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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, this was the first one I replied to, and will probably be one of the first to finish up. We'll see. Anyway, its not spectacular and I'm only posting it here so I can benefit from the constructive criticism of my mentor and the eater community. To conserve space, I am going to post without headers, but I can make that information available upon request.

Color codes:
Emails from me are olive
Emails from the scammer
Emails from outsiders
Emails to outsiders

Initial Email:
Quote:

ALBERT'S CHAMBERS
16,IKORODU ROAD IKEJA
LAGOS- NIGERIA.
TELL: 234-8027765198

ATTENTION PLEASE,

I am BarristerAlbert Martins, a solicitor at law. I am the personal attorney to Mr.Alan Stan,an australian who used to work with shell development company. in Nigeria. Here in after shall be referred to as my client. On the 21st of April 2000, my client, his wife And their three children were involved in a car accident along sagbama express road. All occupants of the vehicle unfortunately lost there lives. Since then I have made several enquiries to your embassy to locate any of my clients extended relatives this has also proved successful.

After these several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to trace any of his extended relation,but all the effort to locate any member of his family was to no avail,hence I contacted you. I have contacted you to assist ,and have you stand as his extetended relative as to enable us in repatriating the money and property left behind by my client before they get confiscated or declared unserviceable by the bank where this huge deposited.

Particularly, the finance company where the deceased had an account valued at about USD$18,000,000 (eighteen million dollars) has issued me a notice to provide the next of kin or have the account confisicated within the next ten official working days.Since I have been unsuccesfull in locating the relatives for over 2 years now I seek your consent to present you as the next of kin of the deceased,so that the proceeds of this account valued at USD$18,000,000(eighteen million dollars) can be paid to you and then you and me can share the money.60% for me as initiator,35% for you while 5% will be set aside for reinbursement to both local and international expenses incure in the process of this transaction,I have all necessary legal documents that can be used to back up any claim we may make. All I require is your honest co-peration to enable us see this deal through.

I guarantee that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of the law. Please get in touch with me by my email and send me your telephone and fax numbers to enable us discuss further about this transaction.
Best regards,
BarristerAlbert Martins.
NB: Incase you want to reply by mail, do send it to :[email protected]
________________________________________________
This mail was sent by UebiMiau 2.5



Standard reply, with a small twist. I've gotten a little better since, but I still wanted to get a few lines of off script text from him.
Quote:

Albert:

I may be able to lend some support to your endeavors. What is a
barrister? Sounds like something that concludes a staircase.

-Dr. Andre

_________________
We regulate any stealing of his property
And we dang good too
But you can't be any geek off the street,
Gotta be handy with the steel if you know what i mean, earn your keep!
Regulators!!! mount up!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hmm, just a little unscripted... will try better next time.

Quote:

DEAR SIR,

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THIS TRANSACTION.
ACCORDING TO YOUR QUESTION, BARRISTER MEANS A LAWYER OR SOLICITOR.

SO THAT IS ALL ABOUT YOUR QUESTION, SO PLEASE YOU CAN SEND US YOUR INFORMATION REQUIRED: LIKE YOUR PHONE AND FAX NUMBER,
YOU FULL NAME AND HOUSE ADDRESS. SO THAT WE CAN REGISTER YOU AS THE NEXT OF KIN OF THE DECEASED AND ALSO THE BENEFICAIRY OF THE FUND.

YOU CAN ALSO CALL ME ON THIS NUMBER FOR MORE INFORMATION:234-8027765198.

LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.

REGARD
BARRISTER ALBERT MARTINS


Any Blues Brothers fans? Well, its pretty obvious that Mr. Martins hasn't seen the movie either...

Quote:

Here is my address:
Dr. Andre Romell Young
1060 W. Addison Street
Chicago, Illinois 60613

My dog actually broke my fax machine last week... The little runt was
playing with his football and got to horsing around... smashed it. I
was very annoyed.

My mobile number is the following 206-666-4031.

Where does one go to school to become a bannister? It sounds like a
very intersting career path -- were you schooled in Europe? I have a
close personal friend who attended Yale Law school -- I wonder if you
two have met?

-Dr. Andre Young



Its July 6 at this point. We're still on the script, I think, and he's ignoring my questions. Maybe I should have been more assertive. I'll bust his chops later on.

Quote:

DEAR SIR,

I RECVIEVED YOUR INFORMATION AND EVERYTHING THERE WAS QUIET UNDERSTOOD.

