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false dmitri
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The feds grabbed the Canadian founders of the non-US based Neteller company, the largest online money transferer in the world. Looks like this publicly traded company is going to be in trouble (hope none of you Brits own their stock!). Again, another attempt by the US gov't to stop Americans from sports gambling online, this time using the PATRIOT ACT.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:12 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Er, how does that work if the founders are Canadian and the company is not US based??

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

one was in LA, the othr the Virgin Islands. The Gov't has sworn to uphold its gambling laws, even if the "criminals" are not in the US.

The same thing happened to Bet On Sports. The british citizens were pasing thru the US and got arrested in the airport during a layover. They're only facing 25 years in prison, though.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So potentially you could arrive in the US, not knowing that you're guilty of a crime there for doing something that's legal in your own country, and be arrested?? That's a bit scary!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

that's exactly what happened. You violate the US laws, no matter where you are or what nationality you are....come in the US and face the rest of your life in our prisons. Even if what you did is legal in your own country and that your company is publicly traded on your national stock market.

Your Brits enjoy being able to place a wager on Arsenal or whatever without having to go through someoby who works for Tony Soprano in the Chicago mafia outfit. In my little town, I personally know 3 bookies (bookmakers), and they have ties to the mob..

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dear me, I do enjoy an occasional flutter on the footie or the nags... looks like I won't be going back there again! Shocked

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

the site allowed US people to gamble. So the BOS people got nailed for racketeering an not paying taxes on income that wasn't allowed by US law. Go figure. Offshore gambling will soon be a thing of the past for Americans

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

When I was growing up in Boston in the 1960s, before "The Game" (i.e. the state lottery in Boston) became legal, it was quite normal and legal to buy a ticket for the Irish National Lottery.

What's the difference?

Can a Bostonian be arrested when he comes home if he visits Las Vegas and plays at a casino? Or, better, can a Las Vegas casino owner be arrested in Boston if he lets a Bostonian play in his casino?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So is Las Vegas the only place in the US where gambling is allowed??

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

its not illegal to PLACE a bet, its illegal to BOOK them (that's why the mafia loves it so much, its very profitable).. They're not coming after individual bettors, but people who take their bets, even if its legal in their home country.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

gambling is allowed in various forms the US. the only state where bookmaking (sports) is completely legal is Nevada.

It all depends on location, if you are in an area of a state that allows casinos, yes, you can gamble there. However, if you call a buddy in Vegas to place a bet for you, that's a felony.

the Irish national lottery is illegal, btw.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:33 am Reply with quoteBack to top

false dimitri wrote:
its not illegal to PLACE a bet....


I disagree. It is illegal to place internet wagers as a player in the USA. However, the feds rarely prosecute the players.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@false dmitri,

I tried to open an account with them and they were terrible - locked me out of my account without an explanation and refused to respond to my e-mails. Their customer service has gone downhill over the past five months. I'm not in the US and they called me at 22h30 GMT and woke me up. I took this as the final warning of their incompetence and have never bothered unlocking my account.

I'm very glad I never deposited money with them, but I know some people will be very frightened about the money they have with these creeps. Evil or Very Mad

EDIT: Do you have a link to this storuy online?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

false dmitri wrote:
The british citizens were pasing thru the US and got arrested in the airport during a layover. . .

They can do the same thing to you with a civil lawsuit. This is what happened to the dude in Aruba who's one of the prime suspects in the Holloway case. He showed up at JFK airport on his way to some TV interview in NY, and the Holloway family attornies had him served with a summons to appear as defendant in a civil wrongful death lawsuit.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't see how this instance has anything to do with the Patriot act. explain?

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