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NickTheCop
Elite Baiter
Joined: 05 Sep 2008
Posts: 2002
Location: The City Where Dreams Go To Die
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Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:46 pm |
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Raga Man wrote: |
BTW, my boy-toy isn't buying the safari to meet my brother-in-law in Savannah |
Lad wrote: |
PIf he has the money cash and ready then he shd be able to do three or four deposits in boa. |
But when you send him the money and the transfer doesn't go through, how else are you to make the payment? |
_________________ Dougie Mac - 16 000km/10 000mi - Malaysia to Cairo, Egypt
Nodo - Lagos to Cotonou - with P.P3t3rs
Lagos to Abuja to Maiduguri - 3050km/1900mi
Broda Michael - 1500km/900mi - Lome to Lagos
-I LOST EVERYTHING THAT NIGHT JUST BECAUSE OF YOU.
BJ - Lome to Abidjan to Yamoussoukro
Lome to Lagos - 2275km/1400mi
Misc :
Total : 17 000 Mugu Miles (27 000km)
x7 x2 x8
"MAY YOUR BLOOD BE SHARED AMONG DOGS AND WOOIS.
YOU FACKING SON OF THE DIVEL YOU ARE MORE STUPID." - Broda Michael
Mr Bigg's is dead! Long live Mr Bigg's! |
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Titania
Hell on wheels
Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Posts: 2442
Location: Rollin' rollin' rollin'
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Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:48 pm |
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This lad is confusing. First he says he wants to meet you at the Atlanta airport. Then he asks you which airport is closest to you. Then he says you have to get him at the Atlanta airport, and in the same paragraph asks for the airport name. Then he says Savannah is too far.
What's with him, anyway? |
_________________ i do not know you.you need to expanciate more - C0llins W3aver
those words really made me felt completely bad..and i had to dust my ass and wipe tears Micheal David
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Stanley's Christmas Adventure 2008 - Lagos to Abuja - massbait |
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Raga Man
Baiting Guru
Joined: 04 Sep 2009
Posts: 2879
Location: In a gloomy castle on a lonely hill
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Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:49 pm |
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I'm not street-savvy enough to know where a Crips 'hood is in Atlanta. Since he is apparently an Atlanta local, I expect he would know where this is and maybe the significance of the red bandana (which, I suspect, is the mark of rival gang). Definitely NOT a risky-free venture for him!
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If he or she doesn't accept to come or make depoit then you may have to depoit 1000 for me so I can rent a truck and head out to him tomorrow. But pls let this be a last option |
Since when is a "brother-in-law" a she and what kind of "diplomat" rents trucks? At least he is thinking about making the trip to Savannah. |
_________________ X 23 X 3
+ Evans Phillips, Atlanta>Savannah for a roll in the hay on webcam. "I hate the way you do your things. It is horrible and most fraustrating", "Bitch!!! Bastard. Die in hell idiot"
Favor 0nowojo, Scammer Confession. "This is a coke and boo story"
+ (15 mo.) David Holt (will eat your flesh for money)
"there is something fishery going on", "You people are all Junks", E. Kaba
"Go and face your dumb life", J. Mathin
"You are not well trained as a human being...", M. Tony
"...there are thieves and kackers and postal pilferers in africa...", E. Didier. Who knew?
Last edited by Raga Man on Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:51 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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NickTheCop
Elite Baiter
Joined: 05 Sep 2008
Posts: 2002
Location: The City Where Dreams Go To Die
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Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:50 pm |
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Raga Man wrote: |
what kind of "diplomat" rents trucks? |
The recession has been kind to no one. |
_________________ Dougie Mac - 16 000km/10 000mi - Malaysia to Cairo, Egypt
Nodo - Lagos to Cotonou - with P.P3t3rs
Lagos to Abuja to Maiduguri - 3050km/1900mi
Broda Michael - 1500km/900mi - Lome to Lagos
-I LOST EVERYTHING THAT NIGHT JUST BECAUSE OF YOU.
BJ - Lome to Abidjan to Yamoussoukro
Lome to Lagos - 2275km/1400mi
Misc :
Total : 17 000 Mugu Miles (27 000km)
x7 x2 x8
"MAY YOUR BLOOD BE SHARED AMONG DOGS AND WOOIS.
