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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:08 pm

Still playing this one straight. I'll try and get a bank account downunder, unless someone else wants this region. My character is on the move so I can fill any gaps in the world map. I haven't told him where I am yet.

@Jeff PM me if you want me to specify another region.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:29 pm

Me too Emma

Quote:

Good Day,
Thanks For Your Email.Please Send The Payment To PANELLINIA BANK
GOUNARI & ETHN,
ANTISTASEOS
PIRAEUS,GREECE
SWIFT: PNEL GRAA
BENEF: HADELOY INVEST & CONTRACTING INC REF: FACING AFRICA
A/C: GR08 0491 0200 0000 0339 7250 023

Please we Use this account To receive Donation From International donors.(donors living in European Countries).Please remember to scan and attach your Payment slip send it to my email address as an evidence that Donation was made.

Regards
Allen Robert

Iam going to try this:- "I am sorry but I am away from home. We only get about 8 hours off a day while doing the filming. I can't get to a scanner.
The money had been sent direct to the address on the website via world pay, hope you have received this initial down payment. Could you please acknowledge reciept when it arrives ." and that might give him some concern if he thinks it is all going to the wrong place. After all it is about causing maximum panic and being told that, along with the promise of a further payment would be slightly alarming? I believe it may cause some major confusion especially if someone else did it too.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:55 pm

My latest email to $41t head.

Quote:

I security edit i am afraid

With a bit of luck this will HURT !

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:57 am

This is where we are at the moment. I am happy to say that I got a lot of PM's. The results showed that we are well spread across the social spectrum from churches to businesses, from playboys to charities. I am pleased with that result. He will not be so wary now.
As Emma siad, he would rather a few thousand by wuxfer or mg than promises of millions. It was obvious that a bank account or two would appear. Those of you who have been given bank accounts, please send them to Alan with full headers. [email protected] He will shut them. Delay for a while and then tell this scum that you have a problem depositing the money.
It is imperative that we remember what we're about and that is costing this lad time and money. Every email he has to answer of ours and every shut bank account (with proceeds) he loses and has to reopen hurts him and most importantly of all gives him so much less time to get victims' money. The noma charity benefits enormously just from that.
The chances of getting handcuffs on him are remote but we can harass the crap out of him.
My PM box has run hot with this scam. I just want to say thanks for being such caring people. clapping

That's what makes eater so great.
Just keep on his case and do what you do so well.

Master Baiter Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 170

I'm thinking since my other baits seem to be moving rather slow at the moment, I might have to jump on this idiot as well..... But gently, and very straight.....

We'll see what he thinks when my church wants to hold a fundraiser for this deadly disease.

Mr. Green

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:12 am

An idea to cause some alarm and confusion perhaps. I haven't had bank detaisl yet, but I just wondered if when I get details to advise the lad that it appears on a French bank blacklist of possible terrorist/crminal accounts at the bank and cannot be used.

This would freak him out that he may lose half his money and get him trying to contact all other donors to change the payment details. It could also smoke out any other 'mule' accounts he has up his sleeve.

That would keep him busy, do you think ? Comments please.

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:38 am

asked if Noma was found in Somalia. The reply:

Quote:

Good Day,
Thanks For Your Email.Like i said before it is found in africa that means that it is found in Somalia and it is also found In west africa and all the Third world countries.
Regards
Allen Robert

Tetchy! I guess Malcolm will have to explain why he is so keen to contribute to saving Somalian kids...

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:02 am

Please don't Gomer. I am working on a different approach to the details above which others may get. Refer to Jeff if you wish to know. There is a possible kill here. Don't tell him anything. You could tell him you used World Pay like I did and that might make him shuffle about in discomfort if he thinks he is messing up and missing out. I am expecting he will be mailing me some frantic attempts to stop the leak. However he might be a tad confused if other leaks appear. Would be nice to think that Noma can get all the money he has conned, and that's my current thinking. Unless of course those conned actually get it back in the end if it is traceable. Hadley Investments is a real London based company as far as I know. Using one of my baiter ID's email addys I have contacted them. I am waiting to hear back before sending them any details. If it pops up fraud again I'll be back with the info. Remember folks we are potboiling just now since other things are going on. I personally don't want him to run and hide only to resurface like the scum he is. He will have a harder time in a bit. The Herefordshire MP has an involvment with supporting African medical charities so I am working on his support to trigger some diplomatic efforts that will involve reputable politicians in Nigeria and Kenya. THis one could get his collar felt with some luck!

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:05 am

The basterd is based in Afrika but has connections to London and Greece. Could somebody re-check the name from the guy who is cashing his WU monies in LONDON???:

Quote:

Good day xxxx,
Like i said before i am not in london now to send the receipts i will send it when i get to london but for now we are helping the children of africa that are living with NOMA.Please remember to send the information that you use in sending the money.

Dr.Chris

xxxxxyahoo.de> wrote:

Dear Dr. Cross!

Thanks for your valuable information.

I have succeeded to collect 3.276,--
(threethousandtwohundredseventysix) Euro so far and
now I wait for some more people to donate money for
the project.

I can send the money this Wednesday by Western Union.