I HAVE FORWARDED YOUR INFORMATION TO THE BANK FOR FURTHER PROCESS,

SO PLEASE IMMEDIATELY YOU HEAR FROM THE BANK, DON'T HESITATE TO CONTACT ME.

ONECE AGAIN CONTACT ME INMMDIATELY YOU HEAR FROM THE BANK.

LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.

REGARDS

BARRISTER ALBERT MARTINS

_________________
We regulate any stealing of his property
And we dang good too
But you can't be any geek off the street,
Gotta be handy with the steel if you know what i mean, earn your keep!
Regulators!!! mount up!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

July 8: The tosser isn't taking the Bannister bait -- you'd think he'd be "offended" by screwing up his professional title. Smile Oh well... (Bank emails are below -- this is a two threaded email conversation, so bear with me on the non-linearity in this thread)

Quote:

BANNISTER ALBERT:

THE BANK CONTACTED ME THIS AFTERNOON AND HAS REQUESTED MANY DOCUMENTS -- INCLUDE THE COUNSINS DEATH CERTIFICATE, WHICH i DO NOT HAVE. WHAT CAN i SEND FOR THIS REQUEST? DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING i COULD SEND IN??

THEY SENT ANOTHER FORM TOO, BUT IT WAS "CORRUPTED BY NATURE" AND WOULD NOT OPEN IN MY EMAIL. i ASKED THEM TO SEND ANOTHER COPY. DO YOU THINK THEY WILL DO THAT? i HOPE i DID NOT MAKE THE BANK ANGRY BY MY BROKEN EMAIL PROBLEM.

-DR DRE

He's asking for money, and I have nothing nice from him yet. Hmm... time to turn on the attitude.

Quote:

Dear Friend,

How are you today? thank you very much for your email response,I have visited the the federal ministry of health where i will obtain the death certificate and i will swear an afidavite of claim with your name as the truth beneficiary from FEDERAL HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE as soon as i will get this documents i will send a copy of the ducument to you and summit the original copy UNION BANK PLC. to enable them release our fund.

so my dear friend but to obtain the the DEATH CERTIFICATE will cost us$1,300 (one thousand three hundred dollars) while to get the AFIDAVITE CERTIFICATE will cost us $1,750 ( one thousand seven hundred an fifty)

So the total of the money is three thousand fifty dollars.

My dear Friend, I have spent a lot of money to bring this transaction to this stage, so the money with me now is $1700 ( one thousand seven hundred) so please try and and send the remaining balance so that we can move this business forward. i'm living now to the court to get one of the document( AFIDAFITE OF CLAIM. so you can send the remaining balance with this name to enable me get the death certificate please act fast .

NAME: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
ADDRESS: 100 IJESHA ROAD.
TEXT QUESTION: WHAT
TEXT ANSWER GOOD.
Send it thru western union money transfer.

Waiting for urgent response.

Barrister Albert Martins


Read too much of the shuttle thread, and tried to make him bite harder. It didn't work. He's still not buying into this very much. Sad

Quote:

Is that ALL? I had expected legal expenses to be MUCH higher for this
investment, and I am very relieved to hear that they are so low. You
must understand that, for me, $1700 is nothing at all. Obviously, you
have not figured out who I am yet. In truth, I am willing to pay the
sum of the entire transaction -- you save your money, bannister
Albert.

I will contact the Western Union office this afternoon and make the
arrangements for the transfer.

Now that I have tipped my hand in this message and partially indicated
who I am, I would like you NOT to distribute this address to anyone
else. If people in the US were to find this address, my inbox would
be full for sure, and you would never hear from me again because there
would be too many emails in my inbox. That is for sure.

Dr. Dre


Dang it, he didn't go for it. He sent me a POS of a document. If I find somewhere to post it, I will (with FAKE POS stamped all over it). Oh wait, here's something from the "bank".

Quote:


ATTN: DR ANDRE ROMELL YOUNG,


WE HAVE RESEND THE FORM AS YOU REQUESTED, YOU ARE ADVICE TO FILL THE FORM AND SEND IT BACK TO THIS BANK . WE ARE ALSO STILL WAITING FOR THE TWO DOCUMENTS WE REQUEST FROM YOU TO ENABLE US RELEASE YOUR FUND TO YOU WITHOUT ANY DELAY.

BEST REGARD

CHIKE MORDI.
FOREIGN REMITTANCE DIRECTOR.


