my naked photos why don't you think about it
Subscription will soon be over I only subscribe for 2weeks now I dont know when I'll come here again
Have a nice day baby
Poor me
😥😥😥
Mary: Poor you
I have sent you the money, didn't your friend receive it by now?
Johnny: They need a receipt to claim the money on the bank
That's what I'm telling you my love you need to go to the bank and tell them to give you a receipt of the transaction of the money you sent.
Get the receipt from the bank ok
Sweetheart when are you coming so we could be together
Mary: I already told you that there is no receipt because everything is digitalized at the bank these days. Save the planet and all that. Save paper, save trees. Your friend should see my name on his bank statement when the money arrives, so he has to be able to confirm
Johnny: Sweetheart no bank there used receipt they most do received before I get the money
Mary: you need to ask him if he has received money from an account with my name on it
Johnny: Sweetheart that's what you don't understand
Money sent from Nigeria to Nigeria we can see alert yes is impossible
But from another country to here is impossible they'll asked for receipt
Mary: But it's sent to your friends account in turkey. They get alerts when money is transfered to their account from another country
Johnny: We need it here in Nigeria so they want us to give them receipts
Mary: Why?
Johnny: Caused that's how it works here
Mary: THey see my name on the transfer when the money gets to their account. You tell them my name
simple as that
Johnny: You don't understand me
Can I call you
So I'll explained more better
Babe.
Try and tell them you want a transaction receipt without that money can't be collected here.
Goodnight my Angel💕

