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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Good thoughts and intentions Began. Unfortunately or fortunately as the case may be, this bait will have finished before a conference could be organized. What about all the baiters who are not from the Midlands or England for that matter? We're doing well. We are up his nose as they say. Just keep on doing what we're doing. Go for your angle Began. It adds variety and distracts him a little. You can be the comic element and I mean that nicely. Army intelligence=oxymoron.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:15 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I have managed to screw up the WUxfer for a couple of days trying to get him to give me a new bank account but no luck.

I do have a new lad involved though, with an email addy that bears no relation to the handle.

Anyone else getting the new modality? Perhaps our lad is getting so much mail he has to delegate some to a new bod.

Has anyone made him go for a safari to the WU office yet? I can only delay for so long before I have to give him an MTCN number to try. How did it go?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I suspect this lad is getting so busy right now he doesn't know what to do with himself... Which is exactly what we want. I can't wait for him to come to the realization (when we let him know, that is) that he isn't gonna get a single penny from us....

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Personally I may drop a bait with no reason given - or I stick to my modality and exchange insults - then follow with a request to continue now we're friends again, but I never let them know I'm a baiter. It gives them a release and certainty if you do. I want that little seed of doubt gnawing inside their brain.

This guy will waste a ton of time trying to find which offers were real and worthwhile. Why help him ? Just my personal view.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The address 264 Waterloo Road in London is very interesting. Could it be a drop box? Dr Max is setting up a bait for that. Any Londoners who are close? a walk by or discreet enquiries would be excellent. Would be good to know if this is a red herring. Utmost care and not alone please!
If it even looks dodgy please keep walking.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^264 Waterloo Road is a computer and software retail outlet called Ateo...

http://www.londononline.co.uk/profiles/14501/

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I've started putting some pressure on the lad. Fr. Ke11y was very annoyed that his offer to meet-up with him to discuss a donation of five million Euros was ignored. What a snub! He only wanted to know how the money was going to be spent. So, Fr. Ke11y has done 'some checking' and found out that this is all a scam and has informed the police.

Maybe he will now think twice about dropping donors as it tips them off that there is something amiss.

I doubt if there is any conscience in that tiny brain of his but I left him with this thought...

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Jeff wrote:
The address 264 Waterloo Road in London is very interesting. Could it be a drop box? Dr Max is setting up a bait for that. Any Londoners who are close? a walk by or discreet enquiries would be excellent. Would be good to know if this is a red herring. Utmost care and not alone please!
If it even looks dodgy please keep walking.


I was going to drop in there on Saturday to see if they had any Vista upgrades but thinking it through, even we find that they are Africans or Cypriots, what can we do? Not a lot. I could be there in half an hour and take some photos but I really don't see the point as the information gleaned isn't worth the risk of getting it.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

It was the flat to let bit that I thought interesting. I would assume and assume only, that that computer shop was legit unless anyone knows anything different. Who comes and goes to the flat? Is there a mailbox there? Strange to pluck that address for nothing. Dr Max is having a play on that score but it would have been good to eliminate this asap.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:06 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Jeff wrote:
...Who comes and goes to the flat? .


Which one?

From a search of the Post Office website....

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* Flat 1, 264, Waterloo Road, LONDON, SE1 8RP
* Flat 2, 264, Waterloo Road, LONDON, SE1 8RP
* Flat 3, 264, Waterloo Road, LONDON, SE1 8RP
* Flat 4, 264, Waterloo Road, LONDON, SE1 8RP
* Flat 5, 264, Waterloo Road, LONDON, SE1 8RP
* Flat 6, 264, Waterloo Road, LONDON, SE1 8RP
* Flat 7, 264, Waterloo Road, LONDON, SE1 8RP
* Flat 8, 264, Waterloo Road, LONDON, SE1 8RP
* Flat 9, 264, Waterloo Road, LONDON, SE1 8RP
* Flat 10, 264, Waterloo Road, LONDON, SE1 8RP
* Flat 11, 264, Waterloo Road, LONDON, SE1 8RP
* Flat 12, 264, Waterloo Road, LONDON, SE1 8RP


http://www.postoffice.co.uk/portal/po/addressfinder?pageId=pol_adfresult&catId=20700386&_requestid=91653

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:33 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I ran the IP in the new addy involved and it goes to the same Kenyan company. It's a satellite ISP. So our lad could easily be in Nigeria, as we all know they use the Turkish Satcom quite alot.

