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Hello I'm New here! Joined: 04 Oct 2017 Posts: 7

I am new and this is my first one. I have no idea if I've formatted right. I've got a simple straight bait going, nothing too crazy. I've been short and to the point mostly. I want to post what I have so far. I'm not sure if I should post the email addresses and names, so I've left them out for now.

Me - replying to an email that I won a BMW (from a different email addy than my catcher account)

Quote:

Oh wow! I enter sweepstakes all the time but haven't ever won anything big like this. Please tell me what I need to do to claim my prize. I thank you so much.

Lad:

Quote:

Reference Number BMW:6743222009/17
THE LOTTERY DEPARTMENT BMW
Automobiles United States.

Dear BMW Enthusiast,

This is to inform you that you have been selected as a winner for a
cash prize Certified Check of 500,000.00 (Five Hundred Thousand United
State Dollars) and a brand new BMW 7 Series Car from International
programs held on the 20th of September, 2017 in United State..

Description of prize vehicle;
Model: 530iA
Color (exterior): Blue
Mileage: 5
Transmission: Automatic 6 Speed

Options: Cold weather package, premium package, fold down rear seats
w/ski bag, am fm stereo with single in dash compact disc player .The
selection process was carried out through random selection in our
computerized email selection ballot system from a database of over
250,000 email addresses drawn from all the continents of the world
which yours and nine others were selected as the winners.

The BMW Lottery is approved by the British Gaming Board and also
Licensed by the The International Association of Gaming Regulators
(IAGR). This promotional lottery is the 3rd of its kind and we intend
to sensitize the public. To begin the processing of your prize you are
to fill the information below and return immediately.

fill with your secret pin code Number BMW: 6743222009/17.

* Name in full.
* Address.
* Nationality.
* Age.
* Occupation.
* Phone/Fax.
* Present Country.
* Email address.
* pin code Number BMW:

THE DIRECTOR PROMOTIONS
BMW LOTTERY DEPARTMENT
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Me - I ignored some of the questions.

Quote:

Fake name and Address. don't work on disability. I was a Forester before my accident.

Email address - *removed

Lad

Quote:

Attn: *my characters name

your reference number has been confirmed.

This means that you have been officially cleared for payment by the
Verification Dept. at the head quarters of the LOTTERY DEPARTMENT
BMW GROUP.

Your Brand New BMW 7 Series Car , original copy of your winning
certificate, together with a covering document from the BMW GROUP
stating that the brand New BMW 7 Series Car was obtained legally
through their BMW promotion will be sent to you as soon as you choose
from any of the option stipulated below.

To begin the final step of the claims process, which is the shipment
of your brand New BMW 7 Series Car . With regards to this, there
are Two options open to you.

You are required to select the most convenient of the Two. The
options, together with their associated conditions are presented
below:

You are been required to pay the necessary courier / administrative
charges to enable us send you your brand New BMW 7 Series Car and
cheque and other claim documents.

We are shipping your winning sum ( certified bank draft) cheque and
brand New BMW 7 Series Car to you via any of this shipping
duration channel listed below:

SHIPMENT;
(5 days delivery)
Shipping $150
Administrative Charges
$100
Vat $100
TOTAL ($350)

Air-fright
(2 day delivery)
Flight $300
Administrative Charges
$100
Vat $100
Total ($500)

The courier company declined reverse payment for these charges,
stating that it is against their professional policy towards ensuring
the safe delivery of the cheque to you.

Your winnings will be delivered to you through our NEW Mexico ,USA
redemption / claims cent-re as soon as possible.

All paper works have been put in place and your winnings is ready to
be delivered to you .

Send your response to indicate your option so that we can advise you
on how to make the fee available to our NEW Mexico ,USA redemption /
claims center for prompt delivery of your winnings to your mailing
address.

Once again, congratulations.

YOURS SINCERELY,
Claims representative.
Reach us through text: *number removed

Me

Quote:

I'll do the 5 day delivery

At this point I get an email from someone with a totally different name and email address. But it's signed at the bottom with name of the first person.

Lad

Quote:

Hello

Thanks for the swift response and your option have been seen, so i
want you to know you are the one we will be waiting for now so you
will be assign a delivery agent to proceed to your door step, so you
are to send the 5 day delivery fee which is $350 through Walmart to
Walmart to the information below.