October 23
Mary: But the money is sent to a Turkish account, so your friend in Turkey needs to collect it and send it to you
Johnny: The person that owns the account is here in Nigeria
He said without receipt he can't collect it😥
Mary: This doesn't make sense at all
Johnny: The money you sent didn't go straight to my friend account my love he said it was his colleague account that he sent to me because he is having problem with his.
And now the only prove we have to show to his friend that you sent the money is with that teller
My dad has been to Netherland and when he send money to my mom he always send us bank receipt there is no bank in the world that doesn't give receipt
2 days back I went to the bank with my friend. We stayed there all day hoping to hear from you but you didn't come online to write me or tell me anything. We were so embarrassed by the securities thinking as if we were criminals that went to rob the bank
Mary: lol. Your family is poor and you expect me to believe your father was in the Netherlands.
I'm going to the bank and try to get my money back because this all looks a bit too fishy for me
Johnny: My dad is a retired Air Force we use to have it all until things changed for us. My mom started hawking things on the street, I stopped going go school because there was no money for my parents to pay school fees. You can't help someone from your heart and then went back to say you are taking your thing back. If you want to help me then that's fine but if you don't that's also fine. I can't remain poor like this forever. I know you are a kindhearted person Mary and you will go to the bank to get the receipt please just do it for me I really need the money real fast to help my family with it and God will reward you as you do so
Mary: oh honey, I have some time to spare today so I'll go there. Don't you worry
Johnny: Thanks for understanding me baby
Can I call you on phone?
Let me tell you something my love
Mary: Oh, tell me please
Johnny: Can I call you then.
Mary: I'm not alone right now
Johnny: Where are you and who's there with you baby?
Mary: home. My tutor is here
Johnny: Take a picture
Mary: wow. courtesy is dead
Johnny: Mary I just can't explain the way I love you. My main purpose in life is to make you happy
I have a surprise for you this Christmas
Something you would find hard to believe
Mary: Really? What is it?
Johnny: Sweetheart is a surprise I can't tell you if I tell you it won't be a surprise anymore smile.
Mary: hmm. I don't like surprises
Johnny: Trust me on this one you'll 💕😘
Mary: Then tell me
Johnny: Don't you understand the word surprise my love😘😘😘
Mary: I do, but you want to make me unhappy. I told you that I don't like to wait for surprises
Johnny: You here...
Mary: I'm here
Johnny: Aren't you going to do the bank.
Hello my sunshine.
Mary: I've been there already
You worry too much
Johnny: Yeah about you
So tell me how did it go?
Mary: It was fine, they told me they'd get my money back
Johnny: When?
Can't they make the transaction receipt?
Means you have to go and send it using a bank that'll give you a receipt baby.
Mary: That whole situation you tried to explain makes me really nervous. Your nigerian friend has a Turkish account with someone elses name on it and they can't see when money arrives in the account. Sounds like some bad setup
Johnny: No baby
Let me explained more better.
The person that owns that account stayeds at turkey and any money been sent to he he asked for receipt all the time caused it kind of look like western Union ok and once he have the receipt he will send it to a friend here in Nigeria then he will collect it and give it to me.
If you don't have receipt means nobody sent money to you they can take your money that's how they do things here and there at turkey
They always need receipt in anything they're doing.
Mary: Sounds like your friends are crooks
Don't you have an account yourself? Or that friend who has a Nigerian account you just mentioned?
Johnny: They are not my friends
Mary: But you said I should send it to your friends account and then you gave me that Turkish account
WTF, you make me send money to a complete stranger? Are you a moron?
Johnny: You can't send money to Nigeria account caused they will asked how did he got it and they'll arrest he caused is not safe.
Sweetheart calm down let me explained
The person staying at Turkey was here in Nigeria is family is here is a to my friend brother so once he got the money he'll sent to his father who's a air force also
I tried to open a western Union account so money could come in from anywhere but they said I need a ID card don't have one yet
Nothing is done free here in my country
You have a long day baby hope you have taken a shower and your resting as we speak.
Let me call you on hangout put phone on silent so it won't ring ok
Mary: But if that person from the Turkish account sends the money to the Nigerian account, Why can't I send it to the Nigerian account, because you know that person and he is not a crook like the one from the Turkish account.
You're stressing me out
Johnny: Okay you can take the money back from the turkey account right.
Once you take it I'll tried and send another one someone who's staying here but if you want to send it here you'll have the receipt of the money you sent here my love
Sorry I'm stressing you out.
😘💕
Is my love here with me
Mary: Yes I'm here. You're giving me a headache with all those friends and crooks. I'm glad you're not one of those
Johnny: Yeah baby I'm not one you have change me a lot
Sweetheart when are you coming over here
Mary: When I have the chance
Dad has to be on a business trip. That's the only moment I have the chance to get out on my own
Johnny: Wow...when?
Can't wait to have you here.
Mary: I don't know. He never tells me in advance
Johnny: Okay babe if you come are you going back?
When do they tell you to come and take your money from the bank?
Mary: They told me they'd send a message
Johnny: Ok so how will you send me the money with a transaction receipt
Don't you know any other bank.
Mary: I have one bank. I tought you were going to send me your nigerian friend's account
Johnny: I have to find someone I can trust
But that turkey account a lot of people used it and received there money if you can send it there you have to make sure they give you an account baby caused that's what people are using to
Mary: You said you know someone
😵
Johnny: Yes they're a lot but you have to trust someone'
Without trust things don't work out
Mary: He was a crook, that one from the Turkish account
Dammit. You're driving me insane
Johnny: I trust that turkey account if you have the receipt by now the money would be giving to me
Sorry about that sweetie
Let me just find someone else and give it to you ok
😘
😘😘😘😇💑😉
Talk later
Mary: Earlier you said you don't trust the turkey account, that they don't want to give you the money and now you say you trust them. Do you have a nigerian account or not?
Johnny: You here baby
Mary: Yes I am
Johnny: My love
Sweetheart is there western Union there at your country or money gram?
I'll give you a detail but you'll have to take transaction receipt after sending money if they don't give receipt don't send ok

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Sorry - accidental double post

Elite Baiter Joined: 28 Mar 2015 Posts: 1916

Doesn't Johnny have a timer on his phone camera?
He gets prepared, props the camera at the right height for a full body pic, sets the timer, clicks the shutter, rushes into position, then... Bob's your uncle.

🤑

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Do African clothing shops not have changing rooms with full legth mirrors? Couldn't Johnny pop into one and pretend to try on a pair of trousers or somethig to get Marry the photographs she so wants? Confused

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:55 am

Sure.. there are options, but I've seen enough of his weiner and Mary has some other plans now, so let's move on.