I'll attach the crappy form, if I ever find webspace for it. Its pretty vanilla and in all my baits so far, its been pretty typical of mugu form-work. I replied with this:

Quote:

This is concerning to me, but the attachment still says "Corrupted by
nature" This is very very bad because I desperately want to conclude
our business soon - perhaps you could print the form on your end and
overnight it to me. I would, of course, pay for your efforts services
via reply mail. As I am sure you are a large corporation, this should
not be an unusual request for you, and I am sure you process these
requests in large quantities for your customers. I thank you for the
effort.

Please send the documents to:

Dr. Andre Romel Young
1060 W Addison St
Chicago, IL 60613

Please send me the Fedex, DHL or UPS tracking number when you have
sent the documents, so I can be aware of their arrival. There are
many theives in my neighborhood, how would love to steal my documents.

I anxiously await your reply.
-Dr. Dre Young


No dice. $400?! What are you smoking? I think I should have hit him harder. Oh well, I guess the Chicago Cubs will have to suffer without the fake forms this time around.

Quote:

ATTN: SIR,

WE ARE SERIOUSLY WAITING FOR YOUR INTERNATIONAL PASSPORT TOGETHER WITH THE TWO DOCUMENTS WE NEED TO REGISTER YOU AS THE BENEFICAIRY OF THE FUND.

REGARDING THE FORM, YOU HAVE TO SEND $400 TO ENABLE US SEND THE FORM TO YOU VIA DHL.

YOU CAN USE THE CASHIER NAME IFEOMA ODUME TO SEND THE MONEY VIA WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER.

NAME: IFEOMA ODUME
LAGOS NIGERIA.

SEND THE CONTROL NUMBER..

THANKS

DR CHIKE MORDI


Hmm, let's try this.
Quote:

As I said before, Chide, I am unable to open your original form, and
your unwillingness to work with me to see that the original form is
available to me leaves me no choice but to discontinue doing business
with you. I will be contacting my friend in order to setup future
transactions through an alternate venue.

I see no point in continuing with your organization if I am unable to
complete even your FIRST form, which I have not received succesfully.
I am beginning to suspect that you are sending me damaged files as to
prevent me from completing this deal as you will NOT be able to
produce any documentation without the biographical data that you
indicated I should include on the damaged file you sent me. You see?
Without this first form, that you indicated was very vital and
mandatory, you cannot produce future documentation.

Thank you and good day.
-Dr Dre


Meanwhile, back on the ranch...

Quote:

Dear Friend,

You can find bellow the Affidavit of claim certificate which i obtain from the court this morning.

so please my good friend, try and send the remaining money so that we can obtain the remaining certificate so that we can send the both to the bank.

Have the bank resend the form back to you?.

waiting to hear from you soon.

Barrister Abert.


Time to be a punk. It never occured to me to try this from the start, but I'm a tech writer so these things stand out to me. I wasn't about to grammatically analyze his form -- no sense to helping him develop more convincing stuff, so I just went with the name typo. This tactic highly annoyed him.

Quote:

Oh no! Albert, my name is spelled incorrectly on your form!! My
middle name is with a single L, not two! Can you fix it??

-Dr. Dre


Its July 9 now and no reply. I wonder if he's run off. Better toss out a little more bait.

Quote:

Today I go to bank and withdraw the appropriate amount of funds, and
have them on my desk beside me here. However, I have decided to hold
off on transmitting the funds until I am sure that your documentation
is correct. I do not want to risk having names different and missing
details in the forms that I will be paying to have produced. Please
revise your document first. I cannot believe that even after all this
time, you are still misspell my name! This is very unprofessional,
Bannister Martins. I am very disappointed in you.

Dr. Dre
[/quote]

_________________
We regulate any stealing of his property
And we dang good too
But you can't be any geek off the street,
Gotta be handy with the steel if you know what i mean, earn your keep!
Regulators!!! mount up!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:05 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ok, so he's totally ignored my typo remarks. He's not getting away with that. It's July 10 now.

Quote:

Dear Friend,

I'm still waiting to hear from you, what is the next step?

Barrister Albert Martins


Grrrrrr.... Hmm, maybe I can get him to typo "affadavid" (sic)
Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

Quote:

I am growing impatient, bannister martins. Please correct the
affadavid form immediately for spelling. I do NOT think this is a
minor request as my name is spelled incorrectly!

How am I supposed to collect the funds if my name is NOT a match for your form?