Receivers Name: PM (it's a female's American name)
Location: Venice Florida USA
Amount: $350

Note as soon as you make the payment you send us the refrence number
and sender name so the delivery agent will proceed with the delivery
and your winning certificate and picture of your car will be send to
you.

Await your response as you make the payment.

Thanks

L.Carlos

Me

Quote:

Who is KD? I was emailing with someone named Carlos. And who is P M? And how would I send money Walmart to Walmart

Lad

Quote:

Hello,

Thanks for your swift response, yes you are right, i am the
delivery department representative of your winning, so your winning
will be deliver to you once you remit the dfelivery charges, and
regarding who is pm, she is the secetary of the
department so is in charges of fees ok?

so all you need to do is go to walmart and remit the delivery fee to
the information i gave to you ok

I haven't answered back yet. I am planning on saying why I can't make it to Walmart... or play dumb about sending Walmart to Walmart some more. Any tips? I didn't realize this person would be in the US when I started the exchange.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:03 pm

Oh, I like winning new cars! Most baiters think they are a waste of time as they twig easy but I think that means they are not baited enough. Who knows?

Good start. I just had a Walmart to Walmart request which is the first I've ever heard of that. My response was there was no Walmart where my character lives (and there isn't) so they coughed up a piggy.

The lad is probably not in the US - they will use a money mule in the US to get the money overseas. But if you can get the mule's financial info - you can submit that to a mod and get a piggy that way!

Good start!

LA

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:08 pm

In fact, now that I look, you and I are baiting the same guy! Smile

He gave me the same mule info. He twigged on me already as I went too fast with him. I'm still learning! Good luck!

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 04 Oct 2017 Posts: 7

oh... too funny! I'll update my progress....and try not to scare him away too fast

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:40 pm

The lad is West African and is neither in the US nor in the UK. You're doing well.

You could ask for the complete address of the mule, as if you need it for mailing a check (your character could be confused about Walmart payments, or there may be a post office substation in the nearest Walmart). When you get it, submit it by PM to a mod.

If he insists on a Walmart payment or WU/MG, tell him that lotteries have bank accounts and don't use those strange means of payment, and see if you get the same piggy. Then report the piggy.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:41 pm

I also played a bit with this idiot Kevin... he was mad at me when I asked him to give me a Toyota LandCruiser instead of that BMW. Laughing

My character:

Quote:

Sir,

Wow, that's a extraordinary good news! I'm very happy but I would ask you to change my BMW car with a Toyota LandCruiser.
I am a great fan of the Toyota cars and I do not want to change the brand. Is that possible? Thanks!

Our idiot:

Quote:

How can the BMW be change to Toyota? we are different companys

My character:

Quote:

Kevin, my friend,

How can this problem interest me?
Are you a car dealer? If YES, then do your job and give me the car that I really want.

I WANT A TOYOTAAAAAA!

Here Kevin abandoned the "fight" and disappeared into the deep blue.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 04 Oct 2017 Posts: 7

Well it sounds like this guy isn't much fun at all ! Very Happy

I'll keep trying and see if I can get something out of him

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:39 pm

I have also just started a straight bait with this lad.

Elite Baiter Joined: 17 Jun 2015 Posts: 1942

dtdewaddict wrote:

I'll keep trying and see if I can get something out of him

You are getting something out of him, time. Time he could have spent working a real victim. Keep up the good work.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:10 pm

You're only getting a BMW? Gee...that sucks. I'm getting a McLaren! My lad (different than yours) has been fairly patient so far. He coughed up a slab of Nigerian bacon without my having to ask. I told him that an international wire transfer takes up to 5 business days, and he has been very patient in waiting. Didn't even pester me for a "payment slip" once I told him I did it online. He was quite happy to get my fake confirmation number. He even sent me a picture of a McLaren that he pulled off the internet. It's not the right model he promised me, but I didn't want to educate him. (He promised me a 570S but sent a picture of an MP4-12C.)

Now that it's been 6 days, he's asking me to do the money gram thing, which my character hasn't heard of. So, that will cause more delays.

