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Chester
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

My wife has been looking for other work recently and came across www.netehomeworkers.co.uk

The site just screams SCAM! at me...any thoughts.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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There is a "One Time Non-Refundable Fee" of 25.00. The cost will cover the training materials sent to you. Once you process your very first order you will have made back this fee "GUARANTEED"!


The registrant lives in the USA and the site was set up on Sept 28th ...

Quote:
Server Used: [ whois.nic.uk ]

http://www.netehomeworkers.co.uk/ = [ 72.1.201.152 ]

Domain Name:
netehomeworkers.co.uk
Registrant:
IAN JOHNSON
Registrant's Address:
98 ROWAN AVENUE
WASHINGTON
A1 1AA
GB
Registrant's Agent:
Fibranet Services Ltd [Tag = FIBRANET]
Relevant Dates:
Registered on: 28-Sep-2005
Renewal Date: 28-Sep-2007
Registration Status:
Registration request being processed
Name servers listed in order:
ns1.ukdnsservers.co.uk 72.1.201.150
ns2.ukdnsservers.co.uk 207.61.90.196
WHOIS database last updated at 11: 20: 01 26-Oct-2005


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Server Used: [ whois.arin.net ]

72.1.201.152 = [ 152.201.1.72.koallo.com ]

OrgName: Telecom Ottawa Limited
OrgID: TOL-10
Address: 1970 Merivale Road
City: Ottawa
StateProv: ON
PostalCode: K2G-1G4
Country: CA
NetRange: 72.1.192.0 - 72.1.223.255
CIDR: 72.1.192.0/19
NetName: TOL-IPBLOCK-1
NetHandle: NET-72-1-192-0-1
Parent: NET-72-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.TEL-OTT.COM
NameServer: NS2.TEL-OTT.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 2004-09-10
Updated: 2004-09-10
TechHandle: NETWO455-ARIN
TechName: Network Operations
TechPhone: 1-613-225-4631
TechEmail: [email protected]

OrgTechHandle: NETWO455-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network Operations
OrgTechPhone: 1-613-225-4631
OrgTechEmail: [email protected]

CustName: KOALLO Inc
Address: 119 Wilbert Cox Drive
City: Ottawa
StateProv: ON
PostalCode: K0A-1L0
Country: CA
RegDate: 2005-09-28
Updated: 2005-09-28
NetRange: 72.1.201.128 - 72.1.201.255
CIDR: 72.1.201.128/25
NetName: TOL-72-1-201-128-255
NetHandle: NET-72-1-201-128-1
Parent: NET-72-1-192-0-1
NetType: Reassigned
Comment:
RegDate: 2005-09-28
Updated: 2005-09-28
TechHandle: NETWO455-ARIN
TechName: Network Operations
TechPhone: 1-613-225-4631
TechEmail: [email protected]

OrgTechHandle: NETWO455-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network Operations
OrgTechPhone: 1-613-225-4631
OrgTechEmail: [email protected]


The incorrectly quoted phone number is on the T-Mobile(UK) Network

A business that employs without contract, pays without deduction of tax and insurance (totally illegal!) and pays via Paypal .....

Hmmmmmm IT'S A SCAM

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Daneel_Oliwav
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:47 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yep, scam, and this is apparently how it works:
Clicky

There are hundreds of postings exactly like that website all over the internet. Just choose a line from the text and Google it.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Good spot Daneel...I just googled his name and the website address which didn't throw up much, I never thought about the text.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

This has the same modality as the envelope stuffing scam. It is 100% pure pyramid.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

They are certainly brazen, the advert for the "job" was in a respected local newspaper...and wouldn't have come cheap.

To be honest BC, I'm not convinced it's as slick or organised as a pyramid scheme. It look more like a "take the money and run" scam. Mad

I am desperate to bait this bastard but he has my wife's details unfortunately.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sure they advertise with a local paper- using a stolen credit card, or the bill me at the end of the month modality.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Chester wrote:

To be honest BC, I'm not convinced it's as slick or organised as a pyramid scheme. It look more like a "take the money and run" scam. Mad


It is a one level pyramid scheme.

A pyramid scheme has two key parts:
1) you pay to join
2) the only way to make money is by recruiting.

Both fit, so they're walking like e-GYP-tians Smile

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"THANKS FOR MAKING FUN OF ME.." "I DIDNT GET ANY F***ING MONEY AND STOP MAKING FUN OF ME.. OK" Jul13t [email protected] (rebaited from another character)
" I THINK WE HAVE TO PUT END TO THIS GAME,AND REASON WHY I SAID THIS IS BECAUSE I CAN NOT CONTINUE WITH GOING TO WESTERN UNION" Dr Bens0n
"DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKE TO GET A MAGA IS NOT EASY MAN, IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE CAUSE ME FOR TWO WEEKS NOW I CAN PAY MY HOUSE RENT THEY ARE ABOUT TO SEND MY FAMILY OUT OF THE HOUSE WE LIVE" Dr @d3kun13 Bens0n
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Email just received

Re: http://www.netehomeworkers.co.uk/ = [ 72.1.201.152 ]]

Hi, I've already taken this site down - we've had no complaints of fraud
actually being committed by this site but it did contain content of a
standard scam so we have closed it under our AUP
Thanks for bringing it to our attention
Stuart

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Blimey, that was quick...good to see a provider prepared to act appropriately.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I had a 14 minute turnround on a fake bank yesterday! Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

this is getting verrrrrrry fish..

look out for this [email protected] www.nethomeworkers.co.uk Ian Johnson ..

i believe this to be a very serious issue...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi - I just joined your forum specifically so I could reply to this post.