YOU FACKING SON OF THE DIVEL YOU ARE MORE STUPID." - Broda Michael
Mr Bigg's is dead! Long live Mr Bigg's! |
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Raga Man
Baiting Guru
Joined: 04 Sep 2009
Posts: 2879
Location: In a gloomy castle on a lonely hill
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Posted:
Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:54 pm |
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Hey, Nick... since you are very adept at getting lads on safari, got any ideas on how I can encourage him to make the trip to Savannah and put on a live show for us? |
_________________ X 23 X 3
+ Evans Phillips, Atlanta>Savannah for a roll in the hay on webcam. "I hate the way you do your things. It is horrible and most fraustrating", "Bitch!!! Bastard. Die in hell idiot"
Favor 0nowojo, Scammer Confession. "This is a coke and boo story"
+ (15 mo.) David Holt (will eat your flesh for money)
"there is something fishery going on", "You people are all Junks", E. Kaba
"Go and face your dumb life", J. Mathin
"You are not well trained as a human being...", M. Tony
"...there are thieves and kackers and postal pilferers in africa...", E. Didier. Who knew? |
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NickTheCop
Elite Baiter
Joined: 05 Sep 2008
Posts: 2002
Location: The City Where Dreams Go To Die
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Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:04 pm |
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I get that a lot.
...I jest, I jest.
The trick to getting lads on safaris is pretty simple. You just have to make them believe that:
A) you have the money and are naive enough to part with it
B) the ONLY way - or the easiest way, if the story allows - they can get the money is by traveling to a specific location
Never treat your baits like aims or goals. That creates a dependence on the lads and, believe it or not, like dogs smell fear, lads pick up on dependence. So, at all times, even if you'll be getting something from the lad, you need to make him feel like he is dependent on you and you couldn't care less if this falls through. Don't just flat out say it, though. That won't help your cause. Instead, simply plant the idea in his mind.
If you want more "direct" help, I don't mind making some phone calls to your boi. Lads love my silly voice. |
_________________ Dougie Mac - 16 000km/10 000mi - Malaysia to Cairo, Egypt
Nodo - Lagos to Cotonou - with P.P3t3rs
Lagos to Abuja to Maiduguri - 3050km/1900mi
Broda Michael - 1500km/900mi - Lome to Lagos
-I LOST EVERYTHING THAT NIGHT JUST BECAUSE OF YOU.
BJ - Lome to Abidjan to Yamoussoukro
Lome to Lagos - 2275km/1400mi
Misc :
Total : 17 000 Mugu Miles (27 000km)
x7 x2 x8
"MAY YOUR BLOOD BE SHARED AMONG DOGS AND WOOIS.
YOU FACKING SON OF THE DIVEL YOU ARE MORE STUPID." - Broda Michael
Mr Bigg's is dead! Long live Mr Bigg's!
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Raga Man
Baiting Guru
Joined: 04 Sep 2009
Posts: 2879
Location: In a gloomy castle on a lonely hill
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Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:16 pm |
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Thanks. Good advice. I may take you up on the direct contact thing. He does want my "brother-in-law" to call him. I probably need to do a little more set up work on him, though. |
_________________ X 23 X 3
+ Evans Phillips, Atlanta>Savannah for a roll in the hay on webcam. "I hate the way you do your things. It is horrible and most fraustrating", "Bitch!!! Bastard. Die in hell idiot"
Favor 0nowojo, Scammer Confession. "This is a coke and boo story"
+ (15 mo.) David Holt (will eat your flesh for money)
"there is something fishery going on", "You people are all Junks", E. Kaba
"Go and face your dumb life", J. Mathin
"You are not well trained as a human being...", M. Tony
"...there are thieves and kackers and postal pilferers in africa...", E. Didier. Who knew? |
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Jeff
Elite Baiter
Joined: 28 Jun 2006
Posts: 1621
Location: Gilligan's Island
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Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:27 pm |
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We had a meet a couple of years ago with a scammer in Atlanta. It was prearranged and the Atlanta PD were notified. Great pictures were taken of the meet including an Atlanta baiter posing WITH the scammer. He pretended to ask directions. No response from APD. Easier to issue traffic notices than attempt a jurisdiction nightmare.
Go for the "meet" though and I'm sure there are street cams there.
PS> NOT a real meet.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
_________________ IF IT IS TRUE YOU ARE WRITING AND PAYING TO WHO I DONT KNOW I MUST MAKE SURE I CUT YOUR THROAT,ARE YOU STUPID?CANT YOU READ?IS THAT MY EMAIL?ARE YOU CRAZY?ARE YOU MAD?ARE YOU AN IMBECILE?YOU PAYED TO HIM AND YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT YOU PAYED HIM MONEY,IS THAT MY EMAIL?FUCK YOUR WIFE AND SCREEW YOUR KIDS,IDIOT AND HOPLESS HUMAN BEING LIKE YOU.DIE AND ROT IN HELL
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Raga Man
Baiting Guru
Joined: 04 Sep 2009
Posts: 2879
Location: In a gloomy castle on a lonely hill
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Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:45 pm |
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Nice work, Jeff, you "HOPLESS HUMAN BEING" (sad thing to be without hops). Your experience just confirms it isn't worth the trouble to try to involve the police.