These lads tend to twig easily because they amount of money they are asking is so small. It cracks me up that they say it only costs a couple hundred bucks to ship a car internationally. My lad has only asked for $400 to ship (air freight, no less) the car from Nigeria to the US. I actually do ship cars in RL, and I can't get a car from Florida to NY for $400. Shipping internationally (NY to Nigeria, for example) takes 6-8 weeks on a boat and costs $2500 minimum. Sending a car by air costs minimum $10,000 and still takes at least a week. But, I certainly won't bother to educate them on the finer points of shipping automobiles around the globe. Very Happy

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:28 pm

I am really starting to like this lad. He's WAY more fun than most lottery / car lads. I told him the bank transfer failed because the target account was flagged for some reason. Here's his response:

Quote:

Madam, Nigerian banking system is not something to write home about,a lot of our leaders do steal money and bank it out side so because of that, any money coming in or out of the country is been monitored, can you believe that before you can make a transfer with any bank local or international you must have account with the bank and what we call vpn if not nothing will be done, so that account number is the financial sectaries that we use to make any transaction outside or inside the country, the only way to make successful transaction without delay is to use that account as personal account and not companies, because to make or receive transfer from here as company has a lot of process because , the bank will think that some government or corrupt leader is using the company to bank money out side.so we have had much so far, that is why our manager said you should use money gram to make the payment ok so below is the direction to use to send it through money gram as directed by our manager.so email me back to confirm you got this right. <SEND MG RECEIVER INFO WHICH I WILL IGNORE>

I really appreciate his efforts to explain the corrupt system in Nigeria. I'm sure he won't be terribly surprised when, eventually, a WU or MG (or both) get chopped by these "leaders". Twisted Evil

EDITED FOR UPDATE:
I asked the lad for the receiver's full address so I could send the money gram. My character thinks he is asking for a money order to be sent in the mail/post. I'm sure that won't cause any problems.[/i]

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:48 pm

Yeah he twigged on me after Sister Mary referred him to the Beaver Island bank manager who offered to help him get millions more from the orphanage but the lad refused. His loss... He seemed like he had potential.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:01 pm

If anyone would like to try for the McLaren and my slightly-less-lazy lad, here are the details. Just take the spaces out of the email address for the real one to contact to get your McLaren 570S, and ask for "Monica". And, yes, it does say "ceneter", - that's not a typo on my part. Rolling Eyes

aes shipping ceneter (at) zoho (dot) com

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:20 pm

I'm in.
We will see what Monica can do! Laughing

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:32 pm

The lad just emailed me urgently with a last minute change!

Quote:

MADAM OUR MANAGER ASK ME TO TELL YOU NOW AS I WAS GIVEN HIM UPDATE HE SAID, IF POSIBLE ,THAT YOU SHOULD USE (Ria Money Transfer) BECAUSE MONEY GRAM DONT WORK HERE ON SATURDAY TO AVOID MORE DELAY PLEASE YOU SHOULD USE (Ria Money Transfer)AND ALSO THEY SHOULD MAKE THE MONEY AVAILABLE AT ANY AGENT LOCATION, AM SORRY BUT THAT IS OUR BANKING SYSTEM FOR YOU. PLEASE CONFIRM YOU RECEIVE THIS MESSAGE, EMAIL ME BACK

Oh... too late! Jen has already been to the bank (right before they closed) to get a money order (which is what she thought Monica meant by money gram) and stuck it in the mail. She's driving in rush hour traffic now to the airport for a weekend getaway and won't get the email until later this evening. Oh, darn.

I just love it when the lad makes it SO EASY to blame him for the confusion and delays.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:57 pm

Looks like he doesn't want to get money from Mr Franklin.

Quote:

i just told you the method to make the payment and if you cant, we are
sorry to proceed to the next winner.

Franklin insists to pay via bank, as he used these instant money transfers for online gambling and he is blacklisted from them. But apparently the Lad does not understand the word "blacklisted".

Baiting Guru Joined: 25 Jul 2017 Posts: 2107

Sounds like fun.......I'll try my hand at it too. I just lost a BMW from a lad who would only accept walmart transfers.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:48 pm

He FINALLY figured out that a "money order" is not the same thing as "money gram". Took him long enough. Sounds like he got slapped by his oga. Very Happy

Quote:

