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rcelis
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I received an email saying they are looking for an accountant to handle their monies in this COuntry "BIG WARNING FLAG THERE" How ever thewy say that they will get the people who owe them Money to send it to me. HAH HAH!!. Whats up with these people?Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Can you post the whole email, please?

In any case, even from the little that you wrote, it sounds like a fake job mule scam, are they asking you to accept payments, keep 10% and send 90% back to them, if so, that's exactly what it is.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It's a fake check scam. They pretend to offer you a job "processing payments", you cash their fake checks, send them their share, and you're left holding the bag when the bank finds it was forged. You owe the money back. You can end up being criminally charged, as well.

It doesn't matter who the person is who offers you this job. They're never legit. Even if it were a real company, it would be money laundering charges for the both of you.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sincerely yours,
Nancy Goldsmith
Turnell & Gidon Group
Chelsea Harbour Design Centre
Lots Road
London
SW10 0XE
Tel +44 (0)20 8971 1711
www.tandggroup.com
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@ Rcelis, we need to see the actual email that you received to confirm things, because scmmers often give the details of real companies in their scams, so you would expect an email to be from an email address matching their website domain name, or did theu mail you from Yahoo, Hotmail etc?

The phone number you gave is a UK landline from BT:

Quote:

+44 20 8971 1711
Number billable as: geographic number
Country or destination: United Kingdom
City or exchange location: London
Original network provider*: BT


Which leads me to believe it might be a real company that the scammer is abusing. Scammer never use traceable phone numbers. Please post the email and include the full email headers so we can see which country it was sent from.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello Roy
Thanks for responding to my Job posting on Craigslist,I am the
Personel manager/Recruitter,Appointed by a special Ad-Hoc committee
that was
put together to rescue Turnell & Gidon Group international sales.
T & G group is renowned for English traditional printed chintzes all
produced from Achive materials.We are the only company that still edits
Hand-block designs,a process that requires seven years of
apprentiship,involving often
hundreds of different blocks.However it produces a look that cannot be
satisfactorily copied by any other printing method.Also here in the
Uk,we
have covered alot of grounds both in the fabrication of good and modern
fabrics for everyday urban fashion.Most exports has been to the more
European neighbors,But overtime there has been an increase in demand in
the
united states.

The increase in demand did also brought about the problem with
payments,The website does not suit the American doller transactions.A
temporary
accounts officer seems to be the best solution to this problem,this
solution
will only last till our website and other credit options/facilities are
put
into place .Some of our customers there has offered to pay us with
united
states money orders and checks.Here in the UK its a problem to cash
such
checks and money orders.To cash them we lost 19% of the payment to make
the
transaction/coversions values.
In view of the above,we will be happy to have you as our
representative
in the united states who will be handling the payment aspect,by
recieving
such payments on our behalf from ourAmerican buyers .

Your job discription;
Simple,You will be responsible for making the transfers to us here in
the UK
or sometimes as the case maybe,to our international make-shift
agents.This
would require you to take the checks/money orders to your bank,have it
cashed and tranfer the funds asap through Western Union International
Money
Transfer or
Moneygram.

For your labor;
10% of the total payment is your wage/commission.The rest is transfered
the
company's accontants department.
Its important you know that this job does not stop you from
doing
your normal job,it's just for you to take deliveries of payments and
cash
them and transfer the money to us here in the U.K via Moneygram Or
Western
UnionInternational Money Transfer.T & G will be counting on your
deligence
and honesty inother to succeed with this new payment set up.
so please asure me that all will be well in this business arrangement
Again,what the job entails is for you to;
(A) Receive Payments on our Behalf from our American clients;such
payments
shall come in the form of Official Checks,Money Orders and Bank
drafts,all of which shall be issued in the USA.
(B) Cash such payments.
(C) Transfer the money via Moneygram Or Western Union International
Money Transfer.

You are to receive payments which will be sent to you by fedex
or
usps courier service or a the regular mail.It gets to you,you get it
cashed
and you deduct your commission and send the balance to the accountant
or our
agents via western union money transfer or money gram money transfer,
all
transfer fees should be deducted from the money.
I will need you to get to me with details of your address,thats if you
are
ready to work with us.
Its also important for the records.