Is it possible for you to send us receipts for the
donations so the donors can deduct their donations
from their income-tax?

HALLELUJAHW

Mrsxxxxx

--- CHRIS CROSS schrieb:

> Ok matha, they can send the donation via western
> union but they should send it via the name Frank
> Austine.Frank Austine is our financial Secretly and
> you can make the donation through his name as i am
> in Africa now for the Program.
> After they have sent the Donation Please collect
> The senders name,The amount sent,The MTCN
> Number(Control Number)The Receiver name which will
> be Frank Austine.The Secret Question and answer.I
> await Your Responds.
>
>
> Dr.Chris
x
> xxxxxwrote:
> Dear Doctor Cross!
>
> What you are telling me is very much confusing.
>
> We really want to help but every day you come up
> with
> something new regards to our willingnes to donate
> money for the children.
>
> best wishes for you and the project
>
> Mrsxxxx
>
>
> --- CHRIS CROSS schrieb:
>
> > Mxxxx,
> > i just want you to undersatnd that it is not safe
> > to make donation through western union or via
> credit
> > card The credit card information that was provided
> > in a subpage in our website is for this website
> > www.altran.com and www.windsofhope.org not for
> > www.no-noma.org we included this website just to
> > help them to get publicity they are not
> > International Noma ok.We decided to remove our own
> > credit card online donation because of what i told
> > you.Please let you and your pastor collect this
> > Donation and send it as one regarding the Greco
> > account Detail.Greco, this is a company that is
> > helping us out in the africa project and it is
> this
> > company that owns the place that we will be using
> > for surgery(treatment of children with Noma In
> > africa From 15 to 24\12\2006) which i contacted
> you
> > about and which has started.The reason for naming
> > this account Greco is To specify what it is for.It
> > is not the Greco that own the account it is
> > International Noma Federation.Please once again
> > dont send money to us through western Union if
> they
> > want to donate they can make use of the
> > account.Please Ignore my first mail which i sent
> > today proving the western union we have lost so
> many
> > donation through western Union.Note: Make use of
> the
> > account.
> >
> > Dr.Chris
> >
xxxxx wrote:
> > Dear Dr. Chriss Cross!
> >
> > Thanks for your last mail.
> >
> > In the meantime we have educated our church goers
> > about the noma disese and that your noble
> > organization
> > is helping those poor children.
> >
> > We have about 20 People who want to make donations
> > for
> > Xmas. And this year 2006 we want to donate our
> Xmas
> > money for Noma organization.
> >
> > I have been surfing your webpage and it surprises
> me
> > that you ask for donations directly online. Now
> you
> > tell me that its not safe.
> >
> > You also say that Western Union is not safe.
> >
> > I am also very confused about the fact that the
> > account details you gave are not mentioned on your
> > webpage. There is also no link at all to Greco
> > company.
> >
> > Look my donors have mostly credit cards and want
> to
> > make their donations from their home in a
> > comfortable
> > way without going to a bank office whatsoever.
> >
> > Please tell me what details I shall give them if
> > they
> > want to donate directly or with Western Union.
> >
> > We never ever had encounterd any problems with
> > criminals when ever we have sent money with
> Western
> > Union or with credit cards.
> >
> > Thanks alot for your valuable advise and wish you
> > all
> > the best in your fight against noma disese!
> >
> > Mrs.xxxx

> > --- CHRIS CROSS schrieb:
> >
> > > Good day Matha,
> > > Regarding your question about donors sending
> their
> > > donations.Please dont let any one send money to
> us
> > > through online.why i am saying this is that
> online
> > > and western union is not safe for donation for
> > > now.Some criminals will use some soft ware in
> our
> > > website to collect the credit card information
> and
> > > when they collect those information they will
> > start
> > > using our donors credit card.please collect
> their
> > > donation and send it through our account.
> > > NOTE:Dont also make use of the western Union.
> > > I await your responds
> > >
> > > Dr.Chris

> xxxxx wrote:

> > > Dear Dr. Chriss Cross!
> > >
> > > Thanks for your explanation about the account.
> > >
> > > What can we do if some church-goers want to send
> > > money
> > > online directly with using their credit cards or
> > > with
> > > Western Union only?
> > >
> > > Best wishes and keep up your good work!
> > >
> > > Mr. xxxxx
> > >

> > > --- CHRIS CROSS schrieb:
> > >
> > > > Good evening Matha,
> > > > Nice to hear from you.Regarding to your
> question
> > > > the account that i sent to you was map out to
> be
> > > the
> > > > account we are going to use for this december
> > > > program which i contacted you for and i am now
> > in
> > > > africa for the surgery with other doctors.The
> > > > program will run from tomorrow being friday
> 15th
> > > to
> > > > 22.Please send the Fund to the account that i
> > have
> > > > proveded for you.Please remember to scan and
> > > attache
> > > > the payment slip as a prove that you made the
> > > > donation.
> > > >
> > > > Dr.Chris

at least my last work with the lad had some small results: the HSBC �bank account might be arrested in the meantime (that�s why he has to use other accounts) and the REAL no-noma organization has put a BIG WARNING about that lad on their webpage:

www.nonoma.org

Master Baiter Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 113

I have also had the Greek bank account details,

Forwarded to Alan at aa419

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:03 am

I am very HAPPY to tell you that many REAL noma organizations/hospitals are doing BIG warnings about our lad on their webpages as can be seen at the end of this webpage:

http://www.bentbay.dk/norma_africa.htm

This will kick him out of this "busines" for quite a while Evil or Very Mad

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:06 am

I have been onto the London West End police and to the HSBC Police Liaison team this morning.

