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Toussaint Tatsugi
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top

So we now get to confront the buring internet issue- where does the crime happen? If I have an email account that is based in the UK how am I breaking any American laws? If I use that same account to annoy a Nigerian (you know just as an example...) from the UK (where my emails live...) but I'm an American- do they think they can bust me for something that never had any physical presence in this country?

Thanks for wasting another batch of tax dollars you farkin' ass clowns.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@TT

That's always been what I see as the biggest obstacle in internet crime fighting. How do you enforce a law? I mean yeah, If you live in Ohio and you visit a website in Ohio hosted by the same company that gives you a connection, it's likely a local crime. But even two Americans might transfer through 12 other servers anywhere on earth before coming together again. Yeah I insulted you, but I did so through a Canadian proxy. Does that get me off the hook?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:15 am Reply with quoteBack to top

All I can say is goodluck trying to police it. Its just like trying to police music sharing. Millions of people do it everyday on the internet. Its practically impossible to trace, and isnt exactly the most serious of crimes. Im sure police would rather be tracking down murderers and rapists, that some 12yr old kid who just called some other 12yr old a noob on an internet forum. Do you really think police have the time to trace people and arrest them, then tie up the legal system even further.

Do me a favor.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No Problem, I'll just change my name to: Randy Knobhead by deed poll! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It is a certainty then... I'm not merely going to hell, I will be going to hell sitting on a wooden bench with "Group W."

One of the mugu barristers is gonna get me arrested for sending him a Doodygram. With circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one to be used in evidence against me....

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Go ask Alice
When she's ten feet tall


I remember Alice, well I did live next door to her for 24 years.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

totally ridiculous

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

sounds awful similar in stupidity to this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_electronic_game_ban
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:09 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am from South Africa. I law like that would be completely rediculous over here. I have had 6 breakins since I have been living in my new place. I have been here 3 years. Not once did the police come out to check it out. Even when fingerprints are clearly visible.

They have much bigger things taking up their time.

Two weeks ago someone tried to break in while I was in the house. Luckily I have armed response but they also took 15 minutes to arrive. I did press the panic buton though and that was enough of a deterrant to keep me safe.

I would much rather live in any other country than here (Okay not Iraq)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:05 am Reply with quoteBack to top

What are the gun laws for private citizens there? just curious


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Buford you dont want to start on our Gun Laws , lets just say that criminals with guns rule this country ......
should i mask this aswell ..... should i puit my real name under it so i dont get arrested for annoyin gmy government ....


neh i dont have to worry much , because there is a little thing here called

'Free Speech'

Sorry to hear about your breakins Pooklet ... where do you stay by the way ? Areawise not exactly where you stay

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Buford Pusser wrote:
What are the gun laws for private citizens there? just curious


google search 'US gun laws' and you may notice it has the most gun laws on the books.
i would rather be judged by twelve than carried by six.
who defines when something IS annoying?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Another law that looks like it's designed to protect, yet is very easily used to repress. That is so unworkable, it's beyond laughable. I'd like to see our government try that!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

PsycheDelia_Smith wrote:
I'd like to see our government try that!


Is that the government of Transylvania? Everyone knows they're just a bunch of bloodsuckers...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:31 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@PsycheDelia_Smith

Looks like you have just enough time to make popcorn.

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Rob NoOrgan
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I believe this law has been misinterpreted.

http://news.com.com/5208-1028-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=12943&messageID=101496&start=-1

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Im guessing this law is designed to prevent unwarranted email harassments. It would be difficult for the mugus or some govt. attorney to argue this considering that the mugus are voluntarily participating in all these idiotic exercises.

Personally Id love to see charges brought up by a mugu, let it go to trial in front of a jury, who would piss themselves with laughter when they see the evidence, and eventually vote for acquittal Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@noeyes,

welcome to Eater.

This topic has been discussed in length recently, but the last post was a month ago and the discussion had run its course. We should wait a while before starting up this discussion again.

Even if you have "noeyes," please read the guidelines (especially about necroing old threads), the stickies etc.
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