-Dr Dre


This apparently really ticked him off, so he decided to get smart with me, and quote my original email to me (he was correct, but he's a stupid mugu, so he's wrong by virtue of his societal position... stupid punk)

Quote:

Email subject line: if there is any mistake ,it is from you

Dear friend,

Bellow is the information you send to me, so if there is any mistake ,it is from you. How can you be telling me that you are disappointed why the mistake is from you. that is your information you sent to me bellow. so i used it for your certificate. please try and send the money so that we can go further with this transaction, but that will be no problem, I will go back to the Federal High Court of Justice to change the mistake which you have cost by sending me the information you sent to me bellow, so my dear Friend please send the money now so i can go further and finish up with the document.

Find the bellow mail which you sent to me with your information and know where the mistake from.
You know that all this is money, so try and send the money immediately so that i will commence my action immediately to the court.




Here is my address:
Dr. Andre Romell Young
1060 W. Addison Street
Chicago, Illinois 60613

My dog actually broke my fax machine last week... The little runt was
playing with his football and got to horsing around... smashed it. I
was very annoyed.

My mobile number is the following 206-666-4031.

Where does one go to school to become a bannister? It sounds like a
very intersting career path -- were you schooled in Europe? I have a
close personal friend who attended Yale Law school -- I wonder if you
two have met?

-Dr. Andre Young


Did he just get rude with my character? heheh, I don't THINK so!
It's July 9 now.
Quote:

Listen, Albert, if you want to move forward with this deal, then you
will correct the form and send it to me. I do not accept that you
blame me for the problem -- I think you have modified the original
email to suit your own needs. This has made me VERY angry.

I will not accept you talking down to me either. If you do not correct
this form, then the deal is off and I will not send the funds. It is
that simple, my friend. I will not risk my money on an endeavor where
I have nothing to gain -- your form would put me in that position.

Dr. Andre *****ROMEL***** Young (notice 1 L, pisser!!)


Well, I guess the mugu thought it was over too, so he sent the "bank" to see if I was still game. Attached for was the same crappy image as before -- I toyed with the idea of having the Bannister fill it out, but figured he'd just cop out with another "fee."

Quote:

SIR,

PLEASE CONFIRM THE ATTACHED FORM, FILL IT AND SEND IT BACK TO THIS BANK.

OR YOU CAN COME DOWN HERE AND FILL IT OR YOU CAN SEND YOUR ATTORNEY BARRISTER ALBERT MARTINS TO VISIT OUR OFFICE TO FILL THE FORM ON YOUR BEHALF.

ACCORDING TO OUR POLICY CONCERNING OUR BANK ALL OUR CUSTOMER ARE THE TITLED TO PAY FOR THE COURIER SERVICE.

YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH RULS AND REGULATIONS OF THE BANK.

THANKS.

CHIKE MORDI.


Hmmm... how to approach this for maximum damage. How about this:
Quote:

Thank you for submitting this form, but unfortunately I am still unable to
open the file (an error about CORRUPTED BY NATURE). I have also had trouble opening Mr. Bannister Martin's
attachments as well, but not from anyone else on the Internet -- it is
very strange. Do think there is a relationship??

I am not sure if Mr. Bannister Martin will be coming to you to fill
out the forms, as he and I have had personal difference in the last
few days and may be discontinuing our business as a result.

I thank you for submitting the form, but barring a miraculous
reconciliation with Mr. Bannister Martin, you will not hear from me
again.

-Dr. Dre


Two days later, I got this along with the corrected form. Its magic! The moron mugu figured out that I was still game via the "bank" and fixed up the forms... Evil or Very Mad
Quote:

Dear Friend,

Bellow is the Attached document which i have change from the federal high court of justice this morning. So my good friend i am expecting the money to enable me complete the document of the DEATH CERTIFICATE.

Send through the information i gave to you beteween now and tomorrow.

Barrister Albert Martins


He's obviously holding up his end of the "bargain" and fixing my "mistakes", so I decided to give him a 2 day vacation. Fast forward 48 hours and I receive this: (July 12)

Quote:

Dear Friend,

Bellow is the Attached document which i have change from the federal high court of justice this morning. So my good friend i am expecting the money to enable me complete the document of the DEATH CERTIFICATE.

Send through the information i gave to you beteween now and tomorrow.

Barrister Albert Martins

_________________
We regulate any stealing of his property
And we dang good too
But you can't be any geek off the street,
Gotta be handy with the steel if you know what i mean, earn your keep!
Regulators!!! mount up!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hmm, what to do what to do... Maybe I'll continue to be a primadonna...