For anyone still questioning whether he's still a scammer or not, this part of chat should be able to convince you that he's a huge scumbag

October 24
Mary: I already told you that I'm not allowed to use Western onion
Don't you ever listen to what I tell you?
Johnny where are you?
Johnny: Oh I'm here baby
Sorry I wasn't here
I'm stress out
I was searching for the account didn't see one and then started searching for job but didn't see I'm just tired and you can't send me money without receipt
Just go to bank explained to them that you want to send money to someone and you'll need the transaction receipt after sending money to me tell them they'll make one for you
Send to the Turkey account baby😥
Sweetheart go to another bank and sent the money to the Turkey account make sure you have a receipt of the money you sent
I miss you
Mary: I don't have another bank. I just have this one. Here you can only make transfers with your own back account. Not at another bank
And I missed you and I was worried about you
Johnny what's going on today?
<sexy pic of mary>
for you cutee
Johnny: Awwwn thanks sweetheart you look so sexy there
A lot of things are wrong with me baby
Can't they make receipt after sending money to me for you

October 25
Mary: Where have you been all day yesterday
I'm going back to the bank today and I'm going to explain why you need that receipt and then I'll transfer the money again to you.
Guess you don't want to talk to me anymore.... then I just don't go
😢
Johnny: Hi
Sweetheart I'm here
Searching for job you know I can't be a lazy man need something so I'll be earning some money sorry I left you
Did you went to the bank
Mary: I thought you left me and i was so sad
Johnny: No babe
Are you here.
Mary: Yes I'm here, I missed you so much. How are you?
Johnny: I'm not fine called me on hangout let's talk
Mary: I could've done that earlier today but you weren't online. Now I'm not alone
Tell me what's wrong?
Johnny: I'll be fine
Did you went to bank?
Mary: What happened?
Johnny: Stop asking did you went to the bank
I said I'll be fine just looking for job so I can get money all months end and didn't see so just got headache
Mary: I told you no. I didn't go there because you never messaged me today. For all I know you could've been dead
And I was sad and worried
Johnny: Your wishing me to be dead
Mary: Fuck
No
Johnny: Well I'm fine just looking for job
Mary: I didn't
Johnny: Since you don't want to help me anymore
Mary: I was just worried you were
WHAT THE FUCK DID I TELL YOU
Johnny: Awwwn thanks
Mary: stop accusing me
Johnny: Do you know I missed you.
And also was worried caused you haven't heard from me
Mary: Then you should've send me a message instead of accusing me after ignoring me for a full day
Johnny: No babe I run out of data and didn't see money to buy
Mary: so how are you online now?
Johnny: I'm using WiFi here someone on for me don't have money to buy data
<screenshot saying he has no internet connection>
Seen what I sent?
Mary: Yes I've seen
Johnny: Okay
Sweetheart when will you send this €1000
Mary: Cutee I'll send it tomorrow, first thing in the morning
Johnny: Please I need a receipt of the money sent
<same turkish pork>
Once you send in that money asked them to make a receipt for you if they can't make it don't send ok
Mary: That's the same account as before right?
Johnny: Yes
Mary: And you're sure you can trust that guy?
Johnny: Yes as long as you send me a receipt of the money you sent I'll have the money on Monday
Mary: Ok. I'll ask them if they can give some kind of confirmation this time
Johnny: Okay make them understand you need a receipt okay
Call me let me explained okay
Mary: What did I just tell you?
Johnny: Sorry
When your at the bank tomorrow text me okay
Mary: I'll try
Johnny: Why
Mary: Because I have to make sure Ahmed doesnt see it dummy
Johnny: You don't want Ahmed to know about this right
Mary: No, because he'll go straigt to my parents. I told you all this didn't I?
Johnny: Yes
Sweetheart do you enter the bank if you want to send me this money?
Explained to them that you want to make a transaction and you'll need a receipt of the money you want to send ok
Mary: Cutee
repeat what I said earlier
Johnny: What's that?
You know my phones is bad