I did some digging around to convince myself not to pay any money to nethomeworkers - I'm glad I didn't.

some poor soul who has. has posted the username and password to the "training" area on another forum. as BobCat says, the money you earn is based on how many people you recruit to join similar scams that you set up. The training tells you where to find free advertising space. The "data entry" refers to the filling in of advertising forms.

What I don't understand though is that he is also advertising this "service" on ebay.

How is it that a) ebay allow such advertising and
b) He would jeopordise positive feedback on his ebay account?

Surely those who have succumbed to his scheme would post negative feedback?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

They're feeling a bit foolish maybe?

They should leave negative feedback, and report him to eBay for being the little scammer he is... pyramid schemes are illegal.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

hypermused wrote:
this is getting verrrrrrry fish..

look out for this [email protected] www.nethomeworkers.co.uk Ian Johnson ..

i believe this to be a very serious issue...


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Freewebs abuse sent me:-
Quote:
This site does not appear to be a pyramid scheme. If you feel the site
is promoting an illegal activity, please notify your local authority.
The Site Manager has also been notified of the potential violation.


So I replied

Quote:
Sir.
Thank you for your email.
I have, as you suggested, reported this site to The Financial Services Authority via [email protected] and to the inland revenue and customs via their website.
I am sure that they will be very interested in your complicity in this illegal website.
Regards

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Again I am not surprised that you get such an answer from the hoster.
There isn't anything obviously illegal going on at the site. They sell training materials for handling applications. That they don't collect taxes or something like that is not illegal as they don't pay wages. You are in effect self emplyed when you get going.

That it is a scam is 100% obvious to me, so I am just happy if the site goes away, but as I said I am not surprised that you don't get an OK right away from the hoster.

Maybe you are somebody trying to take down the site of competitor? How should the hoster know?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

ftfoi wrote:
they don't pay wages.


From Site
Quote:
You will be paid 20 - 25 for each application you process


They are taking a cut, they then pay you, you are an employee, they are liable for employers contibutions.

Quote:
Compare us to other staffing firms, they take a percentage of your earnings for the duration of your time with them.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Dirteh Sanchez.

You must quote everything:
Quote:
Compare us to other staffing firms, they take a percentage of your earnings for the duration of your time with them. That's a lot of money! We require a low one time non-refundable fee of 25.00 and no other fees are incurred upon you.


It says you will be paid 20-25 for each application, but that might just as well come directly from the people/companies that send in the applications.

For example here in Norway there are many transportation companies that don't pay the drivers any wages. All the drivers are self emplyed and bill the transport companies. That way the company don't have to think about wages, taxes, pensions and social benefits.

But I totally agree that it is totally shady and the people behind it should suffer a long and painful death.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dirteh Sanchez - you get paid directly because the idea is that set up similar scams yourself.

Anyone who wants the username and password to their training area please PM me.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Pyramid Schemes in themselves are not illegal UNLESS

Quote:
Illegal Activity
The law makes it a criminal offence to persuade
someone to make a payment to a scheme by
promising benefits from getting other people to join a
trading scheme. (Fair Trading Act 1973 section 120(3)).
This does not make recruitment rewards unlawful. It
does make it unlawful to persuade someone that the
main motive for joining is to profit from recruiting
others or to take money from someone on the basis
of such a motive.


and

Quote:
It is illegal for a promoter or participant in a trading
scheme to persuade anyone to make a payment
by promising benefits from getting other people
to join a trading scheme.


And

Quote:
Before you participate in the scheme the promoter, or
recruiting participant, must give you a written contract
which sets out all your rights and obligations as a
participant in the scheme. The contract only binds you
when you have signed it. The promoter must not accept
money from you before you have signed a contract
.
The contract must include:
The name and address of the promoter of the scheme
A description of the products covered by the scheme
A description of your role in the scheme
Your rights to cancel or terminate the contract,
related rights on returning goods and the information
you need to exercise these rights
Any payments you have to make in the first year
Your right to have at least 60 days warning of any
change in future payments
Your rights if the promoter seeks to recover commission.


Your Once, Twice, Three Times a Criminal, and I will have you.......

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Update..

Oh Dear, sites appear Deaded .. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

We all know that that site as a big scam. My point is that it did not anywhere in that page say that you needed to recruit people into the same scam to earn the money.

It said you needed to process applications. For all we knew it could be applications for work, credit cards etc. Anyway, looks like the site is down now and I am not sorry for that.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It also stated that there was an upfront payment and no contract.

ergo, it was breaking the law even on that page.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I can still get on, ...... Question
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