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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Has anyone seen this? If it has already been posted then my apologies, please feel free to chastize me. It was posted on a car club forum I belong to.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6150817.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=zdnn
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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"Our position has always been that cybervigilantism can have unfortunate consequences. Naming and shaming can target innocent people. The classic scenario was people (in Portsmouth) mistaking pediatricians for pedophiles. The same can happen on the Internet," Atkinson told ZDNet UK.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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The difficulty with cybervigilantism is this: You spam me to death--you send me viruses--so I finally lose patience and I send you back a virus. But the spam has been proxied through another country's health service--somebody opens the e-mail--and I've just blown that health service apart," Gibson told ZDNet UK.


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possible media backlash if this opinion spreads?

or am i thinking too much Confused

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

We target people who WANT the email to come back to them, unlike the spammers. And we have a no-innocent-third-parties guideline. So that shouldn't apply.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I'd say that as a news article it's a pretty poor effort, cut and pasted from mismatched quotes and verging on gibberish.

The quotes from - Ed Gibson, chief security adviser to Microsoft U.K - (deep intake of breath) are nothing short of bizarre. How does mention of the health service come into his argument, if it is an argument ? Is the health service specifically prone to being used by 419 scammers ? or does saying health service for no apparent reason lend weight to an argument of no substance ?

I note that the article is tagged with 'phishing' without there being any mention of it at all in the article. Looks like a pure google rating mission.

Anyone ever heard a person in favour of 419 scams ?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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you send me viruses--so I finally lose patience and I send you back a virus. But the spam has been proxied through another country's health service

Which is a large part of the reason that Eater has a hard and fast rule against sending virii to scammers, of course. Rolling Eyes

I do find it amusing that most police departments make use of information provided to them by "snitches" who have criminal records a mile long, but shy away from iron clad proof of criminal intent/ acts provided by groups of law abiding citizens simply because someone decided to dub them "vigilantes".

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

GomerPyle wrote:
Anyone ever heard a person in favour of 419 scams ?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:10 am Reply with quoteBack to top

That whole argument is just another way for the authorities to stick their heads in the sand and say 'we are doing all we can. You better let the experts handle it.' Then lump us in with anything else they can think. The virus thing has absolutely nothing to do with us or any anti-419 group we know.
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no guarantee that self-appointed guardians will have information good enough to target those responsible for crimes
We have already proven if they work with us and tell us what they need, we can provide that info. Of course they are the experts and we are just stupid cybernerds.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

GomerPyle wrote:
Anyone ever heard a person in favour of 419 scams ?


I wanted to say "lots of lads" but weasel beat me to it Wink Laughing

Anyhow I could not agree more with all of the above Shocked Embarassed

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Lets face it until the goverment wakens up and starts looking after its own instead of everybody else, they are not going to provide the funding and the expertise to the police to combat such problems as scammers(which is among a long list of items).
Until then its up to those who care and have a modicum of common sense to try and do their best.
I'm sure if Scotland Yard were to donate to the premium membership they would be welcome to join in the forums and give a bit of advice?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:54 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Seems to me that while many people know vaguely about internet scamming, including the cops, they have NO idea about the scale of it. To them it's just a few little old ladies sending off a few hundred dollars now and then. If people realised that this is a multi million dollar business they might regard it as the serious problem it is rather than a strange phenomenon on the itnernet.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Unfortunately I think this one of those situations that wont change until a high profile celebrity or personality is either cleaned out or killed by scammers. We see this head in the sand attitude all the time with any issue the authorities can't or don't want to get a handle on.

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