Think I'll go have a beer so I don't wind up hopless like you |
_________________ X 23 X 3
+ Evans Phillips, Atlanta>Savannah for a roll in the hay on webcam. "I hate the way you do your things. It is horrible and most fraustrating", "Bitch!!! Bastard. Die in hell idiot"
Favor 0nowojo, Scammer Confession. "This is a coke and boo story"
+ (15 mo.) David Holt (will eat your flesh for money)
"there is something fishery going on", "You people are all Junks", E. Kaba
"Go and face your dumb life", J. Mathin
"You are not well trained as a human being...", M. Tony
"...there are thieves and kackers and postal pilferers in africa...", E. Didier. Who knew? |
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Badgerbait
Baiting Guru
Joined: 07 Jan 2009
Posts: 4507
Location: Winter spites...
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:53 am |
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I know it is a long shot but I suspect a lad in Atlanta has a chance at being a non- U.S. citizen. This opens the door to ICE and their cyber crimes division. If he has defrauded some one and they can connect him, the previous case and current attempts, his status in the U.S. might land him back home on the most unfavorable of terms. It never hurts to let an agent know what is going on incase they can act. 866-DHS2ICE is the general, public intake number. The least they can do is take the iformation they get from you and say we will look into it. |
_________________ I have arrived in Moscow. Has gone to bank and to me have told that there is no such transfer for me!!!!
What does it mean? You played with me? If it so that you very much the cruel man and I am assured of that that the god will see your cruelty.
Explain to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Alena Byk0va
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We are Karma's soldiers.
<a href="/forum/donate.php">Mugu Gold</a>
I must be cruel, only to be kind:
Thus bad begins and worse remains behind. -Hamlet, scene iv
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Fryer
Baiting Guru
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Posts: 2672
Location: Global Computer Mega Cafe
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:39 am |
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Why get him arrested and miss out on all the potential fun?!
I think Jose's webcam suggestion is the best way to get his Holidays off to a great start!! Just let us all in on the meet time so we can watch the show!! |
_________________ x 710 x N x 2 Click here for a Sure Fire Pith Helmet Modality
YOU ARE A MOTHERFUCKER SCUMBAG AND AN EMPTY VESSEL
FUCK YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY . YOU ARE SATAN. YOU ARE ANTI-CHRIST
guy nawaaa for you oooh |
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Jammy
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 24 Oct 2009
Posts: 517
Location: Absolutely, last time I checked.
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:40 am |
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Fryer wrote: |
Why get him arrested and miss out on all the potential fun?! |
Um... because that might protect some actual victims from getting scammed by this guy? Personally, if I had the choice between baiting a lad and getting him thrown in jail, I'd go with the option that saves his real victims even if it means I miss out on a little fun.
That said, I agree with the general consensus here that there's a snowball's chance in hell of even getting a police report written, let alone having him arrested before the crime has actually taken place.
So I'm all for the webcam safari in this case. |
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Published Bait: The Miseducation of Chief Mrs Watusi FBI Mrs |
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Raga Man
Baiting Guru
Joined: 04 Sep 2009
Posts: 2879
Location: In a gloomy castle on a lonely hill
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:47 pm |
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@Nick...
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If you want more "direct" help, I don't mind making some phone calls to your boi. |
I'd like to take you up on your offer. I just sent you a PM about this. |
_________________ X 23 X 3
+ Evans Phillips, Atlanta>Savannah for a roll in the hay on webcam. "I hate the way you do your things. It is horrible and most fraustrating", "Bitch!!! Bastard. Die in hell idiot"
Favor 0nowojo, Scammer Confession. "This is a coke and boo story"
+ (15 mo.) David Holt (will eat your flesh for money)
"there is something fishery going on", "You people are all Junks", E. Kaba
"Go and face your dumb life", J. Mathin
"You are not well trained as a human being...", M. Tony
"...there are thieves and kackers and postal pilferers in africa...", E. Didier. Who knew? |
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Fryer
Baiting Guru
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Posts: 2672
Location: Global Computer Mega Cafe
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:59 pm |
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Jammy wrote: |
Um... because that might protect some actual victims from getting scammed by this guy? |
Facetious - 2: meant to be humorous or funny : not serious |
_________________ x 710 x N x 2 Click here for a Sure Fire Pith Helmet Modality
YOU ARE A MOTHERFUCKER SCUMBAG AND AN EMPTY VESSEL
FUCK YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY . YOU ARE SATAN. YOU ARE ANTI-CHRIST
guy nawaaa for you oooh |
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Jammy
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 24 Oct 2009
Posts: 517
Location: Absolutely, last time I checked.
