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 Should I have sold him the laptops?

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Poll :: Did I just lose a legitimate sale?

Yes
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
No
100%
 100%  [ 13 ]
Total Votes : 13


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harrynemisis
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Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 3


PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This is the actual transcript of a converstaion I have just had with a very nice scammer.

My company uses an international trade web site - it has its own messaging system, like MSN

mjohn009: hello
mjohn009: good day

Harrynemisis: Hello

mjohn009: i want to buy laptops from you to my store in nigeria,MOQ?

Harrynemisis: It's 1 unit

mjohn009: i need 3
mjohn009: how much for 3 pcs?

Harrynemisis: Of which model number?

mjohn009: what model do you have?

Harrynemisis: I stock the complete range of intelliNOTE laptops - www.computer-lab.co.uk for details

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: Alpha-A notebook

Harrynemisis: One minute

mjohn009: A-990
mjohn009: ok

Harrynemisis: Best price today is 599GBP per unit = total of 1797GBP

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: plus shipping to nigeria through FEDEX

Harrynemisis: But I could do for 1700GBP
Harrynemisis: Unsure of shipping

mjohn009: i will pay for the shipment
mjohn009: ok?

Andrew Brown: Yes that's fine

mjohn009: give me your full name and address so as to make payment

Harrynemisis: How will you be making the payment?

mjohn009: i will be sending cash into your acount or sending Money Order to you from my BidPay account

Harrynemisis: Could you send it via PayPal?

mjohn009: i have closed down my paypal account
mjohn009: so let us do this transaction quick
mjohn009: send me your name and address so as to make payment

Harrynemisis: Why do you need my name and address to make the payment?

mjohn009: the name and address where money will be sent to
mjohn009: the money will be delivere to the address provided and the given to the name provided
mjohn009: are u there?

Harrynemisis: yes but im on the phone

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: are u through?

Harrynemisis: not yet

mjohn009: ok

Harrynemisis: Finshed - was a salesman

mjohn009: ok

Harrynemisis: I was rude to him

mjohn009: why rude to him?

Harrynemisis:He deserved it - would not take no for an answer - so I shouted obscene things at him and he went away Smile

mjohn009: so let us close this transaction now by sending me your information to make payment

Harrynemisis: Whats your name and address?

mjohn009: you mean shipping address?

Harrynemisis: Yes - it has to be the same as the address registered to the payment made - we have to be carefull of fraud

mjohn009: BidPay will give you my information after making payment because I have account with them

Harrynemisis: I have never used bidpay

mjohn009: dont worry,BidPay is very secure
mjohn009: just let me have your information

Harrynemisis: Wait I'm just looking at bidpay's website - won't be long

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: are u there?

Harrynemisis:Yes Im here

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: can u give me your information now
mjohn009: because i have go soon

Harrynemisis: Bidpay looks a bit suspicious - hmm

mjohn009: why?
mjohn009: did you went to the website?

Harrynemisis: Yes I went to the website - I saw it's formaly western union

mjohn009: I have been using it for the few years to pay all my sellers
mjohn009: it is western union auction payment
mjohn009: BidPay® is a fast, reliable way to pay or get paid for your online auctions.

When an auction is over, winners visit bidpay.com and simply enter the auction details and payment information. We then send payment to the seller either by mailing a Western Union® branded money order or, if the seller is located in the U.S., by sending a payment directly to the seller’s U.S. checking account. It’s that simple!

mjohn009: are u there?

Harrynemisis:With the greatest respect to you and your personal integrity - this seems suspicious because. You have not won an auction, I don't have a US Checking account and most of the results I got from typing Bidpay into google were with regard to fraudulent transactions using Bidpay - particularly in the area of Nigeria

mjohn009: you are misnuderstanding me

Harrynemisis: I don't think I misunderstand

mjohn009: Stores in Nigeria dont involve in fraudulent
mjohn009: it is individuals

Harrynemisis: Ok what is you business name, address and registration number

mjohn009: they are have lincence whereby all goods entering into the country must be inspeted
mjohn009: my business name is FRIENDS AND FOLKS
mjohn009: address is located in Ibadan
mjohn009: andthe registration number is 31208834DC
mjohn009: ok?
mjohn009: are u still there?

Harrynemisis:One minute I'll just have to check that number

mjohn009: that Information cannot be available due to security resons
mjohn009: it is registered with the federal government here in nigeria

Harrynemisis: One minute

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: are u through?
mjohn009: pls are u still there?