Once the details are confirmed it will be forwarded to our clients in
the
states.This is a completely legal thing in the states and here.We will
need
to count on your honesty and you have to follow my instructions.
Please get back to me immediately as we have a lot of payments to
recieve and as soon as you send me your home address details i will
instruct that such clients to make such payments to you. I hope i am
able
to make every thing clear enough if there is any other thing that is
not
clear to you, Do not hesitate to email me and i will be glad to explain
to you. Hope to hear from you today on this regard.

This arrangement is only being made pending the time we have a branch
office in the states.
Attached is an Agreement form,to be filled and return after your
decision/acceptance.

Sincerely yours,
Nancy Goldsmith
Turnell & Gidon Group
Chelsea Harbour Design Centre
Lots Road
London
SW10 0XE
Tel +44 (0)20 8971 1711
www.tandggroup.com

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes, it's a fake cheque scam where you are the mule, you accept cheques from their clients/customers, cash them and keep 10% as your commission and send the 90% back to the scammers, all the cheques you receive are not from clients/customers, they are fake cheqques sent by the scammers, and as Mrs Bean pointed out above, you will be the one arrested for passing fake cheques and money laundering.

It appears they are using a legit company name to give legitimacy to their scams. The legit company will know nothing about this.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

"Nancy Goldsmith" <[email protected]> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Waiting to hear from you
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 04:06:15 -0800


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Record expires on 05-Jun-2012
Record created on 05-Jun-2003
Database last updated on 10-Oct-2006

Real company, but I'll bet my lunch money the headers trace back to somewhere else. The wording was pretty ladlike in the email as well.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey Tahnks as I have already burned one group from Canada who sent me a fake Money Order From some one in Tennessee. I have a friend who is with the Bureau and he helped me with that one. It seems that you can get in a lot of trouble for writing false checks and using some ones account. Of course that individual claims to not know a thing. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@ Rcelis, you might want to edit your previous post to xxxxx out your email address Wink

Not that the scammer mails you from a free Hotmail.com address, if they were from the legit company, they would mail from [email protected]

The scammer has 2 adverts on Craiglist, here they are:

http://miami.craigslist.org/acc/245891386.html

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/acc/245887179.html

Go to each advert and at the top of each page you can flag them as "prohibited", if a few do it Craiglist will delete their ads

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

.JOB OPENING I NA GOOD COMPANY.

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Reply to: [email protected]
Date: 2006-12-08, 9:54AM CST


Turnell & Gidon group.A rapidly expanding, international company, we are currently looking for talented, multi-lingual individuals to join our team. We’re seeking an honest individual that welcome challenges and work well both as individuals and as part of team.
To compliment our team of e-commerce professionals, we need an Account Payable Clerk. Daily requirements in our team include communication, collaboration, and meeting numerous deadlines through outstanding ingenuity, as well as a desire to learn and grow with the company.

Duties and Responsibilities :
-Recording of purchase orders and invoices in multiple currencies.
-Following currency exchange rates

Experience & Knowledge :
-3-5 years of experience in the field of accounting.
-Experience in addressing high volume multi-currency payables.
-Multi-currency preferred.
-Multi-company enterprises preferred.
-Group Insurance preferred.
-Expert bookkeeping and payroll.
-Good accounting practices and principles.
-Essential computer skills.
-Excellent Knowledge of English.

Education & Certification :
-High school required.
-College an asset.
Skills :
-Discriminating Eye for Detail.
-Excellent Organization.

Also visit our site:www.tandggroup.com
Send your resumes to:Turnell & Gidon group.A rapidly expanding, international company, we are currently looking for talented, multi-lingual individuals to join our team. We’re seeking an honest individual that welcome challenges and work well both as individuals and as part of team.
To compliment our team of e-commerce professionals, we need an Account Payable Clerk. Daily requirements in our team include communication, collaboration, and meeting numerous deadlines through outstanding ingenuity, as well as a desire to learn and grow with the company.