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Fryer
Baiting Guru
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Posts: 2672
Location: Global Computer Mega Cafe
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:27 pm |
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No worries, it's all good.... |
_________________ x 710 x N x 2 Click here for a Sure Fire Pith Helmet Modality
YOU ARE A MOTHERFUCKER SCUMBAG AND AN EMPTY VESSEL
FUCK YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY . YOU ARE SATAN. YOU ARE ANTI-CHRIST
guy nawaaa for you oooh |
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bratwurst
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 04 Nov 2009
Posts: 53
Location: London
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Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:34 pm |
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So he is in Atlanta Georgia and you are waiting for him in Atlanta Texas with all that lovely money. |
_________________ fuck u faggot.....An I will kill u with African Voodoo....Believe that !!! |
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maleko40
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 19 Sep 2009
Posts: 25
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Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:42 pm |
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@raga Could you PM me all his details? Phone #, name, company in Atlanta. Everything you have on the guy.
Thanks. |
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curlyearl
419Eater is my life
Joined: 29 Aug 2009
Posts: 299
Location: Desert Rose Barstool
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NickTheCop
Elite Baiter
Joined: 05 Sep 2008
Posts: 2002
Location: The City Where Dreams Go To Die
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:21 am |
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^^ The lad's line went to voicemail the few times I tried. I'm going to wait until the holiday season is over for him to get back to "work". |
_________________ Dougie Mac - 16 000km/10 000mi - Malaysia to Cairo, Egypt
Nodo - Lagos to Cotonou - with P.P3t3rs
Lagos to Abuja to Maiduguri - 3050km/1900mi
Broda Michael - 1500km/900mi - Lome to Lagos
-I LOST EVERYTHING THAT NIGHT JUST BECAUSE OF YOU.
BJ - Lome to Abidjan to Yamoussoukro
Lome to Lagos - 2275km/1400mi
Misc :
Total : 17 000 Mugu Miles (27 000km)
x7 x2 x8
"MAY YOUR BLOOD BE SHARED AMONG DOGS AND WOOIS.
YOU FACKING SON OF THE DIVEL YOU ARE MORE STUPID." - Broda Michael
Mr Bigg's is dead! Long live Mr Bigg's! |
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foo
Elite Baiter
Joined: 12 Nov 2009
Posts: 1271
Location: Itteh Bitteh Kitteh Citteh
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:17 am |
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NickTheCop wrote: |
Raga Man wrote: |
I'm not a cop or an attorney but I would think attempt to defraud is a criminal act. That could be demonstrated rather easily. |
Demonstrated how? If bullshitting people on the internet was a crime, then we'd all need to be in hiding. |
Looks like I'm a bit late to this discussion, but:
18 USC Sec. 1349 wrote: |
Any person who attempts or conspires to commit any offense under this chapter [of laws against fraud] shall be subject to the same penalties as those prescribed for the offense, the commission of which was the object of the attempt or conspiracy. |
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Unopenable image file | mtcntool | IBMP
"Having acknowledge your email with the content well noted and understood,see we have had enough off this shit from you." --Lamido Sanusi
"i want to scam you ! please understand . i am scamer !" --a scamer
"shit happens. but there's always a silver lining" --Slightly |
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NickTheCop
Elite Baiter
Joined: 05 Sep 2008
Posts: 2002
Location: The City Where Dreams Go To Die
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:58 am |
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^^ Talk doesn't cut it. You must remember that there actually needs to be a case to go to court. When I say "case", I don't mean that the crime has to exist (which it obviously does). I mean that a prosecutor would have to have all of the information and, with it, convince a jury (every last member) beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant WOULD HAVE really done it. The best defense would be, "I was just kidding, your honor".
Don't get me wrong, it's not impossible, but the failure rate in such a case would just be too high for the DAs to even pick it up. But I guess that depends on your county. I know it would never happen in Sac County, for example. Most minor possession charges here don't even go to court, and that's WITH all of the evidence.