Quote:

You have greatly insulted me 2 days ago, and I sent you a message
asking for an apology, which you have not supplied. When you accused
me of purposely mistyping my name, I was very angry, and I still am.

I will not proceed until I feel better about our relationship.

-Dr. Dre


Pucker up, mugu and kiss some Tritium buttocks...
Quote:

My Dear Friend,

I am very sorry for what happened beteween us the past few days, i just want you to accept my apology.

I hope you have seen the correction i made in your certificate? please let us move further because i want this fund to be transfer to your account before this week ends. so that we both can look for a good business in your country and invest together.

So let us join hand together and proceed with the deal.

I want you to send the remaining amount so that we can obtain the DEATH CERTIFICATE of the deceased person.

once again i apologize for the mistake.

waiting for your urgent reply.

Barrister Albert Martins


I'm getting a little bored with this fellow, so let's try for a simple trophy. He really is a punk. Anyway, I think he missed a spot on the Tritium buttocks, and needs to try harder.

Quote:

I will proceed under one condition: That you put that apology into
writing and sign it -- the personal touch of a signature would make
the apology genuine. As we are to be close foreign business partners,
we should leave no ill-will between us, yes?

While you type up this letter and apply your hand to the signature, I
will visit the Western Union this afternoon, on the assumption that
you will produce the letter. I trust that you will not let me down.

Dr. Dre


I could hear his stupid mugu mind clicking from 8000 miles away: "Did Tritium say 'Money'? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I dey get se money! Oooooooooooooooh!" Moron, I'm only getting wound up.

Quote:

Dear Friend,

Thank you very much for your concern, i will not let you down because i trust you as a partner and i believe that the money will safe in your account.

So let me give you the information once again.

NAME: NDUBUISI CHRIS

ADDRESS: 100 IJESHA RAOD LAGOS NIGERIA.

TEXT QUESTION: WHAT

TEXT ANSWER GOOD.

Please i'm really waiting for you to send it so that we can proceed futher.please send the control number along.

Waiting to hear from you soon.

Barrister Albert Martins


Get off me, kid, I said I wanted a signed apology letter, not a repeat of the WU details. Time for a Tritium NUKE. But first, let's set him up to fail a demand of mine, so maybe I can hold out for something better...

Quote:

Do not forget the letter I have requested -- I believe it is vital to
our developing professional and personal relationship. We must clear
the air, and it will help me move beyond the insult by knowing you are
genuine by afixing your hand's signature to the apology letter.

I can leave for the Western Union in 2 hours, if I have your letter.
Do not disappoint me, Albert.

-Dr. Dre


Hmmm... well, 2 hours has come and long gone. Time to blast this guy into next Tuesday (which might be when I respond to him again, assuming he sends me an apology letter). Let's throw in a little money and see if the mixture is right.

Quote:

Albert, you have failed me again. I have asked you for something simple, and you have failed to accomplish my request. If you do not send me the apology, and include in the apology an excuse for why you have not submitted the apology, then our business has concluded.

Per my side of the bargain, I have gone to the bank today and withdrawn all the previously mentioned funds and created a very special Western Union transfer. I will NOT submit the numbers to you until the apology letter has been received, and I have been assured my Western Union that you will NOT be able to withdraw the funds without the transfer account number. If I have not received my apology letter and excuse note by tomorrow afternoon, then I will return to Western Union and reclaim my monies.

-Dr. Dre


I know this has been rather blasť from the perspective of the veterans here, but its my first shot. Please let me know what you think, and provide any constructive criticisms.

Thanks.
-tritium

PS: I things develop, I'll append to this thread...

_________________
We regulate any stealing of his property
And we dang good too
But you can't be any geek off the street,
Gotta be handy with the steel if you know what i mean, earn your keep!
Regulators!!! mount up!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

'Albert Martins' has been baited before so he probably knows the score. He will not produce any photos, special signs, etc. without much feedng and care.

I am also new to baiting and attempted to play with names at the outset and got a negative response from one lad (he was a 'Dr.' so my opening letter was addressed to Dr. Dolittle). Things haven't been cordial with that bait.

I have noticed that some lads are quite prima donnas (like Martins) and are high maintenance. You have a choice: drop him or feed his ego.

Also 'Martins' has included other characters to provide a good cop - bad cop scenario for you to play against. It may be time to add some other characters on your side.

I believe Dr. Dre is a family man. Perhaps his wife could discover this transaction and enter into the story? How's Dr. Dre's relationship with the police? Could the FBI be watching the good Dr.'s activities?