The police were not at all interested (this has been my previous experience) and they passed the buck onto the bank.

HSBC really know how to make reporting crime difficult! I was passed round no less than five numbers at HSBC to get to the correct person at the bank. The number I was given for the 'Police Liaison Team' said 'all calls to this number are barred'! and I had to go round the loop again. It has taken an hour in total!

I have sent him all the details along with headers.

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:17 am

Emma Stralian wrote:

I have been onto the London West End police and to the HSBC Police Liaison team this morning.

The police were not at all interested (this has been my previous experience) and they passed the buck onto the bank.

HSBC really know how to make reporting crime difficult.

That�s normal. Without having a "VICTIM" /means somebody who has suffered from a crime the police can�t do almost nothing at all against the lads. - And the banks don�t want to loose a "good" customer with who the bank can make money.

Sad experience but that�s the way the cookie crumbles.

BIG thanks anyway for your time and efforts spent on this case/matter Twisted Evil

We are BAITERS and have more ways how to deal with such a scumbag - (and this is what makes me happy to be a part of this nice community here on eater) Evil or Very Mad

Master Baiter Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 113

According to http://www.currencysolutions.co.uk/index.asp?PageID=371

the SWIFT code of the Greek bank account given is invalid.

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:34 am

I am checking on Hadeloy investment and contracting company And quess what. They are listed by Alibaba- see this here !
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99662&highlight=alibaba

I am going to have a word with Mark Edwards of Hadeloy later on. This may be a genuine company but I am not sure. The plot thickens as they say. Please don't touch the Bank yet.

Master Baiter Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 113

I've been checking into this as well.

The address on Alibaba appears to be fake, as there is no Hempford Close anywhere in London.

Companies House have no record of this company being registered in the UK.

There is no listing on Yell.com or in Directory Enquiries.

Can't see it being legit

Master Baiter Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 113

@Began Steele

PM received - asked alan to hold fire.

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:14 am

What a merry-go-round!!!!

For your information.

SCD6 (Serious fraud squad) are not interested in fraud below �750,000
Local police are not interested in fraud originating outside the UK
They tell me to contact the bank.

HSBC are not interested in fraud that is not to do with credit cards. I've just had a very irate conversation with someone from HSBC about why it is so difficult to report fraud.
They say report it to the police.

I think I should report it to the press. What do you think? Anyone have any press contacts?

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:02 pm

a "Red Head" uk daily paper [email protected]

They love things like this ... and if they don't take up this actual scam, I'm sure they would like to hear about the reaction of the Banks and Police to Emma's phone calls

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:32 pm

Anyone got any clues before I ring this number? The Hadeloy connection number? +44 784-974 9372. However try this ! http://www.alibaba.com/company/10178672/contactinfo.html Same number. Different address that is similar. Which is Lateleys Pub!
Got it ! BOTH FAKE!

Master Baiter Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 113

Also listed as contact number for

Ms Allan Kay
Himetals UK Ltd

Also not listed on Companies House, Yell or directory enquiries

Address is real though

***EDIT*** Phone number unobtainable

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:58 pm

This should really piss him off...

Quote:

Dear Mr Robert,

I arranged the bank transfer for $250,000 as you suggested with my bank yesterday but I have just received a phone call to say that the transfer could not be processed due to 'irregularities'. I'm not sure what that means but to save time, I am going to overnight courier the check I have already made out to your UK address as shown on the facingafrica.org web site. No doubt it can be passed on to the appropriate department from there.

Thank you for providing this opportunity to help.

Best regards,

Jxxxxx Sxxxxxxxx

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:05 pm

I am working on shutting down websites Himetals UK LTD and Hadeloy Invest & Contracts. Both have been reported to Alibaba. Blood starts to flow folks!

Please all, if you get the mail regarding the Greek Bank and Hadeloy Invest & Contracts report them to Alibaba as above, include Himetals UK Ltd which does not exist either. PM me if you want search information, or refer to above posts. Good stuff all. Smile

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:42 pm

Oh dear, he doesn't accept cheques for $250,000.

Quote:

<[email protected]> said:
> Good Day,
> I will contact our accountant so that he will provide me with a new bank
> account so that you can send the money through it.we still dont accept
> cheque we only accept a bank transfer.Thanks for your Understanding
>
> Regards
> Allen Robert

You can't image how well I understand Twisted Evil

Master Baiter Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 113

After complaining that my bank transfer had been rejected because of "irregularities" I got this

Quote:

Good Day,
I will contact our accountant so that he will provide me with a new bank account so that you can send the money through it.

Regards
Allen Robert

Hope it's one we haven't had before
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