There are also many other factors. One could write a book about this, but I'll just stop here.
DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer. Take everything I say with a grain of salt. |
_________________ Dougie Mac - 16 000km/10 000mi - Malaysia to Cairo, Egypt
Nodo - Lagos to Cotonou - with P.P3t3rs
Lagos to Abuja to Maiduguri - 3050km/1900mi
Broda Michael - 1500km/900mi - Lome to Lagos
-I LOST EVERYTHING THAT NIGHT JUST BECAUSE OF YOU.
BJ - Lome to Abidjan to Yamoussoukro
Lome to Lagos - 2275km/1400mi
Misc :
Total : 17 000 Mugu Miles (27 000km)
x7 x2 x8
"MAY YOUR BLOOD BE SHARED AMONG DOGS AND WOOIS.
YOU FACKING SON OF THE DIVEL YOU ARE MORE STUPID." - Broda Michael
Mr Bigg's is dead! Long live Mr Bigg's! |
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foo
Elite Baiter
Joined: 12 Nov 2009
Posts: 1271
Location: Itteh Bitteh Kitteh Citteh
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:27 am |
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convince a jury (every last member) beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant WOULD HAVE really done it. |
"I was just kidding" doesn't sound like it would hold up in court, especially with the usual "my grandmother died" "that's nice, now hurry up and send the money!" crap we tend to get from lads. As the emails would show (you did print out the emails for evidence, right?) the lad was trying to get the baiter to send money to pay nonexistent fees to get a fund that does not exist. Not looking good for the lad's case. Then again, I'm not a lawyer either.
If nothing else, it might get in the news and raise awareness of scams. |
_________________ *15 []*244
Unopenable image file | mtcntool | IBMP
"Having acknowledge your email with the content well noted and understood,see we have had enough off this shit from you." --Lamido Sanusi
"i want to scam you ! please understand . i am scamer !" --a scamer
"shit happens. but there's always a silver lining" --Slightly |
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NickTheCop
Elite Baiter
Joined: 05 Sep 2008
Posts: 2002
Location: The City Where Dreams Go To Die
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:42 am |
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foo123 wrote: |
If nothing else, it might get in the news and raise awareness of scams. |
At what cost? Trials may seem "free" because no one is asked to pay fees for them, but they are very expensive. That money has to come from somewhere, right?
foo123 wrote: |
"I was just kidding" doesn't sound like it would hold up in court.... As the emails would show (you did print out the emails for evidence, right?) the lad was trying to get the baiter to send money to pay nonexistent fees to get a fund that does not exist. |
E-mails are weak evidence, especially for a crime that never happened. As silly as "I was just kidding" sounds, there's really not much the prosecutors could counter with. By that same token, couldn't YOU find yourself on trial for promising lads great things?
I really don't want to get too far into this because, again, I'm not a lawyer. If you truly are interested in this topic, I suggest you get someone that works in your district (prosecutor, judge, investigator, assistant, whatever) and talk to them about it. You'll get the best information that way, and find out how things work in general. This may sound incredibly nerdy, but it's a very educational thing to do. |
_________________ Dougie Mac - 16 000km/10 000mi - Malaysia to Cairo, Egypt
Nodo - Lagos to Cotonou - with P.P3t3rs
Lagos to Abuja to Maiduguri - 3050km/1900mi
Broda Michael - 1500km/900mi - Lome to Lagos
-I LOST EVERYTHING THAT NIGHT JUST BECAUSE OF YOU.
BJ - Lome to Abidjan to Yamoussoukro
Lome to Lagos - 2275km/1400mi
Misc :
Total : 17 000 Mugu Miles (27 000km)
x7 x2 x8
"MAY YOUR BLOOD BE SHARED AMONG DOGS AND WOOIS.
YOU FACKING SON OF THE DIVEL YOU ARE MORE STUPID." - Broda Michael
Mr Bigg's is dead! Long live Mr Bigg's! |
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foo
Elite Baiter
Joined: 12 Nov 2009
Posts: 1271
Location: Itteh Bitteh Kitteh Citteh
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:46 am |
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^^ All valid points. I must concede this argument to you
Did any of the other interesting ideas from this thread ever happen, by the way? |
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Unopenable image file | mtcntool | IBMP
"Having acknowledge your email with the content well noted and understood,see we have had enough off this shit from you." --Lamido Sanusi
"i want to scam you ! please understand . i am scamer !" --a scamer
"shit happens. but there's always a silver lining" --Slightly |
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