Duties and Responsibilities :
-Recording of purchase orders and invoices in multiple currencies.
-Following currency exchange rates

Experience & Knowledge :
-3-5 years of experience in the field of accounting.
-Experience in addressing high volume multi-currency payables.
-Multi-currency preferred.
-Multi-company enterprises preferred.
-Group Insurance preferred.
-Expert bookkeeping and payroll.
-Good accounting practices and principles.
-Essential computer skills.
-Excellent Knowledge of English.

Education & Certification :
-High school required.
-College an asset.
Skills :
-Discriminating Eye for Detail.
-Excellent Organization.

Also visit our site:www.tandggroup.com
Send your resumes to:[email protected]


Compensation: negotiable

Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.

Please, no phone calls about this job!

Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.




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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

rcelis,
Now that we've confirmed that this is indeed a scam under the name of the fake company, we can't get any more information from the scammers' emails. If you want to post them up, feel free to add the complete email, including headers, to the Surplus Letters Forum.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

JOB OPENING IN A GOOD COMPANY!!!

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Reply to: [email protected]
Date: 2006-12-12, 5:03PM CST


Turnell & Gidon group.A rapidly expanding, international company, we are currently looking for talented, multi-lingual individuals to join our team. We’re seeking an honest individual that welcome challenges and work well both as individuals and as part of team.
To compliment our team of e-commerce professionals, we need an Account Payable Clerk. Daily requirements in our team include communication, collaboration, and meeting numerous deadlines through outstanding ingenuity, as well as a desire to learn and grow with the company.

Duties and Responsibilities :
-Recording of purchase orders and invoices in multiple currencies.
-Following currency exchange rates

Experience & Knowledge :
-3-5 years of experience in the field of accounting.
-Experience in addressing high volume multi-currency payables.
-Multi-currency preferred.
-Multi-company enterprises preferred.
-Group Insurance preferred.
-Expert bookkeeping and payroll.
-Good accounting practices and principles.
-Essential computer skills.
-Excellent Knowledge of English.

Education & Certification :
-High school required.
-College an asset.
Skills :
-Discriminating Eye for Detail.
-Excellent Organization.

Also visit our site:www.tandggroup.com



Compensation: Negotiable

Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.

Please, no phone calls about this job!

Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.




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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

if you google the phrase "You are to receive payments which will be sent to you by fedex and usps", you'll find all sorts of emails which are remarkably similar to the one you received (a few posts up by now). this is an easy trick which can be quite useful as the scammers tend to recycle their letters, just filling in different content (in this case related to the company they are impersonating*) to fit the particular scam.

*if a company can be impersonated, since it's not a person and all....

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Craiglist have now taken down their adverts Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

If you're interested, this is an email I received from the same address. This person is definitely trying to do some kind of check scam. Of course, I just responded to her with elaborate conditions of treatment she will never meet b/c, of course, I know she's trying to scam me...

Hi Christine,
Thanks for responding to my e-mail,I just fully recovered from an automobile accident that's why I need your service of a hour session per day for 7 days period.I want the best hands to put me fully back in shape.
The swedish and the deep tissue will be spead around the days.
I will be around on vacation from the 13-25 of August.

I will spend sometime with my step mom and another week at the hotel not too far from her place and that's where you will be meeting me only if you agree to an outcall,I can meet up at your studio too if its best for you.
Hopefully,I can have the payment settled beforehand,this arrangement will make it more comfortable for me health-status wise.payment will only be personal check.

Kindly send me a confirmation of your fees and your e-trade account number or alternatively your contact address details so that I can instruct my personnel secretary to proceed with payment.
I await your response.
Regards,
Nancy

p.s I am a baseball coach and I want to get back on the pitch as soon as its possible.

Christine Wymer <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Nancy,
Depending on when, yes, I might be able to do that.
Chris

--- Nancy Goldsmith wrote:

>
> Hello,
> I will like to know if you can offer a whole week
> deep tissue/sports and swedish massage.(a session
> per day-7 days)
> Kindly send me an e-mail on this regard.
> Thanks
> Nancy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@rcelis - Another dead giveaway will be the use of a "free" e-mail account. What legit officer of a company or government would use yahoo or hotmail?

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