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 I think I've been moved up the chain (not to the Oga) - EDIT

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Yastreb
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

My bait of the arrogant (http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96193&highlight=valentine just took a new turn.

We were hung up on the question of the Memoranda of Agreement for the work Malcolm Reynolds did supplying weapons and ammunition for the late General Guei. Finally the Lad referred me to a lawyer.

Here's the first message from the lawyer:

Quote:

It is true he has explained to me and I have directed him to ask you for your full details and pass them over to me to enable us prepared the agreement. There is no problem as I have much knowledge of his father's kind of transaction like these one. I have told me not to expose himself in the School and he need total security for his life.
It was a welcome idea when I hear from him, his plan to transaction his business in your Name or firm. I will do my part as a long time Lawyer to his father
Looking forward to receive the information from you.


Here's the one I received today:

Quote:

In our preparation to prepare the contract between you (Malcolm Paul Reynolds) and General Guei and his family. This letter is to confirm our understanding regarding the services this firm has been engaged to provide. I believe an understanding of such matters at the outset is conducive to a harmonious, professional relationship, consequently and courage. You have retained us for a specific purpose we shall guard the boy with all manners.
With these statements for our services, as well as for out-of-pocket expenses, for example, long distance telephone charges, copying charges, filing fees ,postage, facsimile charges, court costs, travel expense or the like, provision for such shall be bear by you until we conclude our work and the fund is finally move from the security company and transfer to you.
Prior to our beginning you’re work on the preparation of the MOA and register it in the Court for reference purpose you will be subject to commitment and Retains fee payment of sum $3,500:00 ( THREE THOUSAND, FIVE HUNDRED UNITED STATES DOLLAR)for the Retainer fee of the legal charges. Please be assured that I will always diligently and faithfully pursue your legal objectives to the best of our ability...
Kindly forward to our accounting officer the amount as information stated beneath:
If you have any questions regarding our engagement and your understanding of the procedures for payment of services rendered and expenses incurred, please call us as soon as possible. We appreciate the opportunity to provide legal services to you AND Little General Guei and his family look forward to continuing our relationship.


I'm certain they're by different guys. The second is close to perfect...

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GeneralAbacha
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

LOL i'd hardly call the second letter perfect. Better perhaps, but still clearly ESL.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Compared to the messages from the Lad himself, it's a major improvement; likewise with the first Lad Lawyer message.

It'll be interesting to see if the quality holds.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have often wondered just how many lads I had going in one bait where they were only pretending to be one or two characters. The differences in writing styles are a dead giveaway. I would presume that the oga is the one with the better English.

Is it possible that an oga might be a "solo" operation? I ask this as that I had one lad who was exceptional in his English all the way thru the bait.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You defenetly have two mugus on the bait. The style as you mentioned is a give away. Dont be surprised if he writes from a different addy

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

So an oga always has good english and if the scammer does not have good english he is not an oga. I must note this for the future.

It could be a boilerplate contact they modified.

Do you know what an oga is?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:37 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I had an Oga logged as a higher-ranking scammer, with the ordinary mugus as the foot soldiers.

The sudden improvement of the English implied (to me) that the original Lad might have brought in help.

If I used the term Oga loosely, and offended against the Baiter's Lexicon, consider me abashed. Wink

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"I aim to misbehave."

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Safari x 4 - Oyenka Chidinma - Lagos to Cotonou; Dickyboi - Lagos to Accra; Femmy - Lagos to Porto Novo; "Woody" - Accra to Singapore
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

An oga is only someone other people call the boss. He doesn't necessarily have any better command of language than the others. Usually some more experience in scamming and access to information the others don't. A good Oga with a large gang doesn't usually get involved with the maga. An oga with only a couple of partners will get involved but will try to stay separate to maintain his authority. Language ability doesn't mean anything. It is his ability to scam that is prized. Many lads fake their language skills to appear dumber to the maga and make scamming them easier.

Your scammer could have brought in help but I doubt an oga would deal directly with you.

I just think if we are going to use terms they should be used correctly and consistently so as not to confuse noobs.

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"i am not a terrorist and your america cia cna also investigate me."
"i am not a terrorist.send the shit stuff and let me get it fillied."

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:06 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Duly noted. I'll try to bear that in mind.

What really bugs me at the moment is that I may have painted myself into a corner on the bait in question...

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"I aim to misbehave."

Asena - Pretty Rose
United Kingdom x5 Spain New Zealand Senegal Ghana x2 Benin Closed lad accounts x 185
Safari x 4 - Oyenka Chidinma - Lagos to Cotonou; Dickyboi - Lagos to Accra; Femmy - Lagos to Porto Novo; "Woody" - Accra to Singapore
Sand Timer x 7: Dufus & Abavana/Capt Joseph Annan/Victor Walla/Ohene Agyekum/James Jeffrey/Peace Akpobor & John Mensah/Tony Kalaby & Addo Gilbert
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
I may have painted myself into a corner on the bait in question...


Use the Lads as a drop-cloth and walk your way back to the open door. If you feel comfortable that you're now higher up the food chain, then you can lie your way out by simply saying, "I never told you that." "You misunderstood my previous communication." etc. etc.

If the Legal Services Agreement was the last communication then you are at the invoice stage. You cannot make payment of the retainer fees without an invoice.
Once the invoice arrives, tell the Lad that you just noticed the "long distance calls and fax charges" clause. That is definitely not going to happen since you are afraid that the Lad will abuse this clause and call you for stupid stuff every 3 hours...(like all of this isn't stupid stuff Laughing )
You want that clause adjusted to a maximum of 3 minutes of long distance calls per week. Nit pick the snot out of him.

The big picture claiming of the funds will get bogged down for weeks while you re-negotiate legal agreements.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Dr Who: noted, and I agree that definitions must be consistent.

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"On the 21st of April 2001, my client? His wife and their three children were involved in a plane crash of Union Transport Africans Flight Boeing 727 in Cotonou, Benin Republic on the December 26,2003" Barrister Olorunshogo Williams, 25 October 2004.

"I am in reciept of your mail,i want you to know that you are really getting on my nerves." Burt Hardley, Wellkang International, 20 November 2007

"Please worry, we have already advice the FBI and they don't need to call you. They are very brianliant and intelident. They will get you soon. " Mr. Paul Rogers, Global Medical Equipment, 20 November 2007

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

A mistake in my post above; I wrote mugu but I meant maga.

Changed.

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"i think you people do not know whom you are talking of,i am not in any terrorist organization or planning any such of terrorist activities."
"i am not a terrorist and your america cia cna also investigate me."
"i am not a terrorist.send the shit stuff and let me get it fillied."

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I've changed the thread title to one more appropriate. The lesson has been heeded. Thanx all.

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I will heed the advice of a polite horse for it is written that more flies are caught with honey than vinegar... although assault carbines and monstrous wolves are still fun.

"I aim to misbehave."

Asena - Pretty Rose
United Kingdom x5 Spain New Zealand Senegal Ghana x2 Benin Closed lad accounts x 185
Safari x 4 - Oyenka Chidinma - Lagos to Cotonou; Dickyboi - Lagos to Accra; Femmy - Lagos to Porto Novo; "Woody" - Accra to Singapore
Sand Timer x 7: Dufus & Abavana/Capt Joseph Annan/Victor Walla/Ohene Agyekum/James Jeffrey/Peace Akpobor & John Mensah/Tony Kalaby & Addo Gilbert
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