I have the Homeland Security constantly blocking my passport in email.

Or you could send him photos of yourself, articles about your activities, etc. I have noticed that when I send my photo or some descriptive articles and then request a photo, I typically get one (may not be real but ...). Then I can dig deeper for trophies later.

Has Martins attempted to call and leave a message? Tell him you called and couldn't get through. Perhaps he could call you at a predetermined time? Developing faith in you beyond an email address is necessary for a trophy.

As I said, I'm fairly new at this but it sounds to me you started off as adversary to him and with no attaboys for good work. Thank him for doing little things right.

For example, I have yet to fill out a form. I always compliment my lads' writing Rolling Eyes and ask them to draft any forms and letters for me. If there's a problem, I remind them they have all the information to complete the form/letter. I have a three stage response system (lots of questions at the beginning) that typically breaks scripts and at the end give them all the information they wish (address, phone #s, bank account info, etc). When a form or letter is required, they have all necessary information to complete it.

Finally, I've learned that offering money at the beginning raises the lad's antennae. Lads need to earn the WU transfer. Security forms, etc. are the basis of days/weeks of havoc. I had one who wanted a WU transfer so a security form was required. The forms was completed but I wanted a higher resolution. The lad then wanted a MoneyGram transfer. OK by me. They required the same form! Another low resolution form was returned that I cannot read. So the lad tries to go the bank transfer route. OK. But the bank's SWIFT code given is incorrect. The lad then sends another bank's information to me but that account is frozen because of possible money laundrying problems. This lad has recently written me out of the script by having another character paying all the fees. I'm not sure where this one goes but you know they'll be some problem with the money transfer.

I didn't taunt the lad with the money. I did as the lad asked but WU/MG/bad banks fouled up the transfer.

Anyway, my 2 cents. Good luck with Martins. Nice story.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Good ideas, thank you.

How do you know that Albert has been baited before? Were there context clues within his emails or something else?

Thanks.
-tritium

_________________
We regulate any stealing of his property
And we dang good too
But you can't be any geek off the street,
Gotta be handy with the steel if you know what i mean, earn your keep!
Regulators!!! mount up!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Most of the lads are quite aware of trophy photos and some of them even know about the trophy room here on eater.

It's not that easy to get photos out of them. I know this from a long list of failures from my part. Put yourself in their shoes, a skeptical mugu (thats you) may not fall for the scam at end anyway, so why waste time and money on him.

The best bet for getting a photo is to make him think that you believe him and want to send him the money but there is an outside force that has to be convinced. The lads, in quest of the money, tend to be more cooperative with you in such a situation.

I tend to use my "wife" as the skeptical party in these situations and I have had some sucess with that.

Take a look at my ongoing YIM bait of Windy Tom on this forum.

Good Luck

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Are you sure you are of a sound mind.maybe you are not well in your brain hence you are deviating from the topic of claiming your money.i give you two days to send the money or i will put a case against you with FBI on your neck.- Barr.Mrs Mariam Yameogo

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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How do you know that Albert has been baited before? Were there context clues within his emails or something else?


1. The name sounded familiar. I think I reeived his initial letter a few weeks ago and responded to it. He didn't follow through so I dropped him.

2. He quickly jumped off the script by answering the question about barrister. My limited experience has been the second email always is scripted with inexperienced lads. I have done two asems and the second emails typically are not pertinent to my initial letter.

3. His quick response to barrister but no response to the dog breaks fax machine line. I usually state that fax machines are unnecessary in my line of work as emails can contain scanned images. Thus I have no fax.

4. You have not given any description of yourself and he hasn't asked for it. That seems odd to me. You know he's an attorney but he doesn't know who you are. Use this to your advantage.

I suspect real victims are typically senior citizens or retired people. You could change Dr. Dre into a retired scientist who has a need for money for some great scientific experiments. You need the money therefore you are more desperate and will send the few dollars for the biger reward. You can't be too serious if you don't need the money, right?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

A+ !!!

Great job so far! I'm so proud! Crying or Very sad sniff...

I tend to agree that he's been burned before.

This is one thing I love to do with the lads.

Since you are at the WU stage of the game, get his email box cancelled after sending him a question like:

"What was the test question again, I deleted the email you sent, I am ready to go to Western Union today?!?"

Preferably when the lad is alseep.

Then they scurry around and open a new email address and contact you, I usually go into a tirade about lack of security, his emails been hacked, how do I know he's not an imposter! This can go on for days/weeks.

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