Mary: no, your eyes are
because you don't read what I tell you
Johnny: About the bank right?
Mary: yes
Johnny: Okay we are in the same page sweetheart when are you coming
Sweetheart you know if you want to come here we have to own our apartment should we built an apartment or we should buy?
Mary: first things first. Tomorrow I'm going to the bank and make sure you have some money. My dad is not on a busness trip so I have no way to get out now.
Johnny: Ok
Mary: But when I come to you I'll bring a lot of cash and we'll see what we do about the apartment
Johnny: Babe you can't bring euro money here
Except you'll send it here then when you come we will open account for you you have ID and others things to open right
Just can't wait to have you here
Whens dad going on a business trip
Mary: I don't know yet. So I'll have to bring dollars or what?
Johnny: No you'll send them here once I have them you'll come and open an account so you'll put on your account here
Understand?
Mary: I understand
but I can't send that much money, because they'll notice that and lock me up in the house. So I'd better bring cash and get a new account when I'm with you
Johnny: How much have you save in your account
Who will lock you?
Mary: my parents of course. I told you they'r strict as fuck
Johnny: Yes
If you send money how will they know
Mary: because they have Jack tracking everything I do
How much have you save
I can withdraw up to 250k but I have more in my trust fund
Johnny: Babe you have more than that in your account and dad and mom lock you?
Mary: You don't know them
Johnny: Do you have €250,000 in your saving account
Mary: What's with the thousand questions about my accounts? You told me the price of a house, I can easily afford that, so stop worrying
Johnny: We have to build or buy
Tell me let me found one the last one I found was taking by someone
Mary: Doesn't matter to me, either build or buy is fine with me, but building takes longer, where will we stay in the mean time?
Johnny: Yes is better we buy so once your here we would get in
Mary: probably
Johnny: Yes I want the house to be beautiful
But should I get it now?
Mary: You have money to pay for one now?
Johnny: Don't
Mary: Then again you forgot what I told you
Johnny: Asking if you want us to get now
I can't stay in a big house all by myself baby
I'm scared
Mary: Yes of course you can get us a house but how do you think to pay for it?
Johnny: Not used to that
Can't except you'll send money for house
Mary: I told you I'll send you the 1000 first tomorrow and see if we can really trust that friend of yours
I'm sure when I'm there and I'll pay a little extra we'll have a nice place in no time
Johnny: Ooh yes send €1000 first
Yes baby let's just wait for dad to go to his business trip
Mary: Yes, that's what I said
Johnny: Tomorrow after sending €1000 we will know if you can send more for house OK
After the €1000 reach me here
Mary: Sure
Johnny: Yes
What time will you go to bank
Mary: I think they open at 9, but I don't know if I'll wake up that early
Johnny: Sweetheart how are you doing with that homeschooled teacher ? I'm sure is bothering you a lot
Mary: What do you mean?
Johnny: The person that's teaching you at home how are you doing with he?
Like are u OK with the teacher now
Mary: I have different ones, some are boring. I kinda liked my previous history teacher but he got fired
ooookay..
goodnight I guess
Johnny: Goodnight hell no
Mary: hell yes if you go offline and leave me waiting for over 20 minutes
Johnny: Sorry
Signal sorry
Mary: goodnight anyway. it's almost midnight here
Johnny: Stayed please
Let's spend time with each other
Goodnight kisses😘😘😘
😘😘😘

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:28 pm

October 26 (spread out over the day, in the morning he received a notification from sexy-pic)
Mary: Good morning Johnny
Johnny: Hi sweetheart
Mary: Good morning I'm up I'm sure you have left to the bank now
I'm back already
Johnny: Okay
Are you here with the transaction receipt
Did you sent it my love
Mary: Yes I did
Johnny: Sweetheart
Where's the receipt
Where's the receipt

Johnny sent his first picture to sexy-pic

*message from sexy pic that it's rejected because it doesn't match the assignment*