Our mugu doesn't know the second lad that is asking for the money! An interesting development............

*Edit* Could it be possible twist, having a new lad trying to chop the dollar? The name used by the new lad is *snipped - no longer relevant*, if anyone else wants to think about making our mugu squirm. I need to make sure that our lad doesn't have his wires crossed first, and really doesn't know the new lad. If he does it could blow your bait, so hold off until I know for sure, eh.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:44 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^ I only saw the Kenyan/South African ISP in the first few emails then he changed to the satellite provider(s) based in Israel and Turkey. As he sends mail on Saturdays and Sundays, he's unlikely to be in a net cafe. - on the other hand, what individual could afford to have a satellite internet connection at home unless it is shared across a village or something?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Maybe he owns an Internet cafe? Or perhaps he is a friend on an Internet cafe owner.

Edit: Is he stupid or what? I just got this from him - after offering him 900,000 rubals I can gather from my friends:

Quote:
Thanks for your email.Please i will like you to go to your bank and convert the Rubals to Dollers.I will be waiting for your reply.


That's great actually. A victim getting such an answer will drop him immediately. I think he is all confused now.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Nick L Cadmium wrote:

I do have a new lad involved though. Someone calling themselves Ange1, with an email addy that bears no relation to the handle, [email protected]



I'm trying to figure out where this "angel1" Lad fits into the picture.

Can you let me know what the backstory is ?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Just in...

Code:
Good day,
Please We have not secured an American account Yet.Please make You Donation Through This account.
ABBEY BANK
129 HIGH STREET LEWISHAM SE13 LONDON
ACCOUNT NUMBER:16807517
SORT CODE:090126
ACCOUNT NAME; MRS  .C.  TAKPI
 
 
The account Holders Address 91 Waterloo Road London SE1 8XP
 
after making the payment please get back at me with the payment slip you use in making the donation.
 
Regards
Allen Robert

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Okay, I rang Abbey to try to put a stop on this but they won't talk to me because I am not an Abbey customer. They want me to write to Head Office. If I ever see an Abbey customer services person lying in the road, I will write for an ambulance - straight away, with a First Class stamp even.

Any Abbey customers out there?

Email going to Alan now!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Interesting, the IP address on this last one WAS Nigeria. I have sent Alan the whole trail.

Note how the address is also in Waterloo Road and it's a Mrs. A cleaner?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

WHOIS results for 196.207.132.3
Generated by www.DNSstuff.com
Location: Nigeria (high) [City: ]


Using 0 day old cached answer (or, you can get fresh results).
Hiding E-mail address (you can get results with the E-mail address).

African Network Information Center NET196 (NET-196-0-0-0-0)
196.0.0.0 - 196.255.255.255
RIPE Network Coordination Centre RIPE-ERX-196-200-0-0 (NET-196-200-0-0-1)
196.200.0.0 - 196.207.255.255

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-02-04 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Emma, I just got the same account info. He "hasn't secured an American account yet". Or, in truth, he "hasn't compromised an American account yet".

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Just checked and I have that account sent as well to my new character. Offering more money seems to be the key to keeping him interested.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
91 Waterloo Road London SE1 8XP


That's the address of 3i Group.

http://www.londononline.co.uk/profiles/653/

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Just to help me with my "Jigsaw puzzle"

If anyone is writing to, or receiving mails from any other address than these

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

Could you please post here or PM me

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

hmmmmmmm regarding the address data that Emma posted.

<<<<<< deleted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

EDIT .... a search on 192.com has been done and I have the results

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^Is it a good idea to post somebody's home address and telephone number who may be totally unrelated to the scam?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Annie hasn't got back to me yet about the flat. Iwill ring her tonight.She is a bit reluctant. I told her just to make a normal enquiry but to speak Greek to them. A nice query of ,"Oh where are you from?" ought to get an unsuspecting reply. Evena has had no answer today. Unless he is slobbering over the boobs!

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