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Craig007
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:25 pm |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7819230.stm
For the love of Christ. Why would anyone want this to happen? And what implications could it have on baiting?
I normally hate the civil liberties, human rights hippies, although in this case, I happen to agree.
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This degree of storage is equivalent to having access to every second, every minute, every hour of your life," he said.
"People have to worry about the scale, the virtuality of your life being exposed to about 500 public authorities |
That sums it up. Knowing the Governement, someone from MI5 will leave all our info on a train. |
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Pastor Frank
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:46 pm |
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The firms will have to store the information and make it available to any public body which makes a lawful request, which could include police, local councils and health authorities. |
Dear Pastor Frank,
It has come to our attention that you have been eating far too much bacon. Recent studies have shown that a diet high in fat can lead to...... |
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Rodus
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:54 pm |
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I wonder if this is just going to be for the ISP's own email systems and not effect Yahool, Google et al. Even if the big web based email co's are affected, just set up the addy and log onto it through a proxy. No trail.
This kind of thing is hardly new, just Google 'Echelon'. |
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jojobean
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:54 pm |
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We'll just have to get into the spamming business in order to make the number of emails going around too high.
This is ridiculous indeed. |
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spot
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:55 pm |
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You should read the comments about it !
LONG BBC LINK
It puts our PWTs to shame
I can't find one yet from a baiter with multi accounts |
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Craig007
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:56 pm |
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@Rodus, I think if GMail have servers in the UK it will apply to them, but if they are anywhere else, methinks not.
I'm sure using a proxy won't be untraceable either, to be honest. The ISP will have a record of you going onto a site with a list of proxys.
@ Spot, you know I completely agree with the comments that I can see (i.e this is BAD) |
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Rodus
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:57 pm |
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^^shouldnt do as the proxy remote loads the site, ISP shouldnt be able to see what you're up too. |
_________________ I will kiss you romance u,suck and penetrate u - Williams Muyeke
now am as poor as a church rat - Lou1s Mar1on
I AM FINANCIALLY DEAD RIGHT AWAY - Louis in Accra
u can keep sending money to Gomer and leave me alone - Agent Smith cracks up
Lou1s Mar1on - Lagos to Accra (satellite IP) - "so, what i need to do to get out of these place?"
- 18 mths: Louis
The*Catb1ngo Hotel*
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Craig007
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:58 pm |
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They will probably require a passport for that soon...(EDIT: Rodus had a different comment there 30 seconds ago!)
I might start a petition on the PMs website, although my r/l info might be compromised becuase I told you this
As much as the next guy, I want to stop terrorism and crime, but this isn't the way to do it. |
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Wulugu or Bust Safari- Lagos, Nigeria to Paga, Ghana and Tokwari, Ghana X2-3800mi. "I'm leaving this bullshit area"
- Accra to Cotonou - 430 miles
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CHERRIE MENTOR PROGRAM |
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Pastor Frank
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:03 pm |
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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin |
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Ima Baeder
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:03 pm |
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I can't imagine this would affect web based email like yahoo. What if I'm in the US using yahoo.co.uk, or in the UK using yahoo.ca?
I also don't see what useful information they're going to get from just the email trail without the content.
As said in the article, the money would be much better used to specifically combat internet crime. |
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Connie L. Gus
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:08 pm |
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Time for the tin foil hats. Is this really going to happen or is someone just stirring up the kettle?
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Reports have suggested the government has even bigger plans for data retention called the Interception Modernisation Programme.
It could involve one central database, gathering details on every text sent, e-mail sent, phone call made and website visited. |
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OxygenDeprived
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:11 pm |
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The e-mail's content will not be stored |
What is the point of keeping track of who sent anything if you don't even keep the contents of the email? |
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bill2
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:24 pm |
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I feel sorry for the guys who have to read them all and evaluate the contents of it, in all possible languages! But it is an important thing to waste tax money and man power on, that's for sure They must be pissed they can't tax the scam money.
Next thing all telephone conversations taped and telephones registered, think of the job opportunities 75% of the population checking on 25% +(75% checkers) and the the elite squad than checks the checkers of checkers. The snail mail volume will pick up so we'll have to read those too, which will make the snail mail really slow
Good thinking there, I should sent him and email In code of course, you want them to earn their money and who doesn't like a challenge
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Rodus
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:37 pm |
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This is far more worrying
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5439604.ece |
_________________ I will kiss you romance u,suck and penetrate u - Williams Muyeke
now am as poor as a church rat - Lou1s Mar1on
I AM FINANCIALLY DEAD RIGHT AWAY - Louis in Accra
u can keep sending money to Gomer and leave me alone - Agent Smith cracks up
Lou1s Mar1on - Lagos to Accra (satellite IP) - "so, what i need to do to get out of these place?"
- 18 mths: Louis
The*Catb1ngo Hotel*
*My Church*
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Craig007
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Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:39 pm |
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I won't comment. Actions speak louder than words, and the only actions I can do here are:
Oh God, I'd love to go political |
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Wulugu or Bust Safari- Lagos, Nigeria to Paga, Ghana and Tokwari, Ghana X2-3800mi. "I'm leaving this bullshit area"
- Accra to Cotonou - 430 miles
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jojobean
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:44 pm |
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This is the scariest part:
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The strategy will allow French, German and other EU forces to ask British officers to hack into someone’s UK computer and pass over any material gleaned. |
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Christ Ghana-Chad
Miracle Benin-Chad
Omar Edo-Abeche
Adamu Lagos-Abeche
Emi - S Africa-Egypt-Sudan 10k miles
Chris Dakar-Niger-BF-Cameroon-Lagos-Mali-Nairobi 9.6k miles
Kevin Accra- BF x2, Togo x2, Kumasi x3, Bolgatanga, Benin City, Tamale x2 5k miles x 6
Kenny 3k miles- dont f*ck me up about the payment plz. i have a policy about that. I JUST GOT A SMALL GOAT TODAY AND ITS IN MY HOUSE NOW. i lobve the goat.