Johnny: Tell the bank to make a receipt for you by themselves baby
Mary: Sorry cutee I forgot to send it to you. But I did get one
How was your day?
<sexy-pic receipt>
Johnny: Thanks sweetheart
Mary: hi cutee how have you been today?
Johnny: Fine is that the only receipt they gave to you
Mary: Yes
Johnny: Snap it again
Mary: no
Johnny: Why
Mary: Do I look like some damned circus monkey?
Johnny: No babe I mean snap the receipt again
Let it be straight
Mary: Why?
You can read it
Johnny: Let it be straight
Send straight one
Mary: Do you think I just leave that thing lying around the house here? What do you think will happen when someone sees it?
Johnny: Where are you now?
Mary: I'm home.
Johnny: In you room?
Mary: Dammit Johnny, I paid extra for more security with the transfer because your stupid friend is a crook and you wanted me to send the money there anyway. I did exactly like you asked, got a receipt and sent it to you, but I had to get rid of it afterwards because I'm fucked if someone finds it here
Johnny: Sweetheart I understand
Now are you in your room
Mary: No I'm not
Why?
Johnny: Are you there?
Mary: Yes
Johnny: Where are you now who's there with you?
I want to call you
Mary: dad is here
Johnny: Did you give the bank my email? They want me to verified with a picture
Mary: Yes, they needed that for the security procedure
Oh and I sent you 1500 instead of 1000 so you can fix that data issue
Johnny: Did they not show you anything like the money transfer to the bank account is there not receipt that's is writing with that account number
Mary: this is the receipt they gave me
And they said the payment will be released when you pass the security thingy
Johnny: What's the name of the bank
Mary: What the hell does that have to do with it?
Dad always tells me never to talk about my bank or accounts online
Johnny: Bros no fool me abeg😥
Mary: what?
Johnny: <picture of a bank receipt for that same turkish account>
This is how bank receipt look like Mary
Mary: That looks different
Okay
they never give me that
Johnny: Sweetheart that's the one they need
Mary: 😵
You never said that
Johnny: Show it to the bank they didn't give you a transfer slip now they're stressing you
Mary: No they're not stressing me, they're doing their job. You just need to follow the security procedure and then you'll get the money
Johnny: I follow and they said verification failed
Mary: then you probably fucked up
🙄
Johnny: You should have send this money through bank not that sexy-com
Mary: I sent it through the bank, this is just an extra security measurement that I paid extra for because your stupid friend can't be trusted
Johnny: How do you mean
Mary: your friend, the one from the turkish account, he couldn't be trusted. he's a crook. you said that yourself
Johnny: <screenshot from the sexy-pic transaction showing that he should dress up like santa> THANKS BERTJE!!!
That's what they're talking
Mary: Doesn't look overly complicated
Johnny: I don't understand this baby I've tried upload 3 picture
Mary: did you do what they said?
Johnny: Yes and they said verification failed
I'm confused don't know what to do
Tired

Again a picture was uploaded

... and declined because it didn't match the example...

Mary: Then probably you didn't read the instructions very well.
Were you visible from head to toe?
Johnny: They want a picture from head to toe right?
Mary: that's what the screenshot you sent me says
Johnny: They want me to look like that man or what?
Mary: I guess so
It says outside, head to toe, same clothes as the example
Johnny: I don't have that clothes
Sweetheart what's all this
Mary: Can't you find something that looks like it?
Johnny: What are we going to do
Can't find any I'm tired now
Mary: Doesn't really matter to me, because if you don't pass this security thingy then I'll just get my money back
but I"m not going to send it again if you fail
Johnny: Now listen to what you're saying baby
Mary: what's that?
Johnny: I don't have that type of clothes where should I get that from
You can go to another bank and send the money but you wouldn't listen
Don't use your bank
Mary: WHAT THE FUCK?
Johnny: 😥😥😥
Mary: because you're too lazy to make that picture you're going to have me drive around town again?
FUCK THAT
Johnny: Listen
You have to send this money using another bank baby tell the bank to give you your money I want us to be together but now your acting like you don't want us to be
Mary: how about no?
You want me to send the money to your scumbag crook friend, I paid extra for security, if you don't like it, that's not my problem
I did what you asked. Transfered more money, and gave you a slip. You're changing your demands every day.
I'm tired of this
Johnny: Sweetheart
Sweetheart listen to me please your making it difficult I send you the original slip
What they're telling me to do is difficult I don't have that type of clothes
Hold on
Is it instant payment that you did
How many days did they said it'll reach me
Baby can I tell u something

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