Madam you have put me in a very hard condition here,you need to see the way our manager shouted on me as if I do not know my work any more,this money order is not accepted here as our method of payment,here is different world from yours ,I told you money gram and not money order you can read my emails well,please don't be offended or get me wrong am trying to make this thing work,also I know you have done your best too but our system here are not the same,please what am saying is,that money order can not work here,since you can not use money gram,please our manager insist that you use (RIA MONEY TRANSFER SERVICE)Also he said that any additional money that you have spend on this process ,will be deducted from your remaining balance to pay after the delivery so you do not have to worry about the money you spent while trying to make it work,So use the ria money transfer to send it to the same name,and also let us know the correct amount you have spend while trying to send the money so that it will be deducted from your remaining $350 to pay after delivery.thank you as I wait your response.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:31 pm

Birlic wrote:

I'm in.
We will see what Monica can do! Laughing

OK, let's play with Monica. Laughing

My character, to Monica (the lad car dealer Laughing

)

Quote:

Hello and God bless you!

I'm intersted about your message and I want to know more details.
Can you explain me?

Be blessed,
Rev. Eduard

Monica:

Quote:

Rev. Eduard A McLaren 570S car is in our custody to be delivered to you .
Your hereby required to respond back with the correct address that you
want your car to be delivered to you.
We look forward to providing you with the best in customer service.

Thank you for choosing A.E.S

Monica
A.E.S Agent

My character, old bishop:

Quote:

Good evening, Miss Monica,

Rev. Eduard is my assistant and he enjoys playing roulette and gambling... That thing that is against our faith, obviously.
Please tell me what it is, because I do not intend to lead the Church into a media scandal.

Gum beannaicheadh Dia thu!
bishop Adamma

Monica:

Quote:

Rev. Eduard won a A McLaren 570S car from check center and the car has been brought to our custody to be delivered to him .

Monica
A.E.S Agent

My old bishop:

Quote:

Sister Monica, God bless you!
Please believe that this stuff fills me with wonder and indignation.
I was sure Eward would do stupid at one point because he is young and does not resist the temptations of modern life.

Can you show me this car? To see what the money is spent on the church?
Thank you!

Gum beannaicheadh Dia thu!
+++bishop Adamma+++

PS: Please tell me what can be done now. I do not want the Holy Church to be involved in a scandal.

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:26 am

srichards wrote:

... He even sent me a picture of a McLaren that he pulled off the internet. It's not the right model he promised me, but I didn't want to educate him. (He promised me a 570S but sent a picture of an MP4-12C.)
...

My old bishop received the same internet pictures. Laughing

It is obvious that the church does not need a sports car, so I asked for a van.
I showed him the model (obviously a picture taken from the internet). Very Happy

Monica

Quote:

The attachment is the picture of the car and also we shall need him to email us the address for us to deliver the car to him

Thank you for choosing A.E.S

Monica
A.E.S Agent

My old bishop

Quote:

Sister Monica, thank you and God bless you!
Address of our congregation:

- St. Michael’s Chapel... bla, bla, bla,... my fake church address, in Aberdeen

I wonder if your company is building van cars?
Because, honestly, the car that my young assistant has chosen is not right for our holy church.
I just do not see how we could use such a sports car.

Gum beannaicheadh Dia thu!

Monica

Quote:

He did not choose the car but the was the one made available for this.also a scan of your ID card will be required prior to shipment and again at upon
receipt of your car.

Thank you for choosing A.E.S

Monica
A.E.S Agent

Old bishop sent a picture of a "church van". Laughing

Quote:

My dear daughter, look what car I would like for my church.
Do you think that my wish can be solved?

Requirements:
- white color,
- door with disabled ramp (I am immobilized in a wheelchair),
- automatic gearbox,
- a set of additional winter wheels.

I will ask my assistant Jannisen to look for my Retirement Certificate and scan it so I can send it to you as soon as possible.
At my age, I am unmovable and I have not been traveling anywhere for over 20 years.
All my daily jobs are made with the church van, and Jannisen helps me with my wheelchair.
Our church phone is (snip phone number) and Father Lenny is in charge of taking calls to the parish. If you need me, it's more useful to communicate by email because Lenny has many moments in forgetting to write down all the details and I do not want to make any trouble. He is too old and suffers from Alzheimer, but he is a faithful soul who has been with us for the last 40 years.