Ben 2.5k miles
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Craig007
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:45 pm |
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Hehe, they are too pussy to do anything with it. Surrender monkeys |
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Wulugu or Bust Safari- Lagos, Nigeria to Paga, Ghana and Tokwari, Ghana X2-3800mi. "I'm leaving this bullshit area"
- Accra to Cotonou - 430 miles
100% RISK FREE TRANSACTION
CHERRIE MENTOR PROGRAM |
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jojobean
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:49 pm |
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Sorry to all the French we have offended. I actually think someone I am quite fond of on this forum is French. |
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Christ Ghana-Chad
Miracle Benin-Chad
Omar Edo-Abeche
Adamu Lagos-Abeche
Emi - S Africa-Egypt-Sudan 10k miles
Chris Dakar-Niger-BF-Cameroon-Lagos-Mali-Nairobi 9.6k miles
Kevin Accra- BF x2, Togo x2, Kumasi x3, Bolgatanga, Benin City, Tamale x2 5k miles x 6
Kenny 3k miles- dont f*ck me up about the payment plz. i have a policy about that. I JUST GOT A SMALL GOAT TODAY AND ITS IN MY HOUSE NOW. i lobve the goat.
Ben 2.5k miles
Misc Germany-Holland, Atlanta, Beijing-ChangZhou, London-Glasgow, TIMBUKTU x 2 |
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Craig007
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:50 pm |
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Well everyone knows I'm a bastard anyway so.... Apologies to all the cheeses.
Anyway, this isn't the PWT. Serious issues are on the tables! |
_________________ CAN VISA BE GIVING IN THE PLANE? YOUR QUEEN ELIZABETH CAN NOT TAKE VISA IN THE PLANE,TALKLESS OF YOU - WILLIAM PAUL
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Wulugu or Bust Safari- Lagos, Nigeria to Paga, Ghana and Tokwari, Ghana X2-3800mi. "I'm leaving this bullshit area"
- Accra to Cotonou - 430 miles
100% RISK FREE TRANSACTION
CHERRIE MENTOR PROGRAM |
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spot
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:51 pm |
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Can anyone remember the reaction from ISPs when there were hints that they should monitor P2P music downloads and make their records available to the "authorities"
I don't think they did it then, and I don't think they'll do the e-mail thing now. |
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Craig007
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:52 pm |
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Well Virgin Media (My ISP) sent 'warning' letters to customers who the suspected, threatining termination. Also, anything for the money - £70 million to the co-operative ones. |
_________________ CAN VISA BE GIVING IN THE PLANE? YOUR QUEEN ELIZABETH CAN NOT TAKE VISA IN THE PLANE,TALKLESS OF YOU - WILLIAM PAUL
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Wulugu or Bust Safari- Lagos, Nigeria to Paga, Ghana and Tokwari, Ghana X2-3800mi. "I'm leaving this bullshit area"
- Accra to Cotonou - 430 miles
100% RISK FREE TRANSACTION
CHERRIE MENTOR PROGRAM |
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bill2
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:54 pm |
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@Rodus, It's now in the newspaper, that means they have been doing it for a long time but due to a slight mishap are now forced to make it public.
Windows XP and higher Users check COMON or COHMON in your register, that's where BillyG made the back door. Storage in dir Catroot and Catroot2 of system32 dir.
Norton Users check WholeSecurity in your registry, that quietly keeps track of your computers well being and then some. Read your agreement, you said yes to it when installing or updating the files, it pays to read the fine print sometimes.
Your own PC is an entertainment system that watches over you, steals bandwidth and in a few years might bite you back |
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music man
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:29 pm |
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Whilst I can see the "privacy" issues here I don't see how its going to affect baiting or most people in general. This is just another Government " look at what we are doing to crack down on terrorism" spin machine special.
I can't see how the three blokes and a blind dog at GCHQ are going to find the time to read all of everyone's mails! |
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Craig007
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Posted:
Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:31 pm |
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Well they no doubt will blow more money on a computer to do it for them. |
_________________ CAN VISA BE GIVING IN THE PLANE? YOUR QUEEN ELIZABETH CAN NOT TAKE VISA IN THE PLANE,TALKLESS OF YOU - WILLIAM PAUL
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Wulugu or Bust Safari- Lagos, Nigeria to Paga, Ghana and Tokwari, Ghana X2-3800mi. "I'm leaving this bullshit area"
- Accra to Cotonou - 430 miles
100% RISK FREE TRANSACTION
CHERRIE MENTOR PROGRAM |
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bill2
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Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:59 pm |
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^tried automatic translations lately? No way that is good enough to get the right "tone" of an email and really understand what is said, we're in the clear there.
But 911 has set a trend world wide in cutting back on privacy rights, just because they can't control one end, they start limiting the other end, as usual. |
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