Harrynemisis: I'm still here

mjohn009: so what do you think now about the payment
mjohn009: let us make this transaction
mjohn009: I still have more laptops to buy from you

Harrynemisis: I can't find anything relating to your business

mjohn009: i told you
mjohn009: it is not available on net due to security from the Governamnet
mjohn009: can I give you the BidPay customercare e-mail for verification?
mjohn009: ok?

Harrynemisis: You're telling me you have a top secret cyber cafe?

mjohn009: i own a cybercafe
mjohn009: where I need the laptops
mjohn009: Government Authorize everybody that is registered under them not to put their information on net due to frauds from outside world
mjohn009: ok?

Harrynemisis: So unless you have authorization from your government you are legally obliged to publish your business details on the internet?

mjohn009: no
mjohn009: it is the rules here
mjohn009: ok?
mjohn009: are you selling the items or not?

Harrynemisis: I am very confused Micheal

mjohn009: dont worry
mjohn009: your money will be delivered to you
mjohn009: ok?
mjohn009: can I give u the BidPay customercare e-mail?

Harrynemisis:OK

mjohn009: that is my representative in all orders I handle
mjohn009: [email protected]
mjohn009: ok?

Harrynemisis: One minute

mjohn009: so mail them the information i will need to send money to you
mjohn009: plus the total amount and ask them anything you want to ask
mjohn009: ok?

Harrynemisis: OK

mjohn009: send them all the information
mjohn009: they will arrange for your money to be sent to you
mjohn009: ok?
mjohn009: are u through?

Harrynemisis:: almost

mjohn009: k
mjohn009: tell me when you are through
mjohn009: ok?

Harrynemisis: I'm just wiating for a reply

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: are you there?

Harrynemisis: Yes, I'm just waiting for a reply to the email I sent

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: did u mail them all the information?
mjohn009: hello

Harrynemisis: Hello

mjohn009: ok

Harrynemisis: OK
Harrynemisis: Im OK

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: i am waiting for their reply

Harrynemisis: OK
Harrynemisis:O
Harrynemisis: K
Harrynemisis: Why are you waiting for their reply?
Harrynemisis: I sent the message
Harrynemisis:ok

mjohn009: to knwop what they will tell you about me

Harrynemisis:They will tell you Im devestatingly handsome
Harrynemisis: and taller than you think when you get up close
Harrynemisis: ok

mjohn009: funny

Harrynemisis: But true

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: did they mail you?

Harrynemisis: not yet

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: but you are willing to sell the laptops for me
mjohn009: ?

Harrynemisis: I just got a reply

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: let me know their feedback

Harrynemisis:There feedback was very good - but there were some discrepencies in the email header which make it suspicious

mjohn009: what is that again?
mjohn009: i think u are not selling them for me

Harrynemisis: why?
Harrynemisis:I want to sell them - I need the money

mjohn009: i think you are wasting my time

Harrynemisis: why?

mjohn009: send me your information and let me arrange for your money

Harrynemisis:send me your information first

mjohn009: BidPay will provide it for you when paying
mjohn009: ok?

Harrynemisis: Not really - You should provide me with information I can confirm before we enter into any business transaction

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: shipping address?

Harrynemisis: Yes - it must match the address used to make the payment

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: MICHAEL JOHN
mjohn009: address: FRIENDS AND FOLKS,NO 93,IWO-ROAD,OPP CONOIL PETROL STATION
mjohn009: city : IBADAN
mjohn009: state: OYO
mjohn009: country : NIGERIA
mjohn009: ok?

Harrynemisis: Do you have a Zip/Post code?

mjohn009: zipcode : 23402
mjohn009: ok?

Harrynemisis: One minute

mjohn009: One minute for what?

Harrynemisis: Checking zip code

mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: can you mail me then
mjohn009: i have to go now
mjohn009: ok?

Harrynemisis: OK Whats you email address

mjohn009: [email protected]
mjohn009: bye
mjohn009: ok?

Harrynemisis: Ok I'll check all info and let you know if we can do business - I hope so

mjohn009: mail me all the information to send your money
mjohn009: name,address,city,state,zipcode,country,item name,amount,shipping
mjohn009: ok
mjohn009: Bye

Harrynemisis: ok
Harrynemisis: was nice talking to you

mjohn009: you are welcome
mjohn009: i used almost an hour chatting with you
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chickstix
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Joined: 28 Nov 2004
Posts: 193
Location: The real world...


PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
mjohn009: i used almost an hour chatting with you


My favourite bit...!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:29 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I hate to seem racist, but I read as far as "Nigeria" before voting no.

Reading that Bidpay is being used makes me more suspicious. The combination of Nigeria, Bidpay (=WU), and laptops (a popular scam item) make me nearly certain this is a scam.

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