Be blessed,

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:01 pm

Monica is full of goodwill, so the sport car can be changed on some money. Laughing

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William Adamma i got your email well , and here is what i have to say about it, you know that we the AES is just a delivery company we are not the one that gave this winning car as our work is to deliver it to the person, this winning came from checki car center the dealers of MCLAREN 570S car here in Lagos Nigeria ,Rev. Eduard can confirmed the first email send to him on MCLAREN 570S car maybe if you don't like the car, you can email them and ask them to give you the amount or worth of the car in cash so that you can get the kind of car you want,i think it is still ok so below is there contact email if that is ok to you, but should in case you still want us to deliver the one available here do let us know

checkicarcentar at hotmail dot com
checkicarcenter at yahoo dot com

Monica
A.E.S Agent

PS: Yes, the first address (hotmail) is written with centar. Not center. Laughing

Baiting Guru Joined: 25 Jul 2017 Posts: 2107

I just rec'd an email that I can have cash too to get a pickup truck in lieu of the sports car. Email addresses match those you just listed. It's nice to know some companies are flexible and not all prizes have to be accepted as awarded.

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:23 am

The story continues... the old bishop contacted the "Car Dealer" from Nigeria. Laughing

My bishop to Monica:

Quote:

Dear Monica,
Thanks, I'll get in touch with them and I'll ask for help with replacing the sports car with a van. Much better for the purposes of our church.

Monica:

Quote:

William Adamma ok still let me know once you email them

Thank you for choosing A.E.S
Monica

Old bishop to "nigerian car dealer" (Monica is in CC):

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Dear Sir,
I'm contacting you about a sports car bought by my assistant.
Our church needs a van, so I'm asking you to help me out with this problem.
Agent Monica is a delightful person, but he told me the problem can only be solved there in Nigeria. Is that true?

Be blessed,
+++bishop Adamma+++

Nigerian Car Dealer, to my bishop... also he sent a picture of a van (taken from the internet):

Quote:

Adamma AES has already inform us about it since morning, and we have been looking into it and th ebuses we have available that we think would be nice for the church is Toyota* Model: Hiace * Year: 2014 * Body Style: 3DR Passenger Bus * Engine: 2.7* Cylinders: 4* Drive: Front Wheel Drive* Interior: Executive Fabric Seats* Transmission: Manual* Fuel: Petrol* Colour: White, als i have attached a picture of it to you, so check the attachment you will see what it look like and if that is ok to you, then let us know for us to get it ready and transfer it to AES for them to deliver it to you also have it in mind that the cost or service charge for AES to deliver to you is going to be on you , so view the attachment and email back

CHEKI CAR CENTRE LTD

The bishop is unhappy because the car does not fully meet the demands of the church: Laughing

Quote:

Dear son, good morning and God bless you!

First of all, it is polite to know the person I'm talking to. Please present yourself properly. Thank you!
Secondly, the church readily accepts the offer for Toyota car, but I have a few small observations to make.
Miss Monica from AES already knows my requirements about the van:

- white color,
- door with disabled ramp (I am immobilized in a wheelchair),
- automatic gearbox,
- a set of additional winter wheels.

Please check availability and send my answer as soon as possible.
Regarding any extra-expense, it is obvious that the church is committed to paying them. The van has to get to us in Aberdeen with all the papers in order.

Gum beannaicheadh Dia thu!

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:15 am

Yes, of course, the story continues!
I love Africa, the continent of all possibilities! Laughing

Yesterday, in the evening time
My old bishop wrote to Monica:

Quote:

Monica, good evening!

I got in touch with your Nigeria representative and after just two messages, they did not answer anything. Do you know anything about that?
- They found a Toyota van, but they did not have an automatic box.
- I asked for some clarifications and agreed to pay all the costs.

Be blessed,

Monica's answer:

Quote:

Adama i will email them too now to see what the situation of things is

Monica
A.E.S Agent

In exactly 5 minutes, the old bishop received a message from the "nigerian car dealer":

Quote:

WILLIAM ADAMMA MY NAME MR EJU HAKIM PROMOTION MANAGER ON CHECKI CAR CENTER HERE IN LAGOS NIGERIA , LET ME CONTACT OUR OTHER BRANCHES HERE AND SEE IF WE HAVE EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED AND I WILL GET BACK TO YOU IN FEW HOURS

CHEKI CAR CENTRE LTD

After one hour, I received another message from the "car dealer"... the message contained 2 photos (from the internet) of a white van fitted with a disabled ramp. Laughing

Quote:

WILLIAM ADAMMA PLEASE DO VIEW THE ATTACHMENT , I HAVE BEEN CALLING ALL OUR WARE HOUSE HERE TO FINE YOUR DESCRIPTION, SO EMAIL SOON ENOUGH TO ENABLE COMMENCE ON THE PROCESS

CHEKI CAR CENTRE LTD

Today, in the morning hours
Mr. Hakim (our nigerian car dealer):

Quote:

WILLIAM ADAMMA HAVE YOU SEEN THE CAR ATTACHMENT? PLEASE EMAIL ME BACK

CHEKI CAR CENTRE LTD

My old bishop is very pleased and proposes a greater collaboration.
In the Aberdeen area there are many churches who would like to buy new cars.
Of course, all this cars have to be engraved with the names of the churches so they can be exempted from local taxes. Laughing

Quote:

Dear Hakim, good morning and God bless you!

I have now seen your messages (last 2 messages) and YES, I think we need this for the church.
Please confirm me firmly:

- delivery availability here at Aberdeen UK,
- the price without local taxes,
- the final price (includes transportation, handling, insurance, customs formalities, other expenses.),
- your company's commission.

If the car is equipped with a disabled ramp and if it is branded, then the local taxes here in Aberdeen are zero. It is considered to be a public utility car (churches are not taxed here).
Please get in touch with a local company that produces advertising materials and tie the car on the both sides with our church logo. I will send you the logo model and the full name of our church.

I expect your answer and, depending on the final costs, I will recommend your company to the other local Scottish bishops.
In our area there are over 20 local churches, and most of their cars are already 12-16 years old and must be replaced with new models.

Gum beannaicheadh Dia thu!

I am convinced that the old bishop will want to see some examples of cars decorated with stickers... and he will want to see some contracts with the company dealing with these stickers... and, of course, it will also be needed some invoices... and, more and more! Laughing

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:14 pm

This is not a topic open by me, so I would not want to monopolize the discussion.
What I wanted to tell you is that the old bishop wants to buy 20 Toyota vans: white, branded with church logo and fitted with a ramp for the disabled people.
I think Monica expects to receive a huge commission, taking into account that the total transaction value is approaching $800,000. Laughing

After some uninteresting messages, Hakim (nigerian car dealer) accepted my request.:

Quote:

William Adamma am sorry for the delay to reply your email,first of all i want you to understand some thing clear to avoid confusion at any point,we the checki car center are not collecting any money from you for this car, it is a winning to you although we have to replace a car that suits you, so we are not taking any thing for the car as money ok?
Secondly i said the money to get all done and to ship your car to your door step is $2,350 and not $2,150
Now the cost of this car is Price $54,995 if you need to buy but if your buying more that one or 20 as you said , we will give you them at $35.995 there is always a good discount and also for customers that are buying more that one, we do help them on the shipping too we don't leave them to handle it all by them self.Now i understand why you need the church logo on it and i promise you we will do just that as soon as we are making good progress .so email me back

CHEKI CAR CENTRE LTD

My old bishop is somewhat naive, but he's a good buyer:

Quote:

Dear Hakim,

As I already told you, I do not like playing with words.
"The word of a strong man weighs his weight in gold", as Saint Martyr Elephterie says in his third letter to the Khan of Tartars. Laughing

It's helpful to ask twice before you do something... as it is useful to measure 2 times before you cut the fabric of a garment. Right?
So, let's make things clear, okay?

1. We have to pay a "commision fee" for preparing ALL the papers... $2,350 for each car. Correct?
My question to you: For 20 cars, we can obtain a discount here? Let's say we cut up the amount to 2,000 per car. Yes or No?

2. If our church take ONE Toyota van, we have to pay an amount of $54,995... Correct? But, if we buy 19-20 vans, then the final price is only $35,995 for one car. Correct?

3. It is mandatory for the cars to be branded with the Church logo before the ship arrives with them in the Bristol customs. It's your job to deal with it, and send me the bill for the cost of the stickers and the workmanship. I do not think to cost more than $500 per car.

2,000*20=40,000 (fee for preparing all the papers)
35,995*20=719,900 (cost of all vans)
500*20=10,000 (cost for logo operation)
We have a total amount of $769,900.

From your experience, do you think there may be other hidden costs?
It is useful to know this from the start of the project, because I have to take into account the actual cost of the loan from the bank (the interest).
I'm probably asking for a $ 800,000 loan, for to be sure.

Gum beannaicheadh Dia thu!

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